It'll be interesting to see how much bandwidth you use when you
actually release, since people (myself included!) will be desperate to
get their hands on it!
On 20 Aug 2009, at 03:15, Paul Peloski paulpelo...@gmail.com wrote:
Over at BMS all our files (sources and build) are stored on a
We use svn for data files for devs, a svnsync read only mirror of
sourcemod_dir for testers and git for source code. We currently
evaluate using a steam content server for testing build distribution
On 8/20/09, Adam Buckland adamjbuckl...@gmail.com wrote:
It'll be interesting to see how much
Our tester repo is 6 GByte, 3.1 G when loading (checkouting). SC is
1G. I have no idea how much traffic is created. I think about
100G/Month.
On 8/20/09, Adam Buckland adamjbuckl...@gmail.com wrote:
It'll be interesting to see how much bandwidth you use when you
actually release, since people
So you've got Steamworks?
David Kraeutmann wrote:
We use svn for data files for devs, a svnsync read only mirror of
sourcemod_dir for testers and git for source code. We currently
evaluate using a steam content server for testing build distribution
On 8/20/09, Adam Buckland
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@ Richard
I learn by reading through the code
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Sent: August-20-09 8:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of
data.
I didn't read all but there are companies
died overnight. No warning. I lost
tons of data.
I didn't read all but there are companies that can restore data from broken
harddrives, almost no matter how broken the harddrive is.
It costs around 125euros or more but in some cases it's worth everything.
just so you know.
clankill3r
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I always used to have the problem of being a coder, and not being able to get
people
Thanks!
Gabriel Smith
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Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:17:13 AM
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By the way! Would any artist look
Ive recently started working started using n 8gb memory stick for all my
code. Its working fine for me and I have plenty of space left though I dont
know if these can still crash and cause problems?
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To be honest, as far as i know using a memory stick to keep your data is not
the best of ideas. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but the chances of a
memory stick failing and crashing is bigger than that of a hard-drive, as
after a certain number of writes and reads from it. Not completely sure
If you're talking about USB thumbdrive, don't rely on them for backups.
I've had 4 die on me in the last 5 years. This may be due to carrying
the thumbdrive around with me everywhere and/or leaving it in a hot car
during the day. If you leave it sitting beside your desk all the time
and
WORD!
On 8/20/2009 9:31 AM, ZuM wrote:
To be honest, as far as i know using a memory stick to keep your data is not
the best of ideas. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but the chances of a
memory stick failing and crashing is bigger than that of a hard-drive, as
after a certain number of
, 2009 10:31:08 AM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] My harddrive died overnight. No warning. I lost tons of
data.
To be honest, as far as i know using a memory stick to keep your data is not
the best of ideas. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but the chances of a
memory stick failing and crashing is bigger
Yes.
On 8/20/09, Tom Edwards t_edwa...@btinternet.com wrote:
So you've got Steamworks?
David Kraeutmann wrote:
We use svn for data files for devs, a svnsync read only mirror of
sourcemod_dir for testers and git for source code. We currently
evaluate using a steam content server for testing
Hey, just one more thing to add Nick, how did the drive die? Did the
platters physically crash, IE: did you hear clicking?
Because if only the head controller went you can get another hard drive
of the same model and switch them out. I've been lucky a few times over
the years using this
Since I'm the only one on my mod, I just have an ancient (P3-era
Celeron, GeForce 2, 384 megs of RAM) PC working as a Samba server.
Every time I do major work, I copy it over. So when my main computer's
hard drive started acting up, I didn't lose any mod code. I've got an
identical hard drive in
Maybe you got a problem on your filesystem. Try formating it completely and
see if you still have these problems, and/or check for bad blocks, these can
cause quite a few problems specially if theres a lot of them :S.
2009/8/20 Kyle Jansen makerofthega...@gmail.com
Since I'm the only one on my
ouch, u should consider setting up an SVN repo.
Nick wrote:
Please, everyone backup your mod data to different hard drives. It was
a western digital btw, only 7 months old.
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yeah its painfull to loose alot of data, thankfully i have always been
a rigid backup nazi and never lost any very important data.
having a backup server for your home or a offsite backup tool such as:
http://www.jungledisk.com/
can be very useful.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:44 PM,
There is also an issue with the steam .MSI installer where it will uninstall
everything - i had my mod, and its code all stored in sourcemods, and lost it
last weekend.
Owner Nigredo Studios http://www.nigredostudios.com
--- On Wed, 19/8/09, Nick xnicho...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Nick
I've got offsite SVN and a windows home server.
Windows Home Server is defo worth looking into just for day to day
stuff. I could throw any of my computers out of the window right now
and still be able to browse its hard drive via WHS.
garry
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 7:21 AM,
2 x 500GB in RAID 1 config + eSata 500GB external with Always Sync
works for me :)
- Jed
2009/8/19 Garry Newman garrynew...@gmail.com:
I've got offsite SVN and a windows home server.
Windows Home Server is defo worth looking into just for day to day
stuff. I could throw any of my computers
H I really should get my code under svn before the next sdk update
is released.
2009/8/19 Jed j...@wunderboy.org:
2 x 500GB in RAID 1 config + eSata 500GB external with Always Sync
works for me :)
- Jed
2009/8/19 Garry Newman garrynew...@gmail.com:
I've got offsite SVN and a windows
Over the course of development, 3 coders with 2 different svn servers and a
git server, and I personally have 5 releases backed up onto a 16gig usb
stick
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Harry Jeffery
harry101jeff...@googlemail.com wrote:
H I really should get my code under svn before the
Harry Jeffery wrote:
H I really should get my code under svn before the next sdk update
is released.
2009/8/19 Jed j...@wunderboy.org:
2 x 500GB in RAID 1 config + eSata 500GB external with Always Sync
works for me :)
- Jed
2009/8/19 Garry Newman garrynew...@gmail.com:
We use git, so every coder has a backup.
+ additional encrypted ftp backup
On 8/19/09, Logan Baldock p3wner...@gmail.com wrote:
Harry Jeffery wrote:
H I really should get my code under svn before the next sdk update
is released.
2009/8/19 Jed j...@wunderboy.org:
2 x 500GB in RAID 1
I never understood having multiple coders unless it's a large scale
project. From experience usually only one is enough per mod.
2009/8/19 David Kraeutmann da...@davidkra.net:
We use git, so every coder has a backup.
+ additional encrypted ftp backup
On 8/19/09, Logan Baldock
So you can get stuff done quicker?
2009/8/19 Harry Jeffery harry101jeff...@googlemail.com
I never understood having multiple coders unless it's a large scale
project. From experience usually only one is enough per mod.
2009/8/19 David Kraeutmann da...@davidkra.net:
We use git, so every
DropBox if your having trouble getting something setup.
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Olly oli...@gmail.com wrote:
So you can get stuff done quicker?
2009/8/19 Harry Jeffery harry101jeff...@googlemail.com
I never understood having multiple coders unless it's a large scale
project.
Guess you've never heard of peer review. :)
2009/8/19 Harry Jeffery harry101jeff...@googlemail.com:
I never understood having multiple coders unless it's a large scale
project. From experience usually only one is enough per mod.
2009/8/19 David Kraeutmann da...@davidkra.net:
We use git, so
I'm the lead dev at Empires, FYI
On 8/19/09, Harry Jeffery harry101jeff...@googlemail.com wrote:
I never understood having multiple coders unless it's a large scale
project. From experience usually only one is enough per mod.
2009/8/19 David Kraeutmann da...@davidkra.net:
We use git, so
Thing is I've always been able to get all the work done in a timely
manner on my own.
Also there's not enough competent source engine programmers to go
around. A lot of well thought out and well made mods fail because they
just could not get a coder. I just see it as pointless for a mod to
have
It can make sense on anything larger than a small mod, after all the SDK
is a large codebase, and we don't all have the time to be expert in
every single area of it.
Although hlcoders does help with that :)
Also you have to start somewhere, and having a mentor that knows the
code better than
But surely if the coder actually likes the idea for the mod and wants
to work on it, they would?
On 19 Aug 2009, at 12:38, Harry Jeffery
harry101jeff...@googlemail.com wrote:
Thing is I've always been able to get all the work done in a timely
manner on my own.
Also there's not enough
For a full conversion 3-4 (maybe even 5) coders is acceptable but the
majority of mods really don't need as many coders as they try to get.
Generally I learn the bit of the SDK I'm about to work on, for a bit
before I start work instead of learning the whole thing.
By doing gameplay and logic
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Unfortunately, even the daily digests are frequently not of much help,
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DAMN PEOPLE! Flood much? Here, let me help. :-P
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Not sure how everyone elses works.
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On 19 Aug 2009, at 20:36,
The new Thunderbird is capable of compiling a conversation into a single
view of messages much like a forum reads.
But the guy was saying that the *digest* doesn't remove the quoted text. The
digest is a single e-mail generated weekly (maybe daily too? Not sure) with
all the mailing list posts in
I just sent him some very nasty e-mails as well as a unsubscribe
confirmation to his inbox. I have a feeling he won't read them though. :\
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