Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread Tim Faehnle
That's true.  No one MUST pay for the service.  Files are there to download for free.  What you're paying for when you sign up with one of those services is the immediate access and more bandwidth.  As far as reserving more bandwidth for their paying customers, that's their business choice. 

RE: [hlcoders] UTIL_FindEntityByClassname

2001-12-28 Thread Dynerman David M
No, this wont work. UTIL_FindEntityByClassname() searches the entity list for the classname starting with the entity you pass as the first parameter. Since each time through the loop, you're telling UTIL_FindEntityByClassname() to start from the beginning, it'll always find the same entity (and

RE: [hlcoders] Server/Client CVAR Problems

2001-12-28 Thread Dynerman David M
Yeah.   Whatever includes you need for the client (you mentioned conflicting with util.h) just #ifdef it to the client dll only.   David     -Original Message- From: Cortex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [hlcoders] Server/Client CVAR Problems

2001-12-28 Thread Cortex
You could try #ifdef CLIENT_DLL extern ... gEngFuncs" #endif   I don't know if it helps... - Original Message - From: Varlock To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:20 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Server/Client CVAR Problems     Can I brin

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
how many?   - Original Message - From: Christopher Long Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]  i think i created a monster this topic was meant to be just about some lame person selling stuff he didn

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
Actually, that's not completely true, GSI pays some of it's staff a considerable amount of money.     3D Action Planet pays $20 an article (from the staff) which is unconditional on the quality of the article.  They require you to be at least 16 to get money for your work but that is fine.   - Laka

Re: [hlcoders] What causes/caused the overflow error w/ATI cards

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
wow I can feel the love emanating... - Original Message - From: Tim Holt Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] What causes/caused the overflow error w/ATI cards  I, and 30713.616 people now hate you :^)Nathan Taylor wrote:> I'm sorry, the tru

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread omega
ive been away for most of the day so i didnt get back in on this stuff till now. but anyway, thats basically what im saying. the services now are almost exactly the same as they were before, 9x out of 10 theres one free mirror, and 2 personal servers on stuff that used to have 3 mirrors. so agai

[hlcoders] COND_HEAR_SOUND

2001-12-28 Thread Yacketta, Ronald
Just made a generic map, with 2 monster_scietist entities in it. Whe nI run it, I get the following error in console and a game crash What am I doing wrong? Did I fubar the code, or is this a mapping issue? COND_HEAR_SOUND with no sound mask! Graph not ready for findcover! __

[hlcoders] UTIL_FindEntityByClassname

2001-12-28 Thread Yacketta, Ronald
Folks, Would this work to count the number of monster_scientist entities in a map as well As how many are dead? while ( ( GEnt = (CBaseMonster*)UTIL_FindEntityByClassname(NULL, "monster_scientist") ) != NULL) { iHost++; if ( !GEnt->IsAlive() ) iHostDead++; } I am trying

Re: [hlcoders] Server/Client CVAR Problems

2001-12-28 Thread Varlock
    Can I bring this topic up again? I still haven't found a solution. Here's a summary:       I'd like to be able to access server side CVAR's on the client side. The normal way to access CVAR's on the server (such as mp_aquashotgun) would be like so   if( CVAR_GET_FLOAT( "mp_aquashotgun" )

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]

2001-12-28 Thread Christopher Long
i think i created a monster this topic was meant to be just about some lame person selling stuff he didn't own on ebay :) amazing how the conversations diverge :) anyone know how many replies i got from the original post? - Original Message - From: Nathan Taylor To: H

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread Andrew Foss
Has anyone ever tired to get the Counter-Strike patch on it's release? The same time 1.1.0.8 came out? I had wait times of 850 minutes. at 1000 logins allowed per server, two servers. and two 90mb files. that's not economics. that's scalping. FP lowered it's max connects to make room for the perso

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread _Phantom_
That's not really ethics, it's economics (sp?), those who can afford to buy the space and the speed will, those who cant wont. - Original Message - From: Dynerman David M To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:36 AM Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FP

RE: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread Dynerman David M
Right.   Both your points are right on.   However, thinking more in the realistic sense – I’ve seen wait times of 700 minutes for a download during peak times.   So the ethical question again arises; sure you can wait several hours to download that 2 megabyte mod, or you can dish out

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread _Phantom_
As a side note, I'm thinking of writing an artical on this whole file distrubtion stuff, does anyone have any objection to me using their names / quotes in it if I need to? (dont worry, I'm not planing on selling it, hehe ;))   Based on this and the convastion we had on IRC about it I think

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread John Newfield
It would be selling your work ONLY if they said that the only way to get the file would be to own a personal server.   I actually love fileplanet.. the queue system works great. Instead of a lot of people having slow downloads, a portion of them can have really fast downloads while the rest w

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
I agree   - Original Message - From: [DRP]Avatar-X Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 5:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]  No close! This is the first good discussion we've had here in a while! :-)Tim Holt wrote:> [THREAD CLOSED]>> By the p

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread Pat Magnan
It sounds as if you're referring to the way shareware used to be distributed. The license agreement for shareware in those days _specifically_ allowed such distribution. I don't believe that is in the license agreement for said patches, so you likely do not have the right to redistribute them

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread _Phantom_
But, the point is, they are not selling your work, they are selling a faster download (either speed, or not having to queue or both) the fact that it's something you want to download is inmaterial (sp?). Also, in the case of FLF it's a HL mod, which, by the nature of the EULA you are not all

[hlcoders] Hit Box bug??

2001-12-28 Thread Matthew Lewis
I discovered a new oddity while testing a new model. It seems that if you have to hit boxes assigned to group 0, only the first is recognized. I have the hit boxes defined as follows in the .qc file: $attachment 0 "gun" 0 0 0 $attachment 1 "gun" 0 33 0 $hbox 0 "base" -10 -10 0 10 10 48 $hbox 0"

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]

2001-12-28 Thread [DRP]Avatar-X
No close! This is the first good discussion we've had here in a while! :-) Tim Holt wrote: > [THREAD CLOSED] > > By the powers vested in me by my keyboard and nothing else, I hereby > declare this thread closed. It's slashdot fodder. > > Andrew Foss wrote: > > >>You've still got to click it for

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
but if u gave them permission to make mirrors of the game whenever there was a patch when it first came out couldn't they just mirror whenever?   - Original Message - From: Dynerman David M Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FP charging  

RE: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread Dynerman David M
Well of course I won’t complain – I want people to be able to download my mod.   Additionally, the law isn’t reactive like you’re implying. With large corporations such as GSI, I shouldn’t have to patrol FP looking for violations – they should not be breaking the law in the first place.

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread _Phantom_
If you have a problem with it, complain to them, as it yours you have the right to do that.   - Original Message - From: Dynerman David M To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 8:00 PM Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FP charging What do you mean by

RE: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread Dynerman David M
What do you mean by predetermined agreement.   If they snag a new version of FLF off some other mirror where I uploaded it to, that’s not getting my permission.   david   -Original Message- From: Nathan Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:20 PM

Re: [hlcoders] What causes/caused the overflow error w/ATI cards

2001-12-28 Thread Tim Holt
I, and 30713.616 people now hate you :^) Nathan Taylor wrote: > I'm sorry, the truth can't be helped... > > > > I had a Voodoo 5 until Xmas, on which I got my GeForce 3 Ti200, love at > first site. The Voodoo 5 doesn't work with Windows XP, its extremely > incompatible and it's just plai

Re: [hlcoders] What causes/caused the overflow error w/ATI cards

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
I'm sorry, the truth can't be helped...    I had a Voodoo 5 until Xmas, on which I got my GeForce 3 Ti200, love at first site.  The Voodoo 5 doesn't work with Windows XP, its extremely incompatible and it's just plain ugly.  I mean I haven't seen the Voodoo 3 but the Voodoo 5 is a monster of a car

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
o yea, I've been there! :)   - Original Message - From: Tim Holt Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]  lol :^)http://www.slashdot.orgNathan Taylor wrote:> what's a slashdot? - Original Message -

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
What makes you say that?  Isn't it possible that there was a predetermined agreement?   - Original Message - From: Dynerman David M Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlcoders] FP charging  Right.But as a mod author, what choice do you have for larg

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
$2k a month isn't really that expensive if you think about it.  My web host (ArmouryNetwork) pays $54k a month for 3 T3 lines and 2 OC-25's so $2k isn't really that substantial.   -Lakario   - Original Message - From: _Phantom_ Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]

2001-12-28 Thread Tim Holt
lol :^) http://www.slashdot.org Nathan Taylor wrote: > what's a slashdot? > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Tim Holt > > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:01 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED] > >

Re: [hlcoders] What causes/caused the overflow error w/ATI cards

2001-12-28 Thread Tim Holt
> I have a simple suggestion. Voodoo died, get a new card. Nope - bad response. You just told 35,000 people "sorry, but we don't want to help you". You've read Valve's hardware survey, haven't you? the one at http://valve.speakeasy.net/survey/ Read it - because it's not always what you

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
what's a slashdot?   - Original Message - From: Tim Holt Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]  [THREAD CLOSED]By the powers vested in me by my keyboard and nothing else, I herebydeclare this thread closed. 

RE: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread Dynerman David M
Right. But as a mod author, what choice do you have for large scale file distribution if you refuse to use FilePlanet? Telefragged's filesystem is all-but dead, cdrom.com is dead. Also, I have an inkling that FP never asked for our permission with FLF. They just saw a new version up, and went a

Re: [hlcoders] FP charging

2001-12-28 Thread _Phantom_
There is a difference however, if u want the files from FP u dont HAVE to pay, just wait. If you want the files on a CD you have to pay. Also I'm assuming that if you want a file on FP you have to submit it for it to be hosted, where as any monkey with a CD-RW drive can make up a CD and flog it, b

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b [THREAD CLOSED]

2001-12-28 Thread Tim Holt
[THREAD CLOSED] By the powers vested in me by my keyboard and nothing else, I hereby declare this thread closed. It's slashdot fodder. Andrew Foss wrote: >>You've still got to click it for them to get money, as it's VERY unlikey >>they have a display and pay system giving them cash. >> > Actu

Re: [hlcoders] What causes/caused the overflow error w/ATI cards

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
I have a simple suggestion.  Voodoo died, get a new card.   -Lakario   - Original Message - From: Tim Holt Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlcoders] What causes/caused the overflow error w/ATI cards  Enough N00b talk!OK so just what caused that o

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread Andrew Foss
> You've still got to click it for them to get money, as it's VERY unlikey > they have a display and pay system giving them cash. Actually, they do get pay per seen. it's called the impression system. if a user downloads the image the site gets about 0.0001 cents. multiply this by about 3,000,000

[hlcoders] What causes/caused the overflow error w/ATI cards

2001-12-28 Thread Tim Holt
Enough N00b talk! OK so just what caused that overflow that ATI ppl had w/the last HL patch? I'd like to get a better understanding over just what the issue is/was, plus what the fix was in a nut shell. I've been having that problem with a pre-released version of a certain mod who's memb

RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread Dynerman David M
But earlier, didn't we establish that selling a CD with mods on it for more than $0.89 (or the cost of a CD) was illegal? I'm not sure how much the bandwidth costs divided up are, but I have an inkling that $6.99 a month is substantially more bandwidth then I personally would use. Kinda like bu

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread Neale Roberts
Actually, I believe they do, although the amount per ad is pitifully small. There is still an advertising market out there, but it's only sites with massive hits that are making anything out of it. - Original Message - From: "_Phantom_" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fr

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread _Phantom_
You've still got to click it for them to get money, as it's VERY unlikey they have a display and pay system giving them cash. - Original Message - From: "Miguel Aleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a blood

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread Miguel Aleman
How much money do they (FilePlanet) make off of advertisement, they usually have a banner, a column, a pop under, and this flash thing which flies across the screen for 15 seconds not letting you close it. - Original Message - From: "omega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread Neale Roberts
Last time I checked, the general purpose for a company is to make money. The prices for a personal server are very reasonable, especially if you tend to download a lot. Phantom is right about the costs for providing all those files being astronomical, and advertising revenues are practically nil t

Re: [hlcoders] FP chargesd (was what a bloody n00b)

2001-12-28 Thread _Phantom_
replys in message : - Original Message - From: "omega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 3:37 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b > oh they dropped the price down? amazing. > last time i looked it was $30 a month US or something outrag

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread omega
oh they dropped the price down? amazing. last time i looked it was $30 a month US or something outrageous like that :P but still, gamespy is just greedy. they started out small, now they're huge and have swallowed a number of companies. you cant tell me that they cant afford the servers without c

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread _Phantom_
The point is, you aint paying for the patches or the mods, you are paying for the upkeep of the servers they are hosted on and the bandwidth the servers use, and in doing so yo get a 'thank you' with a personal server. For $6.95 USD (£5 UKP) per month or $59.99 USD (£43 UKP) a year that's not real

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread omega
the problem is, most of the time there are only the personal servers and *ONE* mirror for most of the files. im not paying $30 or so to download free things. add that ti $30 for ISP, $60 on average per game, plus hardware. somewhere, somebodies getting seriously ripped off. paying the cash for a

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread _Phantom_
I download at all kinds of times, mostly when the US are up as well, I've never had to wait longer than 40mins for a file off one of the main servers (last one was RtCW multiplayer demo) I dont have the money to pay atm so I dont and use the free system As for charging, tech the are charging u so

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread Nathan Taylor
Then again, bare in mind that in the case of Half-Life the EULA states we are not allowed to make money off the game unless we have specific permission from VALVe such as is with Counter-Strike, Oposing Force, and Blueshift, which Gearbox had to go through some special procedure to get permission. 

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread Tom
fileplanet seems fine to me (or it could just be I live in UK so all the americans aint online to be hogging the other mirrors ). Also, if your saying that ppl cant put stuff on a cd, such as huge patches and such which 56kers cant download, how the hell do u expect them to get the patches and st

Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread [DRP]Avatar-X
What sucks about fileplanet is that sure, they use the money to support the service, but ONLY PEOPLE WHO PAY CAN DOWNLOAD THE FILES. People who do not want to pay, or CAN'T pay, (underage, no credit card, no money, whatever) simply can't get the files. Oh, sure, you say they have mirrors in pla

RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b

2001-12-28 Thread Dynerman David M
Ken,   What you said is not entirely accurate.   Copyright protects copying, distribution, public display/performance and other rights (depending on the state you’re in)   If I’m a film studio, and I release a movie on VHS, it’s not legal for you to buy a legit copy, and then display