Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-24 Thread ics
A lot of us just use sourcemod to manage admins and we use direct ssh to server (or rpc and whatnot if you are on windows) and access the server console if we need to do so. I've ran gameservers nearly 10 years and haven't used rcon that much, ever. However, i do have rcon set and it's not

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-24 Thread William Pickard
Well then weasels, your hlstats webpanel will never show who's on the server because daemon can't rcon the server. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 9:12 PM, Weasels Lair wea...@weaselslair.com wrote: I run hlstats and sourcebans without rcon and do without the rcon integration. On Jan 23, 2015 4:20

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Jesse Oak
Make sure you also have sv_workshop_allow_other_maps 0 otherwise someone may be able to load a malicious map onto the server. On Jan 23, 2015 10:12 AM, Nomaan Ahmad n0man@gmail.com wrote: OP mentioned about allowing gameme's rcon connection, so this plugin will help him. TCP can be

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread 2xcombatvet
: [hlds] Someone took over server Make sure you also have sv_workshop_allow_other_maps 0 otherwise someone may be able to load a malicious map onto the server. On Jan 23, 2015 10:12 AM, Nomaan Ahmad n0man@gmail.com wrote: OP mentioned about allowing gameme's rcon connection, so this plugin

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Azarus X
...@gmail.com Date:01/23/2015 12:24 (GMT-05:00) To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server Make sure you also have sv_workshop_allow_other_maps 0 otherwise someone may be able to load a malicious map onto the server

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread ics
wazanato...@gmail.com Date:01/23/2015 12:24 (GMT-05:00) To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server Make sure you also have sv_workshop_allow_other_maps 0 otherwise someone may be able to load a malicious map onto

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Kevin C
Sourcemods RCON has limitations. Try getting a full status output with sm_rcon, or anything that returns a lot of information. External plugins or logging tools(HLStats, GameME, Sourcebans) also require RCON. On 1/23/2015 4:14 PM, Weasels Lair wrote: I don't understand why people even enable

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Weasels Lair
I don't understand why people even enable RCON any more. That's what SourceMod and AMX-Mod-X are for. Just use those to lock it down to which players SteamID's will be your admins. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread 2xcombatvet
From: Jesse Oak wazanato...@gmail.com Date:01/23/2015 12:24 (GMT-05:00) To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server Make sure you also have sv_workshop_allow_other_maps 0 otherwise someone may be able to load

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Crazed Gunman
I used it predominantly because I could fix something from at work without having to ssh into my box. I also set the password in-line and not the config to prevent the upload-download exploit from being a problem. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Kit Parenteau
Whitelisting home connections is rather pointless since the majority have dynamic IP addresses that constantly change. Then there's the problem that IP addresses can be easily spoofed. The inbound packets can be source-spoofed, but full TCP links and return UDP will not reach the spoofer

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread William Pickard
As already stated by Crazed Gunman, things like Source Query, SourceBans, Gameme/HLStatsX:CE require the engine's rcon to run commands on the server. On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Weasels Lair wea...@weaselslair.com wrote: I don't understand why people even enable RCON any more. That's what

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread 2xcombatvet
-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server That's good for you, but some communities need it. RCON is fine if used properly, like issuing IP bans for failed attempts etc. In CS:GO sv_allowdownload and sv_allowupload

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Kevin C
That's good for you, but some communities need it. RCON is fine if used properly, like issuing IP bans for failed attempts etc. In CS:GO sv_allowdownload and sv_allowupload can be set to 0 anyway to fix any download exploits since it doesn't support sprays and you should be used

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Weasels Lair
I run hlstats and sourcebans without rcon and do without the rcon integration. On Jan 23, 2015 4:20 PM, William Pickard lollol22...@gmail.com wrote: As already stated by Crazed Gunman, things like Source Query, SourceBans, Gameme/HLStatsX:CE require the engine's rcon to run commands on the

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread 2xcombatvet
Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server That's good for you, but some communities need it. RCON is fine if used properly, like issuing IP bans for failed attempts etc. In CS:GO sv_allowdownload and sv_allowupload can be set to 0 anyway to fix any download exploits since it doesn't

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Kevin C
Sorry, I meant properly using the engines built in ban system for failed login attempts. On our servers I think we allow 5 failed attempts before we IP ban for an hour. On 1/23/2015 11:20 PM, Korrey Moore wrote: RCON is fine if used properly, like issuing IP bans for failed attempts etc.

[hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Korrey Moore
RCON is fine if used properly, like issuing IP bans for failed attempts etc. You don't need RCON to issue an IP ban. Why you'd want to ban someone by IP address is beyond me since IP bans are pretty much useless. I have tried to ban people but the steam I'd doesn't stay in the file it

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Korrey Moore
You should use SMAC's RCON Locker and whitelist IP that you want to allow. http://smac.sx/ Whitelisting home connections is rather pointless since the majority have dynamic IP addresses that constantly change. Then there's the problem that IP addresses can be easily spoofed. It's a TCP

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread 2xcombatvet
Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server Whitelisting home connections is rather pointless since the majority have dynamic IP addresses that constantly change. Then there's the problem that IP addresses can be easily spoofed. The inbound packets can be source-spoofed, but full TCP

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-23 Thread Nomaan Ahmad
OP mentioned about allowing gameme's rcon connection, so this plugin will help him. TCP can be spoofed? I thought that was true for UDP. I have had similar server hijackings in the past, this plugin helped. Blocking off rcon by using rcon_password or disabling TCP altogether might have same

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread 2xcombatvet
: Peter Jerde peter-h...@jerde.net Date:01/22/2015 20:49 (GMT-05:00) To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server What game? Check your logs. It might indicate if there were a bunch of bad rcon password attempts

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread 2xcombatvet
Date:01/22/2015 20:35 (GMT-05:00) To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server Your question is a bit confusing. Are you asking if there is a way to stop someone learning your RCON password or are you asking

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread William Pickard
took over server What game? Check your logs. It might indicate if there were a bunch of bad rcon password attempts before the successful ones came through, or whether the attacker was using some authority granted by one of your plugins (sourcemod or whatnot). Also consider other non-game avenues

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread 2xcombatvet
@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server How do you give your admins admin? By steamid I hope On 2015-01-22 9:01 PM, 2xcombatvet 2xcombat...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry this is for cs go. Ya someone came in and took my server over and even banned my IP address. Had to remove it from

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread 2xcombatvet
: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server What game? Check your logs. It might indicate if there were a bunch of bad rcon password attempts before the successful ones came through, or whether the attacker was using some authority granted by one of your plugins (sourcemod or whatnot

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread Cody Woodson
:01/22/2015 20:35 (GMT-05:00) To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server Your question is a bit confusing. Are you asking if there is a way to stop someone learning your RCON password or are you asking

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread 2xcombatvet
@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server Upload/download exploit possibly. Are you listing your rcon password in your server.cfg? For my community I just block TCP packets to the port 27015 with my firewall and whitelist my IP Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread 2xcombatvet
@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server Upload/download exploit possibly. Are you listing your rcon password in your server.cfg? For my community I just block TCP packets to the port 27015 with my firewall and whitelist my IP Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread Korrey Moore
You should not be using RCON when other alternatives for server administration exist like Source Mod. RCON is basically root access to your server and has almost nil security protection against all sorts of attacks. There have been innumerable RCON exploits exposed over the years on pretty much

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread Daemon Umbra
Original message From: Cody Woodson xxwoodyman123...@sbcglobal.net Date:01/22/2015 21:47 (GMT-05:00) To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server Upload/download exploit possibly. Are you listing

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread Daemon Umbra
: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server Upload/download exploit possibly. Are you listing your rcon password in your server.cfg? For my community I just block TCP packets to the port 27015 with my firewall and whitelist my IP Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2015, at 6:24 PM, 2xcombatvet

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread Tom Weir
+1 on using source mod where possible If you set the rcon password on the command line, it cannot be changed at runtime. On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Korrey Moore ajac...@gmail.com wrote: You should not be using RCON when other alternatives for server administration exist like Source Mod.

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread David Parker
If you absolutely need to leave RCON enabled, then restricting access to it with a firewall rule is probably the best option. In other Valve games there were server cvars to control the number of failed RCON attempts before a client was banned: sv_rcon_banpenalty sv_rcon_maxfailures

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread Nomaan Ahmad
You should use SMAC's RCON Locker and whitelist IP that you want to allow. http://smac.sx/ On 23 January 2015 at 03:50, Tom Weir tw...@geekwerks.ca wrote: +1 on using source mod where possible If you set the rcon password on the command line, it cannot be changed at runtime. On Jan 22,

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread 2xcombatvet
stats? Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Tom Weir tw...@geekwerks.ca Date:01/22/2015 22:50 (GMT-05:00) To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server +1 on using

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread Stephen Swires
T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Original message From: Tom Weir tw...@geekwerks.ca Date:01/22/2015 22:50 (GMT-05:00) To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server +1 on using source mod where

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread 2xcombatvet
-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server +1 on using source mod where possible If you set the rcon password on the command line, it cannot be changed at runtime. On Jan 22, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Korrey Moore ajac

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread Stephen Swires
: Stephen Swires st...@swires.me Date:01/22/2015 23:06 (GMT-05:00) To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] Someone took over server It's a TCP block, dunno why he said HTTP explicitly because it isn't HTTP. On 23 Jan 2015 04:04

[hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread 2xcombatvet
I was getting people to join the server to fill it up and before I joined someone was on my server banning people. He even banned me as I joined. He must have gained access to my econ somehow. I have never gave my econ to no one and no one is set to have access but me. So my question is how do

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread Daemon Umbra
Your question is a bit confusing. Are you asking if there is a way to stop someone learning your RCON password or are you asking if there is another way they got into your server's console? — Sent from Mailbox On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:33 PM, 2xcombatvet 2xcombat...@gmail.com wrote: I was

Re: [hlds] Someone took over server

2015-01-22 Thread Peter Jerde
What game? Check your logs. It might indicate if there were a bunch of bad rcon password attempts before the successful ones came through, or whether the attacker was using some authority granted by one of your plugins (sourcemod or whatnot). Also consider other non-game avenues of connecting