Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different
Hello Sameer, i couldn't watch the video because of the format (.webm), except i am online, because of where i am i can't really watch the video online, can i get a download link. On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Sameer Verma wrote: > > Thank you, Caryl :-) I was a bit pressed for time (I had to pick up my > kids from school), so perhaps I glossed over some of the terms. Yes, please > do move the tracker back and forth, and ask questions. This is a process, > and a process that works. We are not the first with this confusion, and we > have examples in other projects for different but aligned strategies. > Drupal and Drupal Association is one such example. (Note: I serve on the > Board of Directors of the Drupal Association, so I'm familiar with those > details). > > https://www.drupal.org/about/mission-and-principles > https://assoc.drupal.org/about > > cheers, > Sameer > -- > Sameer Verma, Ph.D. > Professor, Information Systems > San Francisco State University > http://verma.sfsu.edu/ > > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Caryl Bigenho > wrote: > >> Hi All... >> >> Very well done Sameer! I hope everyone takes the approximately 35 >> minutes to view this excellent clarification of what exactly is meant by >> terms like "Vision," "Mission," "Goals," "Objectives," and "Tasks." Much >> of the discussions trying to address these items have been a bit >> "off-base," not for a lack of enthusiasm but, rather, from a lack of >> understanding of how things in business (and, yes, in education too) >> actually work. Maybe once we are all speaking the same language we can make >> some concrete progress in addressing these issues. >> >> Sameer is a wonderful person to guide us in this process… after all, as a >> tenured professor in the Business School of San Francisco State University, >> he probably knows more about this process than all the rest of us combined! >> >> Happy viewing…. warning, this is very educational. It is like a lecture >> in a college level… maybe even graduate level course. Expect to be >> challenged. Expect to need to drag the marker back once in a while to >> revisit a term. It will be will worth the time and can serve you well in >> other areas of your life besides Sugar and SugarLabs! >> >> Caryl >> >> -- >> From: sve...@sfsu.edu >> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2016 15:20:49 -0700 >> To: sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org >> Subject: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different >> >> >> It's been interesting to watch the conversations around vision, mission, >> marketing, etc. over the last few weeks. Several observations emerge. Here >> are a few that I think are relevant to us. >> >> 1) There is a lot of confusion over the terms. Vision, Mission, Goals, >> etc. >> 2) Perhaps the confusion stems from not knowing how these pieces fit >> together, and the roles these play. >> 3) There are several confounding variables at play. For example, Sugar is >> a FOSS project. Sugarlabs is an agency established to >> foster/facilitate/support Sugar, the project. However, the two are not the >> same. So, in our effort to establish a strategic plan, the unit of analysis >> should be clear. For me, as a SLOB member, the unit of analysis is >> Sugarlabs, the agency. Everything I look at, is through that lens, >> including Sugar, OLPC, Sugarizer, etc. >> >> I've put together a screencast describing how all these things are >> related. I hope this will bring some clarity. >> https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/18/Sugarlabs-strategy-overview.webm >> >> cheers, >> Sameer >> -- >> Sameer Verma, Ph.D. >> Professor, Information Systems >> San Francisco State University >> http://verma.sfsu.edu/ >> >> ___ IAEP -- It's An Education >> Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > > ___ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different
Great work. Very clear. May be you could share your slides too for those that had no time to see the video. Lionel. 2016-06-25 0:20 GMT+02:00 Sameer Verma : > It's been interesting to watch the conversations around vision, mission, > marketing, etc. over the last few weeks. Several observations emerge. Here > are a few that I think are relevant to us. > > 1) There is a lot of confusion over the terms. Vision, Mission, Goals, > etc. > 2) Perhaps the confusion stems from not knowing how these pieces fit > together, and the roles these play. > 3) There are several confounding variables at play. For example, Sugar is > a FOSS project. Sugarlabs is an agency established to > foster/facilitate/support Sugar, the project. However, the two are not the > same. So, in our effort to establish a strategic plan, the unit of analysis > should be clear. For me, as a SLOB member, the unit of analysis is > Sugarlabs, the agency. Everything I look at, is through that lens, > including Sugar, OLPC, Sugarizer, etc. > > I've put together a screencast describing how all these things are > related. I hope this will bring some clarity. > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/18/Sugarlabs-strategy-overview.webm > > cheers, > Sameer > -- > Sameer Verma, Ph.D. > Professor, Information Systems > San Francisco State University > http://verma.sfsu.edu/ > > ___ > SLOBs mailing list > sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs > > ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different
On 26 June 2016 at 14:04, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote: > Hello Sameer, i couldn't watch the video because of the format (.webm), > except i am online, because of where i am i can't really watch the video > online, can i get a download link. > It was a download link :) The video URL that Sameer gave is the direct file URL, so you can visit it and your browser will play it inline, but if you go File, Save, you'll save the file and then you can watch it with VLC/etc. On 26 June 2016 at 15:48, Lionel Laské wrote: > May be you could share your slides too for those that had no time to see > the video. > +1 BTW there's a (rather bad) youtube autotranscription here - https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016/Call_2 - and I'll post a structured summary shortly in reply to Sameer's email :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different
On 24 June 2016 at 22:28, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > On 24 June 2016 at 18:20, Sameer Verma wrote: >> >> It's been interesting to watch the conversations around vision, mission, >> marketing, etc. over the last few weeks. Several observations emerge. >> Here are a few that I think are relevant to us. >> >> 1) There is a lot of confusion over the terms. Vision, Mission, Goals, etc. > > Sameer is a wonderful person to guide us in this process… after all, as a > tenured > professor in the Business School of San Francisco State University, he > probably > knows more about this process than all the rest of us combined! I agree. I would like to take Sameer's definitions as definitive. Does anyone disagree with doing so? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different
BTW… as with any really good presentation, the slides don't tell the whole story, they mearly enhance it. Doing otherwise results in that tragedy commonly referred to as "Death By Power-Point." So, please find the time to listen and watch the whole thing. If we are lucky, Sameer will find time to do more like this. Caryl > From: d...@lab6.com > Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:01:36 -0400 > Subject: Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different > To: cbige...@hotmail.com > CC: sve...@sfsu.edu; sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org > > On 24 June 2016 at 22:28, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > > On 24 June 2016 at 18:20, Sameer Verma wrote: > >> > >> It's been interesting to watch the conversations around vision, mission, > >> marketing, etc. over the last few weeks. Several observations emerge. > >> Here are a few that I think are relevant to us. > >> > >> 1) There is a lot of confusion over the terms. Vision, Mission, Goals, etc. > > > > Sameer is a wonderful person to guide us in this process… after all, as a > > tenured > > professor in the Business School of San Francisco State University, he > > probably > > knows more about this process than all the rest of us combined! > > I agree. I would like to take Sameer's definitions as definitive. Does > anyone disagree with doing so? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugarlabs and Sugar are different
Hi Sameer, thanks for this! Please can I repost this on the youtube channel, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfsR9AEb7HuPRAc14jfiI6g, with a CC-BY license ? :) Here's an auto transcription: https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vision_proposal_2016/Call_2 On 24 June 2016 at 18:20, Sameer Verma wrote: > > 3) There are several confounding variables at play. For example, Sugar is a > FOSS project. Sugarlabs is an agency established to > foster/facilitate/support Sugar, the project. However, the two are not the > same. So, in our effort to establish a strategic plan, the unit of analysis > should be clear. For me, as a SLOB member, the unit of analysis is > Sugarlabs, the agency. Everything I look at, is through that lens, > including Sugar, OLPC, Sugarizer, etc. > > I've put together a screencast describing how all these things are > related. I hope this will bring some clarity. > https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/images/1/18/Sugarlabs-strategy-overview.webm > In the period 0m-7m, you say that that there should be 2 units of analysis, for Sugar Labs and for Sugar, and therefore 2 separate sets of Vision/Mission/Goals/etc, but these should be aligned. Is this correct? Then 8m-18m, you describe a 7 phase model of a firm: 1. Inbound logistics (capital goods, labour) 2. Operations (production, combination of capital goods and labour to produce commodities; Sugar Labs ) 3. Outbound Logistics (distribution, shipping, go to market; eg each sugar release being minted, and then a distro packaging it, or OLPC taking a sugar release and combining it with some distro) 4. Marketing and Sales (managing perceptions, which for a software freedom project is often not sales as in exchange of commodities for money, but instead the success of propaganda at converting neutral people to advocates who agree with the ideology) 5. Service (Consulting, eg the process of working with schools to realise the value created in earlier stages which may be obvious to us but not to them.) You then group phases 1-3 as 'supply side' and 4-5 as 'demand side,' and note that traditionally OLPC has taken care of the demand side while Sugar Labs has taken care of the supply side; and note that such partitioning of supply/demand often creates conflict in free software projects which have more appreciation for the left side than for the right side; and note that the demand side needs attention as it increases the value of the software created. This all seems sage to me :) Did I miss any essential point? Then 18m-31m you describe a 5 phase model of strategy: 1. Vision (long term) 'dream statement' of where we dream to be in a few years - the world we hope to arrive into, the big picture we are moving towards. 2. Mission (long term) what are we, what do we do, why do we do it - this should hold good for the same amount of time as the Vision; what exists today, that powers us to move towards the Vision 3. Goals (mid term) expected outcomes that are not measurable, eg "Increase adoption of Sugar by non-English-native-speaking children". These typically arise from a SWOT analysis. 4. Objectives (mid term) specific targets that are measurable, eg "Increase 8 translation locales from 80% coverage to 100% coverage before 2017/1/1" 5. Tasks (short term) actual activities that are assigned to people to get done, eg "Chris Leonard to organize volunteers to meet the translation objective." You noted that typically the common focus of activity of free software projects is at the 4-5 level, with bon mots like "release early, release often," while 1-2-3 change slowly and typically get much less attention from free software project contributors, and the Sugar project isn't alone in this. Again, I concur. Something I found missing from your presentation was a guide to how long (ie, in word count) these statements should be. What do you think? You also noted that while there is no general recommendation for what duration to consider long, mid or short term - as this is relative to each given project - and the core idea is that the earlier phases change less often than the latter ones - you give some recommended durations for the lifespan of these statements for the Sugar Project. I therefore propose the following concrete dates for these durations, that are within your recommended durations: 1. Vision (now - 2020/1/1) 2. Mission (now - 2020/1/1) 3. Goals (now - 2018/1/1) 4. Objectives (now - 2018/1/1) 5. Tasks (now - 2017/1/1) You also note that this phase strategy is a framework for situating the SWOT analysis that Sean called for, that is, it is a method for defining Objectives. You point to the 2x2 matrix graphic on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWOT_analysis and note that Strengths/Weaknesses are internal to the project - aspects that we control - while Opportunities/Threats are external, beyond our control; and these can be combined to generate 4 categories of objectives: 1. S + O = things to pursue 2. W + O = things to convert 3. S + T = thin
