[IAEP] Jaime Escalante
Hello All, I have sad news tonight, Jaime Escalante has lost his battle with cancer. He passed away today. I knew Jaime when we were both working at Garfield High in East Los Angeles, and contacted him a couple of years ago about the possibility of sharing some of his mathemagic with OLPC. We arranged for him to have an XO to play with in the hopes that he would come up with some ideas that could be developed for use in Sugar. Unfortunately, his health problems got in the way, and it was not to be. Here is the Los Angeles Times article about Jaime. It will give you an idea of the kind of teacher he was: http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-jaime-escalante31-2010mar31,0,7083760.story Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Microwaved XO for sale on ebay!
Hi All... OK thought you had seen everything? Check this out... http://bit.ly/bMyGm7 Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Argentina List
Hi Folks, Some interesting stuff is going on on the Argentina mailing list. If you read Español or can tolerate Google translate, you might want to listen in. If you don't want to sign up, you can read the Archives. Sign up or read theArchives here: http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/argentina Caryl (aka Carolina) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists
Martin is sooo right! A great focus would be in making SoaS very non-techie friendly so that average classroom teachers and parents can use it and share it with children. The number of tech-savvy teachers is pathetically small. The CUE (Computer Using Educators) conference early this month had over 1000 attendees out of about 307,000 teachers in California! That is a paltry 0.3257%! And many of those attending really were beginners. These people need the easiest possible entry into the wonderful world of Sugar. Caryl From: martin.langh...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:46:49 -0400 To: walter.ben...@gmail.com CC: m...@melchua.com; market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; s...@sugarlabs.org; pbrobin...@gmail.com; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; to...@tomeuvizoso.net Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: the real intention is this is where you start But... what's the target user for a this is where you start? Someone who can make their own spin... there's only very few of those target users, and they can help themselves (IOWs if there isn't a SoaS, they'll yum install sugar-*, set gdm to autologin and they'll be ok). Not many of those users are close to a school. Teachers who want to use SoaS in a classroom... there are lots of them... and they don't want to learn how to make spins. It's usually hard enough to burn the USB sticks so that they boot already. And they need many activities to be included, so they can give it to 6 or 7 year olds... Yes, there are some teachers who have a geek sidekick with linux/fedora know-how, but that's a vanishingly small number... cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists
Hi... In July 2009 I installed SoaS on my Mac using a CD made by Scott Dowdle at Bozeman LUG/Montana State University. It currently lives in Virtual Box on my computer. I don't have the CD any more. Since then, I have been using it to demo Sugar to several hundred people at meetings and conferences in Montana, California, and even Argentina! The Activities include: Jigsaw Puzzle InfoSlicer IRC Moon Memorize Speak Turtle Art Etoys Pippy and Jukebox Some work better than others. I haven't been able to get Jukebox to work at all. Perhaps it would be a good idea to make a prototype of the SoaS version you want to use and have ordinary folks test it on a variety of platforms. There should certainly be more than 6 Activities. BTW, Speak and Memorize are hits everywhere. Caryl From: martin.langh...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:54:04 -0400 To: m...@melchua.com CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; s...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote: The short version is that instead of include all Activites by default, we're thinking of shipping very few (6) Activities by default - the ones that help users get further Activities and help I read Sebastian's post... and is less drastic than that. He seems to say: include only the well tested, known to work, actively maintained activities, with an eye towards activitries that serve as a good intro to the platform and that demo well. But you say only 6... Which one is it? The initial proposal I like; makes a lot of sense and raises the bar. IT basically increases the chances of a satisfactory first use. Six activities not so much -- you need many steps + internet to add activities... and it'll be random activity from ASLO, may well be unstable or useless. It significantly _reduces_ chances of satisfaction. All IMHO... m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists
OK. Let's focus a bit here. In the spirit of IAEP, I wonder who this version of SoaS will be for... educators and students or developers? It seems like the discussion is favoring the latter. That would be a big disappointment to those of us who are waiting to have a good stable version to share with the education community. While Physics is a fun Activity, the Memorize Activity can offer far more in educational value, and works fine in the version of SoaS I have (old... from June 2009... I sent the list of Activities in an earlier email). The folks at Sugar Labs Argentina did almost all of their teacher training in La Rioja using SoaS on PCs because only a few XO-1.5s had arrived when the training took place last month. Why doesn't someone techie who is fluent in el Castellano communicate with them and find out what Activities and version they used? It might be helpful. Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists
Hi... Some of us are blocked from posting on the Marketing List, I think that is how it got divided. Luke has some great ideas here... From: l...@faraone.cc To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: martin.langh...@gmail.com; pbrobin...@gmail.com; m...@melchua.com; market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; i...@solarsail.media.mit.edu; s...@sugarlabs.org Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:51:24 -0400 Subject: Re: [IAEP] SoaS change of direction: heads-up on convos in other lists On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 13:40, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: OK. Let's focus a bit here. In the spirit of IAEP, I wonder who this version of SoaS will be for... educators and students or developers? It seems like the discussion is favoring the latter. That would be a big disappointment to those of us who are waiting to have a good stable version to share with the education community. Sounds to me like it's for deployers, people looking to make derivatives of SoaS. As Silbe said, there are tools for building new images with more activities. On the other hand, it would be useful to have an all inclusive version of SoaS for instant-on usage of the system. Or, better, to have it be incredibly easy to download from ASLO activities that have been tested and QAd, and to have these activities widely promoted on the page. Yes! this would be wonderful! Could it be done before April 24? (I can dream can't I?). Caryl -- Luke Faraone http://luke.faraone.cc ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Attend the CUE (Computer Using Educators) Conference in your PJs!
Hi All, The CUE Conference (Computer Using Educators) will be this coming weekend in Palm Springs CA, and through the magic of Classroom 2.0 you can attend, free from wherever you are. All you have to do is sign up for Classroom 2.0 and learn to use the Eluminate Conferencing tool. While Eluminate is not Open Source, the founder and head of Classroom 2.0, Steve Hargadon, is one of the country's biggest Open Source advocates in education. In addition to doing Classroom 2.0, he is the one in charge of the Open Source Pavillion at CUE. Eluminate supports his efforts by providing free conference rooms (and any individual can also sign up for a 3-seat virtual office with them). The conference goes for 3 days and Steve has listed some of the presentations that will be featured. Some are hour long regular sessions and others are 30 min shorter sessions. If you scroll down to Friday you will see that I am doing a 30 min session from 3:15 to 3:45 pm (PT) on Friday afternoon. This is a great opportunity for those of you who are not working in the classroom to see what today's teachers are really interested in. Many of these sessions offer great ideas that can be adopted/adapted to Sugar users. If you have any questions, please, just send me an email. I will attach links to the CUE Conference schedule where you can read more about what the sessions plan to cover. Caryl http://www.cue.org/conference/sessions/(Regular Sessions) http://www.cueunplugged.com/ (Shorter, 30 min sessions) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:28:04 + From: m...@classroom20.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com Subject: Live and Interactive Events This Week Network Email Classroom 2.0 A message to all members of Classroom 2.0 Below are this week's public, free, and interactive webinars through LearnCentral.org, my project at Elluminate. Event recordings are available after the events at the same links.. Monday, March 1st 5:00pm PST (US) / 1:00am (next day) GMT/UTC (Intl): School Library Web Presence in the TL Cafe. Joyce Valenza and Gwyneth Jones host a discussion of effective practice and essential elements with Carolyn Foote, Buffy Hamilton, and Barbara Jansen. http://www.learncentral.org/event/56811 Wednesday, March 3rd 1:00am PST (US) / 9:00am GMT/UTC (Intl): Anne Mirtschin hosts e...@lking Tuesdays as part of The Australia Series: Too young to use technology in the classroom? Come meet Amanda Marrinan, from Queensland, Australia who has connected her ‘littlies’ to others around the globe via her class blog. http://www.learncentral.org/event/56321 9:30am PST (US) / 5:30pm GMT/UTC (Intl): Shannon Autrey Forte presents Shannon's Bright Ideas Center Publish! Showcase. We will look at Best Practices when using Publish! and share Bright Ideas. http://www.learncentral.org/event/59556 6:30pm PST (US) / 2:30am (next day) GMT/UTC (Intl): Maria Droujkova presents Math 2.0 Weekly! http://www.learncentral.org/event/59556 Thursday, March 4th ALL DAY: Live streaming from the Computer-Using Educators (CUE) Conference in Palm Springs. Sessions from the CUE Unplugged area at http://www.CUEUnplugged.com include Harnessing the Power of Web 2.0+ in School Administration by Bradford Burns and Politics and Civic Engagement for Our Digital Generation by Cheryl Davis. http://www.learncentral.org/event/50928 2:00pm PST (US) / 11:00pm GMT/UTC (Intl): Jane Krauss and Suzie Boss host Better with Practice: PBL Implementation Tips from the Field Session 2. The second in a series. Keeping Your Project on the Rails. Visit http://www.classroom20.com/group/pblbetterwithpractice http://www.learncentral.org/event/50928 5:00pm PST (US) / 11:00pm GMT/UTC (Intl): (Repeat) Jane Krauss and Suzie Boss host Better with Practice: PBL Implementation Tips from the Field Session 2. A second serving of the above. http://www.learncentral.org/event/51454 Friday, March 5th ALL DAY: Live streaming from the Computer-Using Educators (CUE) Conference in Palm Springs. Sessions from the CUE Unplugged area at http://www.CUEUnplugged.com include: Building Social Constructivist Learning Environments in Online Settings with Tammy Stephens Including Technology in your Unit Planning Using Understanding by Design (UbD) by Alice Mercer “Hey, Just Because It Is Online Doesn’t Mean We Can’t Have Field Trips, Right?” by Todd Conaway Educational Social Networking for Professional Development by me Sugar In Your Classroom. How Sweet It Is! by Caryl Bigenho. Formal sessions (http://www.cue.org/conference/anywhere) will include: Rigorous Learning through Digital Storytelling by Cindi Crandall Digital Storytelling across the Curriculum by Arnie Abrams Videoconferencing in the Classroom by Richard Mellott Library
[IAEP] Argentina Training DVD
Hi All (again!), Argentina has produced a follow-up DVD for the teachers recently trained in La Rioja. Here is a link to the story: http://www.idukay.edu.ar/dirprimaria/ Caryl P.S. I want one! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Finally trying Sugar
Hi Marilyn, Where are you in TX? You might be interested in what the New Tech High is doing with Sugar and an OLPC Contributors Program project in Coppell TX (near DFW). Here is a link to their website: http://newtechcoppell.org/New_Tech/Home.html Be sure to check their blog. A copy of their Contributors Program application is also in the site. Caryl (retired teacher/OLPC-SugarLabs Support Volunteer) Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 18:15:36 +0100 From: Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [IAEP] Finally trying Sugar To: mari...@ourdyslexicchildren.org Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Message-ID: 378b2b051002260915q2e6f80a6kf0418633ca4f9...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Greetings Marilyn - that's very exciting! We are eager to hear about what works ( doesn't); don't hesitate to ask questions - there are teachers and techies here on the list! Sean On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:44 PM, mari...@ourdyslexicchildren.org wrote: Hi there! Thanks to you all for your hard work. I am a high school tech teacher in Texas. I wasn't able to figure out how to put Sugar on a USB drive, but was able to burn it to a CD. Now I have made copies for all of my students (115) plus a classroom set. We are going to play with it in class for the next couple of weeks. The students who have tried it already and my own children (8 10) are very excited about it. Creativity and collaboration. Wow. Hopefully we can explore all of the features. Marilyn :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar?
Hola Pato y Sebastian (e otros), ¿En sus opiniones, cual sería lo más facil usar para esto? ¿eToys o Scratch? Carolina From: patitoacev...@hotmail.com To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 21:00:50 + CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] Drama / Theater in Sugar? Hola Sebastian: Tal vez quieras probar scratch para contar historias interactivas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_yaKT0zCd0 También Etoys podría servir para tu propósito: http://www.waveplace.com/resources/tutorials/movie.jsp?id=78 Saludos Pato Hotmail es confiable. Con autenticación de remitentes y filtros Anti-Spam mejorados. Ver más. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Girls in Open Source
Hi All... Check this out! I found the link on Twitter. I missed the girls session as I was involved in the OSSIE track and they were in the WIOS track. Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] SCaLE 8X Update
Hi All... Here are a few random musings about the first 2 days of SCaLE 8X. Day One... OSSIE (Open Source Software In Education)... my presentation went well and a lot of folks have commented on how much they enjoyed it. It was definitely low tech. I had a slide set to talk about followed by a demonstration of some of the Sugar Activities using SoaS Strawberry running on my Mac with the help of Virtual Box. Not many teachers attended. Too hard to get Friday off. It would be nice if this track could be on Saturday. Some of the OSSIE track talks were very high tech... way over my head. Did hear one about web filters that I could understand at least some of... it was interesting. Another about programmable robots was interesting too. Day Two... We had our OLPC/Sugar Labs booth. Powered up my Roadshow In A BOx (5 XO-1s and one XO-1.5). Soon after, the internet police came by to tell us that our mesh network was messing up the conference wifi. I didn't know this could happen. He told us to connect them to the wifi to eliminate the problem. We did and it must have worked because he didn't come back... not to us anyway. Lots of people played with both the XO-1s and the 1.5. There is a lot of interest in getting a 1.5, especially among the ones who already have an XO-1. Someone suggested that a special G1G1 program with the 1.5s could be done at tech conferences like SCaLE. This would have the added advantage of getting the machines into the hands of more developers. Adam said if I could get 10 people to sign up for a SoCal mailing list we could have one. I already have close to 50 interested people and there is still tomorrow! Interesting thing happened with Speak after running it for a while. On some (not all), the mouth stopped moving. Closing and re-opening the Activity did not help. I was able to get one of them to do the frequency mode, but the other 2 modes did not work. Very strange! I got some help making a SoaS from someone in the Engineers Without Borders booth next to ours. In fact, they made one for me. The folks in the LUG booth on the other side of them couldn't figure out how to do it. Something about they were running the wrong kind of Linux??? Someone else took a stick from me to make one in the exhibit hall and never brought it back. Maybe tomorrow. The ethernet to usb connectors Adam sent for swag are a big hit. I have been giving them to everyone who tells me they are an XO owner. Some will go to others tomorrow since it looks like I should have enough. I also gave out some of the picture cards Adam sent. I tried printing information and links on the back of them but the paper has a very slick finish and the ink just sort of balled up and smeared. I gave up. The information is on the back of my business card anyway, which I give them along with the picture card. Tomorrow we will have the booth again and I will be doing a 1 hour hands-on session right after lunch. We will use 10 XOs from the CUELA XO lending library and 6 m-stock machines I have repaired. The Roadshow machines will stay in the booth. We will also have one PC set up as a station where people can make their own SoaS (if they bring a usb drive) and machines for then to try them on. The one they make them on will be running Windows. Unfortunately that appears to be the easiest way to make them. Linux has too many varieties and Mac can't do it stand-alone. So much for the open source purists. 2 people from the UCSB Contributors Program project will be coming tomorrow to help in the booth. I met someone who worked on the XO-1.5 software and also has a 1.5 at the conference. He is a Gnash developer. I will get his name tomorrow. It is late. I am still on South American time and right now it would be 4 am. Nitey-nite! Caryl P.S. Don't you all wish you were here? P.P.S. Tomorrow's (Sunday's) conference call/online meeting sounds great. Unfortunately, it comes at the same time as my hands-on session so I will have to miss it. I hope it is recorded. If you get a chance to attend... don't miss it! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] SoaS Survey For SCaLE 8X
Hi All You Sugar Fans, Sorry for the short timeline on this, but I just got back from South America and am putting the finishing touches on this project. I will be going to SCaLE 8X this weekend to give a presentation on OLPC and Sugar on Friday, have a booth for both on Saturday and Sunday and a hands-on workshop on Sunday. I could really use some information about experiences you all have had using SoaS, both Strawberry and Blueberry. So I have made a quick little survey of things it would be helpful for me to know. If you can take a couple of minutes to copy and paste the survey into an email, answer the questions, and just send it to me sometime before midnight tonight (ET) I will compile the results to use at SCaLE 8X and will also share them with all of you. So we don't load everyone's mailbox with results they don't need, be sure you just send it to me: ca...@laptop.org or cbige...@hotmail.com Thanks! Caryl P.S. If you know of anyone else who would have an insight on this and won't get a copy of this email, could you forward it on to them? Thanks again! __ Survey: Please answer according to your personal experiences with both SoaS-1 (Strawberry) and SoaS-2 (Blueberry), indicted below as S and B 1) What machines have you had success with running SoaS? S: B: 2) Have you had any problems with any particular machines? S: B: 3) Have you successfully used a live CD for either S or B? S: B: 4) Have you been able to get the machines to use the mesh with S or B? If so what machines worked? S: B: 5) Have you been able to get SoaS to utilize the computer's camera and/or mic in the Record Activity? (neither one works on my MacBook using S and Virtual Box) S: B: 6) Have you used SoaS with students? If so, which Activities were the most useful? S: B: 7) What is your favorite Activity on SoaS and why? S: B: 8) Have you been able to download any additional Activities to your SoaS stick? If so which ones? S: B: 9) What size usb drive do you use? and what is your favorite brand (I know there was a big discussion about brands last week, but I missed most of it since I was still in South America). S: B: 10) Do you have any helpful hints I can pass along? S: B: ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Blueberry Strawberry Activities Lists?
Hi, I'm working on my presentation for SCaLE 8X this weekend and do not at the moment have access to Blueberry and Strawberry SoaS. Can someone give me links to lists of Activities included in each of these? Thanks, Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] 2 Major Sugar Issues
Hi... see below... Was he trying to burn onto the CD with Blueberry? This shouldn't be needed, he can just use his favorite disc burning application. Right... he was using his favorite disk burning app. --Sebastian Caryl = ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] 2 Major Sugar Issues
Hi Martin... Do you/they know Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com? He is involved with developing FotoToon and has some XOs to work with. He is meeting with us Monday evening to talk with the school principal (la directora), vp and tech person. He has sent emails inviting others from the OLPC Argentina community to join us. Perhaps the folks you know already are coming? Bilingual would be great! Caryl Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:05:42 +0100 Subject: Re: [IAEP] 2 Major Sugar Issues From: martin.langh...@gmail.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org; ibarr...@gmail.com; alec...@gmail.com On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: These folks are eager to get something going with Sugar in Argentina without waiting for a big government project that will buy XOs. We need to help There are loads of top-notch technical talent in Argentina, and amongst them there's a great group of volunteers for the Sugar/OLPC cause. I am CC'ing two of them (Alecu and Gustavo Ibarra) and they are in touch with a larger community. They aren't teachers, but they sure know the tech side, and are fully bilingual. In terms of teacher content, howtos, etc in spanish, just read all the fantastic material in the Ceibal portal. There is friendly rivalry between Uy and Argentina, but we're brothers of one same blood, and one same river. And the school content is very similar too ;-) cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] 2 Major Sugar Issues
Hi... I found it! (red face) I didn't scroll down far enough... was expecting a pull down menu at the top left like over on the olpc wiki. Now I can at least print out the instructions. Thanks! Caryl Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:26:30 -0500 From: cjlhomeaddr...@gmail.com To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] 2 Major Sugar Issues On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi... Two rather huge issues: 1) Sugar Labs does not have Spanish translations available on either the SoaS Strawberry or Blueberry web pages. I wanted to print these out to take to the school in Argentina that wants to do a Sugar deployment in the PC lab in one of their elementary schools. There doesn't even seem to be an autotranslate button. We can't expect the whole world to be able to read and understand English. Caryl, On the Sugar Labs wiki, look on the left sidebar (towards the bottom) There is a largish list of language names under the heading Google Translations. You want to click on Español for the spanish autotranslation. http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Blueberrylangpair=en|eshl=esie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8 http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Strawberrylangpair=en|eshl=esie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8 For self-service, anytime you see a webpage that you want translated, just go to http://translate.google.com/ and paste the URL link in the box, select the desired to and from languages, click Translate and you will get that web-page fed through Googles translation engine. It is simply a fact of life that wiki content changes so dynamically that it is extremely challenging, if not impractical to keep synchronous translation pages going. Wikipedia itself maintains entirely separate wikis for different languages, with links between similar articles being added, but no true synchronization of the content. Google Translation links like those on the Sugar Labs wiki are the best compromise, even with all of the obvious faults of machine translation. cjl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Small SoaS Disaster
Hi All, I was playing in PC Land yesterday, trying to get a working SoaS Blueberry. Downloaded the live usb maker from the net. Made the stick. Put it in daughter-in-law's medium-sized hp netbook and tried it. After we finally got it booted (she insisted it wouldn't work, only Windows would) she pushed some button or clicked some icon and there it was! Tried Speak... great... spoke reasonably good Spanish. Tried paint... beautiful. Checked the Journal... working fine. Checked out TamTam Mini... it froze. Did a force quit. Started it up again and tried to make another stick with Strawberry. Totally crashed the PC! It kept trying to start up, said it was fixing the system software, shut down, started up again...etc over and over and over! Finally, after more than an hour of this, she did a force quit and put it away. Is it possible that there is a virus in: http://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator ?? While she has other computers, this is a very bad disaster! My son, the PC guru says not to worry, you can't break a PC. I sort of doubt him. Any ideas about what could have happened, how to fix it, and how to avoid it next time? Thanks,Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Very Old SoaS Works on Mac
Well... I tried my very old (in software terms... 9+ months) version of Strawberry that is still installed on my Mac via virtual box (also an old version). It still works. Limited activities but if I don't get the newer versions figured out, at least I will have something to show the folks in Buenos Aires when I visit their school on Monday. We are still trying to get the Blueberry file on a CD that people down there can use to make usb sticks and maybe a liveCD they can play. Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Cheap Air to SCaLE 8X
Hi Folks, A lot of airlines are having sales right now so I checked the fares for Boston to LAX. You could come in to LAX on Virgin America on Thursday (Feb 18) for $109 (one way) and return to Boston on Monday (Feb 22) for another $109. That makes a fare of $218 plus tax. To return on Sunday would cost $88 more. The Monday return flight at that price is a red-eye that gets in Tues morning. Here's a link to their website. http://www.virginamerica.com/va/home.do You still have until Friday (JAN 15) to submit a proposal for a presentation in the OSSIE and WIOS tracks which take place on Friday Feb 19. Here is the link to the CFP: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale8x/scale-8x-call-papers Hope to see some of you there! Caryl P.S. Other airlines may have competitive fares, if you have the time to check. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] ***SweetXOGrannie's Upcoming Great Southern Adventure
Hi Support Gangers and IAEP friends, Adam suggested I send you all a copy of my itinerary for our trip to South America. I guess this is supposed to be so you can help my clients if something comes up while I am gone. I will be taking my Mac and probably an XO. I may also take a Sugar LiveCD and a usb drive with SoaS. There will be free wifi in all the hotels we are staying at but on the cruise ship it will be very expensive! I will probably temporarily cancel my mailing lists to cut down on the volume to my mailbox, but you all will have my direct email address if you need it for something urgent. Just put *** at the start of the subject so I will spot it right away (see the subject of this message to see what I mean). So here is my fun (make you all jealous) itinerary: Jan 19-22 Stopover in Dallas area to visit with family there Jan 22-23 Overnight flight from Dallas to Buenos Aires, and summer! Jan 23-26 Buenos Aires where we plan to see the city, take some tango lessons, meet a tango musician friend of our daughter, meet with some OLPC-sur folks, and eat a lot of beef, and shop Jan 27-29 Trip to Iguazu Falls, hike in the hot steamy jungle, see lots of birds and other wildlife, enjoy the fantastic waterfalls, cool off in the hotel pool, and shop Jan 29-31 Back for the last tango in Buenos Aires and shopping. Jan 31 Board cruise ship for 2 week trip around the horn to Valparaiso Feb 1 Montevideo Uruguay: meet with some of the folks from Project Ceibal, including Rosamel whose wonderful blog provided 2 of the stories I wrote for Class Acts., and go shopping Feb 2 At sea Feb 3 Puerto Madryn AR: visit a penguin colony at Punta Tambo. Wonder if the penguins are selling anything? Feb 4 At sea Feb 5 Port Stanley in the Falklands/Malvines (if weather permits) getting colder. Shop? Feb 6 Very special day at sea... around the horn Expect very cold weather Feb 7 Ushuaia AR... visit Tierra Fuego NP including the post office at the end of the world, also hunt for the southernmost geocache in the Americas (maybe drop off a travel bug). Sail the Beagle Channel in the late afternoon. Still cold. Shoping Feb 8 Punta Arenas Chile... hire a guide and explore. Probably still cold. Shopping. Feb 9 At sea in the Strait of Magellan Feb 10 At sea in the Chilean Fjords Feb 11 Puerto Chacabuco Chile... same latitude as Montana, except south possibly visit a small town or national park. Maybe a little warmer, but not much. Shop Feb 12 Puerto Montt Chile... possible visit to Chiloé (island) or small town. Shop Feb 13 At sea Feb 14-15 Arrive in Valparaiso Chile... stay 2 days, unwind and thaw out on the beach, tour historic city and museums, Shop Feb 16-17 Take tour van to Santiago for overnight flight back to the US Feb 17-18 Decompress at home Feb 19-21 SCaLE 8X at Westin LAX (if I can do it, why can't you guys?) Shop? So, my suitcase is getting filled up with everything from shorts and bathing suits to balaclavas and silk long johns, hiking boots to dance shoes, and everything in between, and there is a 50 lb limit! So you see, I'm kidding about the shopping. I won't have room to bring much home in that suitcase will I? I do hope to find a really good book about the birds of South America in Buenos Aires and maybe a few tiny artisanal items along the way. And, of course, we will bring home lots of photos. Any ideas of other people or places I should try to see along the way? Saludos, Caryl/Carolina ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] contents of Need Resources for Presentation
Hi... Are you talking about me and SCaLE 8X? I don't think the projector will work with an XO. The XO doesn't have a port for the projector dongle does it? I plan to make my presentation from slides I already have plus a few new ones. I will admit that I am not a purist. When the presentation program in Open Office kept crashing during the prep of my first slide show, I finally gave up in frustration and went out and bought Work for my Mac. I can comfortably make a nice presentation in Keynote and then export it to ppt, pdf, or open office and use it there. At SCaLE it has to be run on one of their machines with open office. I think they will also allow pdf. I'd better check to be sure. Maybe I could run it from Open Office on my Mac. I'll have to check. Doesn't look like we will have a SugarLabs booth at SCaLE... unless someone commits in the next few days. Too bad. It's free! Caryl Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:08:32 +1300 From: tabitha.ro...@gmail.com To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] contents of Need Resources for Presentation BTW: I thought you're making your presentation on your XO. :) Hum... is there a PPT type presentation program for the XO? Will it drive a projector for projection on a large screen? Maybe next time. It would be a great idea if it is do-able. The learning curve would probably be too long for the one next Sat. but Feb is a possibility... if all the needed pieces are there. try turtle art portfolio, Walter wrote that so he could present in Sugar ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: SugarLabs Booth at SCaLE 8X?
Hi Walter, Mel, Caroline, Sameer, Scott, and everyone else... Here is an offer we can't refuse! There is no way I can do a separate booth for SugarLabs, but had planned to do it in combination with the OLPC booth. However, they are offering us a second free booth for SugarLabs right next to the OLPC booth at this large, prestigeus (sp?) Linux Expo (they even know about it in New Zealand!). This would ideally be done by someone with experience writing Linux code for Sugar Activities and someone with extensive experience with SoaS both on usb and live cd. BYO Laptops! I am cutting my trip to South America short by a few days to do this. Surely, some of you can scrape up a few $$$ to come to sunny SoCal? Maybe SWA has a sale? Maybe someone has FF miles? Maybe you could pool some of your FF miles? Just think... hundreds of Linux developers will be there! Many are very interested in Sugar and the XO. Mel and Caroline, if you decide to come, there is a special Women In Open Source track and an Education Trackon Friday. You could both do presentations. I have signed up to do an overview type presentation in the Education Track. Everything else, including the exhibits, starts on Saturday. Think about it... we need to get back with Gareth Greenaway if we want the second booth. Caryl Please pass this on to anyone else who should receive a copy! Gareth's message follows: Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 08:23:45 -0800 To: cbige...@hotmail.com From: notification+pd=od...@facebookmail.com Subject: Gareth J. Greenaway sent you a message on Facebook... Gareth sent you a message. Re: SCaLE8X Hi Caryl, Just wanted to point out first off that the exhibit hall isn't open on Friday. Just Saturday and Sunday, so if you wanted to submit a talk for one of the Friday events there wouldn't be a conflict. Exhibitors can setup their booths on Friday, but the attendees do not have access to them until Saturday morning. You might also considering hosting a Birds of a Feather sessions? That might be a good way to get the word out about OLPC SugarLabs, in a less formal environment. Will the OLPC booth at SCALE be a combined booth for both OLPC SugarLabs? Or do you think SugarLabs would be interested in their own booth? We would have it next to the OLPC booth. Thanks! Gareth To reply to this message, follow the link below: http://www.facebook.com/n/?inbox%2Freadmessage.phpt=1103215879817mid=1a9703fG5438e871Ga325aaG0 ___ Find people from your Windows Live address book on Facebook! Go to: http://www.facebook.com/find-friends/?ref=email This message was intended for cbige...@hotmail.com. Want to control which emails you receive from Facebook? Go to: http://www.facebook.com/editaccount.php?notifications=1md=bXNnO2Zyb209NjIyNDI2NjkwO3Q9MTEwMzIxNTg3OTgxNzt0bz0xNDEzMDE1NjY1 Facebook's offices are located at 1601 S. California Ave., Palo Alto, CA 94304. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] SCaLE 8X
Hi All... Anyone want to join me in the OLPC booth at SCaLE 8X at the Westin LAX Feb 19-21? It may rain, but the weather is usually better than the rest of the country that time of year. Here is a link to the list of exhibitors, so far. More will probably be added. Let me know if you can make it! http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale8x/exhibitors Caryl (aka SweetXOGrannie) P.S. I will have several XO-1.0s, one XO-1.5 and, hopefully, SoaS to show. I can really use help from a PC person for the latter... I'm a Mac! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Is there a stable version of Sugar?
Hi all... In mid-January I will be in Buenos Aires for about a week. There is an elemenary school principal there who has a computer lab full of PCs all loaded up with Microsoft Office (for 6-12 year-olds!) that sits idle most of the time since the teachers are hesitant to use the computers. Sad. Sugar to the rescue! Can we make it happen? How can we make it happen? Is there a really stable version of SoaS or live CD I can take with me to show her how it can help her teachers and students love the computers and improve the learning of the students? It doesn't have to be the latest bells-and whistles version... just one that will work reliably. I can take one or 2 copies with me to demonstrate and I can show her how she can download the rest. Will Blueberry be ready? Should I take Strawberry instead? Can we even come up with a slimmed-down but very stable version that will work? Looking forward to your replies/suggestions... Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Zero Sugar
Hi Folks, I asked this before, but I guess my question was missed. For us slightly less techie...what is Zero Sugar? It sounds like we are all going on a diet! ;-D Caryl P.S. This is a serious question and while you are at it, what is a blob? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Video Editor for the XO?
Hi SG and Sugar Labs folks... Some time ago I asked about the possibility of a video editor for Sugar. I think someone might have been working on one then, but haven't heard anything about it for a long time. Now there is interest again in Latin America. I am translating the dialogue below and the original text is below that. What is the status of the video editor project? It would be really nice to have one. Caryl ___ Translated message from the Sur list: Question from Mariana Herrera: Does anyone know if a video editor exists for the XO? Is it possible for the children to edit the videos they take with their computers? An answer from Horacio Calleros: It appears that the project Colingo (a video editor) has not continued. Test to see if this online editor is useful: http://youmashtube.com/ Original message in Spanish: Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:22:06 -0200 From: horacio.calle...@gmail.com To: olpc-...@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [Sur] Editor de videos en la Xo? Parece ser que el proyecto de Colingo (editor de video) que no se continuó. Probá si http://youmashtube.com/ editor en línea te es útil. Cómo te fue en las clases???; Saludos, nos vemos pronto o en el 2010. El 9 de diciembre de 2009 22:44, Mariana Herrera mariana@gmail.com escribió: Alguien sabe si existe algún editor de videos para las Xo? Es posible que los niños puedan editar los videos que toman en sus computadoras? Gracias. -- Mariana Herrera ___ Lista olpc-Sur olpc-...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur ___ Lista olpc-Sur olpc-...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Local Labs for Mexico
Hi... Some of the best guides for using Sugar Software were written in Mexico. While they are not as up-to-date as the wonderful ones we recently got from Peru, they do cover some of the Activities that no one else discusses in detail (e.g. parts of the TamTam suite). The guide was produced by Carlos Slim''s foundation. Here is the link in case you haven't seen it: http://www.mochiladigitaltelmex.com.mx/olpc/index.php/Talleres_Mochila_Digital_Telmex And the part with the guides is here: http://www.mochiladigitaltelmex.com.mx/olpc/index.php/Herramientas_pedag%C3%B3gicas It would be really great if these guides could be updated and translated into target languages. Perhaps a Sugar Lab in Mexico could do the updates and then others could contribute the localizations. Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Need Resources for Presentation
Hi... I am working on my presentation about volunteering with OLPC for Moorpark College next week. I'm using my daughter's Mac since my screen still doesn't light up and I'm saving things on a USB stick. I could really use some help finding resources. The college wants me to discuss starting a University Chapter, among other things. I've been looking at the chapter listings on the wiki and have found most are not at all up-to-date. I have a couple of photos from UCSB that I can use, but would like more. Can anyone point me to some links? It would be nice to have a picture of a meeting somewhere and of students doing some of the things their chapters do. I also wanted to talk about Repair Centers, but the only photos I have found on the Flickr stream about repairs were from Mongolia. Does anyone else have photos of their center? Do any of you have any ideas of other things I should mention about volunteering? I plan to give plugs for the S-G, Contributors Program, Repair Centers, Libraries, Translating, Testing, and OLPCorps (I really wish I had the current up-to-date info for that one). I plan to post my slides (usually very content rich) so anyone else who wants to use them can. I look forward to hearing great suggestions from all you folks! TIA, Caryl P.S. My Mac has an appointment this afternoon to see if it is salvageable. My husband says I should just buy a new one, but I really don't want the hassle at this time and I don't care for Snow Leopard. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Mac Disaster at DFW
Hi My Mac got smashed today at security at DFW. Ed placed the tray with my computer on the track going thru the scanner and as he turned to put another tray on (there was a 18-24 gap between the track and the table), the TSA agent backed the track about 8 knocking the tray with my computer into the gap and onto the floor. It still boots and runs fine, but the screen has lost its backlight. It I use a really bright flashlight, I can barely make out the image. Now I need to do work for the SG and my presentation for Moorpark College. :-( Not sure how I will pull it off I will visit the Apple store this weekend and file a claim with the TSA, but I think this will end up costing me a lot of $$$. Caryl (written on my XO test machine) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] A Couple of Comments/Questions
Hi All, Just reading through all your interesting posts from the past couple of days. I have a couple of ideas to share... Re: From Walter... 5. The Spanish-language version of Sdenka Z. Salas Pilco's guide to using Sugar in the classroom is available on the wiki (Please see [http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:La_Laptop_XO_en_el_Aula.pdf]). This is a wonderful resource. Is it available for localizing into other languages? Are there any special permissions we would need to get? From Sean... At launch time we can have a wiki page explaining how to find and load an eBook. Could we also add it to the Help Activity included with Sugar and the online FLOSS Manual? Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] What is the purpose of Sugar and the XO?
Hi All, I am seeing more and more folks who want free XOs to teach children IT skills and computer skills. I think we need to somehow re-emphasize the value of the XO as a learning tool for subject matter related to the school curriculum and meta learning. The Sugar software is such an important part of this. All the other features of Sugar and the XO-1, which allow the programs to integrate and and allow project based, collaborative learning, are important as well. There are other low-cost laptops that don't do all the wonderful things the XO does that would work just as well for learning IT or computer skills. If that is all they are interested in, perhaps they should look elsewhere. Caryl (aka Grumpy Grannie) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] What do I want Big Time To Be?
Hi All, When I asked if SoaS was ready for Big Time, Martin replied, What do you mean? I'd recommend it but I don't know enough about what you want. So here is what I mean and want... I would like to be able to go into a room (or exhbit hall) filled with overworked, underpaid educators and while showing them Sugar on the XO, tell them they can run some of the same (and some even better) Activities on the equipment they already have at their schools... and that they can do it for free (free is good). I would like them to get really excited about being able to get something for their students that is not only sound educationally, but that they can afford because the download is free. Their only cost is their chosen storage media. I would like to be able to show them how it works on a MacBook (my machine) and on a PC (if someone would just tell me how to get one for very little $$$). I would like it to be stable software that runs on their choice of Live CD or USB stick. I would like to be able to give them links for downloading it and for getting other Activities. I would like to be able to give them links for very easy to follow instructions for downloading and using the software. And, I would like to be able to give them links to a place they can get help if they get stuck. I know some of these things exist already but, unless I have missed something, most of them don't. My next presentation to educators will be at the CUELA/LAUSD Tech Fair on November 14. How much of this is real already? How much is in the dim and distant future? Send links! Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Confusing Musings re: versions, updating downloading. Please Advise!
Hi Folks, In an effort to make sure the CUELA XO library machines are all ready to go with neat things on them for the Tech Fair November 14, I am playing with adding some more programs to the XOs. * A question... can extra programs be downloaded to a usb key and used on the XO to save XO memory space? If so, can the download be done on a MacBook? * Another really big question: Is SoaS ready for big time? I would love to show it as part of my hands-on presentation but, so far, all I have been able to do is run an older version in a Virtual Box on my MacBook. Novel, but not very Earth shaking. If you want me to just tell them that SoaS is coming down the pike and to wait for an announcement soon, fine. But it would be great to have more than that to offer. * I tried several times today to download the Read Activity, Version 76, Updated on October 8, 2009. I do have an older version (56?) that came with the 802 update and has probably been updated. Since it was suggested I have a recent version before trying the ebooks, I did want the most recent that will work with .82. I got the Failed to ConnectThe connection was refused when attempting to contact download.sugarlabs.org etc... * Now I realize it will not work with .82. I have to have .86. Can I run that on the XO-1? Is there an easy way to update it? If not, what is the most up-to-date version of Read that I can run with 802 (.82)? * I would like all of the machines at the hands-on session to be running the same software build. I will be reflashing about 20 machines next week. I would like to be able to do all of this from usb stick with minimal updating from what I install. If there is a newer version than 802 (.82), can you send a link that I can use in place of those in the No-Fail Update? (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/No-fail_update) I thought I would try and see if I could download a different program, so I am downloading FoodForce II which should work with .82. So far it seems to be working. Thanks Folks! Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Confusing Musings re: versions, updating downloading. Please Advise!
Hi Thanks James for the information. Of course I have more comments and questions! See below. Caryl Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:34:23 +1100 From: qu...@laptop.org To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] Confusing Musings re: versions, updating downloading. Please Advise! On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 02:59:06PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote: * A question... can extra programs be downloaded to a usb key and used on the XO to save XO memory space? If you mean the XO RAM memory (the temporary storage lost on reboot), no. A swap partition on an SD card might assist but so will closing activities before starting new ones. If you mean the XO NAND flash memory (the permanent storage kept on reboot), possibly ... but I think it requires a bit of fiddling at the time to remove high cost activities in order to make room to load them. I mean the XO NAND memory. I want to be able to load several extra Activities. Maybe the best solution is to remove the ones they probably won't be using. Still it would be nice to be able to make a custom USB for reflashing. I understand this has been done for some deployments. Are there some easy instructions for making one? Are you really short of memory? If so, which memory? Not yet... just thinking ahead. If so, can the download be done on a MacBook? Yes, provided the USB key is formatted with the conventional FAT filesystem. Mac OS X can reformat a device with a Mac specific filesystem and that would not be approprate. Yes I have successfully done this with the entire 802, but would like to make a customized key. * I would like all of the machines at the hands-on session to be running the same software build. I will be reflashing about 20 machines next week. I would like to be able to do all of this from usb stick with minimal updating from what I install. [...] Reflashing 20 machines should take you no more than about 15 minutes ... Yes, I have done this several times. In fact, I co-wrote the No-Fail Update on the OLPC wiki. it takes one USB stick, the few minute delay as one unit is reflashed from the USB stick, then restart that machine only into OpenFirmware and use the NANDblasting feature to reflash the other 19 in only a few minutes. Reference: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Multicast_NAND_FLASH_Update I strongly suggest you try this method if you haven't already, as it has considerable efficiencies. It is also quite a lot of fun. This does look like a lot of fun! I'm not sure if I understand though. Can this be done just using the mesh or is a school server necessary? The instructions say the sending machine has to be unsecure. By this, do you mean with a developer key? Only one of my RoadShow machines has one. At least it did. Does it persist when the machine is reflashed? I haven't used it (the key) in a very long time. If you need to add activities then take note of the special trick of clearing the identity from Terminal before using an XO as the transmitter. That Wiki page has more detail. -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] OS Internet Books for High School
Hi All, While we have been worrying about free textbooks on the internet for younger children, the 1000 pound gorilla in the high school text book room, California, has made it really start to happen for older students. Here is an excerpt from Chris Bigenho's blog that has some interesting links (yes, we are related). XOs as book readers are entirely appropriate for grades 9-12. Are they compatible with these books?... don't know yet. I haven't had time to try it out. Caryl __ CK-12 Foundation- (Open Source Publishing) The CK-12 Foundation is a not-profit organization that is working to reduce the cost of text books through the use of Open content and web collaboration. This is just one more step toward the new publishing model that textbook companies need to fear and fear it they do. http://about.ck12.org/ CLRN This is an interesting follow-up of the post above. This is the California Learning Resource Network where they had a Free digital textbook initiative with review and results. Here you can see the entire report or look at the summary findings. Notice how many open content books made the list in competition with the big publishers. Yes, publishers need to look at the future as written on these pages. http://www.clrn.org/fdti/ From Chris Bigenho's blog at: http://bigenhoc.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/diigo-university-day-1/#comments ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: [support-gang] OS Internet Books for High School
Hi Again, OK, Now I notice they have books for younger children as well, including Algebra I (which CA did not require or review). It looks pretty good on my Mac. It can be read without downloading, but requires Flash. There is a PDF version that can be downloaded and used off line. That makes sense for the XO. Which Activity would be best to download to do this? It looks like Read might be best since it will read PDF files, but will it read multi-page documents like a book? Should I try something else? I could just experiment around, but that would be re-inventing the wheel if someone knows the answer. Thanks, Caryl From: cbige...@hotmail.com To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:40:04 -0700 Subject: [support-gang] OS Internet Books for High School Hi All, While we have been worrying about free textbooks on the internet for younger children, the 1000 pound gorilla in the high school text book room, California, has made it really start to happen for older students. Here is an excerpt from Chris Bigenho's blog that has some interesting links (yes, we are related). XOs as book readers are entirely appropriate for grades 9-12. Are they compatible with these books?... don't know yet. I haven't had time to try it out. Caryl __ CK-12 Foundation- (Open Source Publishing) The CK-12 Foundation is a not-profit organization that is working to reduce the cost of text books through the use of Open content and web collaboration. This is just one more step toward the new publishing model that textbook companies need to fear and fear it they do. http://about.ck12.org/ CLRN This is an interesting follow-up of the post above. This is the California Learning Resource Network where they had a Free digital textbook initiative with review and results. Here you can see the entire report or look at the summary findings. Notice how many open content books made the list in competition with the big publishers. Yes, publishers need to look at the future as written on these pages. http://www.clrn.org/fdti/ From Chris Bigenho's blog at: http://bigenhoc.wordpress.com/2009/08/31/diigo-university-day-1/#comments ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Xconomy: Internet Archive Opens 1.6 Million E-Books to Kids with OLPC Laptops
Hi... I was also wondering what the big deal is here. A while back I took time to search for a good Algebra text in their library of ebooks. I was underwhelmed. You would think that algebra is algebra and any book is better than none. I was very disappointed with what they had. What was good enough for my dad when he was in high school (1920) isn't going to work with today's student. What we need as some really good open-source ebooks written by current educators. But it ain't goin' to happen. Educators have to eat too. Caryl (Retired educator... anyone want to collaborate on a FLOSS manual for beginning algebra?) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Photos From Audubon MS Project
Hi Gerald and all, I have invited the director of the project at Audubon MS to bring 3-4 of the students to assist Jamaal and I in having a hands-on session for teachers with the XOs at a CUELA/LAUSD tech fair. It happens in about 3 weeks. If they come it will be great for them, and the teachers they will be assisting. I'll take pictures and report. Caryl Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:04:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Photos From Audubon MS Project From: gerald.ard...@gmail.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: support-g...@laptop.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Caryl, Thanks for sharing about this project/program. What is most interesting (and exciting) to me is that there are trends that I see in our (5th grade) program and yours. Every time that the students get to become owners of the devices and/or software, whether by re-imaging the machines or downloading new activities or showing another student how to do something, the learning environment changes. This is particularly interesting because I also see my 5th graders owning the devices as well right from the start. They seem to relate to them like they do their cell phone or iPod, and completely unlike how I see them interact with typical computers. We should stay in touch as things develop. Best, Gerald On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Gerald, and anyone else who wants to know about the project at Audubon MS. Things have changed a lot with the FAMLI after school program since they started their Contributors Program project. They lost a lot of their funding and went from 50+ students down to 20+. They have 10 XOs. The students are in grades 6-8 (ages 11-14) with a couple of older students from a nearby high school. The program runs after school from 3 pm to 6 pm on school days and they also meet on Saturdays. They divide their time between activities that are physically active to others that are quiet such as tutoring and using the XOs. They are also learning music and dance that comes from the Black American culture. Their director, Torre Reese is wonderful and the students love him! The original idea was that, as much as possible, the students would be in charge of the project. They have some very bright youngsters in the group and this seems to be working out... under adult supervision. So far there hasn't been a lot of training. I visited them for the first time last week (when I took the pictures), and found they had all mastered using the mesh and chatting with the mesh. At that time they didn't have internet for the XOs (now they do), but someone managed to download SimCity using a router from some local business! The XOs haven't gone home with the students yet. Security is a huge concern. This is south-central Los Angeles. We are discussing letting the students check out the machines when a parent is picking them up and having the parent sign it out. The students will help work out these details. With the help of a great IT professional, Ron Goodall, they now have internet. Their hope is to make contact with students their age in other countries via the internet. Meanwhile, they have given their XOs names of different countries just for fun. When I arrived, I discovered they were still running build 767 which came with their machines. I happened to have a usb key with 802 on it so I showed one of the students (who had been asking all sorts of knowledgeable questions about the Sugar OS) how to do it and left the usb key with him. Torre reported that the next day he showed the other students how to do it and they reflashed all of the machines. Now that they have updated their software, they will be able to try a lot of other things. I have asked that they do a project for us, evaluating the various Activities and suggesting ways that they could be used for learning. They have agreed and we will set that up when I get back from Hawaii. If anyone knows of other secure email sites for children, in addition to ePals, please let me know. EPals requires a teacher to register and monitor the accounts. It may be difficult to find an overworked, underpaid LAUSD teacher who has the time and is willing to do this. If you have other questions... just ask! Caryl Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:09:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Photos From Audubon MS Project From: gerald.ard...@gmail.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Caryl, Thanks for sharing these pictures. Can you share more details about this project, like: How many XOs are there? How many students? Which grades/age groups? How were the teachers/students trained? We should probably talk. Gerald On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi... Here is a link to the photos from the Audubon Middle School Contributors Project. This is an after school program in south central LA that Jamaal volunteers with. I mentor
[IAEP] Some Questions About Setting Up A School Server
Hi All... These questions are from Jim Stockford j...@well.com who is working with Shameer on a Contributors Program project. Please be sure to send me a copy of any answers! Thanks. Caryl _ Jim needs help setting up a school server. For starters, I referred him to: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_server He has the following questions. what's missing at least in part is network topology and possibilities, especially on the LAN side of the xs. for example, assuming eth0 for WAN (internet access) and eth1 for LAN (xo) access, can we connect eth1 to a switch and connect an access point to the switch (this lets us connect xo boxes either by wifi or by wire). as a different example, how to configure one of those cheap little home routers so we can connect eth1 to the router and then connect xo boxes either to the built-in switch on the router or the built-in access point on the router to allow the xs dhcp server to respond to xo requests for ip addresses (i.e. inhibit the router's dhcp server)? these are not really xo and xs considerations except that these are some of the stumbling blocks we've encountered in our so-far-failed attempt to get the school server working with the xo boxes. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Photos From Audubon MS Project
Hi... Here is a link to the photos from the Audubon Middle School Contributors Project. This is an after school program in south central LA that Jamaal volunteers with. I mentor their Contributors Program project: http://tiny.cc/kzXwn Enjoy! Caryl P.S. I got an email from them today... they now have internet access. ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Photos From Audubon MS Project
Hello Gerald, and anyone else who wants to know about the project at Audubon MS. Things have changed a lot with the FAMLI after school program since they started their Contributors Program project. They lost a lot of their funding and went from 50+ students down to 20+. They have 10 XOs. The students are in grades 6-8 (ages 11-14) with a couple of older students from a nearby high school. The program runs after school from 3 pm to 6 pm on school days and they also meet on Saturdays. They divide their time between activities that are physically active to others that are quiet such as tutoring and using the XOs. They are also learning music and dance that comes from the Black American culture. Their director, Torre Reese is wonderful and the students love him! The original idea was that, as much as possible, the students would be in charge of the project. They have some very bright youngsters in the group and this seems to be working out... under adult supervision. So far there hasn't been a lot of training. I visited them for the first time last week (when I took the pictures), and found they had all mastered using the mesh and chatting with the mesh. At that time they didn't have internet for the XOs (now they do), but someone managed to download SimCity using a router from some local business! The XOs haven't gone home with the students yet. Security is a huge concern. This is south-central Los Angeles. We are discussing letting the students check out the machines when a parent is picking them up and having the parent sign it out. The students will help work out these details. With the help of a great IT professional, Ron Goodall, they now have internet. Their hope is to make contact with students their age in other countries via the internet. Meanwhile, they have given their XOs names of different countries just for fun. When I arrived, I discovered they were still running build 767 which came with their machines. I happened to have a usb key with 802 on it so I showed one of the students (who had been asking all sorts of knowledgeable questions about the Sugar OS) how to do it and left the usb key with him. Torre reported that the next day he showed the other students how to do it and they reflashed all of the machines. Now that they have updated their software, they will be able to try a lot of other things. I have asked that they do a project for us, evaluating the various Activities and suggesting ways that they could be used for learning. They have agreed and we will set that up when I get back from Hawaii. If anyone knows of other secure email sites for children, in addition to ePals, please let me know. EPals requires a teacher to register and monitor the accounts. It may be difficult to find an overworked, underpaid LAUSD teacher who has the time and is willing to do this. If you have other questions... just ask! Caryl Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:09:01 -0400 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Photos From Audubon MS Project From: gerald.ard...@gmail.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Caryl, Thanks for sharing these pictures. Can you share more details about this project, like: How many XOs are there? How many students? Which grades/age groups? How were the teachers/students trained? We should probably talk. Gerald On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:57 AM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi... Here is a link to the photos from the Audubon Middle School Contributors Project. This is an after school program in south central LA that Jamaal volunteers with. I mentor their Contributors Program project: http://tiny.cc/kzXwn Enjoy! Caryl P.S. I got an email from them today... they now have internet access. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Audubon MS Photos
Hi All, I have posted some photos from the Contributors Program project at the FAMLI (Foundation for Arts, Mentoring, Leadership and Innovation) after school program at Audubon Middle School in south central Los Angeles on my FaceBook account. If you have access, you might want to check them out! I am having problems with Flickr and general exporting for uploading to the wiki so it may be a few days before you will see them there. Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Lesson Plans for Sugar
BTW a similar discussion is going on on the Bolivia list... really worth looking at. Google translate can help. Caryl Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:31:24 -0500 From: yamap...@bolinux.org To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Lesson Plans for Sugar Caryl Bigenho wrote: If not plans, suggestions for using them to enhance learning in specific areas. For example both Memorize and Dominoes can be used for reviewing math facts. the volunteers of the Repair Center in La PAz Bolivia have made a Memorize version that has Aymara words in sound as well as script, to match to a picture Now, that is exactly what I meant! A huge list of ideas could be made for Memorize. Kids love the game and teachers can easily customize it for their class and subject area. Maybe a short guide to customizing along with a list of topics it could be used for, inviting teachers to add ideas. BTW I like the Tiger Swallowtail myself. Some music lover could make a pun that his is Madame. Rats! I should have thought of that. I guess I was distracted by the Blue Morpho in the mix of photos ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] The Youngest Headmaster In The World
Hi All... From BBC news tonight. Unbelievable, wonderful, inspiring story. Don't miss it. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8299780.stm Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Grannie Needs Help!
Hi All, I need to help the Audubon Middle School project get their 10 XOs on the net. Their school evidently has high speed internet, but it is all by ethernet cables... no wifi. So, I need info on how to set up something that will work with the XOs... a school server, I guess. I looked at the info on the OLPC wiki, but I don't understand enough about it to set it up or tell them how to do it. I assume they need a computer to do this. Do they have to install Linux before installing server software? Is there any place on the wiki that tells how to do this? Should they just find someone to fund a decicated school server? Where can they get one? What is the most reliable, inexpensive way for them to do this? Maybe just an inexpensive router? The school probably has some sort of firewall, what will they have to do to log on? Caroline... have you dealt with this at all? Is there a Grannie's Guide to doing this anywhere? Links appreciated! Caryl (aka Grannie) P.S. I haven't actually seen their set up, but will go visit them next week. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Short Survey for Educators
Hi... I had a little time this evening to work on a possible educator's survey. I tried to keep it short and simple so folks would actually answer the questions. If some of you could take a look at this, make comments, and add anything you think should be in there I would appreciate it. Please use a different font so I can easily spot your notes. Eventually, we can put this up as a resource on the wikis. I plan to use it for the first time next month at the CUELA/LAUSD Tech Fair. If anyone else wants to use it sooner that is fine too. We should have a wiki page to tabulate results too, I guess. Thanks, Caryl Short Educational Computer Use Survey 1) Your position: Administrator _ IT Coordinator __ Teacher ___ Librarian _ Counselor Aide ___ Other (specify)__ 2) School Level Elementary (specify grades) ___ Middle School (specify grades) ___ High School (specify grades) Other (specify) _ 3) Does your school have computers for student use? Yes go to # 4 No skip to #8 4) Where are the computers for student use located? (check all that apply) School Library _ Computer Lab Computer Carts Computers in classrooms __ 5) What kind of computers do you have for student use? (Check all that apply) PCs Older Mac G4s or Power Macs ___ Newer Intel Based Macs ___ Laptops (specify kind) __ 6) Where did your school get the computers? (check all that apply) Bought new __ Donated new _ Donated used _ 7) What software is used most by your students? ___ _ _. 8) Does your school have plans to buy new computers in the near future? Yes__ No 9) If you could have free access to any kind of software for your students, what kinds of learning activities would you want to have available for them? __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Optional (only if you wish) Your name: Email: School Name: ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: Live webinar: VirtualBox Web Console
Hi Folks, If you would like to learn more about Virtual Box from the engineers working on it, you might want to check out this webinar. Caryl Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 17:49:40 -0700 From: s...@communications2.sun.com Subject: Live webinar: VirtualBox Web Console To: cbige...@hotmail.com Template Live webinar: VirtualBox Web Console » Register Now! October VirtualBox Live Show The VirtualBox Web Console Dear Caryl Bigenho, The VirtualBox Web Console (VBoxWeb) is an open source project implementing an AJAX version of the popular VirtualBox user interface. As a modern web interface, it allows you to access and control remote VirtualBox instances. Join us for the next edition of VirtualBox Live, where you'll learn how to use VBoxWeb to: Browse your virtual machines and inspect their settings Start virtual machines in headless mode Pause/resume VMs Save the state of running VMs Terminate VMs (hard power off or ACPI)Remote control your VMs using the integrated RDP Web Control WHO: Andy Hall and Achim Hasenmueller, VirtualBox Engineering Director WHAT: VirtualBox Live Show WHEN: October 7, 2009, 8:00 am PDT / 11:00 am EDT / 15:00 UTC/GMT (The presentation will be approximately 45 minutes long, followed by QA.) WHERE: Simply access the web seminar from the comfort of your own home or office. WHY: If you want to save time, money and frustration, you'll want to join this webinar on the world's most popular open source virtualization software. Tune in, or miss out. Register now. If you have questions or feedback, please send them to virtualboxinquir...@sun.com. Thank you, Sun Microsystems, Inc. PS: If you can't join us live, make sure you catch the archive, which will be posted here within 24 hours of the show. Sun Microsystems, Inc. respects your privacy. You are receiving this email at cbige...@hotmail.com because of your registration activity related to VirtualBox. Privacy Policy | Trademarks | Update My Profile | Unsubscribe Please do not reply to this email. Instead, contact the editor. Sun Microsystems, Inc., 18 Network Circle, M/S: UMPK18-124, Attn. Global eMarketing, Menlo Park, CA 94025 USA © 2009 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] SOAS[DP] Educator's Opinion
Hello Folks, With all this discussion of naming conventions, we seem to be failing to consider our targeted end-users: classroom teachers. Most of them think Fedora is a hat. It could just as well be derby as far as they are concerned. I suggest we propose a name to apply to all Sugar distributions in every form. Then these could be labeled in a way that developers will know what the underlying software is and that educators can tell whether it will work on the machines they have. Choose a name. Get it registered. Add things like USB, SD, CD to indicate the intended carrier. Also add something that indicates what machines it will run on. Version numbers could be included too. All this could end up with a long name for each version, but it would tell everyone what it is in a way that they can understand. Such as (for example): Sugar4CD/PC/F11 (Sugar, version 4, made for liveCD, runs on PCs, Fedora11 based). Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SoaS] SOAS[DP] Educator's Opinion
I guess I'm nobody! I actually did choose my iPod by its model number...in fact, a model name and a capacity... Classic 80GB. I did the same with my Mac ...MacBook with a 120GB drive. I chose my software: Leopard (10.5.8). I run iLife 09 but have installed the older iMovie 06 because it is more like a professional editor. People do this sort of thing all the time. If a teacher goes to the Sugar Labs website and wants to download a version of SoaS that will run on her PC from a live CD, they should be able to easily pick the right one. If they have an older, PowerPC Mac, they are currently out of luck. Hopefully that will change, and when it does, the correct version will need to be labeled so that the end user can easily find it. Now, if you are thinking of going big time and selling versions of Sugar commercially, that might be a different matter. But I don't think that is what we are talking about... or did I miss something? Caryl Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 21:15:59 +0200 From: sdaly...@gmail.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [SoaS] [IAEP] SOAS[DP] Educator's Opinion I don't agree with this at all. Nobody chooses an iPod based on its model number. The best approach is for us to discuss with distros their Sugar plans so we can build Sugar use in an organized way. That includes names, which is a marketing issue. Sean On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Folks, With all this discussion of naming conventions, we seem to be failing to consider our targeted end-users: classroom teachers. Most of them think Fedora is a hat. It could just as well be derby as far as they are concerned. I suggest we propose a name to apply to all Sugar distributions in every form. Then these could be labeled in a way that developers will know what the underlying software is and that educators can tell whether it will work on the machines they have. Choose a name. Get it registered. Add things like USB, SD, CD to indicate the intended carrier. Also add something that indicates what machines it will run on. Version numbers could be included too. All this could end up with a long name for each version, but it would tell everyone what it is in a way that they can understand. Such as (for example): Sugar4CD/PC/F11 (Sugar, version 4, made for liveCD, runs on PCs, Fedora11 based). Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ SoaS mailing list s...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/soas ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SOAS[DP] Educator's Opinion
Yes! Roland, this is exactly what Apple does with their big cats. We have Tiger (10.4) running on a Powerbook that originally came with Jaguar (10.2). I skipped Panther (10.3). My MacBook came with Leopard (10.5). Now they have come out with Snow Leopard (10.6-I don't plan to switch... it has some problems). I think Apple will run out of big cats long before we would run out of sugar related things. Note that Apple still uses version numbers just as Ubuntu does, which Sugar Labs should also do. I like a system like this. It would help make the software a little less threatening to teachers, parents, and inexperienced children using it. Caryl From: rgesthui...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 12:11:50 +1000 Subject: Re: [IAEP] SOAS[DP] Educator's Opinion To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: s...@lists.sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org I must admit Caryl that I like the Ubuntu system that uses a mix of release version number / build number and generic names for distributions based on animals (hardy herron etc.) http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq It would be interesting for Sugar to do something similar, rotating every year or so between different 'sugar' eating animals or plants .. perhaps even sugar based molecules such as monosaccharides glucose, dextrose, fructose, levulose, galactose, xylose then ribose. If you run out of these, you can then switch to polysaccharides such as sucrose etc. Now there is enough for 10 or more years. :-) Nicely, glucose is a primary key to life on our planet and nicely fits the launch of the version for the OLPC X0-1 :-) Regards Roland 2009/9/30 Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com Hello Folks, With all this discussion of naming conventions, we seem to be failing to consider our targeted end-users: classroom teachers. Most of them think Fedora is a hat. It could just as well be derby as far as they are concerned. I suggest we propose a name to apply to all Sugar distributions in every form. Then these could be labeled in a way that developers will know what the underlying software is and that educators can tell whether it will work on the machines they have. Choose a name. Get it registered. Add things like USB, SD, CD to indicate the intended carrier. Also add something that indicates what machines it will run on. Version numbers could be included too. All this could end up with a long name for each version, but it would tell everyone what it is in a way that they can understand. Such as (for example): Sugar4CD/PC/F11 (Sugar, version 4, made for liveCD, runs on PCs, Fedora11 based). Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Roland Gesthuizen - ICT Coordinator - Westall Secondary College http://www.westallsc.vic.edu.au Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed it is the only thing that ever has. --Margaret Mead ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Which Language?
OK, the consensus is Python so far. Can he do that strictly on XOs? How does he package it to share as an Activity? Can he do it on a Mac or PC and then package it for Sugar? I think he would really like to do it all on the XO. Is this possible? How does it get from terminal mode to being a regular Activity? Thanks Caryl Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:52:33 +0300 From: le.wald...@gmail.com To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] Which Language? Hi, For Sure, Python. Easy to learn, Easy to read (What I think is one of it big's strenghts), Is being widely deployed on Web apps now. Another two languages would be Java (as python you can do anything on the high level with it, but it is a lot more complicated), and, of course, C/C++, that are also harder then python but are the main low level languages. For the beginning I think Python, and for more advanced classes Java and C/C++. -- Leon Waldman SysAdmin Linux - Arquiteto de Infra-Estrutura TI. On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:00 AM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi All, On Thursday, Ben wrote in the IAEP list: My feeling is that the most important thing we can do in this area is to make it easy to write Activities that are intrinsically cross-platform. To borrow a phrase, one way to do this is to choose languages, and interpreters, that are incapable of expressing platform dependencies. So I have a question for you folks. I am in discussion with a college CS prof who would like to teach beginning programming with XOs. He is interested in trying several different languages, but I am interested in pointing him toward the one that would result in the most universally usable Activities with the idea that his students would be able to write Activities as class projects that could then be widely distributed. It would be great if they would be, as Ben suggests, cross-platform. By that, I mean usable on the XO-1, XO-1.5, SoaS, live CD, etc. for PCs and Intel Macs. Of course my dream ideal is that they would also be able to be run on the old PowerPC Macs that are still widely used in the public schools, but that is probably too much too hope for. So...the question is, what should I tell him? Caryl (aka SweetXOGrannie) ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Which Language?
Hi All, On Thursday, Ben wrote in the IAEP list: My feeling is that the most important thing we can do in this area is to make it easy to write Activities that are intrinsically cross-platform. To borrow a phrase, one way to do this is to choose languages, and interpreters, that are incapable of expressing platform dependencies. So I have a question for you folks. I am in discussion with a college CS prof who would like to teach beginning programming with XOs. He is interested in trying several different languages, but I am interested in pointing him toward the one that would result in the most universally usable Activities with the idea that his students would be able to write Activities as class projects that could then be widely distributed. It would be great if they would be, as Ben suggests, cross-platform. By that, I mean usable on the XO-1, XO-1.5, SoaS, live CD, etc. for PCs and Intel Macs. Of course my dream ideal is that they would also be able to be run on the old PowerPC Macs that are still widely used in the public schools, but that is probably too much too hope for. So...the question is, what should I tell him? Caryl (aka SweetXOGrannie) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Out of the Office 09/19-09/27
Hi All, I will be heading to Glacier NP on Saturday a.m. for a week of hiking, canoeing and other outdoor pursuits. The Hotel/Lodge where we will be staying advertises that they have wifi, put last night I was reading their reviews on TripAdvisor... they were awful! Evidently, not only does the wifi often not work, but cell phone service is patchy and they often have power and water outages. In other words, I may be out of touch for most of the week. The GoingTo The Sun Road will close after Sunday, so we will have to drive it then if we want to (and we do). So, even if the cell phone works at the hotel, it definitely won't in the Park. So, I will not be able to participate in the conf call Sun and may not be back online much before the 27th. I will do as much with the sections I have been working on as I can tonight and tomorrow evenings, but I have to pack too. I'll let you all know if it is really that bad when I get back. We only had to pay $169 for the whole week because we used a bonus week from our timeshare. If you just go there, the rooms like the one we will be staying in are in the $300+ /night range. We never pay that kind of $$$ for a room. Maybe that is why the ratings are so bad? Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] SCaLE 8X 2/19-21 2010 CFP
Hi... This came to my husband Ed's email today... guess they assumed he was the techie in the family... wrong! Both OLPC and SugarLabs should have a big presence at this event. It has led us to some valuable contacts in the past 2 years. I plan to do a presentation on the Contributors Program and help set up and person (not man) a booth with XOs in the exhibit hall. Many attendees will already have their own XOs. We should have a big SoaS setup too... Imagine a huge hall filled with open source developers and companies that use open source or do things related to it. Techie heaven! If you want to present in the education track... it is called OSSIE (Open Source Software In Education) and is only on Friday. Not well attended though b/c teachers can't get the time off... too bad. When you sign up you will find other tracks as well. Pick the one that makes the most sense for your topic. The CFP follows. Hope to see many of you there! Caryl __ The Eighth Annual So Cal Linux Expo is coming! It will be February 19th-21st, 2010, and will again be at the Westin LAX. The Call for Papers for the conference is now open. Besides the regular conference tracks, SCALE 8x will include specialty tracks for both developers and beginners. If you'd like to speak at SCALE 8x, see http://socallinuxexpo.org to submit your presentation proposal. Mark your calendars – be in Los Angeles February 19-21st, 2010 for SCALE 8x! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] What Activity Is This?
Hi Gary, I doubt the file was downloaded. It was just a little noise and there was a photo like we get when we do the Audio recordings in Record. That screenshot got corrupted b/c I took the USB drive out too soon. I could try to get it again if no one can figure this out. Caryl Subject: Re: [IAEP] What Activity Is This? From: g...@garycmartin.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:45:06 +0100 CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@lists.laptop.org To: cbige...@hotmail.com Hi Caryl, On 14 Sep 2009, at 18:07, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi Folks, I'm just checking over the things left on the journals on the XO M- stock machines I lent to the Bozeman and Billings (MT) LUGS. Someone in Billings left this. What is it? The journal says it is Audio by Cracker (the name of the computer is Cracker because it has a small crack in the screen). What Activity is this? I haven't seen this screen before. The icon for the Activity does not appear in either the list or favorites view. I will attach it also. I tried a small audio recording in Record to see if this would come up. It did not. It's the default icon for a sound object, likely was something like a .ogg file downloaded via Browse. Regards, --Gary ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] [Grassroots-l] Class Acts shirt at last :)
Yea SJ! I'm glad someone is thinking about us! Thank you! Caryl Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 11:48:12 -0400 From: meta...@gmail.com To: h...@laptop.org CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] [Grassroots-l] Class Acts shirt at last :) Only 30 shirts, eh? You might want to add 12 Smalls :) There just *might* be some women or teens present. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Classroom 2.0 In an hour....
Hi All, If you have an hour to spare this morning, you might enjoy participating in this Classroom 2.0 online workshop which starts in just an hour, at noon Eastern: http://live.classroom20.com/ It will show how internet resources can be used to teach (really any subject you choose) thorugh Alternative Reality Gamin (ARG). You will also seen how the Elluminate tool can be used to teach, learn, or collaborate at a distance. Disclaimer: Yes, I am related to the presenter! Caryl P.S. If you miss the live session, there will probably be a recorded version posted on Classroom 2.0 sometime in the next week or so.___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Metawriting (Long, but please read!)
Hello Fellow Booksprinters. Yesterday as I was mentally finishing my Uruguay story for the BookSprint, while pulling weeds, I got to thinking about the writing process. I would like to share my thoughts with you. As some of you know, in addition to being a retired teacher and high school counselor, I also worked part time as a columnist and reporter for the local Ventura County Star, a part of the Scripps Howard chain. I have also had several travel articles published in magazines and travel sections of Sunday newspapers and wrote one of the chapters in Move Ons' book, 50 Ways To Love Your Country. Basically, I used two distinct methods of writing (and still do). As a reporter, I would be on a tight deadline, interviewing people onsite, scribbling an outline of the story on scratch paper, then cranking out what, usually, was a fairly interesting story. I always made sure I included the 5 W's and the H and followed the AP Stylebook to a T. Usually, I saved the lead paragraph for the last. Carefully crafting it to draw the reader in to what might otherwise be a rather ordinary story on an ordinary subject. After a quick read through by my favorite resident editor (my husband Ed), I would transmit it electronlcally to the newsroom. From there on it was out of my hands. Writing feature stories or a weekly human interest story was an entirely different matter. I like to compare it to having a baby. From concept(ion) to delivery, the process goes something like this: You still have to gather information and check the facts, but after that there is a period I like to call incubation. During this time you are running over the story almost all your waking hours when you may be doing other things. You play with it in your mind. You look for slants and angles. You discard some ideas and expand on others. You play with words you might choose to use. At night, you fall asleep thinking about it. When you wake up, it is still there in your thoughts. When the story is ready, you sit down at your computer, and it writes itself. This may happen at any time, even in the middle of the night. It is best not to rush the process. When it is finished, let it rest for 24 hours, then be your own editor. Print it out and have your favorite in-house editor read it too. Put the final polish on it, and it is ready to go. From then on, like a good parent, you have to let it go. Editors may need to cut it to make room for something like a picture or an ad (in a newspaper). You don't want to have the editor pad it, so it is better to write a little long so it can be cut to fit. Sometimes what editors do to your story will make you want to cry, or at least cringe. I still can hear my Irish great-grandmother whirling in her grave when an editor changed my St. Paddy's Day feature to a St. Patty's Day story. Criminal! Hint to editors...check with your writers before you do anything drastic or your publication may lose some of its creditability! So why am I telling you all this now? It is just 9 days to the beginning of our Booksprint. There are lots of unclaimed feature story topics listed on our wiki without owners. You may have another compelling story you would like to tell that is not listed. (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Class_Acts/Table_of_contents) Don't wait until the BookSprint to get started! Claim your story, do your background research, get your concept, and start incubating! If the story is ready before September 6, so be it! Sit down and let it write itself. Oh, and if you happen to have an old copy of Strunk and White's little book, The Elements of Style, laying around give it a quick read through. Your readers will love you for it! Have fun incubating! Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: [Sur] soas, ult versión (So aS, Latest version?)
Translated from the olpc-sur list. Please respond in Spanish if possible: Hi Everyone...What is the latest version of soas to download?? because there are various pages with different links for strawberry, for soas2xxx many thankscheers.. Original message Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 19:40:55 -0300 From: pbruccol...@adinet.com.uy To: olpc-...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Sur] soas, ult versión Hola a todos.. cuál es la última versión de soas para bajar?? porque hay varias páginas con diferentes enlaces, que la strawberry, que la soas2xxx muchas gracias cha ___ Lista olpc-Sur olpc-...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Looking for very old hardware
Hello All, I asked this question about a year ago, but would like to ask it again. I have been given some educational math software for elementary school written in Basic (or,maybe, machine language) for the old Apple ii series. I also have a copy of an excellent program for Algebra I, also for the Apple ii series. Both of these are teacher tested and approved. About 2-3 years ago I gave away my old Apple iie along with the dual disk drive, monitor, and printer. I have looked on ebay and there are some for sale there for very low prices plus a high price for shipping. Of course, they all claim they work, but have no guarantees. I would like very much to be able to put these old 5 1/2 floppies in, boot them up and print out the code so some enterprising Python programmer could convert them for Sugar. I'm not even sure the disks will still work. They are probably 20+ years old. Does anyone reading this list have access to a working Apple ii system with monitor and printer? If so, I could send the disks to them and they could do the print out of the code. These are excellent, public domain programs (one is from the old softsawap we used to have in California. I have one of the disks here in MT. The other is at my home in CA. Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Activities for SoaS?
Hi All... Dumb question: Can all of the Activities listed at: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/recommended be added to the SoaS usb stick? (Not all at once, just a chosen few!) What is the maximum recommended usb stick capacity? I have a client over on the OLPC RT queue who wants to know (so do I). So far my adventures with SoaS on my MacBook have been Adventures in Breaking. But we can discuss that later. Right now, I just need the info for this client. Thanks! Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?
Hi... This didn't seem to go through, so I will resend. I would like to add another question...do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with SoaS? For example, what works with Measure? Can you use the temperature probe? Does the oscilloscope work? Is it possible to use a camera with Record? I did get the microphone on my MacBook to work with Record...the level was really low though, I could barely hear it. From: cbige...@hotmail.com To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Activities for SoaS? Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:42:44 -0700 Hi All... Dumb question: Can all of the Activities listed at: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/recommended be added to the SoaS usb stick? (Not all at once, just a chosen few!) What is the maximum recommended usb stick capacity? I have a client over on the OLPC RT queue who wants to know (so do I). So far my adventures with SoaS on my MacBook have been Adventures in Breaking. But we can discuss that later. Right now, I just need the info for this client. Thanks! Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?
Hi... This didn't seem to go through, so I will resend. I would like to add another question...do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with SoaS? For example, what works with Measure? Can you use the temperature probe? Does the oscilloscope work? Is it possible to use a camera with Record? I did get the microphone on my MacBook to work with Record...the level was really low though, I could barely hear it. From: cbige...@hotmail.com To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Activities for SoaS? Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 13:42:44 -0700 Hi All... Dumb question: Can all of the Activities listed at: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/recommended be added to the SoaS usb stick? (Not all at once, just a chosen few!) What is the maximum recommended usb stick capacity? I have a client over on the OLPC RT queue who wants to know (so do I). So far my adventures with SoaS on my MacBook have been Adventures in Breaking. But we can discuss that later. Right now, I just need the info for this client. Thanks! Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Ed Tech Symposium Live Blog Today, Tues. and Wed.
Hi All, Chris Bigenho is live blogging the sessions at the Integrated Technology Symposium at the Center for Innovative Teaching at the Urban School of San Francisco (a private secondary school that is 1 to 1 i.e. a laptop school). The afternoon session will start at 2:15 pm PDT. It is going to be a panel discussion of the Realities of Teaching in a Laptop School. That could have some interesting insights for us! Here is the general site, links to the various sessions are listed part way down the page. The sessions are archived and can be accessed later. http://citbigenhoc.wordpress.com/live-blogging-information/ Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: VirtualBox Webinar: What's New in 3.0
Hi All, If you didn't get this email, you might be interested in registering for Sun Microsyatems webinar about VirtualBox next Wednesday morning. VirtualBox is one way to run Sugar on a MacBook. I haven't tried it on a PowerMac yet. It might work there too. Caryl Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 08:37:56 -0700 From: eng...@mail.communications.sun.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com Subject: VirtualBox Webinar: What's New in 3.0 VirtualBox webinar: Learn what's new in 3.0. » Register Now August VirtualBox Live Show What's New in 3.0 Dear Sun Community Member: We've just launched the latest, greatest version of VirtualBox and can't wait to share it with you at our next VirtualBox Live show. Learn all about the great new features in VirtualBox 3.0 including: - SMP or multiple virtual CPUs - Direct3D and OpenGL graphics acceleration - the new python shell Also in the show, we'll introduce an exciting new community project, the VirtualBox Web Console. What: VirtualBox Live Show When: August 5, 2009, 8:00 am PDT / 11:00 am EDT / 15:00 UTC/GMT Where: Simply access the web seminar from the comfort of your own home or office. Who Andy Hall VirtualBox Product Manager and the Team Why: If you want to save time, money and frustration, you'll want to join this webinar on the world's most popular open source virtualization software. Tune In or Miss Out. Register Now! If you have any questions or feedback, please send a message to virtualboxinquir...@sun.com. Thank you, Sun Microsystems, Inc. PS: If you can't join us live, make sure you catch the archive, which will be posted here within 24 hours of the show. Sun Microsystems, Inc. respects your privacy. You are receiving this email at cbige...@hotmail.com because of your registration activity related to Sun VirtualBox. Privacy Policy | Trademarks | Manage Subscriptions | Update My Profile | Unsubscribe Please do not reply to this email. Instead, contact the editor. Sun Microsystems, Inc., 18 Network Circle, M/S: UMPK18-124, Attn: Global eMarketing, Menlo Park, CA 94025 USA © 2009 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Back to school with XOs or SoaS?
Hi... My neice is a TV producer for a local station in Florida. She is looking for interesting back-to-school articles they might be able to follow-up with. Anything out there that anyone knows about that talks about the XO or SoaS? Must be in the USA. Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Resources in Spanish for the XO and Sugar including Teacher Workshops
Hello Nancie, Welcome to OLPC! Here is are links to the teachers' manuals from Peru. They are in Spanish, but excellent. It tells how to do almost everything you would want to do. There are 3 parts totalling over 100 pages. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sur#Per.C3.BA They also have an excellent web site with a lot of links to interesting things: http://www.perueduca.edu.pe/web/visitante/inicio Mexico also has a lot of things on the web. Some of their screen shots may be from older versions of Sugar, but their manuals are excellent. http://www.mochiladigitaltelmex.com.mx/olpc/index.php/Herramientas_pedagógicas They have also done some excellent training sessions. This link will take you to the page with links to their workshop lesson plans, participant guides, and a short presentation. http://www.mochiladigitaltelmex.com.mx/olpc/index.php/Talleres_Mochila_Digital_Telmex They deal with far more than how to use the XO. There is a lot of other important information too. Probably the 2nd one is the most important as it deals with constructionism and collaborative learning. Unfortunately, they are all in Spanish. Here is a suggestion...find a friend who is fluent in Spanish and spend several hours perusing these teacher workshop resources. Take copious notes. Then write your own workshop lesson plan. Of course, your most useful resource in English will be the FLOSS manuals at: http://en.flossmanuals.net/ The ones for OLPC are on the right-hand column. I hope you will be able to use some of these resources in your project. We really need someone to dedicate some time to get them translated into other languages. Caryl Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:36:37 -0400 Subject: Hi from Nancie From: nanciesev...@gmail.com To: ca...@laptop.org Hi Caryl, It is nice to meet you:). Thank you for sharing. Nancie Severs Hanover, NH -- This email came from my XO computer from the One Laptop Per Child project. Please check out One Laptop Per Child at www.laptop.org/en/ and help make the world a better place! Nancie ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: On Classroom 2.0: Saturday's LIVE Show - Telling Stories with Digital Threads with Special Guest Chris Bigenho
Hi... Here is an official announcement of an education session on Classroom 2.0 that some of you might want to join in. It is tomorrow (Saturday) morning. Caryl Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:16:50 + From: m...@classroom20.com To: ca...@laptop.org Subject: On Classroom 2.0: Saturday's LIVE Show - Telling Stories with Digital Threads with Special Guest Chris Bigenho A message to all members of Classroom 2.0 Date: Sat., July 25, 2009 Time: 9:00am Pacific/10:00am Mountain/11:00am Central/12:00pm Eastern Location: in Elluminate at http://tinyurl.com/cr20live (links to other time zones and meeting room can be found at http://live.classroom20.com/.) This Saturday, July 25th Kim Caise and Lorna Costantini will be hosting another Classroom 2.0 LIVE show. As an extension to the Classroom 2.0 community, Classroom 2.0 LIVE shows are opportunities to gather with other educators in real-time events, complete with audio, chat, desktop sharing, and sometimes even video. A Google calendar of shows is available at http://live.classroom20.com/calendar.html. If you haven't used Elluminate before, we encourage you to view this tutorial to prepare for the Elluminate session: Elluminate tutorial video. The topic this Saturday is: Telling Stories with Digital Threads with special guest Chris Bigenho. Please join us as Chris shares how he uses digital story threads in the classroom. Chris will share an amazingly emotional and real digital story of the Iranian unrest surrounding the recent elections using Twitter and other tools. More information and session details are at http://live.classroom20.com. If you've never participated in a live webinar, don't be afraid to come and observe. 'Dip your toes in’ the conversations until you feel comfortable enough to jump into the conversations with both feet! We want to encourage experienced Web 2.0 users to join us by contributing and extending the conversation by sharing real-life examples and tips/suggestions. On the Classroom 2.0 LIVE! site (http://live.classroom20.com) you'll find the recordings for our recent Elluminate: Special Features for the Classroom show with special guest Tammy Moore. Click on the Archive tab to view recordings. Special thanks to our sponsor, Elluminate, for providing the forum that allows us to do this! Visit Classroom 2.0 at: http://www.classroom20.com -- To control which emails you receive on Classroom 2.0, go to: http://www.classroom20.com/profiles/profile/emailSettings ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Notes from GPA 7-21
Hi Caroline and All, This is great stuff! I hope you are working up a very detailed, Grannie's Guide-No Fail style set of teachers' instructions so that other (non-techie) teachers who don't have you there to help can replicate the things you are doing with the students. I love the way you document everything with the TODOs included. Excellent! The note from Laura Johns is very encouraging. I guess it dispels 2 myths: 1) There aren't many Power PC Macs left in the schools 2) SoaS won't run on a Power PC Mac. It looks like we finally may have someone who can make it work. Wouldn't it be great if it were ready to go by the CUE Conference in March 2010? They have asked me to apply to do another 1 hour session at CUE 2010. I have to apply by early September. It is really hard to come up with something flexible and generic enough to adjust to match the rapidly changing and developing things going on with OLPC and SugarLabs. I am open to suggestions. Caryl P.S. For the branded USB sticks...is the type you are ordering retractable? Does it have a good loop to attach to a keychain or lanyard? If so, count me in for 10. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: OLPC Projects/VideoEditing and Video Edit
Hi All, Here is a great opportunity for someone to pick up where Robert left off and contribute something really useful, fun, educational, practical, and wanted for the XO and SoaS. Robert is willing to advise and help anyone who wants to pick up this project to get a Video Editing Activity into Sugar. See details in our correspondence below. Chao! Caryl Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:43:20 -0400 Subject: Re: OLPC Projects/VideoEditing and Video Edit From: rm...@cornell.edu To: cbige...@hotmail.com Hello Caryl, My work on the project has stalled. When I left off last year, a gstreamer glitch was causing OGGs from the XO camera to freeze the system, which compounded with performance issues stalled the project. There's a good chance that that particular problem has been resolved, and I too would love to see a video editing activity on the XO. I'm not sure how much work I'll be able to do, but I am definitely available to advise and help out how I can. If a volunteer is interested, I would imagine a good deal could be done in porting an existing free video editor (pitivi is what I tried due to the similarities in its toolkit and that being used for sugar) to the XO interface. Keep in touch, Robert On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello, I am a member of the OLPC Support Gang and am mentoring a project that wants to use simple video editing on the XO as a part of their activities. I see that both of you were working on this last year, but that nothing has been posted on the wiki about it for several months. What is the current status of your projects? Is anyone working on them now? What was the state of the projects when you last worked on them? Is it something that one of our volunteer programmers could bring to completion? There is really a lot of interest in having a simple video editing Activity for the XO and Sugar. At this point, folks are just suggesting a lot of substitutes such as Turtle Art and Google Docs presentations. But, of course, what you folks were working on would be far better. Let me know what is happening! Thanks, Caryl Bigenho, OLPC Support Volunteer ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] (engineering) capacity building---with BITESIZE *challenges* for volunteers :)
Hi Adam, Tomeu, Caroline, SGers and IAEP folks, Good stuff... you know the old saying, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. For those of you who aren't teacher types (yet), here are some things you might be interested in... Ah yes, Caroline mentioned ZPD. Here is a link to more about ZPD, done about 3 years ago by a certain relative of mine. It flies by pretty fast so you have to hit pause for each caption unless you are a speed reader. http://www.dlp4success.com/portfolios/chris/BitsBytes/mar-apr_06/theory_mar06.htm If you would like to see what he is working on now, mostly ARG (alternative or alternate reality gaming), check out his Classroom 2.0 session this Saturday morning at : http://bigenhoc.wordpress.com/telling-stories-through-digital-threads/ Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] reviving XO-1 OS builds, as the XO-1.5 release approaches...
Hi All, Last month there was a thread about SoaS for the XO-1 on the IAEP list. I haven't tried it yet, but it may turn out to be an answer to the problem of getting the XO-1 updated with the latest stuff from SugarLabs. If you missed the discussion, you can read the thread in the IAEP Archives. It is lengthy, but seems to start here: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-June/006465.html There were a lot of issues and it evidently pretty well wipes out everything on the XO. That is why I always email anything I really want to keep to myself and let Hotmail save it for me. This seems like something worth pursuing. If deployments could update to the new software for the mere cost of USB sticks it would be wonderful. Much better than the Mac folks left with Power PCs that won't run a lot of the new stuff that only the newer Intel Macs will run. I might have time to try it now that the grandkids have left. It has been a very busy 2 weeks! Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] An Opportunity to bring vital content to the Sugar/XO world - Needs technical help.
Hi Caroline, I agree that content is something we desperately need for Sugar and the XO. But, I don't quite understand your proposal. Is Innovations For Learning offering us their software for free to adapt? If so, what language is it in? Is the source code available? Or, is this something you think our volunteer programmers should try to reverse-engineer and create for Sugar and the XO? Caryl Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:27:28 -0400 From: carol...@solutiongrove.com To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; server-de...@lists.laptop.org; support-g...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [support-gang] An Opportunity to bring vital content to the Sugar/XO world - Needs technical help. We have an opportunity to bring a program of K-2 English Reading and Math content to our Sugar users for free. http://www.innovationsforlearning.org/software_demo.php Ignore the teachermate hardware and the $100 a machine price tag. The concept is we make this available for Sugar for free. So if you have XOs or a machines you can use with Sugar on a Stick, you can use it for free. If you watch the Classroom management video you'll see they have aligned it to major Basal Curriculum programs or it can be used without. It can differentiate instruction for groups and students. This is vital functionality. We need to port this to the Sugar world, probably by putting it on the XS, maybe as a module in Moodle. Tomeu has done some work on making the activities work in Sugar, but I don't think anyone has looked at how we enable classroom management. Why I think this is important: When I listen to feedback from the deployments, they all talk about the need for content. When I see for myself what its like to use Sugar in a school, I think we need an on-ramp for teachers. This program would be an easy way to get the teachers to start using Sugar and computers without going very far outside of what they already know. Its aligned with the major curriculum programs they are already using. My belief is if they take the first step, and use Sugar, they and their students will explore further. Too much technology sits in the classroom closet. This seems like it would be used by lots of teachers, not just the most technological ones. This could be a model for other nonprofits for how to use Sugar to distribute content they have created for our age level.It would be an excellent selling point for teachers trying to bring Sugar into their schools. Please help us find someone (or a team) who has time and skills to tackle the technical challenge of porting/recreating the classroom management component. Thanks! Caroline -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: Long article on Sugar on a Stick
Hi All, The president of the Bozeman LUG sent me this email today. The link is to an article that will be available to the general public next week but he has early access as a subscriber. He said it would be OK to forward it on to you folks. Some interesting observations from an outsider. Enjoy! Caryl Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:30:45 -0500 From: dow...@montanalinux.org To: disc...@bozemanlug.org; billings...@billingslug.org; cbige...@hotmail.com Subject: Long article on Sugar on a Stick Greetings, Linux Weekly News published an article today on Sugar on a Stick. Right now it is subscribers only (hence the subscriber link I include) but it'll be free next week: Sugar on a Stick Brings Sugar to a Wider Audience http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/340546/0cc7e094a0d689a9/ TYL, -- Scott Dowdle 704 Church Street Belgrade, MT 59714 (406)388-0827 [home] (406)994-3931 [work] ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Thanks All! RE: [support-gang] Problems Saving in Scratch
Hi All, I tried Brian's simple solution and it works. You retrieve the file by clicking Open and more or less reversing the save process. I will further explore all the other stuff you folks sent, but tonight we are busy packing lunches and charging cameras, etc to get ready for 5-hour Ranger-led hike with the Grandkids in Yellowstone Park tomorrow morning. Thanks to all of you for your kind responses and for taking time on this holiday weekend to answer my question. I really appreciate it. Caryl From: bcjor...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 13:19:46 +0200 To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; test...@lists.laptop.org; walter.ben...@gmail.com; support-g...@laptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] [IAEP] Problems Saving in Scratch You can save projects in scratch by putting them in a certain folder. (1) Click save (2) When the save dialog comes up, click the Desktop button on the left. (3) Type the name of your project, and click OK The Desktop shortcut goes to /home/olpc/isolation/1/uid_to_home_dir/1/data, which I guess you can save to from within Scratch. Screenshot of dialog after clicking Desktop (and revealing the path): http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~bjordan/Picture%2038.png Brian On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Ton van Overbeektvoverb...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Caryl Bigenhocbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Walter and All, I tried your suggestion and the Terminal returned(blue but not a link): /home/olpc/Activities/Scratch.activity I went back into Scratch and it still failed to Save. I assumed the l characters were lowercase Ls, after trying upper case Is and getting a command not found. I have not tried 1s. I also assumed the tilde is the one just to the left of the 1 key. Any idea what is happening? Thanks, Caryl Walter meant ls -ld ... (lowercase L, lowercase S, space, minus sign,lowercase L, lowercase D). This should show who is the owner of the /home/olpc/Activities/Scratch.activity directory. If is is the wrong owner, it explains your problems with saving Scratch projects. HTH Ton van Overbeek ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Problems Saving in Scratch
Hi, Two grandkids playing with Scratch in build 802. Both have received this message when trying to save their projects: Save failed:Folder may be locked or read-only Is this a bug or are they doing something wrong? It happens both with a simple Save and a Save As I checked the Journals. One shows 535 MB free, the other 545 MB free. Thanks, Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Measure Log?
Hi... One of our Contributors Program clients is trying to interface a sensor with the Measure Activity. He says he has updated his software which probably means he is using V.21. He wants to be able to record and save the results of his input. We have both looked at v.21 and at the screenshots on the wiki. They are totally different. The Log tab is missing from v.21. How does he record, save, and export his results in the new version? Thanks, Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Alternate Characters
Hi Walter and All... M-stock sort of stands for mangled machine! This includes XOs with keys ripped off, cracked screens, screens that are half-black and that sort of thing. Some of us tinkerers on the support-gang got some of these to see what we could do with them. I expect to get 8 working XO-1s from the 10 I received. These will be used as a traveling lending library to go with my Roadshow In A Box. Six are currently lent out, one in CA and 5 in MT. Caryl Remember the 3-Rs! Reduce, Reuse, and Recycle! Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:33:02 -0400 Subject: Re: [IAEP] Alternate Characters From: walter.ben...@gmail.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com CC: support-g...@lists.laptop.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Caryl Bigenhocbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I am working on getting the M-stock machines I received working so that I can check them out to folks when I do my Roadshows. I checked out one to my Chinese teacher in CA. I wanted her 9-yr-old daughter to try it, but her 3-yr-old son is monopolizing it and probably destroying it too :-(. Five more went to folks who came to my presentation at the Bozeman MT LUG last week. I could have checked out more, but so far that is all I have working at this time. One I still have to fix has a strange problem. It seems simple, but I don't know what to try. I have already reflashed the machine and updated the software to 802. It will only write in the alternate characters shown on some of the keys (like the ñ). Could it be that the : alt gr key is stuck? Is there an easy fix for this one? I have 2 XOs with screens that are gone (like 1/2 black) that I could use for parts if I need to, but I was wondering if anyone knew of an easier way than swapping the keyboard. Thanks, Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep I am not sure what an M-stock machine is, but it does sound to me like a physical keyboard problem. Changing the keyboard is not the easiest repair on an OLPC XO, but it is doable. Likely if you just ease back a bit on the pressure of the plastic shell on the keyboard, the problem will resolve. There are instructions somewhere on the OLPC wiki. Good luck. -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Alternate Characters
Hi, I am working on getting the M-stock machines I received working so that I can check them out to folks when I do my Roadshows. I checked out one to my Chinese teacher in CA. I wanted her 9-yr-old daughter to try it, but her 3-yr-old son is monopolizing it and probably destroying it too :-(. Five more went to folks who came to my presentation at the Bozeman MT LUG last week. I could have checked out more, but so far that is all I have working at this time. One I still have to fix has a strange problem. It seems simple, but I don't know what to try. I have already reflashed the machine and updated the software to 802. It will only write in the alternate characters shown on some of the keys (like the ñ). Could it be that the : alt gr key is stuck? Is there an easy fix for this one? I have 2 XOs with screens that are gone (like 1/2 black) that I could use for parts if I need to, but I was wondering if anyone knew of an easier way than swapping the keyboard. Thanks,Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Google Docs on XO?
Hi, Another puzzler for you folks. I am able to access my files from Google Docs on my XO. I am not really familiar with the service yet and wanted to know if any of you have tried it with the XO and Sugar. Have you been able to edit? I am particularly interested in being able to collaborate and create presentations via Google docs (so far no Presentation Activity in Sugar...right?). I'd also like to know if we have an Activity that allows collaborative video editing? I have seen some things done in Uruguay that appear to be edited, but I don't know for sure if they are. This is for one of our Contributors Program clients who wants to develop a curriculum using XOs and/or Sugar. Can we help him? Thanks, Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Physics
Hi All, I sent this yesterday, but it got filtered out by some machine since I didn't send it as a reply. So I am sending it again today. This is the old science teacher in me talking...I think the Physics Activity has great potential for getting students interested in Physics and in thinking like scientists. I watched a 13-year-old girl play with it at the Bozeman LUG meeting last week. She loved experimenting with the shapes to see what they would do. How do scientists think and work? They observe, take notes, make predictions (hypotheses) test them, and repeat. This program is perfect for that! We need someone to design some simple experiments tied to curriculum goals that will help students of various levels enjoy playing scientist with the Physics Activity as they learn a tiny bit about physics and a lot about thinking like a scientist. I haven't played enough to know what all is included in the Activity. Does it have, for example, the option of changing the material an object is made of? Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Physics
Hi Gary, Yes, for younger students giving them the options to choose materials they know would be better than giving them numbers they wouldn't understand (they would be nice in a more advanced level). I know kids find the Activity fascinating just as it is, but I am looking forward to seeing what else you will do with it. Caryl CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; asa...@gmail.com; bcjor...@gmail.com From: g...@garycmartin.com To: cbige...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [IAEP] Physics Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:00:42 +0100 On 30 Jun 2009, at 17:21, Caryl Bigenho wrote: Hi All, I sent this yesterday, but it got filtered out by some machine since I didn't send it as a reply. So I am sending it again today. This is the old science teacher in me talking...I think the Physics Activity has great potential for getting students interested in Physics and in thinking like scientists. I watched a 13-year-old girl play with it at the Bozeman LUG meeting last week. She loved experimenting with the shapes to see what they would do. How do scientists think and work? They observe, take notes, make predictions (hypotheses) test them, and repeat. This program is perfect for that! We need someone to design some simple experiments tied to curriculum goals that will help students of various levels enjoy playing scientist with the Physics Activity as they learn a tiny bit about physics and a lot about thinking like a scientist. Many thanks for the feedback! :-) I haven't played enough to know what all is included in the Activity. Does it have, for example, the option of changing the material an object is made of? In the latest release (Physics-2), no, there is no user-interface for trying different materials, though this is on my list of things to explore. Keep in mind that (I think) Physics should have as simple a user interface as possible, so young kids just play. But, I'll likely try a few mock-ups where the current set of buttons have hover palettes for additional (advanced) options – like Paint does (just click a brush and start painting, hover over the brush button and you get some more settings for size and shape). Currently all objects have the same material settings: density=1.0 restitution=0.16 friction=0.5 So we have these variables to potentially expose in the UI, or perhaps wrap them up into some pre-set materials (rock, rubber, wood, iron, type thing)? Regards, --Gary ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] NECC Unplugged Reminder
Hi All... Don't miss the NECC Unplugged sessions on Monday (tomorrow) and Tuesday! Just follow the link below to get in and participate. Here are some sessions you may want to attend (virtually): All times are EDT Monday 11-11:30 AM Intro to Sugar by Walter Bender Virtual Room A 11:30-NoonDC Learning Club and MiFi by Mike Lee Onsite main room 12:30-1:30 PMAlternate Reality Gaming by Chris Bigenho Onsite main room(not OLPC/Sugar yet, but he has plans for it) 1:30-2:00 PM SOAS by Caroline Meeks Virtual Room A Tuesday 11-11:30 AMOLPC, Sugar, and the Contributors Program by Caryl Bigenho Virtual Room A 11:30-Noon OLPC and Math4 by Stephen Jacobs of RIT Virtual Room A Of course, there are other sessions you may want to join as well. Check at the website below for these and other offerings: http://www.neccunplugged.com/ See you there!Caryl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Mac Woes
Hi... OK, here's the dumb question for today. I am sitting here in the wilds of MT with only a Mac and would like to create the latest Strawberry Soas for my Mac. Tomorrow evening I will be presenting a talk/hands-on for the Bozeman MT LUG about SoaS and the contributors program. The club president, a prof in the CS dept at MSU in Bozeman, has already created a lot of SoaSs and Live CDs, but I wanted to try it tonight at home so I will know what to expect. I don't have access to a Windows machine here. So I have two possible ideas for how I could do this: 1) Create the SoaS using Windows in my Bootcamp Windows partition. (Will this work?). 2) Use the same procedure we use to create a software update USB for the XO. It will work on either a Mac or Windows. Here is a link to those instructions: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/No-fail_update Steps 2-4 would be the ones needed for this (with variations to meet the actual conditions for SoaS). Would method 2 work? Would method 1 work? If niether will work, I'll just have to wait until tomorrow evening. If either, or both will work, we can revise the instructions for others who may be stranded in the boonies with nothing but their trusty Macs. Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] FW: More from the discussion Caught in a Ponzi scheme
I know some of you know Yama. You might like to read his addition to the discussion from the SG. ;-) Caryl Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:32:45 -0500 From: yamap...@bolinux.org To: support-g...@lists.laptop.org Subject: Re: [support-gang] Fwd: Caught in a Ponzi scheme Oh my, so many quotables... I'll cut mercilessly, pleace bear with me :-) You must, I can't emphasize the must enough, get solid support for teachers for any innovation in education. Buy in is, like, totally vital. Doesn't happen by blah blah, but by teachers actually noticing - themselves - that ICTs work They must see it as something they can easily do, something that will help them be better teachers (*but not make more work for them * I am so much for positioning ICTs as something that will make a teacher's job *easier* as a way to make it *better*. Simply cannot laugh too much at people who want teachers to spend *more* time preparing lessons now that they have ICTs in the classrooom... that will improve their students achievement levels (testing and evaluation come in here), 'cause that is what the rules are made out of. Change the rules, first, then maybe we can go to another pattern of valuing what is useful. and above all, fun for both them and their students. Remember, learning should be fun and teachers are Master Learners. ooops, Caryl, we are exceptions. Just IMHO To do this, there must be excellent planning. This seems to have been done in Peru where the teacher training resources online (finally) are excellent. One really great plan that can be localized does fit all. I'll have to take a look at that There is a great old saying that was one of my mantras as a teacher: If you fail to plan, you plan to fail. neat Sorry for the rant, but I obviously feel very strongly about this. much appreciated Caryl are talking about setting small fires that will set the forest ablaze. ooh, unhappy metaphor, I have no knowledge that something that has good results in mind can come out of the vagaries of a forest fire... ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Open Office on XO?
Hi... Has anyone out there in Sugarland been able to run Open Office on an XO? I have someone doing a project that sounds like he may need a spreadsheet program and a presentation program for. Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Spanish Translation
Hi Sean, If you still need help with the Spanish translation, send it to me at ca...@laptop.org. Caryl -- Forwarded message -- From: Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 00:57 Subject: [Marketing] LinuxTag press release has been submitted - who will translate? To: Sugar Labs Marketing market...@lists.sugarlabs.org Marketers! The LinuxTag press release has been submitted for publication Wednesday morning EDT on June 24th, the first day of LinuxTag and FOSSED. I wish to thank David, Caroline, Walter and in particular Fred Grose for helping me with the final edits down to the wire, we just made the deadline. Carlo Falciola whom I met at SugarCamp Paris has graciously offered to translate the PR into Italian. I will do French as usual. Can we find volunteers to assist with German and Spanish? Could the Translation Team aid us? thanks Sean ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing -- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] IAEP] Press release flurry planning (LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC)
Hi Sean and All, Could you include something about the Contributors Program in the press release? I will be doing a 30 min Virtual Session at NECC Unplugged (Tues June 30 from 11:00-11:30 EDT) where folks can learn more about the Contributors program and have their questions about it answered. If they plan to attend any of the virtual sessions (including Caroline's, Walter's, Mike Lee's and mine,) they will have to get access to Elluminate (free). This should be done ahead of time. http://www.neccunplugged.com/ http://www.elluminate.com/ Incidentally, I want to encourage you all to consider applying for the Contributors program. This is a great time to do it. Machines are currently available (XO-1.0s) for just about any legitimate project proposed. The innards of XO 1.5s will also be available for developers and others with good projects who have the 1.0s and the ability to swap them out. If any of you are interested in getting one of these, this is the time to apply and get in line for when they come out. Sean, If you need any more info from me for the press release, just send me a private email at ca...@laptop.org Caryl P.S. If any of you are interested in ARG, a certain relative of mine, Chris Bigenho, will be doing a double onsite virtual session on Monday June 29 from 12:30-1:30 P.M in the same room where Mike Lee is presenting in the morning. Chris is working on using ARG in education as part of his PhD program at the University of North Texas. He hopes to include Sugar and the XO in his project. Message: 1 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:30:54 +0200 From: Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com Subject: [IAEP] Press release flurry planning (LinuxTag - FOSSED - NECC - GUADEC) To: Sugar Labs Marketing market...@lists.sugarlabs.org, Sugar Devel sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org, iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Message-ID: 378b2b050906180930m12319e53ua1b194973c899...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 We've discussed my idea to do a flurry of press releases over the next couple of weeks, coinciding with our presence/sessions at: * LinuxTag Berlin June 24-27 http://www.linuxtag.org/2009/en.html * Free Open Source Software in Education (FOSSED) Bethel, Maine June 24-26 http://www.fossed.com * National Educational Computing Conference (NECC) Washington, DC June 28-July 1 http://center.uoregon.edu/ISTE/NECC2009 (also EduBloggerCon / Classroom 2.0 LIVE in DC on June 27: http://www.edubloggercon.com/EduBloggerCon+2009) * Gran Canaria Desktop Summit (GUADEC+Akademy) Canary Islands July 3-July 11 http://www.grancanariadesktopsummit.org/ After mulling it over I feel our interests will be best served by two press releases (eReleases/PR Newswire + Sugar Labs press page + targeted mailing to journalists educators), with an option for a third at GUADEC if there are new developments (very possible over next 10 days): Wednesday, June 24th, datelined LinuxTag: SoaS v1 Strawberry release! Gould grant / GPA pilot - classroom tests of SoaS 100 GCompris/ASLO - offer enriched XO-1.5 refresh/XO SoaS version - not forgetting the XO installed base Local Labs - Colombia, Washington DC, Rochester? Dailymotion channel - info source Image: SoaS beauty shots * Monday, June 29th: NECC (Washington DC) Nexcopy partnership Image: TBD I feel the richness of our news on the day both LinuxTag and FOSSED open will increase our chances for wide coverage. I think back-to-back releases won't work for our targeted mailing list and including two releases in one mailing would be clumsy. This will also simplify printing for handouts. The Nexcopy partnership has a different angle and call to action (collect recycle sticks / gesture for schools) and merits a separate treatment. The deadline for the Wednesday SoaS release is in 24 hours... I will put up a draft for the marketing list in a few hours. I will attend LinuxTag on June 26-27 and SugarCamp/FUDCon June 28th. If I've forgotten anything, if anyone has better ideas, please by all means let me know thanks! Sean ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] SG Discussion of Deployments and Planning
Hi Again, We have had an interesting discussion going over at the Support Gang lists. This evening I got this message from Martiin Dengler about it: I found this a great exchange and forwarded some of it to the OLPC UK mailing list as it's quite relevant to the pilot planning we're doing now. Caryl/Sameer, Please consider forwarding the thread in its entirety to IAEP or other open mailing list! Martin So, I will cut and paste the parts together and do just that! It all began with an email a couple of days ago from Christoph Derndorfer: An interesting take on OLPCorps from one of the participants currently in Rwanda: http://olpckenema.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/caught-in-a-ponzi-scheme/ Definitely interesting food for thought I'd say! Cheers, Christoph Then the replies... Nice... just what we need... Tiago Wow! Just read the rant. I have to admit this is sort of what I had in mind when I encouraged Yama to get a pilot school started in Bolivia, in an area not in but near La Paz, where teachers could come to see the XOs in action. But, I would want lots of training and evaluation to happen with teachers, students, parents, and community members involved. That is how a grassroots movement could get started. Sounds like that isn't going to happen with OLPC Corps. Too bad. Caryl Hi Support-Gang, Lots of planning and training isn't really necessary. After all, we are talking about setting small fires that will set the forest ablaze. If you take a look at how FOSS works, it isn't lots of planning and training. Its rapid prototypes with minor course corrections as often as possible. Instead of grand plans, we have something that works and then we fix it every couple of days. We could apply some such thing to these projects. In fact, it has been my experience that lots of planning doesn't work in many such service learning projects. I would highly recommend The Cathedral and the Bazaar to really understand how this works. http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596001087/ Now, as for the rant mentioned above, I've thought about it as well. One really cannot implement and train much in a short period. Sustainability of 100 XOs in the hands of a remote school + NGO really depends on the school and the NGO and not so much on the interns. So, in the few weeks they have, these teams will have to excite the schools and NGOs about the value proposition that comes with the XO. Ruggedness, screen readability, etc. on the hardware side, Sugar bits on the software side, and offline connectivity on the network side (for schools that don't have Internet backhaul). The rest is up to the recipients. I'm not sure how many of these XOs will get shelved in store rooms. That happens all the time. However, even if a few of these cases make it through, they will be good enough to set the forest ablaze. What's happening in Ethiopia (a recent OLPCNews article) isn't that troublesome, really. In fact, its somewhat expected. We know that teachers will resist. We know that these devices are disruptive. Its like what happened when we got Wi-Fi back in 2001 in our classrooms. Professors wanted radio jammers in classrooms! Such losers :-) Make your classes interesting enough, and students won't get distracted by ebay auctions. Use a lot of web references, and the network becomes a support mechanism and not a disruption. I like the fact that these teams will also be deploying school servers. That way, content gets delivered via the XO, network, schoolserver, etc. and will hopefully make the system integral and not extracurricular. That's probably the problem in Ethiopia. The XO isn't curricular. Anyway, now that rubber has hit the road, let's provide as much support and help as we can to these teams. Be sure to leave encouraging comments on their blogs. Many of them are away from home and doing this for the first time. They need to know that they have a solid team standing behind them. cheers, Sameer Hi, I disagree with Sameer's position on the importance of planning and teacher training. I spent many years working in educational technology staff development with teachers in LAUSD. You must, I can't emphasize the must enough, get solid support for teachers for any innovation in education. They must see it as something they can easily do, something that will help them be better teachers (but not make more work for them or take over their jobs), something that will enrich their student's educational experience, something that will improve their students achievement levels (testing and evaluation come in here), and above all, fun for both them and their students.
Re: [IAEP] The Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1
Hi... Tell Grannie about it too! I will muddle my way through it this week and write a short Grannie's Guide To Running SoaS on your XO. I guess I will have to include a guide to getting a developer key for your XO. Explaining techie things to non-techie folks is something I can do very well. ;-) Caryl (aka Grannie among other things, former AlgebraS teacher...the S stands for Slow... not the teacher!) Message: 10 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:34:40 +0200 From: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Show Must Go On - SoaS for the XO-1 To: Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com Cc: IAEP iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, Sugar Devel sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org, Sugar Labs Marketing market...@lists.sugarlabs.org Message-ID: 242851610906170234p58ef6934m23685fd46e15c...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:30, Sean DALYsdaly...@gmail.com wrote: In my view it's never a mistake to indicate that a procedure will wipe all data. We all have a learning curve and the first time I lost all my Journal entries including photos on an XO I wasn't happy about it. I think we shouldn't put the burden of communicating with the general public on the developers. Sebastian is doing an awesome amount of work and he may not have too many spare cycles to think about everything that is required to communicate to the different people. What if we developers only announce in developer-oriented forums and someone else (marketing team?) takes the task of communicating it to end users? Regards, Tomeu Sean ** ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Squeakfest Registration is open
Hi Rita
Will Squeakfest have an Unconference similar to NECC Unplugged? It would
be great for those who can't come to LA in August (it is hot them). They are
using Elluminate and I believe Steve Hargadon is in charge.
Links:
http://www.neccunplugged.com/
http://www.elluminate.com/
http://www.stevehargadon.com/
Caryl
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:38:32 +0200
From: Rita Freudenberg r...@isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de
Subject: [IAEP] {Disarmed} Squeakfest Registration is open
To: iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org,
Squeakfest Registration is Open!
Registration is now open for both Squeakfest USA 2009 (Los Angeles:
August 10,11,12) and Squeakfest Brasil 2009 (Porto Alegre: July 23, 24,
25).
Squeakfest USA registration costs $100, or $125 if payment is received
after August 1st. Squeakfest Brasil registration is free.
Please register as early as possible so that we may better plan the events.
To register for Squeakfest USA, click here
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We hope to see you!
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[IAEP] Keyboard problem? Terminal Problem? ???? Problem
Hi... I decided to try to install Flash in an XO running 802 so that I might be able to get the Periodic Table of Videos and Live Mocha to work on an XO. I started in terminal mode, and thinking I would be extra safe and remove Gnash first, I followed the instructions (see first example) That appeared to work fine and went through a lot of steps. I hit the return button several times before it said it was complete. Then I tried to continue with the installation instructions (See second example). Every time I typed su- l ( that is el not one) it returned the message: bash: su- : command not found and returned the prompt: [o...@xo-15-01-d ~] $ I tried restarting and it happened the same way. I tried different characters (like one) and the problem persisted. Any suggestions? I can reflash to a fresh copy of 802 that still contains Gnash if that will help. I thought maybe leaving Gnash in would cause a problem, but it looks like removing it may have caused even more trouble. ThanksCaryl Examples follow: su -l yum remove gnash gnash-pluginsu -lwget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386.rpm rpm -i flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386.rpm exit___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Keyboard problem? Terminal Problem? ???? Problem
Hi... I decided to try to install Flash in an XO running 802 so that I might be able to get the Periodic Table of Videos and Live Mocha to work on an XO. I started in terminal mode, and thinking I would be extra safe and remove Gnash first, I followed the instructions (see first example) That appeared to work fine and went through a lot of steps. I hit the return button several times before it said it was complete. Then I tried to continue with the installation instructions (See second example). Every time I typed su- l ( that is el not one) it returned the message: bash: su- : command not found and returned the prompt: [o...@xo-15-01-d ~] $ I tried restarting and it happened the same way. I tried different characters (like one) and the problem persisted. Any suggestions? I can reflash to a fresh copy of 802 that still contains Gnash if that will help. I thought maybe leaving Gnash in would cause a problem, but it looks like removing it may have caused even more trouble. ThanksCaryl Examples follow: su -l yum remove gnash gnash-pluginsu -lwget http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386.rpm rpm -i flash-plugin-10.0.15.3-release.i386.rpm exit___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Test Reports
Hi All... I'm all tested out. Here are the latest results... no more for a while. I have other things to do and our daughter arrives for a 10 day visit tomorrow Noon from MA. The Periodic Video Table from the U of Nottingham still doesn't work right. It relies on YouTube and still doesn't function correctly. It loads but the audio has strange echos...random repeats ranging zero to 4 or more on each syllable. The video also behaves strangely...jumping backward and forward and totally out of sync with the audio. However, another wonderful resource works very well. Try it on your XO (with Flash). Here is the link: http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/pompeii/interactive/interactive.html Click on the Flash button on the lower window. When the image appears, click on Enter. Have fun! Any science teachers reading this??? Any ideas for a science contributors program about geology? Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Links to Excellent Materials for the XO in Peru
Hi...You have to see these wonderful materials coming out of Peru! Even if you don't read Spanish, they are worth looking at. You will get the general idea anyway. The message from Nelson Molano translates as: Good afternoon, I am sharing a couple of links with you that I have found from our Peruvian friends (Links) Cheers! Nelson Molino Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:45:33 -0500 From: nelsonmola...@gmail.com To: olpc-...@lists.laptop.org Subject: [Sur] Enlaces XO del Peru Buenas tardes, les comparto un par de enlaces que me he encontrado de nuestros amigos peruanos http://www.perueduca.edu.pe/olpc/archivos/GUIA%20Pedagogica%20OLPC_p1.pdf http://www.perueduca.edu.pe/olpc/OLPC_fichasfasc.html Saludos... Nelson Molano http://ideasfascinantes.blogspot.com/ ___ Lista olpc-Sur olpc-...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/olpc-sur ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Some Comments on Digital Textbooks In California
Hi... Adam Holt alerted me to Gov. Schwarzenegger's proposal to go digital with textbooks statewide in California high schools, starting with math and science this year. Here is my retired teacher's view of the situation... (See: http://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/fact-sheet/12455/) The Good: Textbooks can be up to date and, hopefully, will be. The Bad Gov. Schwarzenegger suggests teachers can print out pages for students who do not have computers. Who pays? Probably the teachers! This really shows no commitment to supplying the schools with computers The Ugly Textbook publishing is a big, competitive business. Lots of profits are to be made in publishing textbooks. What incentive will there be to publish free online books? You can bet they will not be free for long. Hum...Maybe we do need Jerry Brown to run for governor. He had a huge commitment to educational technology when he was in office. Any comments? Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick boot animation
Hi... FWIW, I like the Variant of XO Avatar Sugar Boot, Grey to Colour Dot Transition. It is familiar, makes the progress seem faster, and reminds folks that the XO and Sugar are related. Caryl___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Some Comments on Digital Textbooks In California
Hi Again,I'd like to comment on two of Kathy's comments. 4. Ensure, as a teacher, you have a printing and paper budget. * Don't lay this in the laps of the teachers. They have far to much to do as it is. * Every child should have access to a computer al la the OLPC model (that is seldom really followed) and printers they can use at school for things from the textbook that need to be on paper. *Teachers should not be asked to do more than they already have to do. They should be provided with teacher workrooms at least, with up-to-date, working equipment at their disposal for duplication of special materials such as lab sheets for experiments. Ideally, every teacher would be supplied with their own equipment so they could do this in their own classroom (that they don't have to share with several other teachers as traveling teachers at crowded schools often do). 5. As with everything, never assume funding. Make it work on a shoestring budget. Be creative. *Teachers have been being creative for years. There is a limit to how much that shoestring can be stretched. *It is time we concentrate on supporting the teachers and treating them like the dedicated, highly trained professionals we want them to be, and most are. Only then will be find the best and brightest scrambling to get into schools of education rather than doing, as so many do, teaching until something better comes along. Sorry! It is the old retired educator talking again! CarylP.S. For some reason the formatting on this message is acting crazy. That's Hotmail for you.___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
