[IAEP] Cautions from one laptop per child in marketing technological innovation
Hi all. This is A document from The London School of Economics. Cautions from one laptop per child in marketing technological innovation to LDCs http://bit.ly/hG5QIv Cheers!. Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [Election] Membership and candidate lists finalized
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 7:37 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for getting this done. It is great to have such a strong candidate list and the addition of so many new members. -walter Welcome to all new members!. Rafael Ortiz -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Moving forward.
Hi David and all. On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 7:30 PM, David Farning dfarn...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday I sent a rather blunt email on my concerns about the project. It seems the observations resonated with many people while striking several nerves. The volume of private mail or CCed mail (to a subset of the Sugar Labs participants) responses was unexpectedly high. The five main themes of the responses are: 1. Could you possibility be any more abstract? 2. Several of the points are valid. Here are my responses/suggestions. This should be on a public thread, but someone else will have to start it. 3. The core problem is trust. 4. This conversation is like an iceberg, the 'community' only sees 10% and not the other 90%. 5. Dave you are just a jerk, now shut up. For better of worse, all five points are valid. I am a bumbling jerk who is struggling to rebuild community trust without airing anyone's dirty laundry, including my own. To put all of my cards on the table: 1. The ideas driving OLPC and Sugar are sound. 2. Sugar Labs will continue to fragment until the issue of trust is resolved. 3. Because of this, I left Sugar Labs to start a business which provides service and support for Sugar. 4. I need Sugar to succeed. I need OLPC to succeed. 5. I have been trying to operate 'under the radar' because some in Sugar Labs and OLPC have contacted individuals I am working with and 'suggested' that they not work with me. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I get pissed off about the lack of trust and community building in Sugar Labs, so I go off and form a fork which operates largely in secret. Two years ago, I suggested that the over sight board appoint Walter Bender as Executive Director of Sugar Labs so he would be able to speak on behalf of Sugar Labs. He had three skills which Sugar Labs needed. 1) He was able to clearly and effectively communicate the goals of Sugar and the mission of Sugar Labs. 2) He was able to create an identity for Sugar Labs outside of OLPC. 3) He was a tireless advocate for Sugar. In the past two years Sugar Labs has progressed, largely because of Walter. The goal of sugar and Sugar labs is well understood. Sugar Labs has a clear identity. Now, Sugar Labs has different needs; pragmatic bridge building between individuals and organization. It is time to look for someone with those particular skill to lead/herd Sugar Labs forward. As such I would like to recommend that SLOB ask and appoint Adam Holt as the next Executive Director of Sugar Labs. david In the last email you mentioned key points of possible actual weakness of Sugar Labs, in my opinion changing executive Director doesn't address all these points, we need more community discussions about those. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sur] [Olpc-uruguay] Sugar Labs Oversight Board?
This should be one of the ''duties'' of a community manager, making that liasons between different language communities continue and strenght over time. But more thatn that there is a need of translation bridges done by community members, for this case Caryl and Pablo are examples. Esta debe ser una de las ''responsabilidades'' de un director de la comunidad, hacer que estas las uniones entre comunidades con diferentes lenguajes crezcan y se fortalezcan con el tiempo. Pero mas alla de esto simpre son necesarios puentes de traduccion hechos por personas pertenecientes a la comunidad, para este caso Caryl o Pablo son un ejemplo. Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Bert Freudenberg b...@freudenbergs.de wrote: On 28.09.2010, at 11:05, Tim McNamara wrote: On 25 September 2010 02:22, Pablo Flores pflor...@gmail.com wrote: My support to Rosamel too! The translation is not a minor issue and it would be good to challenge ourselves to find solutions so we can integrate in discussions people that speak different languages. Isn't there some kind of add-on for mailman for making automatic translations? También mi apoto a Rosamel ! El tema de las traducciones no es algo menor, y estaría bueno que nos desafiáramos a nosotros mismos a buscar soluciones que permitan integrar en las discusiones a gente que habla en distintos idiomas. No hay algún tipo de add-on para mailman que haga traducciones automáticas? Saludos, Pablo Flores Esperanto? ;) English does what Esperanto promised. To collaborate worldwide, learning English is essential. At the same time, empowering local Sugar Labs is essential. They should be the local-language contact, and mediators to the world-wide community. - Bert - ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-uruguay] [Sur] Sugar Labs Oversight Board?
My vote to rosa! Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: Mibbit is a web chat service that supports inline translation, http://wiki.mibbit.com/index.php/Input_Options#Translation_Menu. The #schoolserver channel, irc://irc.oftc.net#schoolserver, might be a good place to use it. Here is a Mibbit link to it, https://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.oftc.netchannel=%23schoolserver --Fred Thanks Fred - maybe we can try to use that in our next meeting ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Make Your Own Sugar Activities! is on Lulu
It would be very nice to have this on Spanish!. Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 15:07, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Tomeu, In the FLOSS Manuals world anyone who wants to do a translation of any FM book may do so. I'm not capable of doing a translation myself, but if anyone was interested all he would have to do would be to request a Spanish version to be set up by asking for it on the FM mailing list, then start working on it. Anyone signed up with FM may edit any book, just like with a Wiki. Only setting up a new book requires admin help, and I think the new Booki software that FM will use soon will eliminate even that requirement. FM is set up to encourage this kind of thing, and believe me if anyone wanted to do a Spanish translation I'd be tickled to death. So no plans, but none are really needed in this case. Well, guess that somebody needs to announce this manual in the spanish-speaking lists and propose the translation effort? Maybe one of our fellow hackers from SA? Regards, Tomeu James Simmons On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 06:35, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: My FLOSS Manual Make Your Own Sugar Activities! made it to Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/make-your-own-sugar-activities/12047878 FLOSS Manuals get the profits for book sales, not me, but I thought you'd all like to know it's available. Any plans on translating it to Spanish? That's how I would expect it to reach much bigger impact. I think several people in the olpc-sur would be interested in helping out. Regards, Tomeu James Simmons ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Make Your Own Sugar Activities! is on Lulu
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:19 PM, anshu.ga...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to consider using Google Translate as a starting point, and then cleaning up the translation. Anshu I've seen great progress on google translator, nonetheless i still recomend to do a fresh translation up from the start. it's still in my opinion not so time consuming. On Aug 2, 2010 2:37pm, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi... If some one will take care of getting it set up, I will be happy to help with the translations and try to recruit some of my bilingual friends to help. It may all take a while, but let's get the ball rolling! Caryl (aka Carolina, aka SweetXOGrannie From: raf...@sugarlabs.org Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 11:35:11 -0500 To: to...@sugarlabs.org CC: webch...@invisible.net; sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org; scotty...@gmail.com; sarah.gladst...@walgreens.com; anshu.ga...@gmail.com; nices...@gmail.com; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] Make Your Own Sugar Activities! is on Lulu It would be very nice to have this on Spanish!. Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 15:07, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Tomeu, In the FLOSS Manuals world anyone who wants to do a translation of any FM book may do so. I'm not capable of doing a translation myself, but if anyone was interested all he would have to do would be to request a Spanish version to be set up by asking for it on the FM mailing list, then start working on it. Anyone signed up with FM may edit any book, just like with a Wiki. Only setting up a new book requires admin help, and I think the new Booki software that FM will use soon will eliminate even that requirement. FM is set up to encourage this kind of thing, and believe me if anyone wanted to do a Spanish translation I'd be tickled to death. So no plans, but none are really needed in this case. Well, guess that somebody needs to announce this manual in the spanish-speaking lists and propose the translation effort? Maybe one of our fellow hackers from SA? Regards, Tomeu James Simmons On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 7:56 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 06:35, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: My FLOSS Manual Make Your Own Sugar Activities! made it to Lulu.com: http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/make-your-own-sugar-activities/12047878 FLOSS Manuals get the profits for book sales, not me, but I thought you'd all like to know it's available. Any plans on translating it to Spanish? That's how I would expect it to reach much bigger impact. I think several people in the olpc-sur would be interested in helping out. Regards, Tomeu James Simmons ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Google demos Scratch-based Android development tool for students
I don't know if it's a crazy idea but i guess TA can be used also to construct activities, Defining specific general blocks for general sugar specifics, like graphics toolkit and prescence. Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 12:24 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote: On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 6:45 AM, Kevin Cole dc.l...@gmail.com wrote: http://feeds.arstechnica.com/~r/arstechnica/index/~3/fgfvtXF_2a8/google-demos-codeless-android-development-tool-for-students.ars Google has announced a new browser-based visual development tool called App Inventor that allows users to create Android applications without having to write any code. It appears to be aimed primarily at students. App Inventor enables user interface design with a simple drag-and-drop layout system. The behavior of the user interface elements can be programmed via a visual development system that the user manipulates by organizing blocks with specific programming characteristics into various structures. The blocks can be dragged around and snapped into each other to form relatively sophisticated programs. This aspect of App Inventor is based on Scratch, an MIT visual programming language. The compiler that translates the blocks into Android bytecode is built on top of the GNU Kawa framework, which provides a Scheme-based intermediate language. It's worth noting that Kawa can also be used standalone to build entire Android applications with Scheme. We were not able to test App Inventor ourselves because it is still in closed beta and is not broadly available to the general public yet. If you want to try it yourself, you will have to register on the Google Labs website and wait for approval. For more details, see the official introduction and demo video. Read the comments on this post It appears very interesting. Unfortunately, the ripped out a lot of the interesting StarLogo stuff: http://education.mit.edu/drupal/starlogo-tng ...and replaced with Android-specific user interface elements. One could do roughly the same thing with GTK elements to make a Sugar Activity builder. Most of the hard work is already done w/ the OpenBlocks framework: http://education.mit.edu/drupal/openblocks It's a shame the framework is written in Java, which isn't the most Sugar-friendly language. --scott -- ( http://cscott.net/ ) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:38, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 15:16, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 17:52, John Tierney jtis4...@hotmail.com wrote: Thought this article would be of interest to the community. OLPC Rules out Windows for XO-3 http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/052710-olpc-rules-out-windows-for.html Ed's mentions of Sugar, Sugar Labs and the Sugar community are very nice. And he's right about the importance of Sugar growing support for touch-based interfaces. Anybody has thought about it? How much support for it do we get by default though gtk/pygtk/xorg support from upstream? I presume we might have to do some changes to make advanced use of it in sugar core, and possibly but surely we get quite a reasonable amount by virtue of support in upstream. From http://live.gnome.org/GTK%2B/MPX seems like most of Sugar should keep working, but there will be the need to implement some gestures to keep usability in some areas and to better take advantage of the hardware. Would be nice to install F14/Rawhide on a device with multitouch and try it out with latest unstable gtk+, which contains the xi2 work: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=596725 Regards, Tomeu ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing CJB mentioned he already has Fedora running!! Gary has been doing some good thinking about extensions for touch. Running on what? ;) A proto tablet from Marvell, me thinks. Nice, would be nice to see this work in action. Tomeu -walter -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Scratch-20100321
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 3:43 AM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: my recollection it is except for the name scratch and the cat. that is, you can create a fork if you dont call it scratch and you dont use the cat graphic tony Is Scratch free software now? I believe it didn't used to be. The license page in ASLO is empty: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/versions/license/29908 Tomeu, thanks for spotting this, I've updated ASLO with the appropriate license. Regards, Tomeu On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 00:12, Sugar Labs Activities activit...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4249 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.88 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26916/scratch-20100321.xo Release notes: NOTE: On a 1.5 machine, the beta version hangs soon after playing any sound. This is due to an interaction between the sound driver and the power saving feature. We are working on this problem. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Scratch-20100321
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero raf...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 3:43 AM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: my recollection it is except for the name scratch and the cat. that is, you can create a fork if you dont call it scratch and you dont use the cat graphic. Also about Scratch variations..I came across panther http://scratch.wikia.com/wiki/Panther tony Is Scratch free software now? I believe it didn't used to be. The license page in ASLO is empty: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/versions/license/29908 Tomeu, thanks for spotting this, I've updated ASLO with the appropriate license. Regards, Tomeu On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 00:12, Sugar Labs Activities activit...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4249 Sugar Platform: 0.82 - 0.88 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26916/scratch-20100321.xo Release notes: NOTE: On a 1.5 machine, the beta version hangs soon after playing any sound. This is due to an interaction between the sound driver and the power saving feature. We are working on this problem. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep _ This mail has been virus scanned by Australia On Line see http://www.australiaonline.net.au/mailscanning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] deployment meeting agenda
I added some topics. When is the next meeting planned ? Who will be the coordinator ?. Rafael Ortiz 2010/5/20 Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com: I made a first pass at a process on the team page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team#How_to_add_topics -walter On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote: Hi, how do we propose topics for the next meeting? The wiki is a bit ambiguous on this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Meetings I'd suggest we do something along the lines of what we do for the oversight-board meetings: simply let people add topic suggestions to the wiki and have the team then decide which will be discussed at the meeting. -walter Regards, Tomeu ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] deployment meeting agenda
Hi rgs. On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Raul Gutierrez Segales r...@rieder.net.py wrote: On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 11:03 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: I added some topics. When is the next meeting planned ? I am still trying to figure out how to get in touch with at least someone from each deployment (that is, I'd like a list of active deployments). I'll be there representing SugarLabs Co. How about the last Friday of May (28th)? That would give us enough time to get the word out. Great. Who will be the coordinator ?. I have no problems in volunteering if no one else can take the place. Nice, thanks for this effort. Cheers, Raúl ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Argentina List
Hi Gonzalo On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@gmail.com wrote: The Decalogue is a proposal about how a project 1 to 1 should be, to provide to the ministry of education of the city of Buenos Aires. Its interesting remark that we and 12 associations are developing and signing the decalogue. Thanks for the precisions, most welcomed!. Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs Argentina On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Also please take a look at the ''Decalogo'' http://ar.sugarlabs.org/wiki/index.php?title=Decálogo_GCBA (Sorry Is only in Spanish) Ten possible fundamentals of the OLPC/Sugar project for Argentina. Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Folks, Some interesting stuff is going on on the Argentina mailing list. If you read Español or can tolerate Google translate, you might want to listen in. If you don't want to sign up, you can read the Archives. Sign up or read theArchives here: http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/argentina Caryl (aka Carolina) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Gonzalo Odiard Responsable de Desarrollo Sistemas Australes ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [ASLO] XOplanet
Hello all. I really don't know, but we can ask in olpc-uruguay. cheers!. Rafael Ortiz On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: maybe dirakx knows more about who maintain xoplanet On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 11:35:45AM -0300, Bernie Innocenti wrote: This community portal in Spanish looks very similar to ASLO in scope and design: http://xoplanet.blogspot.com/ I wonder who maintains it, and if we could get in touch to see what opportunities exist to coordinate better. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ ASLO mailing list a...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/aslo -- Aleksey ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: DML Competition open for resubmissions! All applicants must resubmit by Feb 15th at noon EST
For our attention. -- Forwarded message -- From: Mandy Dailey mandy.dai...@duke.edu Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:01 PM Subject: DML Competition open for resubmissions! All applicants must resubmit by Feb 15th at noon EST To: dmlc2010-applica...@duke.edu The application system for the 2010 HASTAC/MacArthur Foundation Digital Media and Learning Competition is now open for resubmissions. Resubmit your applications here: http://dmlcompetition.net/fastapps/login.php. All applications are due by February 15th at noon EST. The resubmission period is designed to allow you to revise and strengthen your applications by tweaking, editing, broadening, etc. your initial application to incorporate any useful feedback or ideas offered by the public. It is not necessary for you to revise your application based on the feedback you receive, however, all previously submitted applications MUST be resubmitted (even those that have not been edited or changed in any way). The application form has not changed. Resubmitted applications will not be available in the public commenting system until after February 15th. Good luck! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Public commenting now open, join the conversation! (dml)
To complete the info: You can discuss Sugar proposal (if you got an account on the digital media and learning site) going to. http://dmlcompetition.net/pligg/story.php?title=496#discuss Also there is a nice feature ''tell a friend'', where you can put three mails to inform about the proposal and spread the word!. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 12:24 PM, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote: Thanks to Rafael for pointing this out - the Sugar proposal is at http://www.dmlcompetition.net/pligg/story.php?title=496. I mentioned on IRC last night that we need someone to volunteer as coordinator this summer. If you are interested, please contact me. regards. -walter On 01/27/2010 11:18 AM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Mandy Daileymandy.dai...@duke.edu Date: Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:10 AM Subject: Public commenting now open, join the conversation! To: dmlc2010-applica...@duke.edu Join the Conversation! Public commenting on the 2010 HASTAC/MacArthur Foundation Digital Media and Learning Competition is now open! Join the conversation. Log in to provide feedback and comments on applications and see how others are reacting to your application. Register to add your comments by creating a user name and password (please note the user name and password you created to submit an application will not work; all users must create new logins). You will receive an activation e-mail, with a link to confirm your address, and can then log in to the system. Take a look at as many of the brief 50-word project descriptions as you can. If something looks interesting, you can either read more (a 300-word description) or save it and come back later for a closer look. Once you’ve taken a look, we encourage you to discuss (post a comment) or tell a friend. Browse around the site. You can search for projects by tag words that interest you, like robots or climate change, or look at the tag cloud for other clues. You can see which projects are generating the most comments or see which ones were commented on most recently. Navigate, explore and share your thoughts. Do you think the idea is a good one? Do you have any suggestions on how to make it better? Interested in collaborating? The applicants will have a chance to incorporate your input during the resubmission period. All of the projects have distinct URLs, so you can tweet, blog and share applications and solicit feedback. If you have any questions, please contact d...@hri.uci.edu. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Started a [[Grants]] page
Hi Mel On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote: Are you working on a grant application for a Sugar Labs related project? Did you apply for a grant for a Sugar Labs related project? (Regardless of the outcome, it's valuable to capture the thought process so that we can learn to make our success rate higher in the future.) Have you seen cool grants that people in the Sugar Labs community should know about? You want to see the Grants Page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Grants Thanks for making up this page i added some grants that i know on http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Grants#Grants_to_watch if someone has more interesting links let us know. That is all. --Mel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Multiple-language pages on wiki
Hi Mel On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Mel Chua m...@melchua.com wrote: Do you know how to add several languages in our wiki? Poking the iaep metabrain, in case someone else has better ideas... I know of several ways of doing multiple languages with mediawiki, none of which are super-ideal. * the way Wikipedia does it - multiple mediawiki installs, one per language (de.wikipedia.org is a separate install from en.wikipedia.org) and crosslinks between the different language instances for the same term/article. There's no real good way to make sure the content in one language is synced with the same content in another. I think this is the better way, it assures that translations are managed independently, translation is an open issue , and we must not be paying attention to make sure that contents are perfectly synced, i prefer to have slightly different versions of articles in each language, interest will keep versions synced or even different articles could emerge in each language, for SL wiki i'm trying to have an ''spanish version'' title to link translated articles to Local Labs wikis. f,e == English article == ... == Spanish version == Link to local lab wiki translation, The Spanish translation is a ''free'' translation and could be different ways of translating it even for different Spanish speaking countries, so if some one wants to add a new translation can add a link it to it's own local lab wiki page. * the way the OLPC wiki does it: all-in-one-mediawiki-instance, with page titles in the different languages. [[Sugar]] and [[Azucar]], for instance. Same syncing problem as above. * There's a nice Google Translate template at the top (see the blue bar across the top of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Summer_of_Content) that works pretty well, though it doesn't help people who want to edit in a language that the page isn't in. * Also using http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Summer_of_Content as an example: inline translation (BAD IDEA, does not scale). You can see the French words inline with the English, and how it makes the page harder to read for readers of /either/ language (imo). I think it matters what we need multiple languages for - do people need to be able to edit the same page no matter what language they speak, does a page only need to be editable in one language, do the two language versions of the same topic need to be in sync or can they diverge, is it only one or two pages that need to be bilingual, is machine translation ok, etc? --Mel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] dealing with mailing lists
Hi I would also like to suggest to those colleagues who are subscribed to the mailing lists but are not being able to keep up with them regularly, to set up a rule in their mail client that highlights those emails that include their addresses in CC or that mention their names. Another good practice is filtering and only letting inbox got mails that are directly aim to you. Some people have established times of the day to reply specific filtered messages or mail lists and then back to ''real'' work. +1 -- that's what I do. I'm sub'd to many lists, follow some threads (definitely not all! :) ). I sure keep track of threads where I am CC'd or that I recognise as mentioning areas I work on. cheers, m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com mar...@laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] sustaining development
Hi Tomeu. My thoughts on this are that institutions (both private and public) that are running big deployments, should support the core devs. As concerns rise to improve quality over quantity of machines deployed, this process of founding core dev should come natural as it was natural now with the development of new features. Although, the exact way that this could happen is not clear to me yet. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi all, as you may know (specially if you have read my last blog posts) these days I'm quite happy at how big users of Sugar such as OLPC deployments and also OLPC itself are starting to do their Sugar work inside the Sugar Labs community, instead of doing it on their own and keeping the results for themselves. While I think this is a big step forward towards sustainability of Sugar development, I'm still concerned about the not-so-long-term future because there's a good amount of work that needs to be done so that new Sugar releases are made with consistent quality and that work is being done by volunteers, funding it with their savings. When those savings end, there will be no place where deployers and volunteers could share their work. We could put it as if we had covered the need of funding new features, but we still are depending precariously on the good will of a few in order to sustain the process through which new features reach children. My questions is, how can we reach sustainability on the rest of the process? Thanks, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] updating local labs page
Hi Sean. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: We need to recommend a process for how a local labs is founded too. Starting point is putting people from a country or region in touch with each other, then I guess editing a wiki page together so we can find them too? Yeah that's the way...after initial bonds are made people tend to make reunions and document those on the wiki and after continuous work they'll want a more formal organization, but that ''want more'' has to come from inside the local lab. Sean On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, I think that some proposed and maybe actual local labs are missing from this page: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Local_Labs#Proposals Could each local lab check it's there? Thanks, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Local Labs for Mexico
Another task worth taking into count, is making bonds between already existent local labs like Chile's and Colombia's. cheers!, Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 14:13, Gabriel Molina skip...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! There are many people interested in Sugar in Mexico, there are people in Chiapas, some others working for a private foundation (Fundación Carlos Slim, Telmex) and an OLPC proyect in Nayarit and San Luis Potosí. I've been tring to contact these people to know the status of these projects. As far as I know all these projects are in incubating status. What I'd like to accomplish is: 1. Create a list of the existing projects involving Sugar in Mexico. 2. Join forces to colaborate in common needs for all projects, like an unified website for difusion or developement of regional applications and localization. 3. Start another Local Lab. A very important task of local labs is identifying needs of the deployments in there and passing those to upstream. A good start would be to talk to those deployments and see what is most needed by them. That can be the correction of a deficiency in Sugar, a new activity, localization in some local language, etc. Regards, Tomeu Saludos On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Let's get started. It looks like there is a strong grass root interest. Lets use this mailing list until we need a new one. The first question is would would we like to accomplish? 1. Support one or more deployments. 2. Spreading the word. 3. Localisation. 4. Develop technical or educational content. What are some or the various project going on in Mexico? david 2009/12/3 Asaf Paris Mandoki asa...@gmail.com: I'm in Mexico and would be interested in collaborating to start the local lab. Saludos, Asaf 2009/11/18 Gabriel Molina skip...@gmail.com: Hello! I'm very interested in Sugar Project and I'd like to know if there are people working to introduce this project in Mexico. If not, I'd like to start a Local Lab based on the experiencies of other latin american counties. Bynow I'm gathering information about the status of this project in Mexico. Cheers -- ちりも積もれば山となる ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- ちりも積もれば山となる ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Local Labs for Mexico
Hello Gabriel. There are some folks working on Sugar in Mexico, there is a xo deployment run by Telmex and there is a Soas-Classmate deployment in Chiapas our contact there is Jose Icaza http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Jose_Icaza You should contact him and others working on Sugar to begin the Local Labs organization. HTH Rafael Ortiz 2009/11/18 Gabriel Molina skip...@gmail.com: Hello! I'm very interested in Sugar Project and I'd like to know if there are people working to introduce this project in Mexico. If not, I'd like to start a Local Lab based on the experiencies of other latin american counties. Bynow I'm gathering information about the status of this project in Mexico. Cheers -- ちりも積もれば山となる ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
Another suggestions from -Sur. Geogebra and Wikibrowse. cheers! Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Claudia Urrea callaur...@gmail.com wrote: What about SocialCalc? I use it with measure to graph the data collected. It can also be used to do any kind of budget, etc. People use it.. and they are planning to release a new version with Spanish localization. All my XOs have VNC launcher... I use it during workshops or demos, but I couldn't find it in Sugar Labs. Claudia. On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, It's done..let's see what people says there. Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 18:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments, they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the list. Should we ask in olpc-sur? Thanks, Tomeu Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both). Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps he could get it in shape for inclusion in time. Right now it doesn't work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue. Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the Internet Archive. There are only about a million books there! It is, however, ready to go. It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it deserves to be. You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech with highlighting feature and its own built in book search. It only works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures. The present version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences (pitch and rate). This is a popular download on ASLO. I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder if children would find that useful. They already have Chat and Speak. If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince modules, etc. to include with it. With the right modules Read can do DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs. DJVU in particular is useful for Internet Archive books. James Simmons Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500 From: Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5 To: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: 9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Chris, I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA Books. Otherwise, this list looks good. Thanks. Gerald ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
Hi, It's done..let's see what people says there. Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 7:19 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 18:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments, they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the list. Should we ask in olpc-sur? Thanks, Tomeu Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both). Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps he could get it in shape for inclusion in time. Right now it doesn't work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue. Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the Internet Archive. There are only about a million books there! It is, however, ready to go. It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it deserves to be. You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech with highlighting feature and its own built in book search. It only works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures. The present version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences (pitch and rate). This is a popular download on ASLO. I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder if children would find that useful. They already have Chat and Speak. If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince modules, etc. to include with it. With the right modules Read can do DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs. DJVU in particular is useful for Internet Archive books. James Simmons Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500 From: Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5 To: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: 9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Chris, I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA Books. Otherwise, this list looks good. Thanks. Gerald ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5
Also this should be asked to future XO 1.5 deployments, they could have another ideas for activities to be included in the list. Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Jim Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, I agree with Gerald on either Get Books or Get IA Books (not both). Get Books is still being worked on by Sayamindu Dasgupta but perhaps he could get it in shape for inclusion in time. Right now it doesn't work on .82, but I can't see that being an issue. Get IA Books works on either but is limited to the books in the Internet Archive. There are only about a million books there! It is, however, ready to go. It isn't a popular download on ASLO but it deserves to be. You might also consider Read Etexts, because of its text to speech with highlighting feature and its own built in book search. It only works with Project Gutenberg titles, so no pictures. The present version is useable, but I'm working on a new version that supports word wrapping on PG texts and saving font size and speech preferences (pitch and rate). This is a popular download on ASLO. I've never tried the IRC Activity so I'm not knocking it, but I wonder if children would find that useful. They already have Chat and Speak. If you're going to include Read you should consider what evince modules, etc. to include with it. With the right modules Read can do DJVU, .cbz, and EPUB documents as well as PDFs. DJVU in particular is useful for Internet Archive books. James Simmons Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:22 -0500 From: Gerald Ardito gerald.ard...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [IAEP] Wanted: List of Sugar activities for the XO-1.5 To: Chris Ball c...@laptop.org Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org, de...@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: 9403b1570911231226j58f91cafhbce60f25d00c...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Chris, I would suggest at least one of the Activities to get books, like Get IA Books. Otherwise, this list looks good. Thanks. Gerald ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] SLs Chile and GNOME Chile
I know that gnome-es is very active and at least one fellow Colombian developer with experience on gnome, we can begin to work with them at sugar-desarrollo. Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:00 AM, Werner Westermann werne...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks David, the technical background is not our best side, but we need to get in track. If you know ideas around Gnome and Sugar development it would be great to know. Regards, werner 2009/11/3 David Van Assche dvanass...@gmail.com Hi Werner, I don't know if you know this, but both Sugar an Gnome share identical code for collaboration and communication in the form of Telepathy dbus api (http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/) The only difference is that at the time their presence service was not so advanced, so Sugar has its own. Telepathy has since really mattured though, and mission control 5, that includes an advanced presence service that hopeffuly some folks are porting to latest sugar,, David Van Assche On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Werner Westermann werne...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Tomeu, regards from Santiago, Chile. GNOME community, as far as I know, it had a lot of ups and down in their effort to build collaborative work. I really don't know if there's some counterpart to talk to. This is no sin for any free-software community, but it gets hard to coordinate any kind of cooperation. Where do you see that there's potential around Chile? Are yo talking to chileans involved with GNOME? I must say that stimulating GNOMErs to work around Sugar could be a good idea, but I feel that should come from GNOME's vision and scope. Two chileans are in GNOME's board (Germán Poo http://www.calcifer.org/ and Fernando San Martín http://blogs.gnome.org/fsmw/), and maybe they could help. Is there any work going around SL and GNOME today? Best wishes, werner 2009/11/2 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org Hi, have you considered reaching GNOME Chile for cooperation? Sugar's code is more than 90% from GNOME and the two upstreams regularly cooperate. There's lots of potential for resource pooling in the technical level, and also in the advocacy for free software in education. Regards, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Mike Ditka - If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mike_ditka.html ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] We want to create our local Sugar Labs Argentina.-
Hello Gustavo. On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Gustavo Ibarra ibarr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:45 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hey Gustavo, Hello David and Rafael A Local Lab in Argentina is great! We have found that Local Labs are incredibly helpful to the community at large. Usually, I try to help labs get set up. But now, I would like to stay out of the picture. There are some really great Local Labs that are doing amazing this. We hope everything will be ok. We want to do interesting things in argentina..!! The true value of a Local Lab is building on top of Sugar to solve your _local_ needs. So, would you mind working with Rafael and other existing local labs to set up SLA. The big thing is that you do what is best for Argentina. I will work with rafael in things related to the set up of the SLA and be in touch with other regional labs Rafael, how do you suggest to continue?.. Having for granted that you have already a strong group of individuals or ''core'' that are willing to take the lead on all the tasks related to a local lab, we can begin to work with the infrastructure team to set you up a wiki, maillist and @ar.sugarlabs.org mails. About communication with other local labs Chile and Colombia have their own wikis and mailists we can begin also to work on -sur (as always ;)) cheers! david -- Saludos, Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] We want to create our local Sugar Labs Argentina.-
Hello Gustavo. Glad to have you here. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Please copy to argent...@lists.laptop.org. I am not subscribed to it because, unfortunately, I do not speak or write Spanish. Welcome/Bienvenido. I have just started organizing online meetings on the collaboration features of Sugar and the XO. Any interested teachers are welcome to join us for testing and tutorial sessions. We also need questions from teachers and students on anything that has puzzled them, and volunteers to translate the materials we create to Spanish and other languages. Our joint sessions will use Sugar on a Stick, which is set up to use a particular Jabber server. At some point we will provide instructions for connecting to that server from other forms of Sugar. They may very well be in the Wiki, but I haven't looked. On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 21:46, Gustavo Ibarra ibarr...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody. I´m writing in the name of argentinian people who have periodic meetings, which we call Sugar Days Argentina http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SugarDaysArgentina We are forming a community of software developers and teachers of the area who are interested in exchanging experiences and learn about XO computers and the platform. We are focusing in the following objectives: * To do periodic meetings with real objectives and activities. * To invite people who want to work. * To work in the use of computers specially in models destined for education projects called 1:1. * To share work with other developers, specially with teachers who use this programs and can tell us their educational vision. * To look for the best way to collaborate on line with other current projects (of laboratories or research university group or independent entrepreneur). * To generate different working groups with the same aims but with different specific areas of applications:Python, Etoys, Fedora/SUGAR/SoaS. We would like to reach in the short and intermediate time the following: * To keep active in argentina the spirit of working in: OLPC and SUGAR LAB * To interact with pre-existing experiences such as : Sugars Lab's, PERU EDUCA, CEIBAL, RUP JAM, PARAGUAY EDUCA * To help to have more XO's in classrooms in Argentina and to create SUGAR LABS in Argentina. We ask permission to create our local Sugar Lab for Argentina, as members of the Sugar Labs community, accepting and respecting MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Local_Lab_MOU and the appropiate use of the LOGO http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo#Logo_usage Welcome aboard!, Local labs efforts must ask permission primary form it's own local communities, for the overall community we ask to follow the rules of distribution and participation already concerted with the overall community, like the MOU f.e... i also recommend you to see SL governance and SL .co governance to have ideas about to organize participation. If you need more information, please write to the list argent...@lists.laptop.org or to my personal email, Greetings...!!! Gustavo.- ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://www.earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] deployments driving sugar development
Thanks for this Tomeu. If you want help with the Spanish translation don't hesitate to ask. We will pass it along to -Sur and other Spanis-speaking mail lists. Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi all, one step more in this direction: http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=enformkey=dG03eXFwa2FUZTNrNTItejdLT1pBblE6MA For the first round of feedback request I want this form to be very simple to fill. For further cycles we can improve based on the past ones. We'll need help with translating, consolidating and reaching the people with the best information. For now I will translate it to Spanish, but if someone wants, we can also do other languages. My main objective is collecting feedback about Sugar, which is what I can act on, but I'm concerned that many of the people we want to reach might not know what Sugar is or which functions are more directly related to software or to hardware. So I'm thinking for now to do a form about the XO and another about Sugar for non-XO deployments. About the best way to collect and process this information, I have gone with Google Docs after seeing Christoph's one, but if someone thinks that are better solutions (semantic wiki?) I'm all ears. Thanks, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Slobs election results 2009
Congrats to the new SLOBS :). Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Congratulations to everyone! :-) Christoph David Farning schrieb: The results are in for this years election. The winners are in for this years election. Walter Bender Tomeu Vizoso Mel Chua Bernie Innocenti Chris Ball Sean Daly Adam Holt David Farning Slobs Election Referee 2009 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ SLOBs mailing list sl...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/slobs ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Yama on volunteering.
Here is a nice writing about how to match volunteer work with large country OLPC/Sugar deployments (like Uruguay's). http://www.olpcnews.com/use_cases/community/how_could_i_tell_the_president.html Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] installation problem
Hello On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:26 AM, roberto robert...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 16:19, robertorobert...@gmail.com wrote: hello everyone i am trying to install sugar-on-a-stick using the process suggested in: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Strawberry#Windows_Users hello, since i cannot solve the problem with this stick, if it may be a solution i'll buy a new one ... do you provide a list 'of sticks producers where the installation have been successful ? i don't think that there is such a list, however as a personal experience Kingston devices have been reliable in the pilot sites I'm working on.. cheers!, thank you -- roberto ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Project Guidelines posted
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Bryan Berry br...@olenepal.org wrote: On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 12:25 -0500, David Farning wrote: Project/SIGs are product focused. The exist to help guide a project through it's life cycle. For example, there has recently been some rather heated discussions about working more closely with Qt. This is an example of a idea the could start as a SIG and grow into a project and be included in the Learning Platform if it proves useful. Sorry to have not been involved in this conversation. So it sounds to me like Karma should be an SL SIG and later an SL Project. I really don't have an idea of how it will be governed but I will leave that to later as i see how the community around it develops. So I guess Karma can't progress from SIG to project until the leadership process is defined. I feel bad because I have been putting the SL logo on the karmaeducation.org site. Sorry if I was using the SL branding prematurely. I also put the SL logo in the Karma presentations. Huh? Seems like an appropriate use of the logo to me. For me also, it follows perfectly the guidelines:, http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo#Logo_usage -walter -- Bryan W. Berry Technology Director OLE Nepal, http://www.olenepal.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Spanish Translation request
Thanks Maria del Pilar and Edward, for the corrections and adjustments. Rafael Ortiz 2009/9/11 Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com: 2009/9/11 Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com: Hi Rafael, Can I get an rtf or .doc version please? Or cut and paste it into an email? The principal cant open the text file. :/ and when I open it I am not getting the special characters. We are all on Macs right now so if there is someway I should set up my Mac to accommodate the character set please let me know. Thanks! Caroline What character set or encoding is this in? I don't recognize it. Each of these characters takes two bytes, but it isn't UTF-8. √≥ ó √° á √± ñ √≠ í Corrected text below. Formulario de Consentimiento Informado para padres Se le ha invitado a dar su consentimiento para que su hijo participe en un estudio de tesis de doctorado de investigaci√≥n conducido por Gerald Ardito, Candidato Seidenberg en la Universidad de Pace 'Escuela de Ciencias de la Computaci√≥n. El estudio se llevar√° a cabo entre el inicio del a√±o escolar y 31 de diciembre de 2009. Este proyecto de investigaci√≥n ha sido aprobado por la Junta de Revisi√≥n Institucional de la Universidad Pace, y por el Director del Proyecto Piloto de de la Academia Gardner. Si usted tiene preguntas acerca de los derechos de su ni√±o como un sujeto en este estudio, por favor comun√≠quese con el Dr. Brian Evans, de la Universidad Pace, 163 Williams Street, 11th Floor, New York, NY 10038, (212) 346-1248. El Asesor de Gerald para esta investigaci√≥n es la Dra. Sandra flanco, Profesor de la Universidad Pace, Pace University, 861 Bedford Road, Pleasantville, Nueva York 10570, (914) 773-3653. Formulario de Consentimiento Informado para padres Se le ha invitado a dar su consentimiento para que su hijo participe en un estudio de tesis de doctorado de investigación conducido por Gerald Ardito, Candidato Seidenberg en la Universidad de Pace 'Escuela de Ciencias de la Computación. El estudio se llevará a cabo entre el inicio del año escolar y 31 de diciembre de 2009. Este proyecto de investigación ha sido aprobado por la Junta de Revisión Institucional de la Universidad Pace, y por el Director del Proyecto Piloto de de la Academia Gardner. Si usted tiene preguntas acerca de los derechos de su niño como un sujeto en este estudio, por favor comuníquese con el Dr. Brian Evans, de la Universidad Pace, 163 Williams Street, 11th Floor, New York, NY 10038, (212) 346-1248. El Asesor de Gerald para esta investigación es la Dra. Sandra flanco, Profesor de la Universidad Pace, Pace University, 861 Bedford Road, Pleasantville, Nueva York 10570, (914) 773-3653. -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] Sugar on a Stick v2 Release Naming
Hi all. I like blueberry, in spanish we can call it 'mora'. i like mora's juice ;). Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Martin in fact I often worry about talking too much during the marketing meetings, others not getting a word in. I'd be delighted if nonmarketing Sugar Labs team members lurked or participated, although I have clear ideas about how to work on marketing puzzles I'll never claim to have all the answers. re marketing course: in fact I have accepted Mel's invitation to do a classroom for Fedora. re logos: Strawberry=6, Blueberry=4, and 5 we'll use some other time Blueberry has been our working name for the next SoaS release since before the Strawberry release (we chose to have banners done in both red and blue logos so they would stay current longer) so I think we're all set with Blueberry? thanks Sean On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Martin Dengler mar...@martindengler.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 09:41:31AM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: I'm sorry Martin, I thought I was answering You were but there's a lot of extra information that's sometimes hard to parse - ultimately someone needs to put an image file in a directory...so I was hoping that you would just say yes or no - use [this one] when I asked you: Ah - so perhaps this: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_05.png ...is the logo you want, not the one I mentioned in my email: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Logo_white_04.png [Hoped for:] YES - use #5 [or] NO - use #4 But the reason I'm dragging this out even further is I got: About the logo, it's the blueberriest one we will want, variant 4 Aha so it's 4...but no, wait: the one we used in the marketing materials prepared for the Strawberry launch, variant 6: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/BoothBanners ...so it's...6?! So do you want 4 (like you said first above) or 6 (like you said second above) or 5 (like you said earlier since you want it to be one of the ones from the beauty shot that clearly doesn't have 4 or 6)? No, there wasn't marketing decided, it was Tomeu who thought of flavors, myself who thought of ice cream flavors (preferably fruit since natural wholesome sugars, a fun treat for kids), and sdziallas who agreed to the idea at the marketing meeting. Tomeu suggested exactly what he suggested, which was clearly NOT flavours: Cherry-Oak is not a flavour. You and Eben were talking about colours explicitly and nobody said _anything_ about flavours: [SeanDaly] [Eben] [Tomeu] Nota: my idea would be for each version to change the Sugar logo color too... potentially allowing troubleshooters to ask what color is the Sugar logo? and match that to the version number. I actually think changing the colors with each release is a pretty awesome idea. So awesome that it may solve the controversial issue of naming releases: Banana-Chocolate Sugar, Cherry-Oak Sugar, etc When I say marketing decided ice cream, I mean: 1) marketing came up with the idea: [11:16:41] SeanDaly So, why not name SoaS versions as flavors, based on the boot logo color? [...] [11:18:38] SeanDaly caroline: I think the ice cream metaphor can really serve us 2) marketing championed it [12:30:02] SeanDaly sdziallas: OK for SoaS v1 with a flavor name? [...] [12:30:44] SeanDaly I rather like strawberry as a first one, but i don't think we have a logo that color 3) marketing called the vote: [12:34:07] SeanDaly Can we go with logo 06 Strawberry for this release? [12:34:26] SeanDaly we can disagree all summer over the next one (joke) [...] [12:35:54] mtd strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:24] caroline strawberry +1 [...] [12:36:49] sdziallas strawberry +1 from me, too ;) 4) and marketing corrected me about the etymology :) It's certainly not worth the ink I've made you spill on it but it is nice to be able to say where the buck stopped with a given decision. If you don't want it pinned on you, ok :). The key takeaway is that marketing is not something that is tacked on at the end when something is ready for release, it's part of the development process. Sure, that's why we're having this discussion, right? But, again, there's no advantage to choosing the flavor/color beyond the next one. We should together pick the v3 flavor in a few months, not as a function of the 12 logos we have, but rather the catchiest and most fun one. Ok, I'm convinced. [marketing tips] Is this clear I hope? That marketing lesson was very clear and interesting - you should teach a course! thanks Sean Martin ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
Re: [IAEP] Spanish Translation request
Hi Caroline et all. Attached is a free translation please review it. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: The GPA school has a large spanish speaking population. We need to send a letter home to parents to get permission to collaborate with an academic study out of Pace university in NY. The school translator is very busy right now with school starting. Is there anyone who could translate this letter for me? Thanks! Caroline -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep Formulario de Consentimiento Informado para padres Se le ha invitado a dar su consentimiento para que su hijo participe en un estudio de tesis de doctorado de investigación conducido por Gerald Ardito, Candidato Seidenberg en la Universidad de Pace 'Escuela de Ciencias de la Computación. El estudio se llevará a cabo entre el inicio del año escolar y 31 de diciembre de 2009. Este proyecto de investigación ha sido aprobado por la Junta de Revisión Institucional de la Universidad Pace, y por el Director del Proyecto Piloto de de la Academia Gardner. Si usted tiene preguntas acerca de los derechos de su niño como un sujeto en este estudio, por favor comuníquese con el Dr. Brian Evans, de la Universidad Pace, 163 Williams Street, 11th Floor, New York, NY 10038, (212) 346-1248. El Asesor de Gerald para esta investigación es la Dra. Sandra flanco, Profesor de la Universidad Pace, Pace University, 861 Bedford Road, Pleasantville, Nueva York 10570, (914) 773-3653. Objeto del estudio: A su hijo se le está pidiendo a participar en un estudio de investigación del uso del software de azúcar (sugar) y cómo esta herramienta puede ayudar a remodelar el entorno de aprendizaje en el aula, especialmente en la promoción de la autonomía y la propiedad. ¿Cómo funciona el estudio?: Cada niño recibirá azúcar (SOAS sugar on a stick) en una memoria USB para su uso durante el año escolar y serán entrenados para utilizarlo. Sus profesores incorporaran el uso de este software en los planes de estudios y proyectos. (Esto es cierto si su hijo participa en el estudio o no. Su consentimiento significa que vamos a recoger datos sobre el uso del dispositivo por el niño). Durante el período del estudio, un conjunto de datos serán recogidos. El investigador y los profesores hablaran con los estudiantes en la escuela para hablarles de este estudio de investigación y pedir su disposición a participar en el. También pedimos que discuta este estudio con su hijo. Datos que deben recogerse: Los estudiantes serán examinados en el inicio del estudio para determinar su experiencia en el aprendizaje de diversas tecnologías. Ellos serán investigados de nuevo al final para determinar los progresos realizados. Además, durante el estudio, se llevaran a cabo observaciones en las clases, que pueden incluir audio y / o grabaciones en vídeo. Al final del estudio, una muestra de estudiantes serán entrevistados para examinar más a fondo el impacto que los dispositivos y su software puede haber tenido en su aprendizaje. Por último, vamos a examinar algunas muestras del trabajo del estudiante para ayudar en nuestra evaluación de azúcar en USB (SOAS sugar on a stick) . Riesgos previstos: No se conocen los riesgos y / o molestias asociadas con este estudio. El software azúcar se incorporara en el ambiente de aprendizaje del estudiante y en sus asignaciones. Beneficios previstos: Esta investigación será el primer proyecto para investigar directamente la función de estos dispositivos y su software en la reforma del ambiente de aprendizaje y para determinar si los estudiantes pueden desarrollar propiedad sobre su propio aprendizaje y el ambiente de la clase en sí. Al participar en este estudio, estos estudiantes y sus profesores están aumentando nuestros conocimientos sobre el uso de una tecnología única en un entorno educativo. Sus derechos, privacidad, y Bienestar Social: • La confidencialidad de los registros de la investigación de su niño será estrictamente mantenido mediante el uso de seudónimos y el almacenamiento seguro de su hijo la información personal. Sólo seudónimos aparecerá en el diario de campo del investigador y de otros registros. El nombre de su hijo aparecerá en este formulario de consentimiento. Sólo el investigador va a ver los formularios de consentimiento. Estos formularios de consentimiento se mantendrá en un gabinete cerrado, y sólo el investigador tiene una clave para este gabinete. Seudónimos se utilizará en todos los otros papeles. Usted no será identificado en los informes publicados. Todos los datos del estudio será destruido tres años después de la
Re: [IAEP] Spanish Translation request
Glad to help ;) Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: Thank you! I have sent it on to the school for review. Big help, we want to get this document into the big pile of things parents have to sign at the beginning of the year which apparently goes out on Monday. Thanks! Caroline 2009/9/9 Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com Hi Caroline et all. Attached is a free translation please review it. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: The GPA school has a large spanish speaking population. We need to send a letter home to parents to get permission to collaborate with an academic study out of Pace university in NY. The school translator is very busy right now with school starting. Is there anyone who could translate this letter for me? Thanks! Caroline -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] class filmed in Montevideo
This is a good result of OLPC-Sur community's work ! Felicitaciones Rosamel.- Rafael Ortiz 2009/9/6 Yamandu Ploskonka yamap...@gmail.com: (translated by Yama) Hello! Dear Colleagues: I selected you because you are those who can understand the effort that it meant to me to get to learn a skill and then teach it to my students, step by step, through trial and error, and sometimes through a thorny path, or rose scented, but not always predictable, because you were those who contributed their little grain of sand to grow a little more our computer-mathematical knowledge. I want to tell you that my class had the honor of being selected to represent the department of Durazno, for Ceibal, to go to Montevideo, with all expenses paid, on a LATU bus to work as we do it every day in the classroom (our valuable educational research laboratory) lugging the Ceibal laptop. There, after the children had copied the daily agenda, as they always do, with pencil and paper, they worked with Tortug Art and Tortug Art Portfolio, with the subject: How, when and why to apply the Pythagorean Theorem in the computer? solving a problem, and devising a grid for the carpenter, in the computer, to hang our loofah plants, which we will plant in Durazno. A girl came forward, and programmed the grid using the appropriate blocks, for all to see on the plasma. While it was just another day, because that subject had a before and after for them, they were very nervous, since some had never traveled to Montevideo. The second module was with Etoys, we made a page of a book whose focus is production cycle of loofah, emphasizing the concept of Macro Language: Communication, as it is shipped, the IC in the Project, Oral Etoys Radio which was presented at Squeakfest, Brazil 2009. We were congratulate and the work of children was applauded. I am delighted that we have been taken into account to be pioneers in the Ceibal channel that will air soon. That's all Best regards from Rosamel Ramirez Durazno, Uruguay rosamel norma ramirez mendez wrote: Hola! Estimados compañeros : Los seleccioné porque fueron y son los que saben valorar el esfuerzo que significó para mi llegar a aprender a hacer algo para luego enseñarle a mis alumnos, pasito a pasito, por ensayo y error, con camino espinoso y a veces perfumado por rosas, pero no siempre estable; porque fueron los que aportaron sus granitos de arena para que nuestro conocimiento informático-matemático, creciera un poquito más. Quiero contarles que tuvimos el honor de ser seleccionados para representar el departamento de Durazno, por el Plan Ceibal, para concurrir a Montevideo, con todos los gastos pagos, en un bus del LATU, a trabajar, como lo hacemos día a día en el aula ( nuestro valioso laboratorio de investigación educativa) llevando a cuestas la laptop del Plan Ceibal. Allí , luego de que los niños y niñas copiaron la AGENDA DIARIA, como lo hacen siempre, con lápiz y papel, trabajaron con Tortug Arte y Tortug Arte Portafolios, con el tema : ¿Cómo , cuándo y para qué aplicar el Teorema de Pitágoras en la computadora?resolviendo un problema, y diseñando una rejilla para el carpintero, en la computadora, para sostén de las plantas de esponja vegetal, que vamos a plantar en Durazno. Una niña pasó al frente, y programó la rejilla usando los bloques adecuados, visualizándose en el plasma. Si bien era una jornada más, pues dicho tema tenía un antes y un después para ellos, pasaron muy nerviosos, pues algunos nunca habían viajado a Montevideo. El segundo Módulo, fue con Etoys, hicimos una página de un libro , cuyo centro de interés es Circuito productivo de la esponja vegetal, haciendo hincapié en el Macro-concepto de la Lengua: Comunicación, ya que está incluido, el C.I. en el Proyecto, Radio Oral en Etoys que se presentó en squeakfest, Brasil 2009. Nos felicitaron y aplaudieron el trabajo de los niños. Estoy muy contenta de que se nos haya tenido en cuenta para ser pioneros en el canal del Ceibal que pronto saldrá al aire. Es todo Saludos cordiales de Rosamel Ramírez-Durazno, Uruguay ¿Aún no lo has descargado? Haz clic Internet Explorer 8 especial para MSN - ¡Gratis! ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Pilot in Berlin, Germany
As a related note Sugar Labs Colombia pilots documentation is going to live on the wiki: Some documentation produced so far (technical side): http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_con_fedora11_sobre_un_desktop http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_con_fedora11_sobre_el_classmate Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Simon Schampijersi...@schampijer.de wrote: Hi, some of you may know, I am doing a Sugar Pilot here in Germany. I try to keep my blog (listed on the sugarlabs planet as well) about my findings up to date [1]. For technical findings (how to setup nfs, ldap on Fedora for example) the plan is to use the wiki. 'Debatable things' I will try to bring up on the mailing list as well. Regards, Simon [1] http://erikos.sweettimez.de/ --- Categories: Sugar, Deployment and Teaching [2] http://planet.sugarlabs.org/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] project policy consensus
The policy is ok to me also. Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 12:44:48PM -0500, David Farning wrote: At the end of last week I posted a draft project policy[1] on the mailing list. It has not received any public or private criticism. Unless I hear otherwise, I'll post it to the wiki tomorrow with a 'draft' tag. david 1. http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2009-August/007993.html +1 In my mind it correlates with proposing ideas to Engineering Committee(since there wasn't clear consensus in ml thread for example) or more, it makes redundant existing of Engineering Committee in most cases. I mean that if there is agreement about mission statement of proposed feature(i.e. w/o any technical details of implementation) it will be much easier to find consensus with particular implementation. So, I'm waiting for final wiki page which I could use to formalize a couple of ideas for 0.88 release cycle. -- Aleksey ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Help activity was Re: deployment team meeting?
Hi Tomeu. On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 3:10 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 05:47, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrerodir...@gmail.com wrote: i agree with yama. Would be ok to put help icon directly on the main frame ? You mean the frame or the favorites view? I meant the frame. For older users with better trackpads and bigger screens, they may need help to find the frame ;) right. favorites view will be better then, and also transform it to connect directly with for example tools like launchpad, track and idea.sugarlabs.org ?. Any ideas about what the UI would look like? Not much, i'm not a good ui designer.=). Thanks, Tomeu Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:33 PM, Yamandu Ploskonkayamap...@gmail.com wrote: what about seeding Sugar with a more appealing access to Help, also in such a way that it also encourages feedback? (I already had pointed that the access to help has to be more visible to be useful, and then part of its functioning would be to encourage actual users to speak) Yama Walter Bender wrote: On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, would like to propose a meeting to talk about how deployments can provide better feedback and how we can process it so developers and the rest of Sugar Labs can prioritize their work accordingly. How does it sound? Thanks, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep Alas, this is the sort of mindset we are working with: Walter, We have continued working closely with the pilot school and have gotten a lot of insight into what the teachers want/need. Right now our calendar is pretty full so joining IRC meetings isn't really feasible. We will, however, pass on requests when it seems like there's a demand for something to help make the Sugar more relevant in the classroom. I hope that there will be more useful information come out of the NSF funded ICAC (Integrating Computing Across the Curriculum) grant that we are a part of. It will disseminate information related to findings in the schools and we'll be glad to let you know in advance when publications become available. Not convinced that better reporting tools are going to help with attitudes such as this. We need a way to get past the deployment gatekeepers and the academics and talk directly with teachers and students. -walter ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] deployment team meeting?
Sounds ok for me also :) Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Bastienbastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org writes: Nice to see so much interest, what about having it Wed 5 Sept at 13 UTC? Okay for me. -- Bastien ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] new technical list in spanish
The list was created to ensure and give the possibility to people that don't know English or are not to confident in it to participate in Sugar development, We'll hope that students and developers from all Spanish-speaking countries take the lead and begin to support the overall sugar development. Rafael Ortiz On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM, David Farningdfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 13:38, Luke Faraonel...@faraone.cc wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 07:15, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Please join if you would like to participate in discussions about Sugar development in Spanish. Won't this have the side effect of a segmented development community? It has all the downsides of creating a new mailing list. But given the low (almost null) participation in the existing mailing lists of the people who this new list is targeted, I think the benefits will outgrow the downsides. The education nature of the project is engaging many people who are not traditional open source contributors. This is an excellent out reach opportunity. On which list would consensus be authoritative? If someone is opposed to someone else doing something, then that feedback needs to reach that someone else. I see how this can get messy but unless we bar participation in the community of people who don't speak english, we'll need to find a way to cope with this. I'll do my best to continue writing in mangled English:( to help keep the bar low for non-native English speaker who might feel their ability to communicate in English is not up to par:) david Regards, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Systems] new mailing list requested: sugar-devel-es
Hi. I think this is a great opportunity to make the mail list, as some groups are starting to get momentum in Peru and Argentina , besides the actual and more mature groups on Colombia, Chile and Uruguay. Just a naming suggestion, sugar-desarrollo, instead of sugar-devel-es Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, several development groups are being formed right now in South America for developing for Sugar and we have thought that a mailing list in Spanish for developers would help all this people work together. Could we get one named sugar-devel-es with Gonzalo as the moderator? Thanks, Tomeu -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ Systems mailing list syst...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OCR?
I've heard good things about OpenCV http://opencv.willowgarage.com/wiki/ though i haven't use it yet. Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Edward Cherlinecher...@gmail.com wrote: I was at a presentation last week of Abbyy OCR software, which works on pictures taken by mobile phone cameras in more than 100 languages. The company wants to give away software (though not source code) in was that will get the company good publicity. So we are talking about using their software with the XO camera to read signs or full pages in books. Also whether we can add languages. This would mean making the OCR engine a separate download, the way we handle Adobe Flash. So is this likely to be worth the effort? Is there a Free Software OCR engine of adequate quality? Any other questions? -- Edward Mokurai Cherlin Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name, and Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] What to report where - Was Re: Sugar on a Stick switches to a new Bug Tracker
i'm not sure if we have to split soas and sugar bug trackers yet, if is usability and a better performance we are looking, and if lauchpad is better for that purpose we can translate all our bug infrastructure there.. IMHO we shouldn't split bug trackers between sugar and it's projects. Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 16:03, Caroline Meekscarol...@solutiongrove.com wrote: hmm ok let me see if I understand. Teachers, parents etc. who may have a hard time understanding whether they are reporting a bug on Sugar, Sugar on a Stick or an activity should use GetSatisfaction. SoaS Development team will use launch pad. People doing QA should put bugs into dev unless its a sugar on a stick only issue. Are we sure about this? Some bugs won't be clear where do they really belong until a developer looks at it, and SoaS people may also like tracking sugar-only bugs on their bugtracker. For example, Ubuntu tracks Debian bugs on their bugtracker and Fedora tracks GNOME, X, etc. Also, normally a bug in a downstream is not closed when upstream fixes it, but when it gets into a release on that downstream. Which is the biggest reason for splitting bug trackers, IMO. Regards, Tomeu Is that a correct restatement of what you want? I wonder if all questions should just go to GetSatisfaction. Is there an advantage to the LaunchPad questions section? I wonder if we are doing the right thing, is GetSatsfaction solving enough problems for us to be worth it? Its nice but it is yet another site...Does Launchpad have a Spanish UI available? On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com wrote: Hi Caroline, here's what I discussed with Luke over IRC. * Questions related to SoaS: Launchpad Answers Section * Issues encountered on SoaS (stressing issues here): Launchpad Bug Tracker (we can link a bug also to reports at other bug trackers!) * Feature Requests which target Sugar directly should go to dev.sugarlabs.org. Following this strategy, GetSatisfaction would be more intended for general end-user support, meaning people who run Sugar on no-matter-which-platform-or-distro. Launchpad should be SoaS-specific. I'll take some time today to put bugs into Launchpad and to migrate our feature list for v2 over there, too. --Sebastian Caroline Meeks wrote: Where do you want teachers interacting with you? Do you want me, and people I give clues to, to put questions into Launchpad or GetSatisfaction? Do you want me and others to try to guess if a bug is SoaS or Sugar or should we enter into Launchpad if we are using SoaS and let you decide to move it? What about activity related issues? What about activity related issues on SoaS, like an activity not scaling. Thanks! Caroline On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com mailto:sebast...@when.com wrote: Hi everybody, with the imminent release of the SoaS v2 Beta in just ten days, I would like to announce the switch to Launchpad as our bug tracker. We have been evaluating an instance Luke Faraone set us up with lately and are confident that it will fit our needs. The upcoming beta release is the first one intended to be used with this instance. More precisely, we will use it to track bugs, as well as new features. Note that this change only affects Sugar on a Stick, while the core Sugar bug tracker stays at dev.sugarlabs.org http://dev.sugarlabs.org. You can access and explore it here: https://launchpad.net/soas Thanks, --Your SoaS Team ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) i...@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- «Sugar Labs is anyone who participates in improving and using Sugar. What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David Farning ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world
Sean's point is important reminding us that when we talk of the Sugar user experience similar findings can be found on small deployments everywhere or in large deployments everywhere.. the differences are related to resources of hardware, electricity, networking and in general scalability of this resources (school server for example). Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Sean DALYsdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Just to clarify, when I spoke of studying a small deployment closely, I was thinking of both the GPA pilot and any other closely studied small deployment, which could be anywhere, including Nepal. Similar findings (e.g. first-time difficulty of quitting Activities?) in disparate conditions will be beneficial to everyone. Other findings will not; I expect developed-country schools to face gadget competition issues, where kids compare Sugar to their Nintendo DS interfaces, or netbook performance to fancy home computers. I am convinced most if not all large deployments have obtained feedback and some work in locating contacts and translating documents will be very beneficial for Sugar. If, of course, the conclusions of such studies are not trumpeted as OLPC failure fodder, but as information necessary to improve Sugar. I have experience running IT in infrastructure-challenged environments and I doff my cap to those who have to struggle just to get a Home View on a screen in front of a Learner. I think we can agree that obtaining, triaging, analysing and reporting feedback from all sources is an important yet undoubtedly difficult goal. Sean. On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Christoph Derndorfere0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: David Farning schrieb: And yes, Christoph I _am_ holding your writing to a higher standard. Several times, you have described yourself as the voice of the project. David, just for the record: I definitely don't consider myself the voice of Sugar Labs, that's just ludicrous and I can't remember ever making such a claim or acting accordingly. At the best of times I might be a voice of many and in this instance I decided to raise it to draw attention to the larger global picture that we're operating in. Some clearly seem to have understood that intention of my message. To smooth the ruffled feathers let me reiterate that I think we can learn many things from the ongoing efforts at GPA. However we mustn't believe that the findings will always be a representative reflection of the issues faced by the 1,000,000 other Sugar users around the globe. Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com e-mail: christ...@olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Systems] sunjammer: VM relocated back to old host
Relating aslo management, maybe we can ask mozilla folks about it? , would be nice to know how is their setup. Rafael Ortiz On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Bernie Innocentiber...@codewiz.org wrote: El Sat, 15-08-2009 a las 13:59 +0200, Luke Faraone escribió: On Aug 15, 2009, at 12:42, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: I enabled mod_mem_cache in the hope it will save some computation, but if it's not effective we might have to reduce the number of Apache processes and start returning 500 server busy errors. Maybe pipe downloads through the CoralCDN? It tends to be slow, but it'll save us bandwidth... We have plenty of bandwidth we don't use. Our actual bottlenecks are in interpreting PHP code and executing MySQL queries related to activities.sugarlabs.org. We're already employing all the current optimization tricks, including mod_cache, APC and memcache. There might still indexes we could add to speed up slow queries. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://sugarlabs.org/ ___ Systems mailing list syst...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/systems ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)
Also please share your ideas on have to better this feedback on the deployment team, meetings and wiki-pages. as a side note. we need also more feedback from XO deployments with Sugar, are OLPC and Countries willing to help ?. or just passing all the responsibility to SugarLabs?. I know that many of you can't answer that question..because we don't know actually how is the actual state of XO deployments with sugar..or yes?. Because regarding SOAS and small trials with Classmates or pc's, run by little local labs we DO have more information. As an example SugarLabs Co [1], is documenting all it's process on the wiki and also Sugar labs Chile [2] is beginning to do so. [1]http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Pedagogia/Talleres [2] http://cl.sugarlabs.org/go/Propuesta_Municipalidad_Huechuraba i also see every day feedback on the GPA pilot..both on mailists and on trac What about Peru and Uruguay ?. Because teachers working with us on OLPC-sur are only volunteers that don't seem to have access to information of the status of the overall project or less participate about it's direction. cheers!. Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David Farningdfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: David, Thank you, that is exactly the direction that we need to head! david On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:11 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: From my end, I can offer extensive feedback on Sugar usage in Andalucian schools, when we ship our next release in September. As this is a pretty controlled environment, we should be able to get some automated statistics. I'd love to hear some ideas on this. What could we install on the client sugar sessions to track things... perhaps, programs being used, length of time used, internet connectivity or not, etc. What I'm saying is, we could build some kind of statistic tracking into the computers as long as its not efficiency damaging or privacy violating... kind regards, David Van Assche On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] Or are you saying the feedback is getting through and I'm just not seeing it? We all seem to agree that feedback is important. We mostly agree that there is value in feedback from all deployments, big and small. We are currently getting valuable feedback from the field: Sur, the Ceibal blogs, reports from Nepal, Greg's reports from GPA, et al. We need more feedback and therefore we are exploring additional means of getting it. You ideas are welcome! -walter [snip] -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Pablo Picasso - Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] reporting bug and making recommendation on software
@foster fo me is ok to put a link there in a related topic. Is get satisfaction easy to localize or translate ? Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:16 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: We are exploring a new feedback site: http://getsatisfaction.com/sugarlabs Is it worth adding a link at getsatisfaction to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Contacts ? tony ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar in Chile
Congrats Werner! Rafael Ortiz On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Martin Seviormsev...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Werner Westermann werne...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to all. Patricio Acevedo left the audience shocked after presenting Sugar in the 2nd Innovation Workshop: The Creative Teacher, held in the Metropolitan Educational University, in Santiago, Chile. The workshop strives to present and share educational resources to support learning experiences builted by teachers, so Patricio deployed Sugar's creative potential for teachers and students. Many questions were asked at the end of the presentation (http://prezi.com/139914/), by an excited audience of pedagogical carrers students and professors. More details (in spanish): This presentation looks really stunning! :) It would be cool to translate it into english. I agree! I've never seen a presentation like that. What tool was used to make it? Cheers Martin ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar in Chile
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Martin Seviormsev...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Caroline Meekssolutiongr...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Werner Westermann werne...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings to all. Patricio Acevedo left the audience shocked after presenting Sugar in the 2nd Innovation Workshop: The Creative Teacher, held in the Metropolitan Educational University, in Santiago, Chile. The workshop strives to present and share educational resources to support learning experiences builted by teachers, so Patricio deployed Sugar's creative potential for teachers and students. Many questions were asked at the end of the presentation (http://prezi.com/139914/), by an excited audience of pedagogical carrers students and professors. More details (in spanish): This presentation looks really stunning! :) It would be cool to translate it into english. Hi Martin I agree! I've never seen a presentation like that. What tool was used to make it? the tool is prezi http://prezi.com/ Cheers Martin ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] activities
Regarding BotSpeak, speak has this feature implemented as the ''robot'' toolbar (before known as sara;)), maybe is better to follow the development from there ?. Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Aleksey Limalsr...@member.fsf.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 02:11:01PM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Wade, I posted the Quiz activity today. The git does not match exactly - I had trouble with push. I am looking forward to hearing from the team on the next steps in the release process. You can upload Quiz-1 to ASLO http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Authors and if its ready for broad audience, nominate it to the public http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Glossary#Nominated_activity otherwise just complete your activity http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Glossary#Completed_activity and email to sugar-devel@ to get feedback from users In the meantime, I am beginning to work on version 2. Yours, Tony Original Message Subject: [Fwd: activities] Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:46:27 +0200 From: Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net To: Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org, iaep iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Wade, I have finally posted the ShowNTell activity to ASLO. I hope to post the Quiz activity tomorrow. The BotSpeak activity appears to be redundant. The ShowNTell activity needs a help button to show how the activity works. It also needs lots of testing on collaboration. In the meantime, I hope to get some feedback. The Quiz activity in the second version will add the capability to create a quiz on the XO and to collaborate. Collaboration should be on the same model as ShowNTell (ClassroomPresenter). I tested both activities on SoaS at LinuxTag. In both cases there are coding changes needed. Is there an approved way for an activity to test whether it is on the XO (0.82) or SoaS? The currently posted versions will only work on 0.82. Please let me know if there is more that I can do to make a proper release. Tony Original Message Subject: activities Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:42:20 +0545 From: Tony Anderson tony_ander...@usa.net To: Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com Wade, I have been working on some activities which are nearly ready to post. Each of them is a significant change to an existing activity. The question is whether to treat the new versions as a different activity or a later version of the original. The first is BotSpeak.activity. This activity adds the pyaiml engine so that the 'speak' character can do more than echo the input. It's default mode is compatible with speak but there is an added tab to select a bot. It could be released as BotSpeak.activity or as an upgrade to the Speak activity. I lean to introducing it as a new activity - BotSpeak. The second is ClassroomPresenter. I have added the capability to create slide decks on the XO and the ability to add voice narration to the slides. This activity is an XO version of an ongoing project at Washington State. While there does not appear to be any ongoing support of the XO, this should probably be introduced as a new activity with deserved credit going to the team at Washington State. For a new name, I would propose ShowNTell.activity. This gets a little closer to the overall goal - which is to allow the student to create and narrate a slideshow of their own pictures. The third is ImageQuiz. I have added the capability to show other types of questions (e.g. simple flashcards, spelling test (voice clip prompt, text response, ...). It will also have the Leitner feature (questions answered correctly will be shown less often). Finally, it adds the ability to edit or create quizzes on the XO and collaboration based on the ClassroomPresenter model. Support for this activity appears dormant, so I think this activity can be released as a version upgrade. Please let me know what you think about this. Also, do we have someone who reviews these activities to ensure that the i's are dotted and t's crossed when it comes to licensing? I really have very little understandng of these issues. Tony -- Aleksey ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Conozco Uruguay on Activities.Sugarlabs.org?
Hi Activity approved Url: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4199 Release notes: Reviewer comments: This request has been approved. But this activity doesn't scale at all and at least on 1024x768 it looks a bit not useful. It would be great if you implement scaling. I'm also added 0.82 to supported Sugar Platforms list since it works fine on XO-767 environments. Thanks to Aleksey. Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Gabriel Eireagei...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Caroline: I have just uploaded Conozco Uruguay to activities.sugarlabs.org but it needs to get thru an editor before being published. By the way, I have been writing a tutorial on how to modify the activity in order to include different maps and questions. It is still in Spanish only, but if you want to give it a try you may find it in: http://drupal.ceibaljam.org/?q=node/46 You can create maps for other regions (for example the US), substitute the files using the same pixel dimensions and it should work. The names are self descriptive but they are in Spanish. I will translate the tutorial when I find some time to do it. I hope you find it useful. Regards, Gabriel 2009/7/13 Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com: Hi, I'd like to let the GPA 3rd graders play with Conozco Uruguay on Weds. Is there any chance someone could put it onto Activities.Sugarlabs.org for me? It would be easier for kids to find and it would also teach them how to get new activities. Its not a show stopper,we can have them find it on laptop.org but it would be nicer to have it on a.sl.o Thanks, Caroline -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] soas install to hard disk
Here is the english translation http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_en_CM/lang-en Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Hello this is another link that could be of reference.. Only in spanish for now. http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_en_CM Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, I'm forwarding this to some people who I heard yesterday in IRC discussing this issue. If anyone has had success installing SoaS to disk and could share their experiences, would be great. Thanks, Tomeu On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:28, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 09:21, Ashar Iqbals.ashar.iq...@gmail.com wrote: I have soas2 beta dated 14 April burned to a cd and booting/working fine on a PC. I now want to install the software onto the hard disk - cd is slow and temporary. hd would be faster and more permanent. I could run soas off a USB, but since the PC will be dedicated to running soas it makes more sense to use the hd. Hi Ashar, may be easier/better to download an official Fedora 11 image and install it to your hard drive? Then you can install Sugar and use that instead of GNOME. But it may be possible to install a Soas2 image to the hard disk with the command 'anaconda', though I haven't tried it myself. Regards, Tomeu Ashar ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] soas install to hard disk
Hello this is another link that could be of reference.. Only in spanish for now. http://co.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_en_CM Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi, I'm forwarding this to some people who I heard yesterday in IRC discussing this issue. If anyone has had success installing SoaS to disk and could share their experiences, would be great. Thanks, Tomeu On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:28, Tomeu Vizosoto...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 09:21, Ashar Iqbals.ashar.iq...@gmail.com wrote: I have soas2 beta dated 14 April burned to a cd and booting/working fine on a PC. I now want to install the software onto the hard disk - cd is slow and temporary. hd would be faster and more permanent. I could run soas off a USB, but since the PC will be dedicated to running soas it makes more sense to use the hd. Hi Ashar, may be easier/better to download an official Fedora 11 image and install it to your hard drive? Then you can install Sugar and use that instead of GNOME. But it may be possible to install a Soas2 image to the hard disk with the command 'anaconda', though I haven't tried it myself. Regards, Tomeu Ashar ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Government FAQ
Thanks for this effort Edward. One of the crucial things about deployments and implementations of educational technologies is finding ways to deeply impact government officials in other to get support from them in a country wide o regional massive laptops order. Some thoughts http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Grassroots_Organizations This page came out mostly of conversations between Bryan Berry and me. Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: Satish Jha just now asked me for help in answering Indian government questions about the effectiveness of OLPC programs. I sent him to the Wiki pages on Academic Papers and Educational Bibliography, and asked him to send me the questions governments ask him. I have a number of old communications about such matters from Nicholas, Walter, and others, and some of the appropriate answers, so I am going to start a Wiki page in a minute to collect the questions and answers. Eventially I intend to turn this into a White Paper that we can give to governments right from the beginning. Anybody is welcome to submit questions that government officials have asked, and whatever information satisfied their needs. -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.org/worknet (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Please help us choose a Sugar on a Stick boot animation sequence by tomorrow
FWIW + 1 Ring of dots :) Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Faisal Sadeq Khan o...@sadeq.me.ukwrote: +1 Ring of dots Best wishes. Faisal -- One Laptop per Child (OLPC) Opening new opportunities to children the world over. http://laptop.org/en/vision 2009/6/10 Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com writes: Ring of Dots http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#XO_Sugar_Boot_With_Overlap +1 -- Bastien ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ Marketing mailing list market...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/marketing ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Sugar Labs Colombia
Hello all. SugarLabs Colombia is now legally established! and we are going to tell you about what we have been doing. In the last months we have been consolidating works, making contacts, doing project proposals divulging, and seeking ways to bring the spirit of Sugar and free software to children in our country, trying to transmit our ideas (ideas that cheer us) to more people. Results have been very good so far. In this moment we have in our hands our first deployment escenario.Along with the bunaima fundation, we have a project approved by Bogota's secretary of education, for installing and using Sugar in 12 public schools: 7 from Ciudad Bolivar (María Mercedes Carranza, Rodrigo Lara Bonilla, Ciudad Bolívar Argentina, Bosco I, Rafael Uribe Uribe, Paraíso Manuela Beltrán y Buenos Aires) and 5 in other localities (Sorrento, Florentino González, Marco Fidel Suárez, San Pablo y Morisco). In these schools Sugar will be installed in informatics classrooms of primary grades. This step is the continuity of a process begun with 30 professors, which have been already trained on Sugar use. Now with the possibility of having installed software, we are starting our second phase: making a follow-up of classroom works using investigation projects as pedagogical tool. Next six months will be accompanying professors in their use of Sugar for classes development and we will be helping them with use of wikis, blogs ans LMS (i.e moodle) . towards the end of this process we hope that teachers will be an active part of Sugar's community and we hope to have results of projects made by children of these schools. Of course we are counting that this experience can be replicated on other institutions and schools of Bogota and Colombia. We will be telling you the advances and difficulties in this process. Regards, Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] spanish posts in the planet
+1 for having all the blogs together.. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: All together would be great (even including nepali from time to time, even though google will not help you translate it). SJ On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:35 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi all, recently have noticed the high quality of some blogs about Sugar that aren't aggregated in our planet, like http://www.fedaro.info/ , http://elingenioazucarero.blogspot.com/ and http://proyecto-ceibal.blogspot.com/ . What's people's opinion on having all sugar-related posts aggregated in the same planet? Fedora and GNOME mixes several languages, Ubuntu has separate planets for every local community. Personally I would vote for having all of them together. +1 I find myself running the SUR archives through translate.google.com nearly every evening. A nice easy way to machine translate planet to one's native language would be very handy. david And btw, can we make the amount of posts presented in the main page bigger? Regards, Tomeu ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: [Research] OLPC - Parsons Collaboration
FYI -- Forwarded message -- From: be...@beckyheritage.com Date: Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:19 PM Subject: [Research] OLPC - Parsons Collaboration To: resea...@lists.laptop.org OLPC Research Groups, On behalf of Parsons The New School for Design, I'd like to introduce myself. My name is Becky Heritage, and I am currently Faculty in the Design + Technology department at Parsons. We are interested in contributing for the OLPC through curriculum development for the unit and its activities. We also, have an interest in long term partnership. In addition to the Wikis and online resources we've been absorbing, we would also like to invite a representative from an Education based initiative, to meet our department and come speak at a Consortium that we host Wednesday evenings. Preferably, we'd appreciate perspective from someone that has deployment experience, as this is also one of our interests for contribution. If you could provide insight to any individuals that would be interested, it would be much appreciated. Sincerely, Becky Heritage Becky Heritage | Adjunct Faculty Design + Technology Parsons The New School for Design 2 W 13th Street New York, NY 10031 917 628 3901 be...@beckyheritgae.com http://cdt.parsons.edu ___ Research mailing list resea...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/research ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-03-24
Hello Walter and all. Thanks for the wishes, I'm ok now, i was in the hospital for 10 days and now I'm at home resting. It was a robbery and i got stabbed in the back resulting in my left lung getting compromised..it's a shame because the thieves were like 14-16 years old..in conclusion this situation gave me more strength to keep on working on SugarLabs == Education. enough said let's back to work! =) Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 9:55 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: ===Sugar Digest === I have been buried in meetings over the past few days, so I am a bit late in giving an update to the Sugar community. First, I want to wish Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero (dirakx) a rapid recovery. While I have been distracted, lots of great work has been happening: the Sugar on a Stick team is making great progress on the Fedora-11 port; the OLPC Learning Club held a pivotal meeting where they reached consensus about forming a Sugar Labs DC; progress is also being made in regard to a Sugar Lab in Peru; the Release Team has been cleaning a few outstanding bugs in 0.84.1; the community has been busy helping potential Google Summer of Code applicants refine their proposals; Sascha Silbe has been setting up a build farm for Sugar Labs; the Marketing Team has been reaching out to hundreds of more journalists about our new release; the Localization Team has been migrating the Pootle infrastructure to a new server; the Wiki Team has done a reorganization of the wiki in concert with the move away from CamelCase; and Sugar and Sugar Activities continue to be improved. A busy week. The big news is that thanks to the efforts of Jameson Quinn and Mel Chua, we have been accepted into Google Summer of Code 2009. We need to solicit and encourage as many great project proposals as we can in the next few days (applications are due April 3): the more students who apply to our program, the better our chances of getting more slots assigned. Please direct potential applicants to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/Student_application_template and http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development Team/Project Ideas. Thank you to everyone who has been answering student questions on IRC and on the mailing list. Tomeu Vizoso beat me to the punch by blogged about the great contributions being made by community members (See http://blog.tomeuvizoso.net/2009/03/what-keeps-me-going-on.html). One crude measure of the growing ranks of contributors is the steadily increasing number of people on #sugar on irc.freenode.net. We have been hovering around 100 lately. It is great to see both the continuity of long-standing contributors and the newcomers. The extent to which the veterans are being supportive of the newcomers (and my own barrage of naive questions) is a nice reflection on the project as a whole. ===Tech Talk === We had in impromptu meeting on IRC to discuss the outstanding issues in regard to future Fedora/Sugar support for the OLPC XO-1. The list of work items is shorter than I would have thought and many of these items already have teams of people working on them. We discussed as a reasonable target being able to release these items in time for Fedora 12. # mesh # activation security # Rainbow (activity security) # activity update control panel # power management # library for browsing content bundles # automatic display/keyboard language setting # special keys on the keyboard (brightness, audio, ..) # using USB keys in the Journal # olpc-update # customization key # lease security # UL warning screen at shutdown Tony Forster continues to work magic with Turtle Art (See http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/03/turtle-fileview.html). There is a new Sugar tutorial project (Please see http://tutorius.org/blog/the-first-iteration/). Martin Langhoff announced the availability of XS-0.5.2 this week: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/xs/ It fixes 3 bugs, the most notable one being the ejabberd @online@ roster issue. Sebastian Dziallas has made a new Sugar on a Stick snapshot available at http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/snapshots/2/Soas2-200903211320.iso and a virtual appliance image at http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/appliances/soas2-20090321.tar.gz Please test them. ===Sugar Labs === Gary Martin has generated a SOM from the past week of discussion on the IAEP mailing list (Please see http://wiki.suagrlabs.org/go/Image:2009-March-14-20-som.jpg). -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Community-news mailing list community-n...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/community-news ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: [Lf-announce] LinuxCon CFP Submission Deadline - April 1st
Maybe someone can submit a proposal related to Sugar ? Rafael Ortiz -- Forwarded message -- From: Linux Foundation eve...@linux-foundation.org Date: Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM Subject: [Lf-announce] LinuxCon CFP Submission Deadline - April 1st To: lf-annou...@linux-foundation.org ++Reminder - CFP submissions for LinuxCon 2009 are due by Wednesday, April 1st, 2009++ LinuxCon is taking place September 21-23, 2009 in Portland, OR and is co-located with the Linux Plumbers Conference. LinuxCon will provide an unmatched collaboration and education space covering all matters Linux, and including everyone in the Linux community including developers, end users, sys admins, community and more. We are accepting proposals for Developer, Operations and Business tracks for a wide range of topics, including: Application Development Packaging, Cloud Computing, Clustering and High Availability, Desktop, Embedded Mobile Technologies, Emerging Technologies, Enterprise Linux, Green Linux, High Performance Computing, Kernel Development, Legal, Linux in the Current Economy, Linux in Government, Politics and Education, Low Latency Real-Time, Migration to Linux Open Source, Netbooks, Networking, Security, Server Management Monitoring Techniques, Storage Filesystems and Virtualization. Please note that papers are *NOT* required for LinuxCon. Speakers are only required to submit their slides so that they can be made available online for LinuxCon attendees. The Linux Foundation will also be assisting speakers with travel funding - please mention in your CFP submission if you require travel assistance. Please submit your speaking proposal here: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact us at cfp (at) linuxfoundation dot org. Thank you. Linux Foundation Events Team and LinuxCon Program Committee To unsubscribe: https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/options/lf-announce ___ Lf-announce mailing list lf-annou...@lists.linux-foundation.org https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lf-announce ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [Lf-announce] LinuxCon CFP Submission Deadline - April 1st
Nice! thanks Edward Rafael Ortiz On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe someone can submit a proposal related to Sugar ? I submitted one that includes textbooks based on Sugar. Rafael Ortiz -- Forwarded message -- From: Linux Foundation eve...@linux-foundation.org Date: Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:13 AM Subject: [Lf-announce] LinuxCon CFP Submission Deadline - April 1st To: lf-annou...@linux-foundation.org ++Reminder - CFP submissions for LinuxCon 2009 are due by Wednesday, April 1st, 2009++ LinuxCon is taking place September 21-23, 2009 in Portland, OR and is co-located with the Linux Plumbers Conference. LinuxCon will provide an unmatched collaboration and education space covering all matters Linux, and including everyone in the Linux community including developers, end users, sys admins, community and more. We are accepting proposals for Developer, Operations and Business tracks for a wide range of topics, including: Application Development Packaging, Cloud Computing, Clustering and High Availability, Desktop, Embedded Mobile Technologies, Emerging Technologies, Enterprise Linux, Green Linux, High Performance Computing, Kernel Development, Legal, Linux in the Current Economy, Linux in Government, Politics and Education, Low Latency Real-Time, Migration to Linux Open Source, Netbooks, Networking, Security, Server Management Monitoring Techniques, Storage Filesystems and Virtualization. Please note that papers are *NOT* required for LinuxCon. Speakers are only required to submit their slides so that they can be made available online for LinuxCon attendees. The Linux Foundation will also be assisting speakers with travel funding - please mention in your CFP submission if you require travel assistance. Please submit your speaking proposal here: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/cfp If you have any questions please don't hesitate to contact us at cfp (at) linuxfoundation dot org. Thank you. Linux Foundation Events Team and LinuxCon Program Committee To unsubscribe: https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/options/lf-announce ___ Lf-announce mailing list lf-annou...@lists.linux-foundation.org https://lists.linux-foundation.org/mailman/listinfo/lf-announce ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Silent Thunder (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) is my name And Children are my nation. The Cosmos is my dwelling place, The Truth my destination. http://earthtreasury.net/ (Edward Mokurai Cherlin) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Moon-9, almost (Re: [Sugar-devel] addons.sugarlabs.org is starting to work)
It's now working quite well. Thanks Tomeu and David. Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 17:51, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: As part of /bin/build.py there is a .js add .css minimizer. It must be screw up. I think that we need to replace the minimzed .js and .css with upstream's and turn off the minimizer. It was screwed up because of: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/287035 Now seems to work fine. Regards, Tomeu 2009/2/21 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org: On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 08:49, Wade Brainerd wad...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, it seems like a lot of the buttons on the site do nothing when clicked right now. I just encountered the same problem. Looking at it right now. It works in addons-devel, so I suspect that the tricks for minimizing access to .js files are breaking production. Tomeu On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.com wrote: On 18 Feb 2009, at 15:04, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: Hi, as the site is becoming more functional, we are in need of feedback before we direct there the masses. Could activity maintainers register and upload their last activity bundles? Please try to also upload at least one screenshot, the site will be much prettier that way ;) OK giving up for the night :-( I've merged and built a new moon-9 with aslroots very kind addition of resolution independent scaling code, but I can't get it uploaded to a.sl.org, I thought it was a Safari browser issue, so I tested with Firefox as well, but no luck. I get as far as: http://addons.sugarlabs.org/en-US/developers/addon/submit But the 'Get Started' button does nothing. Game over. Any hints welcome, but will need to wait until tomorrow for me wake up and try again. Regards --Gary P.S As a member of the ActivityTeam, I am rather embarrassed to have to ask what I should now do with the Moon-9.tar.bz2 file that fell out the back of ./setup dist_source (couldn't see any ActivityTeam wiki suggestions for how to officially publish Activities other than the links to addons). I'm not officially part of any (confusingly) named, temporally aligned, carbohydrate molecular substrate, but am very happy to provide the source code somewhere formal if it makes distro packager lives easier. Thanks, Tomeu ___ Sugar-devel mailing list sugar-de...@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] RFC: Supporting olpc-ish Deployments - Draft 1
Hi all. Thank you Michael and Pia for this.. I have to say that although these questions and concerns are indeed needed , they are only counting one side of the history, like asking what would be the best for OLPC to give or the resources that OLPC can give..this is bad centered, OLPC deployments need more independence, the deployments run by governments need to have straightforward relations with the volunteers, and volunteer driven small deployments need more independence to manage it's own resources and address and resolve the concerns and questions stated here. If the deployments manage to have more independence from OLPC central, i can assure you that OLPC resources wouldn't be so needed as they are now, and can be focused in other tasks. SugarLabs is taking this focus for it's deployments, to have federated Local Labs with some common ground rules but with the possible maximum independence. This independence guarantees real empowerment, distribution of task and efforts, it's not only what SugarLabs can give to Local labs but also what Local Labs can give to SugarLabs, in my opinion and experience this is the best way that SugarLabs can support deployments. For more info: http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam http://sugarlabs.org/go/Local_Labs Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Michael Stone mich...@laptop.org wrote: Folks, Pia Waugh (greebo) and I have spent a fair bit of time in the last month talking and thinking about what we can do in the next few months to best support present and future olpc-ish deployments (typically with XOs, typically running Sugar) and we'd like to share some of our thoughts with you. These thoughts are presented in draft form in order to solicit your feedback, which is eagerly awaited, and will likely be incorporated into future drafts. Regards, Michael -- 1. Motivation We think that many deployment-related needs are not being adequately met, particularly in the areas of: * knowledge-sharing and the ability to benefit from others' mistakes. * volume and quality of aid available for conducting deployments. * bandwidth, latency, and SNR of channels to other communities which work with deployments; e.g. other deployments, educators, software teams, distributions, researchers, consultants, and volunteers 2. Use Cases We're particularly interested in addressing these situations and needs: D1) I'm running a deployment... a) ...and I need help! Who shares my problem? Who can help me? b) ...and I want to do more! Who/what can I work with? c) ...and I want to share! Where do I go? What is needed? D2) I need to talk to people deploying XOs. a) Where do I go? b) What can I expect? D3) I'm working on a deployment plan. a) Where to I start? b) What have I forgotten? c) Am I using best practices? d) Can I get a review? D4) I need to know... a) real deployment numbers, b) maps, c) examples, d) photos, e) techniques, f) contact info, ... 3. Existing Resources for Use Cases Before we started, there were three basic mechanisms for addressing these use cases: 1) read the Deployment Guide and the Deployments page(s): http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_Guide http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments_support 2) ask olpc-techsupp...@laptop.org. (Only available to large deployments?) 3) poke people on IRC. These three mechanisms are problematic because none of them can be relied upon, alone or in combination, to adequately address any of the use cases listed above. 4. New Resources for Use Cases So far, we've created two new resources which help bridge the gap: 4) weekly deployment support meetings, with minutes at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_meetings#Meeting_notes which get aggregated each month into 5) a Deployment FAQ, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployment_FAQ similar in form and spirit to the G1G1 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Support_FAQ We think that these two new resources, in combination with the pre-existing resources, will help us provide the next level of support for our use cases. 4. Projects We presently have several ongoing (interrelated) projects which you might like to become (more deeply) involved in: P1) Keep improving the deployment support meetings -- so far, so good! -- your participation in these meetings is our best current source of new content for the Deployment FAQ and for... P2) Organize material captured in the meetings as FAQ entries -- the meeting minutes are chronological, which is good for minutes, but not particularly
Re: [IAEP] addons.sugarlabs.org
Yes, the original name was activities.sugarlabs.org, i find it much better.. Cheers! Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Ivan Krstić krs...@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu wrote: On Feb 13, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: http://addons.sugarlabs.org is up and running I expected this to be activities.sugarlabs.org, since the choice of 'addons' comes from Firefox and isn't part of the usual Sugar vocabulary, no? -- Ivan Krstić krs...@solarsail.hcs.harvard.edu | http://radian.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Static services for Local Labs
Hello all. I was thinking that maybe Sugar Labs could host, cms like drupal or joomla for Local Labs use, Would be this an overhead for our young infrastructure ? Is it better to Local Labs to have this kind of solutions sorted out locally ? Cheers! Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Static services for Local Labs
Yes, I guess there is no problem with this, with the already given infrastructure give by SL is more than enough. Local Labs are independent enough to manage to have other services. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 18:29, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Maybe the issue here is that local labs have a much broader scope than the global Sugar Labs? I agree completely. Hopefully the local labs will focus in on a particular area of the sugar ecosystem. A testing lab, a deployment support organization, educational content development As such they will dive much deeper into a particular area then sl can. I see local labs having something to say about everything that the global Sugar Labs does, but not the other way around. Yes, but this discussion is about what services SL will provide for the local labs. Local labs can do whatever they want, upstream SL has to make hard decisions about which 'things' we can 'afford' to support. At this point in terms of infrastructure we can offer local labs: email account, mailing lists, a instance of our existing wiki setup. Anything else become to much work for our already overwork infrastructure team. This ends up being very similar to the deployment support issues we are facing. We are facing some hard issues about how we can _best_ use our limited resources to improve the entire Sugar ecosystem. Right, that was the point I was trying to make: the SL's infrastructure is likely to not serve all the needs of all the local labs. Regards, Tomeu Sorry for misunderstanding your point. So many people and organizations have been asking us for support since the changes at OLPC that I am getting prickly about the issues:) david David Regards, Tomeu On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 17:35, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your thoughts on this, I was thinking in a cms not for communication fork but for presentation fork. Anyway we are still too young, but for the future we might want to think in having this static solutions in place. (i.e when we have people that can work on maintaining the infrastructure needed etc). Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org wrote: I see your point about CMS being overkill. And I also agree with you, the release cycle anchors everything. I for one consider it a bug, not a feature, that we have this division of channels of communication, as some of the aspects you relate should be feeding each other more. It is natural because of the different workflows, however I'd like to see some convergence. I'm studying the possible use of a social networking platform (pretty much deciding on http://pinaxproject.com/ ). If I can tweak it to fit our workflows (I'm working with local village visiting teachers to fit theirs) - in particular, i'm interested in including some sort of disconnected use (that is, for instance, getting them a news/mailing list/new activities feed from the social network with a USB monthly, and provide them with a way to respond - can be email - can be manually performed once online. This is likely also the tool that will help manage the Bolivia deployment (but we will likelly have some more connectivity in Bolivia). Looking forward to share more as things develop, looking for feedback / synergy. Sebastian 2009/2/11 David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org I tend to think that a cms is a bit of overkill for a young organization. One of my personal long term goal is to determine how we can clone SL in Local SLs by reproducing the best practices of SL on a more local scale. Developer side: 1. The key component is the release cycle, ever thing else is anchored around the release cycle. 2. Dynamic communication through mailing lists and irc. 3. Static communication through wiki and bug tracker. Any thing else is overkill Educator side: 1. Release cycle - cool new features, bug fixes 2. Moodle - teachers know moodle david On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero dir...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all. I was thinking that maybe Sugar Labs could host, cms like drupal or joomla for Local Labs use, Would be this an overhead for our young infrastructure ? Is it better to Local Labs to have this kind of solutions sorted out locally ? Cheers! Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo
Re: [IAEP] partner brainstorming
+1 Speaking of which, we should also be thinking in rules of give-get from each partner, stuff like gold, silver..etc partnership. Would be nice to hear about how other .orgs manage these rules. My two cents. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:22 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: I know this sounds very unlike me. I am a big fan on actionable items:) Can you'all help brain storm about possible partners with which Sugar labs can have a mutually beneficial relationship? Early adopters in education, OEMs, VARs, ISVs Let's hear your list of organization and thoughts as to how we can help each others. An initial point of contact would be most helpful. thanks david ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Fwd: New Partner Challenge Launched: UC Berkeley Mobile Challenge
FYI Rafael Ortiz -- Forwarded message -- From: Amy Sample asamplew...@techsoupglobal.org Date: Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:54 PM Subject: New Partner Challenge Launched: UC Berkeley Mobile Challenge To: Amy Sample Ward asamplew...@techsoup.org NetSquared is pleased to announce a new Partner Challenge with U.C. Berkeley¹s Human Rights Center. This Challenge encourages innovations for mobile technologies in human rights investigations and advocacy. Winners will receive cash awards to implement their Projects. Submissions open on Monday, February 2, 2009 and run through March 13, 2009 at 3 pm PST. To view the complete details and participate, visit the UC Berkeley Human Rights Mobile Technology Challenge page: http://www.netsquared.org/hrc-ucb Thanks, Amy -- Amy Sample Ward Global Community Builder NetSquared - a project of TechSoup Global Twitter/Skype: amyrsward Email: asamplew...@techsoup.org Mobile: (+44) 079 5058 4699 http://netsquared.org Twitter: netsquared ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Mobilis
In a related note..The famous (but yet not seen) 10$ laptop. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Rs_500-laptop_display_on_Feb_3/articleshow/4049914.cms http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1226142 The news say, they will show the prototype on February third- Cheers! Rafael Ortiz On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.orgwrote: Tomeu Vizoso wrote: have pasted in the wiki some links I already had about the Mobilis: http://sugarlabs.org/go/Mobilis Who is in contact with them? IMO, is the closest that anybody has gotten to the XO, by reading the specs and looking at the images available at those links. Indeed. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Getting Involved
What people think about adding a deploy type Role ? A deploy-type is the one that with different kinds of skills both technical and not technical, pedagogical and not pedagogical, deals about sugar deployments and it's success on different countries worldwide... Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Gary C Martin g...@garycmartin.comwrote: Hi Caroline, On 21 Jan 2009, at 15:06, Caroline Meeks wrote: How about combining Developer, Web Developer and Administrator into one and adding Educator Hmmm, developer and web-developer are pretty different skills/tasks to fold into a role, I was actually in mind that really the developer role should be split into core-developer and activity-developer as the skill/knowledge sets can be so different (a teacher is unlikely to be a core-developer, but hopefully very likely to be an activity- developer). I agree that an educator role is an obvious add, but in reality I'd want to put just about every other role skill under educator as I think we need educators working in all roles! Anyway, perhaps having educator skills/knowledge pushing all roles is enough; here's a quick stab at a possible Educator role text (please do make some edits!!) Description of this role: Focus on Sugar's educational needs. Skills you possess or want to learn: Explaining complex ideas well, people skills, teaching through digital objects, understanding of educational theories and obstacles, paedagogy, ability to communicate with and influence develkopers. Teams associated with this role: EducationTeam, ActivityTeam, DeploymentTeam Tasks typical in this role: Lesson plans, teacher guides, text book templates/samples, articles, leverage Sugar as an ideal platform for learning, provide guidance and feedback to those working on technical aspects of Sugar, setting educational goals. For the record, from feedback so far (and my own opinion) leans me in the direction of adding 3 new roles; an educator role, a testing-QA role, and splitting out a separate activity-developer role from the core-developer role. Anymore for anymore? :-) --Gary I think technical people are more clueful about what their skills are and will click through to the next page where we can spell out specific skills and specific tasks. I think we need to be explicitly welcoming to Educators. I think a teacher looking at the current page would not know where to click. Caroline On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 9:22 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote: Gary, your work on http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/GettingInvolved is TOTALLY AWESOME! Thank you very much for taking care of it. -- // Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ \X/ Sugar Labs - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove carol...@solutiongrove.com 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] [overwhelming victory] grassroots campaign at OLPC-Sur
We are victorious yes..:), but this is for LA. We still are lacking a more united overall (worlwide) community representation to the OLPC board of directors. Rafael Ortiz On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.orgwrote: The proposal has been passed with an overwhelming victory: http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_b21b2c0fdce694adhttp://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/%7Eandru/cgi-perl/civs/results.pl?id=E_b21b2c0fdce694ad Yama has his first meeting in a few minutes with Rodrigo Arboleda, in full representation of OLPC-Sur. We are discussing further steps to community consolidation and participation. Input is welcome. Congratulations Yama, we welcome your initiative and put our full support behind you. Sebastian 2009/1/14 Sebastian Silva sebast...@fuentelibre.org: Fellow Grassroots Volunteers: A vote is going on *right now* regarding the following proposal, which I human-translated because I think its important. Also, some of you may be subscribers at OLPC-Sur and thus have received a ballot. I'll quote Yama on that one: Please vote! If you haven't voted because you disagree, vote negative! If you think it does not correspond you, whether because you don't want to hear from OLPC anymore, or are a foreigner, or don't live in Latinamerica, plese, vote abstention! The ballot has a subject that says: CIVS Poll now available for voting: Definir OLPC Latinoamérica Make sure it didnt go into your junk mail if you're subscribed. Here's the proposal: To present a united front before Nicholas Negroponte and Rodrigo Arboleda to achieve the participation of the OLPC Latin America Community in decisions affecting the work of OLPC in Latinamerica. A clear position in favor of Free Software as an integral and exclusive part of this educational project. I personally commit to support this position in the community, locally, nationally, in the Sur list, and other forums. Provisionally, and until we the community can decide for an alternative, but in no event past the 28th of february of 2009, I support Yamandú Ploskonka acting as representative of the OLPC Latin America community for these ends. This nomination and other positions hereby indicated must be confirmed by majority vote of the latin american community at the Sur list. I urge you to vote. Let's not be monkeys. Sebastian -- Sebastian Silva Laboratorios FuenteLibre http://blog.sebastiansilva.com/ ___ support-gang mailing list support-g...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/support-gang ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] OLPC: Refocusing on our mission
Hi It's always hard to hear these announcements. What i can do on my part (and also i guess i can speak for all my other companions in Colombia), is keep on working voluntarily for OLPC and Sugar Labs, and try to find ways to grow together..to make things sustainable. OLPC has been like a home and a school to me, it's sad that they are facing bad times, but they can count on me always to do whatever i can do to help. Sugar labs it's now the place of my heart..Sugar it's conceptually what I've been looking for a project, and obviously I'm devoting a lot of time to it, to help in make the concept reality because i see every day the need for tools and oportunities to enhance education. Sometimes i get very sad seeing kids having poor or not education at all, and i wish they could have the oportunities that i've got to know and to understand the power of colaboration and free and open knowledge, because they are the ones that will be in charge in the future. In conclusion we have to keep on working more and more, because entire generations of children are in need of learning fundamentals to do a real change in this already damaged world, and i guess the world cannot afford to have more wasted generations. Just crazy thoughts.. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 4:18 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Christoph Derndorfer e0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: http://blog.laptop.org/2009/01/07/refocusing-on-our-mission/ Frankly speaking I'm currently not quite sure what to make of this announcement except for the realization that Sugar Labs and the larger Sugar community are now officially on their own when it comes to making Sugar the best learning platform there is! What are your thoughts on these developments? I would like to offer a _heart_felt_ thanks to everyone at One Laptop Per Child who has made Sugar and the XO the products that they are today. You still are at the forefront of a revolution in learning such as the world has not seen since the invention of the printing press. But, this revolution, as with all revolutions, is hard to plan; there are no maps, there is no rule book, there is no gray bearded sage to guide your way. Thank You David Farning Sugar Labs ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] teams vs. projects
In my opinion we should use a customized trac for project management, i don't like to have too many resources to take into count, we already have the necessary ones (Trac, mediawiki..moodle) The Gantt plugin it's a good solution there. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Sameer Verma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 10:19 AM, Bernie Innocenti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sameer Verma wrote: dotProject (http://www.dotproject.net/) and Project.net (http://www.project.net/) are good candidates. They are both FOSS, although I haven't had much luck locating Project.net's FOSS license. Their Bus. Dev. guy tells me that the next release will be GPLv3. dotProject is marked as other/proprietary license on SourceForge. Actually dotProject is under GPLv2 (http://sourceforge.net/projects/dotproject/), while Project.net is marked Proprietary/other. Project.net is under commercial open source license, whatever that means. I did not get a clear answer out of their Business Dev VP. He kept talking in circles and finally said that the next release was going to be GPLv3. Redmine (http://www.redmine.org/) seemed like a promising clone of trac more oriented towards project management. Yes, I remember Bryan Berry (OLE Nepal) mentioning it a while back. I proposed evaluating it some time ago, but the developers are too used to trac to consider switching. Trac does have a Gantt module written in Python (http://willbarton.com/code/tracgantt/) and we looked at it a while back for SF State. We use Trac for managing our iLearn (branded Moodle install) system and wanted some PM charts such as Gantt. We found the granularity provided by this module to be too large to be useful. It tracks milestones instead of tickets. Maybe someone here could hack it to make it more suitable. cheers, Sameer -- Dr. Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Associate Professor of Information Systems San Francisco State University San Francisco CA 94132 USA http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://opensource.sfsu.edu/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Proposal: IRC channel and mailing list for support
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 5:45 PM, Luke Faraone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 17:39, Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is the cgi::irc package that the OLPC forums are using: forums.laptop.org/chat Yes, but in my opinion Mibbit is easier to use for new users, and has the bonus of not requiring us to host it ourselves. +1 although i wonder if one can customize the embedded widget? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Meeting reminder (Deployment team)
Ok Meeting postponed then ;). Rafael Ortiz On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Make sense to me. Marco On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. As Walter can't come and we have community meeting at the same hour, also taking into count that Walter's reports are essential on this discussion , I propose to do this meeting next Wednesday. same time, same place. would be that ok ? Rafael Ortiz On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alas, I'll be over the Atlantic at 14UTC on Wednesday. I have lots to report re all three discussion topics, so I'll plan to join the next meeting. regards. -walter On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello We will be having our Deployment team meeting this wednesday at 14:00 UTC (irc.freenode.net (channel: #sugar-meeting) Here is the proposed agenda. http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/Meetings#2008-11-19_meeting Everyone is invited to come ;). See you there. Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
[IAEP] Meeting reminder (Deployment team)
Hello We will be having our Deployment team meeting this wednesday at 14:00 UTC (irc.freenode.net (channel: #sugar-meeting) Here is the proposed agenda. http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/Meetings#2008-11-19_meeting Everyone is invited to come ;). See you there. Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] [sugar] Meeting reminder (Deployment team)
Hi david This one http://sugarlabs.org/go/Sugarcamp/Schedule#Wednesday_the_19th Rafael Ortiz On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:41 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Which community meeting? david On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone. As Walter can't come and we have community meeting at the same hour, also taking into count that Walter's reports are essential on this discussion , I propose to do this meeting next Wednesday. same time, same place. would be that ok ? Rafael Ortiz On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:37 PM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alas, I'll be over the Atlantic at 14UTC on Wednesday. I have lots to report re all three discussion topics, so I'll plan to join the next meeting. regards. -walter On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello We will be having our Deployment team meeting this wednesday at 14:00 UTC (irc.freenode.net (channel: #sugar-meeting) Here is the proposed agenda. http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/Meetings#2008-11-19_meeting Everyone is invited to come ;). See you there. Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ Sugar mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Requiring to send out a meeting agenda
Hello Marco. Deployment meeting is scheduled for november 19, per: http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTea/Meetings#2008-11-19_meeting we will send an agenda before it happens, and agree with you, we should always send an agenda before the meetings if not the meeting is not going. cheers!. Rafael Ortiz On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hello, I propose that we make sending out an agenda for all of our meeting a required step. We was supposed to have a Deployment meeting today, people came for it, but it didn't happen. That really sucks imo and we should be careful about not repeating it. I'm sure this will happen less often as we get more organized... But I think a the meeting is not happening unless an agenda has been sent out policy would be helpful. We would have to make that clear in the wiki though, since we have a calendar there. Marco ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Logo (Re: Sugar bug tracker now available)
Hello Cafepress seems the easiest way from what i've seen. :). Rafael Ortiz On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:49 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Christian Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on the t-shirts, should have something early next week. Where are we printing them? Any thoughts? cafepress maybe? Not an expert at all... just what I've seen used most. Marco ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] todo list
Hi David et all. Nice to do list. For now im helping with this part Local Support Organizations We have a number of organizations who are interested in becoming associated with Sugar Labs as Local support organizations: Columbia Peru Pakistan Talk to SFC about what limits membership in the SFC imposes on SL's ability to create local support organizations. In particular, is it possible for a LSO to do work-for-hire as 'Sugar Labs - Location' Start discussion on IAEP about establishing LSOs. If approved by SFC, start discussion about doing work-for-hire at SL. Pro- Good source of self sustaining revenue. Con-Would SL directly engaging in work-for-hire cause a conflict of interest with our members and partners. The discussion is in here.. http://sugarlabs.org/go/Regional_Sugar_Labs please Join regards. -- Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar Talk to Chilean's Edu-ICT National Program
Hi luis On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 10:55 PM, luis ACEVEDO [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: As we communicated last week, we exposed Sugar and it's activities to Enlaces, Chilean's Edu-ICT national program (http://www.enlaces.cl/). We described generally the project and it's features and future implications, through a brief presentation: http://www.slideshare.net/wernerio/sugar-interfaz-y-recursos-para-educacin-bsica-20-presentation After that we used the Sugar LiveCD, updated this september 19th, showing various resources and activities. These were selected intentionally, related to the K-3 level of the official curriculum. http://www.curriculum-mineduc.cl/curriculum/programas-de-estudios/educacion-basica/ After showing activities as Moon, FlipStick, Speak, we scoped in showing e-Toys (Challenge, DemonCastle demo), Scratch, Dr. Geo features, wanting to demonstrate the power of create/edit the resources. This led to many concerns around the appropiation/control in teachers. Another concern: many questions arose around the connectivity features. what are the specific concerns that arose in those items? Outcomes: we where happy to have the presence of the Enlaces Director, who was excited and curious, so we motivated to considerate Sugar as a end-user solution to a ICT dotation program for K-3 public schools, to be deployed next year. Any advance, we will be happy to communicate them. Congratulations and good work!. -- Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Teacher in OLPC-Sur list enchanted to see his idea integrated, into global Sugar update [First approach] (luis ACEVEDO)
Hello, On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: There are still a few loose ends to tie with the Turtle Art modification. I am trying to make it into somewhat of a case study that can be hopefully a catalyst not just to rote imitation but also to some deductive or model-based thinking about thinking. Also, the exercise has raised a few questions for me about our process that I hope to address/document. I realize that teachers don't have time to be developers, but I aspire that everyone will move towards all kinds of appropriation. Alas, I wish that OLPC had included the chapter on Modifying Sugar in their Help activity... -walter I get the feeling from the field that a guide for customizing and modifying Sugar would be very beneficial and fun for kids and teachers, also would be a good tool to appropriate the technology. Kids are always asking about ways to make the computer more like them ;). On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 12:10 PM, luis ACEVEDO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Greg: TurtleArt-11.xo worked perfectly. My report with teacher´s comment, screenshoots, and pedagogical support (only in spanish) here: http://patricioacevedo.blogspot.com/2008/09/mi-reporte-para-sugar-labs.html I want to try this features: 1.- A Beep function in TurtleArtwithsensors. 2.- A easy way for to write Hello word. I received a report about uruguayan´s kids writing letters with the turtle´s lines, but this way is slow and not fun. Thanks Pato Acevedo www.patricioacevedo.blogspot.com Hi Luis, I believe that Walter updated TurtleArt with a square root function to address this. Was that a satisfactory response? Let us know how that worked for you and the people who requested it. Any comments or input appreciated. What else do teachers and users need? Let's see if we can address some more requests and start to improve the quality of the dialog at the same time. Walter, Essentially the same questions for you. Did that go the way you wanted? I get the impression you wanted teachers to modify the code themselves. Maybe you can elaborate on that. Perhaps you could have asked if anyone wanted to learn how to do it. In the cycle of praxis, there's the action and the reflection. If we're done with the action on this one (still want to hear the final ack) then a little reflection may be in order until we pick the next small challenge. At the same time we can think about what tools work best to address these in the future. I didn't see the bug ID come through dev.laptop.org but I may have missed it. I assume IRC didn't work for Luis either... Thanks, Greg S Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:24:27 + From: luis ACEVEDO [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IAEP] Teacher in OLPC-Sur list enchanted to see his idea integrated into global Sugar update [First approach] To: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello: My name is Luis Acevedo, live in Santiago, Chile. I participate actively in the mailing list OLPC-Sur and is closely monitoring the mailing list Sugar Labs. Yesterday in the Sur- List we had a report about a required feature for Turtle art activity. This is root square function. Teachers found necessary this function in activities like figure 28 and others from this page http://neoparaiso.com/logo/ejercicios-de-geometria.html I suggested to obtain a ticket trac in http://dev.laptop.org/ and to try in the irc channel. Is there a other way like to contact directly the authors? Is this a correct place for this questions? I feel it is a first opportunity to move from discussion to action. Thanks in advance Luis Pato Acevedo www.patricioacevedo.blogspot.com www.ucpn.cl Lo que hay dentro de ti es lo que cuenta - ¿Qué tipo de atleta eres? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Sugar Talk to Chilean's Edu-ICT National Program
Hello Werner. On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Werner Westermann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Regards from Santiago, Chile. Next monday 29th, Sugar will be presented to authorities and proffesionals of Enlaces, Chilean's governmental Edu-ICT National Program. We are scoping to place Sugar as an alternative to a national program that will bring ICT resources to K-3 level next year. This presentation will be held by Pato Acevedo, who you already know in this list for his e-Toys contributions (http://patoacevedo.oamm.info/wordpress/). Also myself, who was asked by Enlaces to generate a deployment project for OLPC, but was sadly unsuccessful (http://www.olpcnews.com/countries/chile/free_xo_laptop_children.html). We are working in some deployment guides for Sugarl in Sugar Labs wiki, i hope you can contribute to the team. http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam We are both participating in Educalibre (http://www.educalibre.cl/), a recently formalized 4 year old Edu-ICT community as a ONG. We hope to contribute from here to Sugar deployment and development. Best wishes, Nice to have you in the community. -- Werner Westermann Juárez ONG Corporación Educalibre http://www.educalibre.cl (+562) 632 3660 (+5609) 7 805 7501 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] What is a member?
Regarding time. I have only a comment that is in the debian side of things, for example if one is a debian developer, this ''title'' goes for live. And also (afaik) you remain with your @debian.org mail even though you don't maintain packages or you have cease to do contributions to the project..anyway this is still in discussion. (pls if someone knows this process in detail you can correct me). On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 1:09 PM, David Farning [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I have been hand waving around this issue for the last couple of posts in the hope that we could reach consensus on the structural issues before facing this potentially emotional issue. The membership question has three axis: depth, breadth, and time. How extensive should a persons contributions be to earn membership? How broadly do we define contributing to the project? How long does it take to earn membership? How long are membership terms. At the end of the day, the question distills down to, What is the cost/benefit ratio in terms of governance, recognition, fund raising, and defense of being inclusionary or exclusionary with regard to membership across the three axis of depth, breadth and time. 1. Depth. There examples of successful projects at both ends of the depth of membership criteria. At one end , Fedora[1] has settled on a very inclusive mechanism where everyone who applies becomes a member. On the other end, the apache foundation[2] has a more exclusive membership policy. New members must be nominated and voted on by the current membership. 2. Breadth. Successful projects exist at both ends of the breadth continuum. At Debian membership is earn through the 'Debian Developer Process[3]' as a result, the membership is very developer centric. At Ubuntu[4] , a member is 'someone who's made a substantial contribution to the Ubuntu community -- of any type --'. This results in a very broad community. 3. Time. I was unable to find any large FOSS projects which set term limits on membership. Many project's periodically request that members in good standing renew their membership or are dropped from the rolls. As always, questions, comments, and discussion is welcome. I will try to have rough draft membership guidelines ready to submit to SLOB by Friday. thanks dfarning 1 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board 2 http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html 3 http://www.debian.org/devel/ 4 http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] membership definitions
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, Some comments inline: David Farning wrote: 2. Membership Requirements Membership is earned either through the efforts of an individual or through the annually payment of dues by organizations. 1. Individual Individual membership is a sign of merit in the Sugar Labs ecosystem. It is a sign of significant and sustained involvement in Sugar Labs. Generally, at least two months of visible, significant activity will be required. How do you decide what involvement is OLPC-specific and what parts involve Sugar Labs? I have a personal interest in Sugar Labs, but its relationship with OLPC is somewhat confusing to me. [snip] 1. Membership Duration and Renewal 1. Individual Individual Membership is for Life. In order for an Individual membership to remain valid, It must be renewed every year. I don't thing 2 months of involvement should grant you a life or yearly membership. What would be your propossal for that then ?. :) Pol -- Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos Graduate student Viral Communications MIT Media Lab Tel: +1 (617) 459-6058 http://www.mit.edu/~ypod/ http://www.mit.edu/%7Eypod/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Rafael Ortiz ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
Re: [IAEP] Moving forward with logos and corporate identity
Hi On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Christoph Derndorfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, it's been a while since we discussed the various Sugar Labs logo ideas (http://sugarlabs.org/go/UITeam/Logo-ideas) and I wanted to get back to this discussion as I feel it's a very important one when it comes to Sugar Labs' corporate identity. My favorites from the current designs (in no particular order) are: http://sugarlabs.org/go/UITeam/Logo-ideas#Simplified_versions http://sugarlabs.org/go/UITeam/Logo-ideas#Building_Blocks http://sugarlabs.org/go/UITeam/Logo-ideas#Letter_blocks My favorites are these http://sugarlabs.org/go/UITeam/Logo-ideas#Simplified_versions http://sugarlabs.org/go/UITeam/Logo-ideas#Introduce_.22Lab.22_visual_element.3F The first one it's by far the proposal with more work put on it. The second one needs more work but it's a nice idea. Maybe this topic is also something to be discussed at the next Sugar Labs IRC meeting? +1 Cheers, Christoph -- Christoph Derndorfer Co-Editor OLPCnews, http://www.olpcnews.com ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep -- Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero One Laptop Per Child [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
