Re: [IAEP] Is "Most Sugar Users Use XO Laptops" True?

2016-04-24 Thread forster
Does anyone disagree with the assertion that "most Sugar use is in a school/classroom setting"? Hi The two largest OLPC deployments, Peru and Uruguay account for 50% of XO laptops. Peru, 60% of use was in school [1] Uruguay home use > school use [2] Uruguay was 100% take home, Peru had a

Re: [IAEP] Introduction of myself

2016-01-06 Thread forster
Hi Alex If you want to lodge a request on Trac its https://bugs.sugarlabs.org/query?component=Sugar+on+a+Stick+(SoaS) Tony What feature request? I don't keep up to date with the fedora community, but there have definatly not been any recent localisation discourse on sugar-devel or iaep.

Re: [IAEP] [SLOB] November meeting reminder

2015-11-02 Thread forster
I think 8pm Boston is 1am Tuesday UTC. Tony Where: irc.freenode.net #sugar-meeting (chat.sugarlabs.org) When: Monday, 2 November 23:00 UTC (Boston 8PM*) [1] Who: Sugar Oversight Board and Sugar community members What: Discussion about membership and the upcoming election, the new website

Re: [IAEP] More Sugar Numbers.

2015-03-23 Thread forster
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 09:28:51AM +0300, Dan Tenason wrote: Some more interesting Sugar and XO numbers. At the site https://www.one-education.org/   OLPC Australia is reporting that 2,370 out of 42,329 phoned home. I can't find those numbers on that website. Do you have a link Yes

Re: [IAEP] Hackaton on eduJam 2013, Paraguay, October 13

2013-09-13 Thread forster
Hola I will be at Edujam. I am in Paraguay 7-13 October. I would like to discuss Android at the hackaton. Tony In the context of the next eduJam [1] in Paraguay, we plan do a hackaton. Who plans be there, and what topics do you would like discuss/hack? Gonzalo [1]

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2013-08-22

2013-08-23 Thread forster
Hi Spirituality for Kids seems to be closely associated with the Kabbalah Center. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah_Centre Tony On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:35 PM, James Simmons nices...@gmail.com wrote: Walter, Several points in your digest got my attention. First, I like the

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Persistance For Downloaded Activities: How To???

2013-04-25 Thread forster
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 05:07:36PM -0700, Caryl Bigenho wrote: I am customizing some XO-1s for an elementary school. When I download extra Activities, how do I get them to persist without having to keep them in the Journal? For some reason, one machine does this. The Activities remain

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar future

2013-04-13 Thread forster
Martin Sorry, compatibility not transition. Tony On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 11:21:26AM +1000, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Thanks to everybody who has contributed to the discussion so far, particularly to Sean for his well researched post on Android developments. The choices as I

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar future

2013-04-13 Thread forster
1 Android kernel + Ported linux libraries + Sugar 2 Android kernel + Datastore/Collaboration replacement + Sugar rewritten in HTML 3 Full Android + Datastore/Collaboration replacement + Sugar activities rewritten in HTML 4 Full Android + Datastore/Collaboration replacement + Sugar activities

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugar future

2013-04-12 Thread forster
Thanks to everybody who has contributed to the discussion so far, particularly to Sean for his well researched post on Android developments. The choices as I understand: 0) Do not have an Android transition plan 1) A suite of Activities with a common look and feel but leave things like file

Re: [IAEP] OLPC-SF February meeting

2013-02-23 Thread forster
Hi A little English language documentation on the Butia is: http://www.fing.edu.uy/inco/proyectos/butia/mediawiki/index.php/Main_page_%28English%29 Tony For all those who were at the OLPC SF meeting today, Andres Aguirre tells me that the CAD design will be updated in a few days to the

Re: [IAEP] Questions for SCaLE 11X

2013-02-20 Thread forster
1) What is the latest total number of XOs of all types deployed around the world, including developer machines, G1G1, large deployments, and small deployments.? (The wiki says 2 million as of March 2011� two years ago.) At the top of http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Deployments There are

Re: [IAEP] Factorisation visualisation was Sugar Digest 2013-01-25

2013-01-27 Thread forster
Alan even better thanks Tony I change the .ta to this automatic version that begins in 1 and continues.. see .ta attached.. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

[IAEP] Factorisation visualisation was Sugar Digest 2013-01-25

2013-01-26 Thread forster
http://www.datapointed.net/visualizations/math/factorization/animated-diagrams/ Beautiful, thanks for sharing. If anyone does code this up, please allow for stepping (rather than playing) and allow kids to enter numbers and factors, so they can guess and look for patterns. Or kids could

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] About to teach Python programming

2013-01-12 Thread forster
Hi As a beginner, I found creating a Sugar Activity difficult. More difficult than creating a program to run from Terminal or Pippy. You might get better value using Pygame and writing something that can run from Pippy. The goal could be to create more Pippy built in samples. If you are going

Re: [IAEP] public log of Activities being started Re: [SLOBS] SLOB meeting on January 7

2013-01-09 Thread forster
Thanks I did not realise that it was all self reported data, I assumed that there was Journal data too, my Spanish is not good enough Tony Thank you, Tony Unreliable? IMO most definitely, if the goal is to figure out *actual* use Alas, you are probably correct in that there is no better

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Questions about the new XO Tablet and Software

2013-01-09 Thread forster
Thanks Mike Maybe Sugarlabs should be developing for Android as a longer term strategy. It looks like the future of kids educational computing is with Android tablets. Can the Sugar Activities be ported to Android or is it back to the beginning? Would it be better to concentrate on just

Re: [IAEP] public log of Activities being started Re: [SLOBS] SLOB meeting on January 7

2013-01-08 Thread forster
do you think it were possible to somehow push into the server (and then up to the Internet) suitably anonymous data that tells at least what activities have been started (at least a count within a timeframe, say, every week)? As part of this cloud effort? Reason: After all these years,

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Off-topic (sorta) Need help opening Raspberry pi case

2012-12-01 Thread forster
some Pi ideas http://tonyforster.blogspot.com.au/ Hi Guys... My raspberry pi arrived yesterday and I want to put it into the little clear plastic case I got for it. Ed and I have both tried toopen it with no luck. We don't want to break it. If anyone on these lists has one, can you tell

Re: [IAEP] users doing python in XOs

2012-12-01 Thread forster
Hi Show source functions are greatly improved in later Sugars, there is a dropdown menu in the frame which can show (a) the encoding of the 'document' (b) the source of the Activity (c) Sugar source What is its effect on users? Only a very small percentage of users will use this beyond

[IAEP] activities (games) recommended age

2012-11-28 Thread forster
Hi Pedro The main target audience for the XO laptop and Sugar is primary school, grades 1-6. Younger children will have difficulty using a computer. Many of Sugar's Activities are usable by older children, I think Sugar still quite suitable for grades 7-8. Older children may find the Sugar

Re: [IAEP] Emulating Alice in Turtle

2012-11-17 Thread forster
And the guys in the US can do amazing stuff while we are asleep in Australia :) And a TA project to interact with Alice... -walter On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote a bit of Python glue [1] so that you can load the Alice engine into

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Sensor Experts: I need help with my shopping list!

2012-10-14 Thread forster
Caryl Temperature (thermister). Which of these will work best? www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/category/770/Thermistors/1.html You want the resistance at 20C, 70F to be very roughly mid way (in terms of voltage) in the measurement range of the XO. This gives the best range and accuracy.

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] It's Time to Sign Up For Sensors!

2012-10-12 Thread forster
Thanks Mike These 2 links use the 3 terminal device LM35D, its advantage is that its output is linear and calibrated, its disadvantage is that it requires +5V from the USB socket http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157631756048008/with/8081515681/

Re: [IAEP] Turtle Blocks question

2012-10-06 Thread forster
Hello all. Thanks for all the support with this project. At Tony's suggestion, I downgraded the XO-1 to build 883 (11.3.0), and the the We Do works fine in TurtleBots. Walter shared his new We Do plug in, which worked fine with Turtle Art 160. Thanks. Gerald Hi Maybe though, the Sugar

Re: [IAEP] Arduino and XO-1

2012-10-04 Thread forster
Gerald Maybe the baud rate or the device name do not match. Somewhere in the Arduino plugin code it searches for ttyusbn where n=1,2,3 ... Your Arduino board could be ttyusbn or ttyacmn where n increments each time you replug the Arduino. Somewhere, I think /dev , you can see what your

Re: [IAEP] Arduino and XO-1

2012-10-04 Thread forster
When I do the grep, I get nothing returned. When I go into the /dev directory, there is nothing ttyUSBn. What do I do now? Gerald Hi Just tried a Arduino Duomillenove on 2 XO-1.5, one running os373pyg Sugar 0.88, the other os883 Sugar 0.94 first dir /dev, get a long list of devices

Re: [IAEP] Arduino and XO-1

2012-10-04 Thread forster
Alan, Upon doing some research, apparently /dev/ttyACM0 is the identifier for the board. Do I have to modify the plugin? If so, how do I do this? in my blogpost i give a link to a dirty hacked version for ttyACM0 This version http://www.box.com/shared/bsf8tmj6al is hard coded to

Re: [IAEP] [Sur] TI MSP430 running on XO 1 - Robotics!

2012-10-03 Thread forster
Gerald Thanks for the update. I just this link to a project using the TI Launchpad as a robot brain: http://e2e.ti.com/group/microcontrollerprojects/m/msp430microcontrollerprojects/496334.aspx I am going to give it a try. I have just got my MSP430 launchpad and am planning the next step.

Re: [IAEP] [Sur] TI MSP430 running on XO 1 - Robotics!

2012-09-27 Thread forster
You can have arduino IDE too with a yum install arduino I believe. Peter Yes, it worked for me http://tonyforster.blogspot.com.au/2012/01/arduino-and-xo-laptop.html Tony ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] What Sensors and Where To Buy?

2012-09-21 Thread forster
PIR Motion Sensor - Easy-to-use motion detector with an analog interface. Power it with 5-12VDC, and you'll be alerted of any movement. Can be connected to the OLPC XO microphone input and the USB socket for power. See

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] What Sensors and Where To Buy?

2012-09-21 Thread forster
Kevin wrote What your explanation makes clear is why people typically pay 3rd parties to develop educational material with pre-tested sample circuits and included parts. The average teacher will not have the expertise to just find a sensor, make a circuit, connect it, use software like

Re: [IAEP] What Sensors and Where To Buy?

2012-09-20 Thread forster
Hi For the thermistor I used a TDC05C247 thermistor, Specifications: NTC (Negative Temperature Coefficient) Thermistor Operating temperature range: -20 Celsius ~ +125 Celsius Maximum power rating: 500mW Nominal resistance at 25 Celsius 4.7k ohms

[IAEP] XO video from Australian school

2012-09-15 Thread forster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08rBCczTT94 Tony ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Ma�ana Dia del Software Libre, Tomorrow Software Freedom Day

2012-09-14 Thread forster
Saludos, Greetings We are celebrating Software Freedom Day in Melbourne Australia 110 Grey Street East Melbourne from 10am, Saturday OLPC laptop demonstration, all day OLPC/Sugar talk at 11:45am Tony Saludos a todos, Con motivo del Software Freedom Day, quiero invitarlos a todos, amigos y

[IAEP] (no subject)

2012-09-13 Thread forster
http://www.technologyreview.com/view/429206/emtech-preview-another-way-to-think-about EmTech Preview: Another Way to Think about Learning Why I hope kids in Ethiopia can teach the rest of us something profound about education. Nicholas Negroponte Thursday, September 13, 2012

Re: [IAEP] evolution or revolution? .....android+sugar+doors = oui?

2012-09-12 Thread forster
Hi David You have written a wide ranging piece which is difficult for me to respond to comprehensively, please permit me to respond to just a few points. 1) Working against school systems Though Sugar/OLPC are unashamedly constructivist/constructionist, I don't think it is accurate to

Re: [IAEP] something to aspire to...

2012-01-13 Thread forster
Game programming languages such as Game Maker handle collisions fairly well. Unfortunately Game Maker is only available for Windows and Mac. The sample Superball at http://www.rupert.id.au/schoolgamemaker/samples3/ simulates inclined planes and Newton's Cradle fairly well though I did need

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Sugarized Sound Speed

2012-01-13 Thread forster
Yes As predicted, Measure's stereo input on the XO-1.5 worked and the biggest problem was the triggering http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3vKVTW1LQA Tony On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 5:26 AM, Dominik Granada dgran...@frks.pl wrote: Hi, did anyone try to repeat Ch. Stoll sound wave measurement

Re: [IAEP] [Testing] I would like feedback on the ''How_to_use_the_IRC_Application'' wiki page

2011-12-13 Thread forster
Tom Yes the smaller screenshots are better as per James' suggestion. It is good if you can show the tooltip and manually add a cursor which shows the next step. I have edited the first screenshot to show what I mean. (You might want to redo it though to get consistent colours and size) I have

Re: [IAEP] [Sur] Teachers ask programmers / Maestros preguntan a Programadores

2011-11-30 Thread forster
Carlos Thanks for your comments. Walter will reply but meantime here are my thoughts. The reason I brought up the Circle-the-Cat game http://www.members.shaw.ca/gf3/circle-the-cat.html was not to discuss its value as an educational program. Yes, understood, but it did trigger an idea for a

Re: [IAEP] Teaching with computers / Enseniando con Computadoras

2011-11-20 Thread forster
Carlos, you ask: * Are we willing to take that risk waiting for Sugar or should we propose alternative solutions to the authorities? * What is more important, free software or the education of the children who are attending school today? My answer is that we should consider alternative

Re: [IAEP] C�dula de Identidad Uruguaya - D�gito de Control / Uruguayan ID Card - Control Digit

2011-11-08 Thread forster
Carlos The checksum calculated in TurtleArt http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2011/11/turtle-checksums.html Tony English Text Follows Spanish Text Pensamos este podr�a ser un tema interesante para un proyecto usando algunas de las aplicaciones en las computadoras del Plan Ceibal.

Re: [IAEP] Need To Know: How to get the latest Help Activity on Macs and PCs???

2011-10-26 Thread forster
Valerie Flossmanuals is a wiki. Walter indicated that is where he was editing. It is the source of the help files, I think. Flossmanuals is where I would prefer to do editing. I was just replying to a request by Caryl in supplying this data. Tony Question - Wikis are designed for

Re: [IAEP] Need To Know: How to get the latest Help Activity on Macs and PCs???

2011-10-25 Thread forster
Caryl To edit the Help Activity in Windows #download the help sugar bundle use this link - http://activities.sugarlabs.org//en-US/sugar/downloads/latest/4051/addon-4051-latest.xo #unpack the sugar bundle rename help-13.xo to help-13.zip open help-13.zip copy the directory Help.activity to

[IAEP] Adding git to Sugar platform?

2011-10-21 Thread forster
(added IAEP to the distribution because this is more about the education than the tech) simon wrote: Ok, the reason why I brought this up is that git is one of our main tools for development and if we ever want kids to start developing... The idea that including git has educational

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-10-11

2011-10-11 Thread forster
.. The only activity shipped with Sugar is a very old version of Turtle Art./ Plan Ceibal installed that Sugar 0.87.1, (on Ubuntu 10.04.3) because they didn't Know that TurtleArt Runs on Ubunto+Gnome, they think that running Turtle Art under Sugar is the only Way to install it.

Re: [IAEP] La Magallanes MG2 tiene aceler�metros.. �como los podemos usar?

2011-10-10 Thread forster
Spanish translation follows The accelerometer works in Turtle Art because the XO-1.75 operating system makes the data available to Activities in /sys/devices/platform/lis3lv02d/position If the Magallanes MG2 operating system also does this then the accelerometer should work in Turtle Art. If

Re: Re: [IAEP] La Magallanes MG2 tiene aceler�metros.. �como los podemos usar?

2011-10-10 Thread forster
On this Computer I don't have the device called /sys/devices/platform/lis3lv02d/position I don't Know where can I look the accelerometer I Zipped the whole /sys/devices/ directory here: http://mediagala.com/borrar/devices-magallanes_MG2.zip If it works like the XO then you are looking

Re: [IAEP] [somos-azucar] Cursos Creados Por Mentores y PorVoluntarios

2011-09-28 Thread forster
Here is an English language synopsis of Manuel Vargas Alegria's detailed and insightful post in Spanish (my apologies for any misrepresentations) Manuel raises 3 arguments from education research literature: 1) ICT is transplanted into the education systems of developing countries rather than

Re: [IAEP] [somos-azucar] Cursos Creados Por Mentores y Por Voluntarios

2011-09-27 Thread forster
Thanks Carlos The fact is that Sugar has many problems. Most of the education software available through the large number of XOs distributed has been written by computer experts without any consultation or feedback from the educators that specialize in the 6-to-11-year-old students for

Re: [IAEP] SD Card Expert Needed

2011-08-24 Thread forster
Hi When you install an Activity, the xo bundle, which is a zip file, is unzipped and copied to /home/olpc/Activities The Activity is installed when you click on a xo bundle or download or copy (maybe?) a bundle to the journal. Deleting a xo bundle from the journal depends on your build, on

Re: [IAEP] Help needed..

2011-08-13 Thread forster
I have not had a chance to replicate the issue yet, but what I did was start writer then go to neighborhood and try to invite the other PC. I expected an invite on the other PC but nothing. this might help, if you are using a wifi access point for the networking, skip the first 2 steps

Re: [IAEP] Proposed New K-12 Science Framework

2011-07-26 Thread forster
the new K-12 Science Framework published by the National Academies of the United States. https://download.nap.edu/catalog.php?record_id=13165#orgs Thanks Caryl The first dimension, 1. Scientific and Engineering Practices gives lots of opportunities Its emphasis on *data collection and

Re: [IAEP] St. Vincent and the Grenadines

2011-07-13 Thread forster
Does anybody know what this announcement means? Did they merely put the page up before it was ready? http://education.gov.vc/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=125Itemid=107 Their home page shows that they have already distributed 2000 of some other kind of netbook with a blue

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs: account confirmation

2011-06-29 Thread forster
Hi Valerie, Valerie Taylor vtay...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to access the course: Introduction to XOs for the classroom. It needs a key for access. I have sent a Moodle message to Liddy Nevile - listed as the teacher for this course. You could try http://laptop.moodle.com.au/

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs: account confirmation

2011-06-29 Thread forster
What is the objective of these Moodle courses? Were they created for specific audiences? Would it be ok if others who are interested in Sugar access them? I could have this wrong, I would need to view the moodle resources, but I believe that it is a clone of a Moodle course done for OLPC

[IAEP] ''Narrative Interfaces'' at OLPC

2011-06-18 Thread forster
Hi I did some work on writing a text based dungeon program. The dungeon file is purposefully plain text and can be easily edited by kids in Write. http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Tonyforster#Text_dungeon The idea was that kids develop literacy and numeracy skills by creating dungeons and

Re: [IAEP] OERs and collaboration

2011-05-13 Thread forster
Valerie Thanks for the helpful comments. A problem of educational resources developed by an open source community is that people have 'scratched their own itch' and there are lots of disconnected education resources but little overall structure. This is not a criticism of the community,

[IAEP] Free laptops all very well but ..

2011-05-11 Thread forster
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/free-laptops-all-very-well-but-how-best-to-use-them-in-testing-times-20110511-1eitv.html initiatives that focus primarily on the provision of computers are not successful because the computers aren't used to their full potential ... Putting computers in

Re: [IAEP] Infra-red photography with the XO camera

2011-03-18 Thread forster
Anish If someone can get the night mode on the camera to work, it might turn out to be an interesting experiment ;-) I was able to alter the camera controls, crank up the gain and get to the noise limit but may not have enabled a specific 'night mode' http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2651

Re: [IAEP] Tour of Uruguay / Vuelta Ciclista del Uruguya

2011-02-28 Thread forster
Thanks I have linked at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vuelta_a_Uruguay Tony Respondo a la reciente solicitud de ideas para proyectos relacionados con la pr�xima Vuelta Ciclista del Uruguay: S042 - Entendiendo la Bicicleta

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2011-02-23

2011-02-24 Thread forster
9. We had a preliminary brainstorming session regarding what types of projects we might do in conjunction with the Sugar Labs cycling team's participation in the Tour of Uruguay at the end of April. Read about it here: [[http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Vuelta_a_Uruguay]]. Google translate:

Re: [IAEP] What kind of jack can you use for sensors?

2011-02-16 Thread forster
I am working on a project where kids will measure tempature and humidity as part of testing and designing solar stills. What kind of jack do I need to connect to my sensors? I assume I plug it into the microphone jack and that should work with the Etoys World Stethescope. Steve You need a

Re: [IAEP] Need to find usb Microscope under $50 for XO

2011-02-10 Thread forster
Caryl explore features for the water/health lessons some of us are working on for Haiti. You can also use the XO to measure salinity http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors#Measuring_Water_Salinity Has anyone else used one with an XO? If so, what kind?

Re: [IAEP] Need to find usb Microscope under $50 for XO

2011-02-10 Thread forster
Just a single convex lens of short focal length gives impressive results http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors#Microscope Tony Does anybody know how Mary Lou Jepsen fitted plastic lenses to an XO and used it as a microscope? Aha! here it is.

Re: [IAEP] World Bank Apps for Development

2010-12-16 Thread forster
Has anyone from the Sugar community considered making an entry to the Apps for Development contest? http://appsfordevelopment.challengepost.com/ A requirement is that the application use a data set from the World Bank. This might make it difficult to make something for children, but

[IAEP] World Bank Apps for Development

2010-12-16 Thread forster
Has anyone from the Sugar community considered making an entry to the Apps for Development contest? http://appsfordevelopment.challengepost.com/ A requirement is that the application use a data set from the World Bank. This might make it difficult to make something for children, but

Re: [IAEP] newtechh...@coppell and Etoys info needed

2010-11-20 Thread forster
Caryl I am interested in hearing more of your project, what would the math games look like? What is the skill level of the programmers? How was Scratch inadequate for their needs? Two alternatives to consider are Turtle Art and Pippy/Pygame. Turtle Art, like Scratch is very 'low entry', its

Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-uruguay] Iconitos de red

2010-11-19 Thread forster
Carlos, translating: The book is Mindstorms, Children, Computers and Powerful Ideas Mindstorms Children, Computers and Powerful Ideas http://www.amazon.com/Mindstorms-Children-Computers-Powerful-Ideas/dp/0465046746

Re: [IAEP] XO-1.75 microphone socket

2010-11-16 Thread forster
Scott Thanks for your comments. As this is now more a discussion on education, I have copied to IAEP. Background for the IAEP list: Suggested experiments for using TurtleArt with external sensors are at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/TurtleArt/Using_Turtle_Art_Sensors The

Re: [IAEP] Getting to BIOS (was Boot SoaS on Windows machines? Help!)

2010-11-11 Thread forster
Here's a Start, just add yours to the list: Getting to BIOS eeePC 701 F2 eeePC 900 Esc Dell Inspiron F12 Award Bios Del LanParty bios ctrl alt esc Instructions are usually displayed on the screen but you have to be a fast reader Advice from a 17 year old: just press

Re: [IAEP] Ask! Please! (Re: how to ask a question)

2010-10-08 Thread forster
Quoting Edward Cherlin echer...@gmail.com: I have a partial draft of a textbook on the subject at http://www.booki.cc/discovering-discovery/ It encourages XO owners to explore on their own and find out what questions they have before we give them answers. I like the idea. It encourages users

Re: [IAEP] Suggestions Needed!

2010-10-08 Thread forster
Hi You might get some ideas from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Walter#Libre_Planet_talk or http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Tonyforster#Software_Freedom_Day_Melbourne_2010 Tony ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] First evaluation results from OLPC Peru

2010-10-01 Thread forster
As to be expected - based on my own experiences while I was in Peru as well as talking to a lot of people who've worked there in the past - these first results aren't particularly great. Thanks Christoph Is there an English language version, Google Translate is a bit of a mess. Some of the

Re: [IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?

2010-09-28 Thread forster
Interesting More on visual and text programming languages http://www98.griffith.edu.au/dspace/bitstream/10072/24250/1/52212_1.pdf Tony Quoting K. K. Subramaniam kksubbu...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 28 Sep 2010 2:59:57 am Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote: The 5th graders took pretty well to Etoys. It is

[IAEP] Etoys, es fácil o es difícil? Etoys , is it difficult or easy?

2010-09-25 Thread forster
Hola El problema de pizza se ha discutido en este hilo, que tiene exactamente 920 pesos y pizzas costo 160 y 120, ¿cuántos puede comprar? Turtle Art pueden resolver problemas complejos, sólo por diversión, aquí es una solución The pizza problem has been discussed in this thread, you have

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Child in charge of FOSS or Sugar

2010-09-20 Thread forster
*Tony* - *Having a FOSS culture means that lots of smaller design decisions are made which empower the learner* Soren I find it a bit strange being asked to explain FOSS culture. I run Windows on my computer and see myself as a little bit of an outsider. It is, I guess, difficult to define

Re: [IAEP] Dextrose Install Snags

2010-09-12 Thread forster
While I am asking, is there a reason why the files for the XO-1 for 852 are .img and fs.zip while those for Dextrose are .img and .crc? Think its the difference between signed and unsigned builds, to use the crc one you need to be unlocked. Thats if I have it right.

Re: [IAEP] Sugata Mitra: The child-driven Education

2010-09-08 Thread forster
What a depressing talk... Did anyone see any learning happening? -walter Walter I presume you refer to the student achievements being at the lower end of Bloom's Taxonomy: internet search and data retrieval with little evidence of having thought about the information on the way? In one

Re: [IAEP] kids hacking sugar?

2010-08-10 Thread forster
Soren I hope a non-Sugar anecdote is OK. I had a year 6 (aprox. 11year old) student in my class programming in a TurtleArt/Etoys/Scratch like drag and drop programming language with top end extensibility through a scripting language. He found a strategy game with quite complex coding in the

Re: [IAEP] Recommend build for XO-1.0 deployment

2010-08-01 Thread forster
I have been using OS258py It is unsigned and requires that the XO's be unlocked but that's not too hard to do for a small deployment Later py builds are even better but I havent tried them The main advantage is having Gnome. If you get stuck trying to do something in Sugar, you drop briefly

Re: [IAEP] Feedback request for my Python tutorial

2010-07-10 Thread forster
maybe print zero decimal places if they have followed your instructions but print a float (maybe with an explanation) if it evaluates to not a whole number Hi Tony, thanks for the suggestions. I've been thinking about some of those things myself already. I have only one comment: On

Re: [IAEP] Feedback request for my Python tutorial

2010-07-08 Thread forster
Hi I ran the introduction as Python code with Pippy this was probably not what you intended yet but it looks good I added run() to the end of the file it gave errors for .lowercase() so i deleted them Lines of text break in the middle of words it is good how you respond if students type

Re: [IAEP] eBooks for Primary Students?

2010-06-22 Thread forster
http://www.seaton-olpc-ug.org/?q=node/227 Hi Can some of you send me some links to sites with free ebooks/digital textbooks suitable for use in primary schools... English is ok. Need to be culturally unbiased if possible. I need these for for folks doing Contributors Program

Re: [IAEP] deployment meeting and how we can support through testing

2010-06-08 Thread forster
Quoting Raul Gutierrez Segales r...@rieder.net.py: Yes, thanks all and specially Raul and Tabitha. When is the next meeting? How about next Wed (Jun 9th)? What time? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] deployment meeting and how we can support through testing

2010-06-08 Thread forster
East coast Australia is UTC +10, (NZ I think is +12) For me, avoid UTC 14 to UTC UTC 19 Tony On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:32, Tabitha Roder tabi...@tabitha.net.nz wrote: Do we have a time yet for our next deployments meeting? Last message I have is that we said Wednesday 9 June. What time

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread forster
Ian Do you think that the solution is to create a new and more narrow list which meets the needs of deployers and teachers or to narrow the scope of IAEP and moderate it to keep it within scope? My understanding if IAEP is thats its a catch all, if you only follow one list, its the one to

Re: [IAEP] Books and educational achievement

2010-05-25 Thread forster
This study seems to make a powerful argument in favor of ramping up the quantity of e-book content on school servers. Books in the home as important as parents� education level http://www.unr.edu/nevadanews/templates/details.aspx?articleid=5450zoneid=8 Thank Chris Even more interesting

[IAEP] video of Australian laptop deployment

2010-05-25 Thread forster
Video of Australian OLPC deployment at http://7pmproject.com.au/video.htm Select full episodes on RHS, Tuesday 25 May, Missing children's day; One Laptop Per Child Video starts after advertisement, after missing children's day, a little over halfway through the video

Re: [IAEP] community team

2010-05-24 Thread forster
Yes, please, all meetings listed in UTC. There are now proposals for Deployment and Community meetings. What are the scope of the two meetings? Is there overlap? Are both going ahead? Attending meetings is a big commitment from Australia/NZ, they are typically 4am local time, we understand

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Scratch-20100321

2010-05-22 Thread forster
my recollection it is except for the name scratch and the cat. that is, you can create a fork if you dont call it scratch and you dont use the cat graphic tony Is Scratch free software now? I believe it didn't used to be. The license page in ASLO is empty:

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Scratch-20100321

2010-05-22 Thread forster
Also about Scratch variations..I came across panther http://scratch.wikia.com/wiki/Panther Thanks Rafael for finding Panther. Looking at the dates its only just been released. Its a strong endorsement of Sugar's educational philosophy, open source, low entry, high ceiling (or Turtles all

Re: [IAEP] Need Help With A Small XO-1 Problem

2010-05-19 Thread forster
Quoting Caryl Bigenho cbige...@hotmail.com: Caryl Open the Log activity and see if you are generating any error messages You will find a lot of warnings already in the logs but you may see some new error messages, particularly in the log for write after you paste Tony Hi Folks... A

Re: [IAEP] Pippy improvements (Python examples)

2010-05-15 Thread forster
Hi Dinko A Pippy example of reading data from the microphone input would be good. See Measure and Turtle Art experimental fork for code. It would be good if the samples you create could also be used in the Turtle Blocks programmable Python block Tony Hello everyone, I'm Dinko and I'll

Re: [IAEP] Peru, OLPC and Wikipedia

2010-05-10 Thread forster
I've been following your comments on this. Am I the only one who finds this charming but at the same time strangely disturbing If you mean the intrusion of the outside world into their idyllic lifestyle - no If you mean the interviewee talking about Darwinian social evolution - yes On

Re: [IAEP] Peru, OLPC and Wikipedia

2010-05-10 Thread forster
Caryl A little more research by me the interviewed social Darwinist is Robert Wright, the author of Nonzero http://www.nonzero.org/ The filmmaker is Righteous Pictures http://righteouspictures.com/ Wright seems to believe that there is a higher purpose to biological and social evolution,

Re: [IAEP] OLPC, Sugar and Sugar on a Stick in Global Issues curriculum?

2010-05-06 Thread forster
Looks like it might be part of the Oxford Reading Tree http://fds.oup.com/www0.oup.com/ort/2/intro.html Tony

Re: [IAEP] SoaS Creation Saga

2010-04-22 Thread forster
you probably have all this but: A: a floppy B: the second floppy C: the hard drive D: etc additional drives in the time order windows discovered them To eject, click on the remove hardware icon at the bottom right left click is less confusing than right click you get a list of removable drives,

[IAEP] OECD releases a new report ..

2010-04-20 Thread forster
Fwd: OECD releases a new report on technology use and educational performance in PISA Dear all, The OECD Centre for Educational Research and Innovation, in cooperation with the OECD Directorate for Science, Technology and Industry and with the support of the Norwegian Ministry of

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