Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Samson Goddy]

Yeah +1 ibiam

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 2:45 PM, Chihurumnaya Ibiam <
ibiamchihurumn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I totally agree with "We should be able to speak about Sugar deployments
> as we now speak about OLPC deployments. Sugar should be available for PCs
> and mobile devices with xo being considered as one of the supported
> environments".
>
> I think we limited ourselves to an extent on OLPC deployments, we've tried
> so far in making sugar available for different devices. Those companies are
> not limited because canonical doesn't provide hardware devices neither does
> redhat, but they've partnered with different companies that do.
>
> Tony, if you've any plan as to expanding our reach apart from the one's
> already listed, it'll be great if you tell us.
>
>
>   Best regards
>
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Tony Anderson 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi, All
>>
>> I certainly appreciate the attention my email has received. However, I am
>> disappointed that the responses do not reflect my main concern. I beleive
>> Sugar and Sugar Labs will fade away if it continues to be perceived as
>> the software that comes on an XO. I believe Sugar Labs and Sugar should be
>> perceived as in a similar relationship as Red Hat is to Fedora and
>> Canonical is to Ubuntu.
>>
>> We need to have releases of Sugar: Long-term-support, latest stable, and
>> developer. These releases should be downloadable as a single image which
>> can be installed from a livecd usb stick generated by a dd command. The
>> starting point is probably SOAS - which is not now installable without a
>> technically difficult use of livecd tools in a Fedora 24 installation
>> (which is difficult since Fedora provides Fedora 25).
>>
>> As an evaluation of Sugar Lab's success is that the Mexican deployment
>> presented in the OLPC SF Summit chooses to use Sugar instead of UberMix.
>> (http://www.ubermix.org/).
>>
>> We should be able to speak about Sugar deployments as we now speak about
>> OLPC deployments. Sugar should be available for PCs and mobile devices with
>> xo being considered as one of the supported environments.
>>
>> If no action is taken except to discuss future academic papers about
>> Sugar Labs and SLOB elections, I think both will become totally irrelevant.
>> Current OLPC deployments will choose new hardware to replace XOs and
>> install on this hardware Windows, Raspbian, Chrome OS, UberMix or other
>> readily available and supported alternatives. Sugar will join APL and Cobol
>> in computer history.
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On 12/02/2016 07:16 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:
>>
>>
>> There is a IAEP thread "Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election" in early
>> August that has more details about all this.
>>
>> First, I want to note that while an 'election committee' has been
>> mentioned, Walter said in that earlier thread:
>>
>> I am of the opinion that SLOB does not have to approve individual
>> membership in committees. SLOB responsibility vis-a-vis committees is to
>> appoint a representative. So I don't think we need a motion.
>>
>>
>> As Caryl and Seb have reiterated on this thread: while they both helped
>> run the election last year, they both said a few months ago that they are
>> unable to volunteer for this year.
>>
>> At that time I offered to volunteer, as did Samson; and I found a
>> possible web app to run the election and suggested Samuel Cantero could set
>> it up, and he graciously did set it up.
>>
>> However, by September, (a) the GSOC project to make a font editor
>> activity wound up, and (b)  Sameer offered to lead the vision thing, and
>> until that is done I am not confident about taking any other actions, and
>> (c) I accepted an employment offer by Google and have had less free time
>> since then compared to when I was working as a consultant, so I haven't
>> done more of the things I said I would do. I wrote on August 5:
>>
>>
>> So, I volunteer to do the following before the next SLOB meeting:
>>
>> - I will ask Sam C to set up a new sugar-annou...@lists.sugarlabs.org mailing
>> list with himself, myself, samson, caryl and seb as list admins.
>>
>> - I will complete the review of all accounts on the wiki to mark the ones
>> that look like spammers
>>
>> - I will make a final 'all possible members' email list
>>
>> - I will draft the email that asks people to join the announce list and
>> explains why I am asking them to do this, and a motion to approve the
>> election email, and share it on the IAEP list for community review
>>
>> - I will ask SLOBs to post and second the motion
>>
>> Then in early September I can send the email, and prepare a report with
>> the new list of members and similarly to before another draft email
>> soliciting board applications for SLOB to review and approve in the October
>> meeting.
>>
>> Then in early October I can send that email, perhaps also with the
>> donation request, and then prepare a final email calling for votes that
>> SLOB can rev

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Chihurumnaya Ibiam]

I totally agree with "We should be able to speak about Sugar deployments as
we now speak about OLPC deployments. Sugar should be available for PCs and
mobile devices with xo being considered as one of the supported
environments".

I think we limited ourselves to an extent on OLPC deployments, we've tried
so far in making sugar available for different devices. Those companies are
not limited because canonical doesn't provide hardware devices neither does
redhat, but they've partnered with different companies that do.

Tony, if you've any plan as to expanding our reach apart from the one's
already listed, it'll be great if you tell us.

Best regards

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> Hi, All
>
> I certainly appreciate the attention my email has received. However, I am
> disappointed that the responses do not reflect my main concern. I beleive
> Sugar and Sugar Labs will fade away if it continues to be perceived as the
> software that comes on an XO. I believe Sugar Labs and Sugar should be
> perceived as in a similar relationship as Red Hat is to Fedora and
> Canonical is to Ubuntu.
>
> We need to have releases of Sugar: Long-term-support, latest stable, and
> developer. These releases should be downloadable as a single image which
> can be installed from a livecd usb stick generated by a dd command. The
> starting point is probably SOAS - which is not now installable without a
> technically difficult use of livecd tools in a Fedora 24 installation
> (which is difficult since Fedora provides Fedora 25).
>
> As an evaluation of Sugar Lab's success is that the Mexican deployment
> presented in the OLPC SF Summit chooses to use Sugar instead of UberMix.
> (http://www.ubermix.org/).
>
> We should be able to speak about Sugar deployments as we now speak about
> OLPC deployments. Sugar should be available for PCs and mobile devices with
> xo being considered as one of the supported environments.
>
> If no action is taken except to discuss future academic papers about Sugar
> Labs and SLOB elections, I think both will become totally irrelevant.
> Current OLPC deployments will choose new hardware to replace XOs and
> install on this hardware Windows, Raspbian, Chrome OS, UberMix or other
> readily available and supported alternatives. Sugar will join APL and Cobol
> in computer history.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 12/02/2016 07:16 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:
>
>
> There is a IAEP thread "Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election" in early
> August that has more details about all this.
>
> First, I want to note that while an 'election committee' has been
> mentioned, Walter said in that earlier thread:
>
> I am of the opinion that SLOB does not have to approve individual
> membership in committees. SLOB responsibility vis-a-vis committees is to
> appoint a representative. So I don't think we need a motion.
>
>
> As Caryl and Seb have reiterated on this thread: while they both helped
> run the election last year, they both said a few months ago that they are
> unable to volunteer for this year.
>
> At that time I offered to volunteer, as did Samson; and I found a possible
> web app to run the election and suggested Samuel Cantero could set it up,
> and he graciously did set it up.
>
> However, by September, (a) the GSOC project to make a font editor activity
> wound up, and (b)  Sameer offered to lead the vision thing, and until that
> is done I am not confident about taking any other actions, and (c) I
> accepted an employment offer by Google and have had less free time since
> then compared to when I was working as a consultant, so I haven't done more
> of the things I said I would do. I wrote on August 5:
>
>
> So, I volunteer to do the following before the next SLOB meeting:
>
> - I will ask Sam C to set up a new sugar-annou...@lists.sugarlabs.org mailing
> list with himself, myself, samson, caryl and seb as list admins.
>
> - I will complete the review of all accounts on the wiki to mark the ones
> that look like spammers
>
> - I will make a final 'all possible members' email list
>
> - I will draft the email that asks people to join the announce list and
> explains why I am asking them to do this, and a motion to approve the
> election email, and share it on the IAEP list for community review
>
> - I will ask SLOBs to post and second the motion
>
> Then in early September I can send the email, and prepare a report with
> the new list of members and similarly to before another draft email
> soliciting board applications for SLOB to review and approve in the October
> meeting.
>
> Then in early October I can send that email, perhaps also with the
> donation request, and then prepare a final email calling for votes that
> SLOB can review and approve in the November meeting.
>
> Then in early November the call for votes can go out, votes can come in,
> and in early December the results can be announced.
>
>
> I still think this process is a good one, but regretfully I am not going
> to be able to put much effo

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Chihurumnaya Ibiam]

+1.

On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:57 AM, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> Hi, All
>
> I certainly appreciate the attention my email has received. However, I am
> disappointed that the responses do not reflect my main concern. I beleive
> Sugar and Sugar Labs will fade away if it continues to be perceived as the
> software that comes on an XO. I believe Sugar Labs and Sugar should be
> perceived as in a similar relationship as Red Hat is to Fedora and
> Canonical is to Ubuntu.
>
> We need to have releases of Sugar: Long-term-support, latest stable, and
> developer. These releases should be downloadable as a single image which
> can be installed from a livecd usb stick generated by a dd command. The
> starting point is probably SOAS - which is not now installable without a
> technically difficult use of livecd tools in a Fedora 24 installation
> (which is difficult since Fedora provides Fedora 25).
>
> As an evaluation of Sugar Lab's success is that the Mexican deployment
> presented in the OLPC SF Summit chooses to use Sugar instead of UberMix.
> (http://www.ubermix.org/).
>
> We should be able to speak about Sugar deployments as we now speak about
> OLPC deployments. Sugar should be available for PCs and mobile devices with
> xo being considered as one of the supported environments.
>
> If no action is taken except to discuss future academic papers about Sugar
> Labs and SLOB elections, I think both will become totally irrelevant.
> Current OLPC deployments will choose new hardware to replace XOs and
> install on this hardware Windows, Raspbian, Chrome OS, UberMix or other
> readily available and supported alternatives. Sugar will join APL and Cobol
> in computer history.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 12/02/2016 07:16 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:
>
>
> There is a IAEP thread "Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election" in early
> August that has more details about all this.
>
> First, I want to note that while an 'election committee' has been
> mentioned, Walter said in that earlier thread:
>
> I am of the opinion that SLOB does not have to approve individual
> membership in committees. SLOB responsibility vis-a-vis committees is to
> appoint a representative. So I don't think we need a motion.
>
>
> As Caryl and Seb have reiterated on this thread: while they both helped
> run the election last year, they both said a few months ago that they are
> unable to volunteer for this year.
>
> At that time I offered to volunteer, as did Samson; and I found a possible
> web app to run the election and suggested Samuel Cantero could set it up,
> and he graciously did set it up.
>
> However, by September, (a) the GSOC project to make a font editor activity
> wound up, and (b)  Sameer offered to lead the vision thing, and until that
> is done I am not confident about taking any other actions, and (c) I
> accepted an employment offer by Google and have had less free time since
> then compared to when I was working as a consultant, so I haven't done more
> of the things I said I would do. I wrote on August 5:
>
>
> So, I volunteer to do the following before the next SLOB meeting:
>
> - I will ask Sam C to set up a new sugar-annou...@lists.sugarlabs.org mailing
> list with himself, myself, samson, caryl and seb as list admins.
>
> - I will complete the review of all accounts on the wiki to mark the ones
> that look like spammers
>
> - I will make a final 'all possible members' email list
>
> - I will draft the email that asks people to join the announce list and
> explains why I am asking them to do this, and a motion to approve the
> election email, and share it on the IAEP list for community review
>
> - I will ask SLOBs to post and second the motion
>
> Then in early September I can send the email, and prepare a report with
> the new list of members and similarly to before another draft email
> soliciting board applications for SLOB to review and approve in the October
> meeting.
>
> Then in early October I can send that email, perhaps also with the
> donation request, and then prepare a final email calling for votes that
> SLOB can review and approve in the November meeting.
>
> Then in early November the call for votes can go out, votes can come in,
> and in early December the results can be announced.
>
>
> I still think this process is a good one, but regretfully I am not going
> to be able to put much effort into this until January at the earliest.
>
> So, I suggest that Samson and anyone who wants to volunteer to run the
> election take a look at that web app with Sam C and see if it really will
> work for Sugar Labs in 2016.
>
> If not, http://civs.cs.cornell.edu was used last year and should be a
> suitable mechanism for people to cast votes.
>
> Finally, I think the very next step is for whoever volunteers to run the
> election to come up with a list of members emails to solicit votes from.
> (Where the discussions last trailed off was in discussing who should be on
> this 'final members list' - I think we agreed to cast a very wide net, and

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, All

I certainly appreciate the attention my email has received. However, I 
am disappointed that the responses do not reflect my main concern. I 
beleive
Sugar and Sugar Labs will fade away if it continues to be perceived as 
the software that comes on an XO. I believe Sugar Labs and Sugar should 
be perceived as in a similar relationship as Red Hat is to Fedora and 
Canonical is to Ubuntu.


We need to have releases of Sugar: Long-term-support, latest stable, and 
developer. These releases should be downloadable as a single image which 
can be installed from a livecd usb stick generated by a dd command. The 
starting point is probably SOAS - which is not now installable without a 
technically difficult use of livecd tools in a Fedora 24 installation 
(which is difficult since Fedora provides Fedora 25).


As an evaluation of Sugar Lab's success is that the Mexican deployment 
presented in the OLPC SF Summit chooses to use Sugar instead of UberMix.

(http://www.ubermix.org/).

We should be able to speak about Sugar deployments as we now speak about 
OLPC deployments. Sugar should be available for PCs and mobile devices 
with xo being considered as one of the supported environments.


If no action is taken except to discuss future academic papers about 
Sugar Labs and SLOB elections, I think both will become totally 
irrelevant. Current OLPC deployments will choose new hardware to replace 
XOs and install on this hardware Windows, Raspbian, Chrome OS, UberMix 
or other readily available and supported alternatives. Sugar will join 
APL and Cobol in computer history.


Tony

On 12/02/2016 07:16 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:


There is a IAEP thread "Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election" in early 
August that has more details about all this.


First, I want to note that while an 'election committee' has been 
mentioned, Walter said in that earlier thread:


I am of the opinion that SLOB does not have to approve individual
membership in committees. SLOB responsibility vis-a-vis committees
is to appoint a representative. So I don't think we need a motion.


As Caryl and Seb have reiterated on this thread: while they both 
helped run the election last year, they both said a few months ago 
that they are unable to volunteer for this year.


At that time I offered to volunteer, as did Samson; and I found a 
possible web app to run the election and suggested Samuel Cantero 
could set it up, and he graciously did set it up.


However, by September, (a) the GSOC project to make a font editor 
activity wound up, and (b)  Sameer offered to lead the vision thing, 
and until that is done I am not confident about taking any other 
actions, and (c) I accepted an employment offer by Google and have had 
less free time since then compared to when I was working as a 
consultant, so I haven't done more of the things I said I would do. I 
wrote on August 5:



So, I volunteer to do the following before the next SLOB meeting:

- I will ask Sam C to set up a new
sugar-annou...@lists.sugarlabs.org
 mailing list with
himself, myself, samson, caryl and seb as list admins.

- I will complete the review of all accounts on the wiki to mark
the ones that look like spammers

- I will make a final 'all possible members' email list

- I will draft the email that asks people to join the announce
list and explains why I am asking them to do this, and a motion to
approve the election email, and share it on the IAEP list for
community review

- I will ask SLOBs to post and second the motion

Then in early September I can send the email, and prepare a report
with the new list of members and similarly to before another draft
email soliciting board applications for SLOB to review and approve
in the October meeting.

Then in early October I can send that email, perhaps also with the
donation request, and then prepare a final email calling for votes
that SLOB can review and approve in the November meeting.

Then in early November the call for votes can go out, votes can
come in, and in early December the results can be announced.


I still think this process is a good one, but regretfully I am not 
going to be able to put much effort into this until January at the 
earliest.


So, I suggest that Samson and anyone who wants to volunteer to run the 
election take a look at that web app with Sam C and see if it really 
will work for Sugar Labs in 2016.


If not, http://civs.cs.cornell.edu was used last year and should be a 
suitable mechanism for people to cast votes.


Finally, I think the very next step is for whoever volunteers to run 
the election to come up with a list of members emails to solicit votes 
from. (Where the discussions last trailed off was in discussing who 
should be on this 'final members list' - I think we agreed to cast a 
very wide net, and I made some progress reviewing wiki accounts a

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Dave Crossland]

There is a IAEP thread "Preparing for the 2017 SLOB Election" in early
August that has more details about all this.

First, I want to note that while an 'election committee' has been
mentioned, Walter said in that earlier thread:

I am of the opinion that SLOB does not have to approve individual
membership in committees. SLOB responsibility vis-a-vis committees is to
appoint a representative. So I don't think we need a motion.


As Caryl and Seb have reiterated on this thread: while they both helped run
the election last year, they both said a few months ago that they are
unable to volunteer for this year.

At that time I offered to volunteer, as did Samson; and I found a possible
web app to run the election and suggested Samuel Cantero could set it up,
and he graciously did set it up.

However, by September, (a) the GSOC project to make a font editor activity
wound up, and (b)  Sameer offered to lead the vision thing, and until that
is done I am not confident about taking any other actions, and (c) I
accepted an employment offer by Google and have had less free time since
then compared to when I was working as a consultant, so I haven't done more
of the things I said I would do. I wrote on August 5:


So, I volunteer to do the following before the next SLOB meeting:

- I will ask Sam C to set up a new sugar-annou...@lists.sugarlabs.org mailing
list with himself, myself, samson, caryl and seb as list admins.

- I will complete the review of all accounts on the wiki to mark the ones
that look like spammers

- I will make a final 'all possible members' email list

- I will draft the email that asks people to join the announce list and
explains why I am asking them to do this, and a motion to approve the
election email, and share it on the IAEP list for community review

- I will ask SLOBs to post and second the motion

Then in early September I can send the email, and prepare a report with the
new list of members and similarly to before another draft email soliciting
board applications for SLOB to review and approve in the October meeting.

Then in early October I can send that email, perhaps also with the donation
request, and then prepare a final email calling for votes that SLOB can
review and approve in the November meeting.

Then in early November the call for votes can go out, votes can come in,
and in early December the results can be announced.


I still think this process is a good one, but regretfully I am not going to
be able to put much effort into this until January at the earliest.

So, I suggest that Samson and anyone who wants to volunteer to run the
election take a look at that web app with Sam C and see if it really will
work for Sugar Labs in 2016.

If not, http://civs.cs.cornell.edu was used last year and should be a
suitable mechanism for people to cast votes.

Finally, I think the very next step is for whoever volunteers to run the
election to come up with a list of members emails to solicit votes from.
(Where the discussions last trailed off was in discussing who should be on
this 'final members list' - I think we agreed to cast a very wide net, and
I made some progress reviewing wiki accounts and, defining the members list
based on wiki + mailing list posters. I am happy to share that WIP and
explain what I would do next with it, but it may be better for the person
to start their own list.)
___
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Laura Vargas]

+1 :D

Very cool.



2016-12-01 18:41 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy :

> Yeah.. me too. I guess it time for the youths to run too.
>
> On 2 Dec 2016 12:39 a.m., "Ignacio Rodríguez" 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> If it's possible, I would like to apply to be part of SLOBs this year :)
>>
>> 2016-12-01 19:45 GMT-03:00, Laura Vargas :
>> > Samson,
>> >
>> > Seems like you will be leading this year!
>> >
>> > Another option I see to save time would be to directly name the last 3
>> > candidates from last year's election. Not sure if this has ever been
>> done
>> > before.
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards and let's hope this Christmas brings joy to everyone :D
>> >
>> >
>> > 2016-12-01 17:29 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy :
>> >
>> >> I guess so
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Laura Vargas 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Quoting Dave:
>> >>>
>> >>> http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_dd38dc6aa11d1a98
>> says
>> >>> "The top four candidates will serve 2 year terms and the next three
>> will
>> >>> serve 1 year terms" and here's the ordered list:
>> >>>
>> >>> 1. Walter Bender
>> >>> 2. Lionel Laské
>> >>> 3. Adam Holt
>> >>> 4. Sameer Verma
>> >>> 5. Claudia Urrea
>> >>> 6. Tony Anderson
>> >>> 7. Jose Miguel Garcia
>> >>>
>> >>> Therefore Tony, Jose Miguel, and Claudia's seats will be elected this
>> >>> year.
>> >>>
>> >>> I guess it only makes sense to have an election if there are more
>> >>> candidates than seats. Right?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Laura
>> >>>
>> >>> 2016-12-01 16:06 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>> >>>
>> >>>> This year I am not on the election committee because I am very
>> involved
>> >>>> in setting up an OSSIE track for SCaLE. I don't know who is on the
>> >>>> committee this time or what their time table is. It probably should
>> be
>> >>>> finalized at tomorrow's meeting.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Caryl
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> *From:* Laura Vargas 
>> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:37:16 PM
>> >>>> *To:* Caryl Bigenho; Dave Crossland
>> >>>> *Cc:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org; samson
>> >>>> goddy; Tony Anderson
>> >>>>
>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Caryl,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I Agree with you, we should be patient. The academia certification
>> >>>> system consumes a lot of time from people :P
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You lead last year election time table, Any news this year?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dave,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I recall you also joined the Elections Committee early this year, I
>> >>>> hope
>> >>>> you still have time :D
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards and blessings,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Laura Victoria
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2016-12-01 14:47 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I agree with Dave, we should wait for Sameer's guidance in this
>> >>>>> process.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Caryl
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> *From:* IAEP  on behalf of Laura
>> >>>>> Vargas 
>> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:13:55 AM
>> >>>>> *To:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> >>>>> *Cc:* Tony Anderson; Dave Crossland
>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Hi all!
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I am really interested in continue helping the community to shape
>> it's
>> >>>>&g

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Samson Goddy]

Yeah.. me too. I guess it time for the youths to run too.

On 2 Dec 2016 12:39 a.m., "Ignacio Rodríguez"  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> If it's possible, I would like to apply to be part of SLOBs this year :)
>
> 2016-12-01 19:45 GMT-03:00, Laura Vargas :
> > Samson,
> >
> > Seems like you will be leading this year!
> >
> > Another option I see to save time would be to directly name the last 3
> > candidates from last year's election. Not sure if this has ever been done
> > before.
> >
> >
> > Regards and let's hope this Christmas brings joy to everyone :D
> >
> >
> > 2016-12-01 17:29 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy :
> >
> >> I guess so
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Laura Vargas 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Quoting Dave:
> >>>
> >>> http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_dd38dc6aa11d1a98
> says
> >>> "The top four candidates will serve 2 year terms and the next three
> will
> >>> serve 1 year terms" and here's the ordered list:
> >>>
> >>> 1. Walter Bender
> >>> 2. Lionel Laské
> >>> 3. Adam Holt
> >>> 4. Sameer Verma
> >>> 5. Claudia Urrea
> >>> 6. Tony Anderson
> >>> 7. Jose Miguel Garcia
> >>>
> >>> Therefore Tony, Jose Miguel, and Claudia's seats will be elected this
> >>> year.
> >>>
> >>> I guess it only makes sense to have an election if there are more
> >>> candidates than seats. Right?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Laura
> >>>
> >>> 2016-12-01 16:06 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
> >>>
> >>>> This year I am not on the election committee because I am very
> involved
> >>>> in setting up an OSSIE track for SCaLE. I don't know who is on the
> >>>> committee this time or what their time table is. It probably should be
> >>>> finalized at tomorrow's meeting.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Caryl
> >>>> --
> >>>> *From:* Laura Vargas 
> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:37:16 PM
> >>>> *To:* Caryl Bigenho; Dave Crossland
> >>>> *Cc:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org; samson
> >>>> goddy; Tony Anderson
> >>>>
> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
> >>>>
> >>>> Caryl,
> >>>>
> >>>> I Agree with you, we should be patient. The academia certification
> >>>> system consumes a lot of time from people :P
> >>>>
> >>>> You lead last year election time table, Any news this year?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave,
> >>>>
> >>>> I recall you also joined the Elections Committee early this year, I
> >>>> hope
> >>>> you still have time :D
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards and blessings,
> >>>>
> >>>> Laura Victoria
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 2016-12-01 14:47 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
> >>>>
> >>>>> I agree with Dave, we should wait for Sameer's guidance in this
> >>>>> process.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Caryl
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> *From:* IAEP  on behalf of Laura
> >>>>> Vargas 
> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:13:55 AM
> >>>>> *To:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> >>>>> *Cc:* Tony Anderson; Dave Crossland
> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi all!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am really interested in continue helping the community to shape
> it's
> >>>>> vision for the following 10-15 years.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I believe society in general, needs urgently to rescue respect for
> the
> >>>>> voice of women and young girls, specially in
> >>>>> free/libre-culture/software
> >>>>> projects.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That said I have found that helping out is easier when your voice
> also
> >>>>> has a vote at

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Ignacio Rodríguez]

Hi!

If it's possible, I would like to apply to be part of SLOBs this year :)

2016-12-01 19:45 GMT-03:00, Laura Vargas :
> Samson,
>
> Seems like you will be leading this year!
>
> Another option I see to save time would be to directly name the last 3
> candidates from last year's election. Not sure if this has ever been done
> before.
>
>
> Regards and let's hope this Christmas brings joy to everyone :D
>
>
> 2016-12-01 17:29 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy :
>
>> I guess so
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Laura Vargas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Quoting Dave:
>>>
>>> http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_dd38dc6aa11d1a98 says
>>> "The top four candidates will serve 2 year terms and the next three will
>>> serve 1 year terms" and here's the ordered list:
>>>
>>> 1. Walter Bender
>>> 2. Lionel Laské
>>> 3. Adam Holt
>>> 4. Sameer Verma
>>> 5. Claudia Urrea
>>> 6. Tony Anderson
>>> 7. Jose Miguel Garcia
>>>
>>> Therefore Tony, Jose Miguel, and Claudia's seats will be elected this
>>> year.
>>>
>>> I guess it only makes sense to have an election if there are more
>>> candidates than seats. Right?
>>>
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>> 2016-12-01 16:06 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>>>
>>>> This year I am not on the election committee because I am very involved
>>>> in setting up an OSSIE track for SCaLE. I don't know who is on the
>>>> committee this time or what their time table is. It probably should be
>>>> finalized at tomorrow's meeting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Caryl
>>>> --
>>>> *From:* Laura Vargas 
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:37:16 PM
>>>> *To:* Caryl Bigenho; Dave Crossland
>>>> *Cc:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org; samson
>>>> goddy; Tony Anderson
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
>>>>
>>>> Caryl,
>>>>
>>>> I Agree with you, we should be patient. The academia certification
>>>> system consumes a lot of time from people :P
>>>>
>>>> You lead last year election time table, Any news this year?
>>>>
>>>> Dave,
>>>>
>>>> I recall you also joined the Elections Committee early this year, I
>>>> hope
>>>> you still have time :D
>>>>
>>>> Regards and blessings,
>>>>
>>>> Laura Victoria
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-12-01 14:47 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Dave, we should wait for Sameer's guidance in this
>>>>> process.
>>>>>
>>>>> Caryl
>>>>> --
>>>>> *From:* IAEP  on behalf of Laura
>>>>> Vargas 
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:13:55 AM
>>>>> *To:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> *Cc:* Tony Anderson; Dave Crossland
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>
>>>>> I am really interested in continue helping the community to shape it's
>>>>> vision for the following 10-15 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe society in general, needs urgently to rescue respect for the
>>>>> voice of women and young girls, specially in
>>>>> free/libre-culture/software
>>>>> projects.
>>>>>
>>>>> That said I have found that helping out is easier when your voice also
>>>>> has a vote attached.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why I present my candidacy for the commingling board elections.
>>>>> Sebastian has shared with me he has no time to be part of this years
>>>>> election (is it 3 seats? is it for 2017-2019?) committee, so I ask all
>>>>> the
>>>>> other members to please set the time line in tomorrow's meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you all for the time!
>>>>>
>>>>> Blessings and regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Laura Victoria
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2016-12-01 12:07 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland :
>>>>>
>>>>>> The discussion stopped because we are waiting for Sameer to publish
>>>>>> the second episode of his video about the process of formally defining
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> vision, mission, goals, tasks and doing a swot analysis and so on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sameer proposed and I think we all agreed that each of us throwing
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> own unilateral attempts at each other was not productive
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (resent from correct email address)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___
>>>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>>>>>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Laura V.
>>>>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>>>>
>>>>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire
>>>>> IRC kaametza
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Laura V.
>>>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>>>
>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Laura V.
>>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>>
>>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire
>>> IRC kaametza
>>>
>>> Happy Learning!
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Laura V.
> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>
> Identi.ca/Skype acaire
> IRC kaametza
>
> Happy Learning!
>


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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Laura Vargas]

Samson,

Seems like you will be leading this year!

Another option I see to save time would be to directly name the last 3
candidates from last year's election. Not sure if this has ever been done
before.


Regards and let's hope this Christmas brings joy to everyone :D


2016-12-01 17:29 GMT-05:00 Samson Goddy :

> I guess so
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Laura Vargas 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Quoting Dave:
>>
>> http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_dd38dc6aa11d1a98 says
>> "The top four candidates will serve 2 year terms and the next three will
>> serve 1 year terms" and here's the ordered list:
>>
>> 1. Walter Bender
>> 2. Lionel Laské
>> 3. Adam Holt
>> 4. Sameer Verma
>> 5. Claudia Urrea
>> 6. Tony Anderson
>> 7. Jose Miguel Garcia
>>
>> Therefore Tony, Jose Miguel, and Claudia's seats will be elected this
>> year.
>>
>> I guess it only makes sense to have an election if there are more
>> candidates than seats. Right?
>>
>>
>> Laura
>>
>> 2016-12-01 16:06 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>>
>>> This year I am not on the election committee because I am very involved
>>> in setting up an OSSIE track for SCaLE. I don't know who is on the
>>> committee this time or what their time table is. It probably should be
>>> finalized at tomorrow's meeting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Caryl
>>> ----------
>>> *From:* Laura Vargas 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:37:16 PM
>>> *To:* Caryl Bigenho; Dave Crossland
>>> *Cc:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org; samson
>>> goddy; Tony Anderson
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
>>>
>>> Caryl,
>>>
>>> I Agree with you, we should be patient. The academia certification
>>> system consumes a lot of time from people :P
>>>
>>> You lead last year election time table, Any news this year?
>>>
>>> Dave,
>>>
>>> I recall you also joined the Elections Committee early this year, I hope
>>> you still have time :D
>>>
>>> Regards and blessings,
>>>
>>> Laura Victoria
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-12-01 14:47 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>>>
>>>> I agree with Dave, we should wait for Sameer's guidance in this
>>>> process.
>>>>
>>>> Caryl
>>>> --
>>>> *From:* IAEP  on behalf of Laura
>>>> Vargas 
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:13:55 AM
>>>> *To:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>> *Cc:* Tony Anderson; Dave Crossland
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
>>>>
>>>> Hi all!
>>>>
>>>> I am really interested in continue helping the community to shape it's
>>>> vision for the following 10-15 years.
>>>>
>>>> I believe society in general, needs urgently to rescue respect for the
>>>> voice of women and young girls, specially in free/libre-culture/software
>>>> projects.
>>>>
>>>> That said I have found that helping out is easier when your voice also
>>>> has a vote attached.
>>>>
>>>> That's why I present my candidacy for the commingling board elections.
>>>> Sebastian has shared with me he has no time to be part of this years
>>>> election (is it 3 seats? is it for 2017-2019?) committee, so I ask all the
>>>> other members to please set the time line in tomorrow's meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you all for the time!
>>>>
>>>> Blessings and regards,
>>>>
>>>> Laura Victoria
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2016-12-01 12:07 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland :
>>>>
>>>>> The discussion stopped because we are waiting for Sameer to publish
>>>>> the second episode of his video about the process of formally defining a
>>>>> vision, mission, goals, tasks and doing a swot analysis and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sameer proposed and I think we all agreed that each of us throwing our
>>>>> own unilateral attempts at each other was not productive
>>>>>
>>>>> (resent from correct email address)
>>>>>
>>>>> ___
>>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>>>>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Laura V.
>>>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>>>
>>>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire
>>>> IRC kaametza
>>>>
>>>> Happy Learning!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Laura V.
>>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>>
>>> Happy Learning!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Laura V.
>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>
>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire
>> IRC kaametza
>>
>> Happy Learning!
>>
>>
>


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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Samson Goddy]

I guess so

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 11:28 PM, Laura Vargas  wrote:

>
> Quoting Dave:
>
> http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_dd38dc6aa11d1a98 says
> "The top four candidates will serve 2 year terms and the next three will
> serve 1 year terms" and here's the ordered list:
>
> 1. Walter Bender
> 2. Lionel Laské
> 3. Adam Holt
> 4. Sameer Verma
> 5. Claudia Urrea
> 6. Tony Anderson
> 7. Jose Miguel Garcia
>
> Therefore Tony, Jose Miguel, and Claudia's seats will be elected this
> year.
>
> I guess it only makes sense to have an election if there are more
> candidates than seats. Right?
>
>
> Laura
>
> 2016-12-01 16:06 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>
>> This year I am not on the election committee because I am very involved
>> in setting up an OSSIE track for SCaLE. I don't know who is on the
>> committee this time or what their time table is. It probably should be
>> finalized at tomorrow's meeting.
>>
>>
>> Caryl
>> --
>> *From:* Laura Vargas 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:37:16 PM
>> *To:* Caryl Bigenho; Dave Crossland
>> *Cc:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org; samson
>> goddy; Tony Anderson
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
>>
>> Caryl,
>>
>> I Agree with you, we should be patient. The academia certification system
>> consumes a lot of time from people :P
>>
>> You lead last year election time table, Any news this year?
>>
>> Dave,
>>
>> I recall you also joined the Elections Committee early this year, I hope
>> you still have time :D
>>
>> Regards and blessings,
>>
>> Laura Victoria
>>
>>
>> 2016-12-01 14:47 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>>
>>> I agree with Dave, we should wait for Sameer's guidance in this process.
>>>
>>> Caryl
>>> --
>>> *From:* IAEP  on behalf of Laura
>>> Vargas 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:13:55 AM
>>> *To:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> *Cc:* Tony Anderson; Dave Crossland
>>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
>>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> I am really interested in continue helping the community to shape it's
>>> vision for the following 10-15 years.
>>>
>>> I believe society in general, needs urgently to rescue respect for the
>>> voice of women and young girls, specially in free/libre-culture/software
>>> projects.
>>>
>>> That said I have found that helping out is easier when your voice also
>>> has a vote attached.
>>>
>>> That's why I present my candidacy for the commingling board elections.
>>> Sebastian has shared with me he has no time to be part of this years
>>> election (is it 3 seats? is it for 2017-2019?) committee, so I ask all the
>>> other members to please set the time line in tomorrow's meeting.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for the time!
>>>
>>> Blessings and regards,
>>>
>>> Laura Victoria
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2016-12-01 12:07 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland :
>>>
>>>> The discussion stopped because we are waiting for Sameer to publish the
>>>> second episode of his video about the process of formally defining a
>>>> vision, mission, goals, tasks and doing a swot analysis and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Sameer proposed and I think we all agreed that each of us throwing our
>>>> own unilateral attempts at each other was not productive
>>>>
>>>> (resent from correct email address)
>>>>
>>>> ___
>>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>>>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Laura V.
>>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>>
>>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire
>>> IRC kaametza
>>>
>>> Happy Learning!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Laura V.
>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>
>> Happy Learning!
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Laura V.
> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>
> Identi.ca/Skype acaire
> IRC kaametza
>
> Happy Learning!
>
>
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Laura Vargas]

Quoting Dave:

http://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_dd38dc6aa11d1a98 says
"The top four candidates will serve 2 year terms and the next three will
serve 1 year terms" and here's the ordered list:

1. Walter Bender
2. Lionel Laské
3. Adam Holt
4. Sameer Verma
5. Claudia Urrea
6. Tony Anderson
7. Jose Miguel Garcia

Therefore Tony, Jose Miguel, and Claudia's seats will be elected this year.

I guess it only makes sense to have an election if there are more
candidates than seats. Right?


Laura

2016-12-01 16:06 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :

> This year I am not on the election committee because I am very involved in
> setting up an OSSIE track for SCaLE. I don't know who is on the committee
> this time or what their time table is. It probably should be finalized at
> tomorrow's meeting.
>
>
> Caryl
> --
> *From:* Laura Vargas 
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:37:16 PM
> *To:* Caryl Bigenho; Dave Crossland
> *Cc:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org; samson goddy;
> Tony Anderson
>
> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
>
> Caryl,
>
> I Agree with you, we should be patient. The academia certification system
> consumes a lot of time from people :P
>
> You lead last year election time table, Any news this year?
>
> Dave,
>
> I recall you also joined the Elections Committee early this year, I hope
> you still have time :D
>
> Regards and blessings,
>
> Laura Victoria
>
>
> 2016-12-01 14:47 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :
>
>> I agree with Dave, we should wait for Sameer's guidance in this process.
>>
>> Caryl
>> --
>> *From:* IAEP  on behalf of Laura
>> Vargas 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:13:55 AM
>> *To:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> *Cc:* Tony Anderson; Dave Crossland
>> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
>>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> I am really interested in continue helping the community to shape it's
>> vision for the following 10-15 years.
>>
>> I believe society in general, needs urgently to rescue respect for the
>> voice of women and young girls, specially in free/libre-culture/software
>> projects.
>>
>> That said I have found that helping out is easier when your voice also
>> has a vote attached.
>>
>> That's why I present my candidacy for the commingling board elections.
>> Sebastian has shared with me he has no time to be part of this years
>> election (is it 3 seats? is it for 2017-2019?) committee, so I ask all the
>> other members to please set the time line in tomorrow's meeting.
>>
>> Thank you all for the time!
>>
>> Blessings and regards,
>>
>> Laura Victoria
>>
>>
>>
>> 2016-12-01 12:07 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland :
>>
>>> The discussion stopped because we are waiting for Sameer to publish the
>>> second episode of his video about the process of formally defining a
>>> vision, mission, goals, tasks and doing a swot analysis and so on.
>>>
>>> Sameer proposed and I think we all agreed that each of us throwing our
>>> own unilateral attempts at each other was not productive
>>>
>>> (resent from correct email address)
>>>
>>> ___
>>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
>>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Laura V.
>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>>
>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire
>> IRC kaametza
>>
>> Happy Learning!
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Laura V.
> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org
>
> Happy Learning!
>
>


-- 
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Caryl Bigenho]

This year I am not on the election committee because I am very involved in 
setting up an OSSIE track for SCaLE. I don't know who is on the committee this 
time or what their time table is. It probably should be finalized at tomorrow's 
meeting.


Caryl


From: Laura Vargas 
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:37:16 PM
To: Caryl Bigenho; Dave Crossland
Cc: SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org; samson goddy; Tony 
Anderson
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

Caryl,

I Agree with you, we should be patient. The academia certification system 
consumes a lot of time from people :P

You lead last year election time table, Any news this year?

Dave,

I recall you also joined the Elections Committee early this year, I hope you 
still have time :D

Regards and blessings,

Laura Victoria


2016-12-01 14:47 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho 
mailto:cbige...@hotmail.com>>:

I agree with Dave, we should wait for Sameer's guidance in this process.

Caryl


From: IAEP 
mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org>> on 
behalf of Laura Vargas mailto:la...@somosazucar.org>>
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:13:55 AM
To: SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; 
sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org<mailto:sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org>
Cc: Tony Anderson; Dave Crossland
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

Hi all!

I am really interested in continue helping the community to shape it's vision 
for the following 10-15 years.

I believe society in general, needs urgently to rescue respect for the voice of 
women and young girls, specially in free/libre-culture/software projects.

That said I have found that helping out is easier when your voice also has a 
vote attached.

That's why I present my candidacy for the commingling board elections. 
Sebastian has shared with me he has no time to be part of this years election 
(is it 3 seats? is it for 2017-2019?) committee, so I ask all the other members 
to please set the time line in tomorrow's meeting.

Thank you all for the time!

Blessings and regards,

Laura Victoria



2016-12-01 12:07 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland mailto:d...@lab6.com>>:

The discussion stopped because we are waiting for Sameer to publish the second 
episode of his video about the process of formally defining a vision, mission, 
goals, tasks and doing a swot analysis and so on.

Sameer proposed and I think we all agreed that each of us throwing our own 
unilateral attempts at each other was not productive

(resent from correct email address)

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Laura Vargas]

Caryl,

I Agree with you, we should be patient. The academia certification system
consumes a lot of time from people :P

You lead last year election time table, Any news this year?

Dave,

I recall you also joined the Elections Committee early this year, I hope
you still have time :D

Regards and blessings,

Laura Victoria


2016-12-01 14:47 GMT-05:00 Caryl Bigenho :

> I agree with Dave, we should wait for Sameer's guidance in this process.
>
> Caryl
> --
> *From:* IAEP  on behalf of Laura Vargas
> 
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:13:55 AM
> *To:* SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org
> *Cc:* Tony Anderson; Dave Crossland
> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs
>
> Hi all!
>
> I am really interested in continue helping the community to shape it's
> vision for the following 10-15 years.
>
> I believe society in general, needs urgently to rescue respect for the
> voice of women and young girls, specially in free/libre-culture/software
> projects.
>
> That said I have found that helping out is easier when your voice also has
> a vote attached.
>
> That's why I present my candidacy for the commingling board elections.
> Sebastian has shared with me he has no time to be part of this years
> election (is it 3 seats? is it for 2017-2019?) committee, so I ask all the
> other members to please set the time line in tomorrow's meeting.
>
> Thank you all for the time!
>
> Blessings and regards,
>
> Laura Victoria
>
>
>
> 2016-12-01 12:07 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland :
>
>> The discussion stopped because we are waiting for Sameer to publish the
>> second episode of his video about the process of formally defining a
>> vision, mission, goals, tasks and doing a swot analysis and so on.
>>
>> Sameer proposed and I think we all agreed that each of us throwing our
>> own unilateral attempts at each other was not productive
>>
>> (resent from correct email address)
>>
>> ___
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>>
>
>
>
> --
> Laura V.
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>
> Identi.ca/Skype acaire
> IRC kaametza
>
> Happy Learning!
>
>


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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Caryl Bigenho]

I agree with Dave, we should wait for Sameer's guidance in this process.

Caryl


From: IAEP  on behalf of Laura Vargas 

Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 10:13:55 AM
To: SLOBs; IAEP SugarLabs; sugar-...@lists.sugarlabs.org
Cc: Tony Anderson; Dave Crossland
Subject: Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

Hi all!

I am really interested in continue helping the community to shape it's vision 
for the following 10-15 years.

I believe society in general, needs urgently to rescue respect for the voice of 
women and young girls, specially in free/libre-culture/software projects.

That said I have found that helping out is easier when your voice also has a 
vote attached.

That's why I present my candidacy for the commingling board elections. 
Sebastian has shared with me he has no time to be part of this years election 
(is it 3 seats? is it for 2017-2019?) committee, so I ask all the other members 
to please set the time line in tomorrow's meeting.

Thank you all for the time!

Blessings and regards,

Laura Victoria



2016-12-01 12:07 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland mailto:d...@lab6.com>>:

The discussion stopped because we are waiting for Sameer to publish the second 
episode of his video about the process of formally defining a vision, mission, 
goals, tasks and doing a swot analysis and so on.

Sameer proposed and I think we all agreed that each of us throwing our own 
unilateral attempts at each other was not productive

(resent from correct email address)

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Laura Vargas]

Hi all!

I am really interested in continue helping the community to shape it's
vision for the following 10-15 years.

I believe society in general, needs urgently to rescue respect for the
voice of women and young girls, specially in free/libre-culture/software
projects.

That said I have found that helping out is easier when your voice also has
a vote attached.

That's why I present my candidacy for the commingling board elections.
Sebastian has shared with me he has no time to be part of this years
election (is it 3 seats? is it for 2017-2019?) committee, so I ask all the
other members to please set the time line in tomorrow's meeting.

Thank you all for the time!

Blessings and regards,

Laura Victoria



2016-12-01 12:07 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland :

> The discussion stopped because we are waiting for Sameer to publish the
> second episode of his video about the process of formally defining a
> vision, mission, goals, tasks and doing a swot analysis and so on.
>
> Sameer proposed and I think we all agreed that each of us throwing our own
> unilateral attempts at each other was not productive
>
> (resent from correct email address)
>
> ___
> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>



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I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org

Identi.ca/Skype acaire
IRC kaametza

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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Dave Crossland]

The discussion stopped because we are waiting for Sameer to publish the
second episode of his video about the process of formally defining a
vision, mission, goals, tasks and doing a swot analysis and so on.

Sameer proposed and I think we all agreed that each of us throwing our own
unilateral attempts at each other was not productive

(resent from correct email address)
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Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Future of Sugar Labs

[Walter Bender]

I might quibble a bit with some of the wording but I am good with this.
I'll work on another draft before tomorrow's meeting (19UTC on
irc.freenode.net).

regards.

-walter

On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:31 AM, Tony Anderson  wrote:

> The December meetings is coming soon. At the beginning of the year, Lionel
> Laske proposed that we
> consider a vision for the future of Sugar Labs. Like a rock dropped in the
> pond, there was considerable discussion
> initially which has died away to invisibility.
>
> I would propose that Sugar Labs adopt the following at the next meeting:
>
> Sugar is a learning platform based on the constructivist educational
> principles of Jean Piaget, Seymour Papert, and Alan Kay. Sugar Labs
> is the organization responsible to develop, distribute, and support Sugar
> with the help of a global volunteer community of contributors. Sugar Labs
> provides Sugar in two forms: Sugar for personal computers and XOs and
> Sugarizer (Sugar Mobile) for mobile devices.
>
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