The current maximum size of a page data set is 4GB, making the maximum
local paging space 253 * 4GB, which is a little less than 1TB (and
considerably less than 4TB).
IMHO, that makes a hardcoded default of 4T (with the potential of it really
getting used) so much more ridiculous.
By way of a
Wisdom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Is it possible to drop it?
Yes, System Automation automates your operator tasks. If your operators can do
the work manually, you don't have to automate it. The question is: can they
really?
Kees.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:18:42 +0100, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And now that I have gotten the good idea to write my own monitor to show me
who is using storage above the bar, I still wonder why RMF for 1.6 doesn't
show this.
Barbara,
Please get your company to agree to your donating
In a message dated 11/1/2005 5:40:30 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Please get your company to agree to your donating this code to the CBT tape.
Truly, guess I'm curious as why not report a big honkin' defect?
Please get your company to agree to your donating this code to the CBT
tape.
That shouldn't be a problem - we're using stuff from the cbttape ourselves.
And I had intended to donate, anyway.
Maybe Roland will be faster having this display in ShowZOS, though
Regards, Barbara
--
Lust, ein
Truly, guess I'm curious as why not report a big honkin' defect?
It is sort of documented that DB2 doesn't honour IEFUSI - not spelled out in
brutal clarity and worded very carefully, but the DB2 apar says that they
don't honour memlimits below 4TB. So I don't see that reporting a 'defect'
has
Hmmmh.. I believe Mark Zelden Rexx code will be faster.
Roland
Please get your company to agree to your donating this code to the CBT
tape.
That shouldn't be a problem - we're using stuff from the cbttape ourselves.
And I had intended to donate, anyway.
Maybe Roland will be faster
In a message dated 11/1/2005 7:23:10 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So I better spend my time writing my monitor program to get alerted once
things go downhill than spend the energy to argue with IBM. I'll leave that
to the SHARE memebrs - maybe a topic for the next
Agreed - for a one-off display, it probably fits better in IPLINFO than
ShowZos.
I almost knocked up something to send to Mark today, but got way-laid by
real work :o)
For a SMF data logging requirement, perhaps Barbaras solution is better.
Of course if IBM would get off it's collective
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:22:32 +0100, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't consider what DB2 does right and I think that their setting is
asinine given what we now learned about the possible paging config. So the
only chance I see is submitting an RCF that the Extended addressability
guide
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:18:42 +0100, Barbara Nitz wrote:
The current maximum size of a page data set is 4GB, making the maximum
local paging space 253 * 4GB, which is a little less than 1TB (and
considerably less than 4TB).
IMHO, that makes a hardcoded default of 4T (with the potential of it
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 14:23:20 +0100, Roland Schiradin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hmmmh.. I believe Mark Zelden Rexx code will be faster.
Roland
Roland took a couple of my other programs and modified them into
something to show MEMLIMIT and 64-bit usage for all address spaces.
I'm cleaning it up a
In a message dated 11/1/2005 8:29:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
is POSSIBLE for a z/OS 1.7 system. DB2 V8 is clearly broken by
thoughtless design.
Maybe they're putting into effect what Ray Wicks(circa 1991) described as
'current modeling uses infinite
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Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 9:00 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: MEMLIMIT and IEFUSI
In a message dated 11/1/2005 8:29:21 A.M. Central Standard Time,
There was a Technote about free Web-based training for Workload Simulator
for z/OS and OS/390 Version 1.1 :
http://www.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=788context=SSL28Ldc=DB520uid=swg21202828loc=en_UScs=UTF-8lang=en
Bill
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 13:37:47 -0500, WA Stout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 31, 2005, at 11:16 PM, Craddock, Chris wrote:
SNIP good info---
Other than the unarguable truth that above the bar is a really big
place, why are we obsessing about it?
CC
Chris:
I am not a DB2 person, but it would seem reasonable to me that IBM
The cover letter for PTF OA13722 has the DFSORT symptoms as
IEB351I I/O ERROR ,TSO1158Q,GEN1,0757,T, which seems suspicious,
Bill
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:49:53 -0800, Frank Yaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard Pinion wrote on 10/31/2005 09:28:00 AM:
It looks like PTF UA21783 may
Barbara,
You wouldn't happen to know offhand the DB2 APAR number that you referenced
in the opening message of this thread?
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
Western Metal Supply
NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own.
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 10/28/2005
at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Possibly, but I don't think so.I was probably over-reacting.We don't
implement a 4TB system overnight.We plan and understand (sometimes on
both points)
K3wl. What do you do when someone fails to plan? The
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 10/31/2005
at 09:00 AM, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
My space admin tells me that to support additional 4TB of paging
config I would need 360 additional mod3 volumes.
Why mod3? Why not max sized[1] custom volumes.
[1] Max sized for paging use; still smaller
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
10/31/2005
at 04:16 AM, Mike Liberatore [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Need to implement a new naming standard. What would be the best way
to rename my SMPE ZONES?
I'd suggest including T or D and the release level in the target and
dlib zone names. If you are generating
We are z/os and z/os.e 1.4 in a basic sysplex (JES2 MAS) on a 2086-0A4.
We did an orderly shutdown for a POR. Both JES's responded to a $PJES2
and ended normally.
When we came back, the SYSLOG was missing on both LPARs between the time
of the last W L and the IPL. We very rarely IPL (this was
I found the APAR, it is PK03680. I put a posting on the DB2 list, where a
number of DB2 development folks post, to see if they have any insight. I
will summarize and forward any comments.
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
Western Metal Supply
NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own.
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 09:14:17 -0600 McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
:That's how our people design. They ASSuME infinite wall clock time,
:infinite CPU cycles, infinite DASD space, 0 milliseconds to mount a
:tape, etc.
If you assume infinite wall clock time, why would you care how fast a tape
I am not a DB2 person, but it would seem reasonable to me that IBM
should(in the documentation) make it clear that there are *NEW* major
requirements for DB2 (and what the new requirements are), so the
appropriate people can make the adjustments necessary.
A few people seem to be piling on
I don't know how many releases ago, but, IBM published a manual called
Module Descriptions. The manual contained concise information about
modules and some of the attributes.
Does IBM have anything similar now?
We are going through a security audit and Sarbannes-Oxley compliance. I
keep
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:16:01 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:
We are z/os and z/os.e 1.4 in a basic sysplex (JES2 MAS) on a 2086-0A4.
We did an orderly shutdown for a POR. Both JES's responded to a $PJES2
and ended normally.
When we came back, the SYSLOG was missing on both LPARs between the time
of the
Big Iron wrote on 11/01/2005 07:51:57 AM:
The cover letter for PTF OA13722 has the DFSORT symptoms as
IEB351I I/O ERROR ,TSO1158Q,GEN1,0757,T, which seems
suspicious,
Bill
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:49:53 -0800, Frank Yaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Richard Pinion wrote on
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Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Module description
I don't know how many releases ago, but, IBM published a manual called
Module
Shouldn't any competent auditor who is asking about a vendor's programs know
that they have to ask the vendor, not the user? Shouldn't your only
response have to be Ask IBM?
Oops. Is competent auditor an oxymoron?
Peter
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Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Module description
Shouldn't any competent auditor who is asking about a
vendor's
Can anyone help me... Today we downloaded our serverpac via the web for
z/OS 1.7. One of the bad things is we don't get hard copies anymore of the
install guide they crated with the products we ordered. They do give it to
use in Book manager format but im having a hard time printing it. We
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 08:37:43 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Roland took a couple of my other programs and modified them into
something to show MEMLIMIT and 64-bit usage for all address spaces.
I'm cleaning it up a little (Roland, those used values were in bytes,
not KB) and will post
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:16:01 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:
We are z/os and z/os.e 1.4 in a basic sysplex (JES2 MAS) on a 2086-0A4.
We did an orderly shutdown for a POR. Both JES's responded to a $PJES2
and ended normally.
When we came back, the SYSLOG was missing on both LPARs between the
time of
Now for the ability to browse a temp dataset instead of just the SAY commands.
grin
Bob Richards
Technologist
Enterprise Technology Infrastructure
SunTrust Banks, Inc.
(404) 575-2798
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:15:31 -0500, Richards.Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Now for the ability to browse a temp dataset instead of just the SAY
commands. grin
I have canned code to add that if I want. I have just been using my
TSOB exec that traps the output. Most shops have one of those
In a message dated 11/1/2005 12:02:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
HP printers attached via VPS and I don't know script at all, can someone
direct to me to a manual or instructions on how to print it? I don't see a
PDF formatted one and we like it in hard copy to
DB2 V8 and SYNCSORT are the only two tools which allocation storage
above the 2G BAR so far.
I am very happy to trade our memory for reduced SIO's against our DASD
pools.
6 4 - B I T S T O R A G E A L L O C A T I O N
Hi all,
I have exhausted my resources trying to find out why this doesn't work.
After applying some z/OS maintenance, I am continually getting the
dreaded
EJS3017E IBM WebSphere Application Server for OS390 native plugin
initialization failed :-(
. F646C48 31/Oct/2005:15:16:14.911690.:
I had the same problem (i think) check the output class of Jobclass(STC)
is it going to a dummy class?. also check the syslog of the IPL.
do you see the output of syslog getting purged?
also remember to enter 'halt EOD' or 'Z eod' last b4 shutdown (closes
syslog)
I ipl every saturday of
I like that Contact Mark Zelden part at the end. I'm putting that in all my
stuff now.
Jon
snip
First cut.
/*/
/* This exec will show the MEMLIMIT and 64-bit storage allocation*/
/* for all tasks running in the system.
Knutson, Sam wrote:
DB2 V8 and SYNCSORT are the only two tools which allocation storage
above the 2G BAR so far.
Guess it all depends on what you're running. I just tried it on one of
our little test systems and came up with:
| 6 4 - B I T S T O R A G E A L L O C A T I O N
|
Yes, I have TSOB laying around somewhere! And my own versions that do the same
thing. I know you know I was poking fun at you.
Great job with this! Another great tool to add to my collection of your code.
Apologies to the rest of you for wasting your time while I was teasing Mark.
Bob
You have a girly-man DB2?
Jon
snip
Guess it all depends on what you're running. I just tried it on one of
our little test systems and came up with:
| 6 4 - B I T S T O R A G E A L L O C A T I O N
|
| TASK MEMORY NUMALLOC HIDDEN HWMMEMLIM
| NAME LIMIT
Jon Brock wrote:
I like that Contact Mark Zelden part at the end. I'm putting that in all my
stuff now.
Jon
What? In your code you have a message to contact Mark?
Outsourcing at its finest.
Kind regards,
-Steve Comstock
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 13:22:40 EST, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/1/2005 12:02:41 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
HP printers attached via VPS and I don't know script at all, can someone
direct to me to a manual or instructions on how to print it?
Asked our resident expert if he had any info for you, as it had sounded
familiar to me. . . .
Here's his response.
Well, this reads z/OS maintenance, so this is not where I've seen
problems directly - however, what we did see after maintenance was cut
over was that in the cutover process
NEVER mind IBM gave us a solution with a plug in for AFP... Thanks to
anyone who responded
FYI the plug in can be found at
http://www-1.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=95context=SRNPPZq=psd1*uid=psd1P4000233
Andy S White
Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Forwarded by Andy S
In addition we were seeing problems with tape output processing with IDCAMS and
FDRDSF. PTF UA21783 has fixed all of the problems.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/1/2005 10:51:57 AM
The cover letter for PTF OA13722 has the DFSORT symptoms as
IEB351I I/O ERROR ,TSO1158Q,GEN1,0757,T, which
That's an understatement!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/1/2005 12:16:11 PM
Big Iron wrote on 11/01/2005 07:51:57 AM:
The cover letter for PTF OA13722 has the DFSORT symptoms as
IEB351I I/O ERROR ,TSO1158Q,GEN1,0757,T, which seems
suspicious,
Bill
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 10:49:53 -0800,
In a message dated 11/1/2005 1:32:54 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
NEVER mind IBM gave us a solution with a plug in for AFP... Thanks to
anyone who responded
That's the ticket! Did they give you a hole punch too?
In a message dated 11/1/2005 1:17:58 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
would search the IBM web site for the manual. I found it in PDF format
quite easily. Actually here's the shortcut:
Isn't he talking about the customized books, unique to his order?
Anyway, see
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 12:54:03 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shouldn't any competent auditor who is asking about a vendor's programs
know
that they have to ask the vendor, not the user? Shouldn't your only
response have to be Ask IBM?
...
I suppose an auditor might be
Being a small shop we are not able to perform extensive testing in another
LPAR. If it IPL's, JES, VTAM, and TSO come up it's tested! Once in production
we stamp out the bugs as they appear.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/1/2005 3:13:09 PM
In a message dated 11/1/2005 1:44:48 P.M. Central Standard
Jon Brock wrote:
You have a girly-man DB2?
Most definitely! :-[
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| Edward E. Jaffe||
| Mgr, Research Development| [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
| Phoenix Software
Thanks for the reply.
I found the problem by looking in the native.log.*.STANDALONE.*:
Tue Nov 1 14:20:02 2005.0516709 - 0F551500. - Error - errno: 205,
__err
no2: 0594003d, loading java library: EDC5205S DLL module not found.
Tue Nov 1 14:20:02 2005.0531410 - 0F551500. -
Tnx Mark, well I'm not a REXX expert but a beta version of SHOWzOS
also contains such a display. I used the REXX to verify my coding.
Will waiting for feedback from Barbara.
The setting for MEMLIMIT can be based on
1-SMF 2-JCL 3-Region=0M 4-IEFUSI 5-OMVS Seg
6-Unix Setrlimit 7-Unix spawn
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:19:55 +0100, Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tnx Mark, well I'm not a REXX expert but a beta version of SHOWzOS
also contains such a display. I used the REXX to verify my coding.
No, thank you. Do my numbers look good?
The setting for
What is 64P ? Is it 64 petabyte ??! 8-o
Thomas Berg
== Edward E. Jaffe == wrote2005-11-01 19:38:
Knutson, Sam wrote:
DB2 V8 and SYNCSORT are the only two tools which allocation storage
above the 2G BAR so far.
Guess it all depends on what you're running. I just tried it
You Rexx code is correct. Took me just three hours in Assembler :-))
(oh well is was quick and dirty) including to understand the SRAG vs. SRA
Will correct the 9.
Roland
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Sent:
Here's SDSF's take on MEMLIMIT:
Display Filter View Print Options Help
---
SDSF DA SYSA SYSA PAG0 SIO 358 CPU
COMMAND INPUT ===
NP JOBNAME CPUCrit StorCrit RptClass MemLimit
*MASTER* NO NO STCDEF16383PB
Brian
Brian Peterson wrote:
Here's SDSF's take on MEMLIMIT:
Display Filter View Print Options Help
---
SDSF DA SYSA SYSA PAG0 SIO 358 CPU
COMMAND INPUT ===
NP JOBNAME CPUCrit StorCrit RptClass MemLimit
*MASTER* NO NO
Hmmm I have MEMLIMIT(6G) coded in SMFPRMxx. Here's a few entries
from SDSF:
Display Filter View Print Options
---
SDSF DA SYSA SYSA PAG0 SIO 435
COMMAND INPUT ===
NP JOBNAME it StorCrit RptClass MemLimit
*MASTER*NO
In SHOWzOS I have the same problem because of using the SRAG R0,R1,10
instruction
to divide. I'll also report 16383P or 15E. Should I fix this??
Roland
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Sent: Wednesday,
My favorite auditor request was when an auditor asked for a printout from my
VM/SP system. I had to leave the meeting before my boss could finish laughing.
The auditor wanted /etc/passwd.
/Tom Kern
--- McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shouldn't any competent auditor who is asking about
Mark, you might want to include these in the code rather than a comment.
I assigned them to a stem, and used that in the display, using RAXLVMEMLIMS
as the stem index. Knock some blanks out of the display line, and you're a
goer :)
For convenience I used source.0 = ** ??? **
Shane ...
Brian Peterson wrote:
Hmmm I have MEMLIMIT(6G) coded in SMFPRMxx. Here's a few entries
from SDSF:
NP JOBNAME it StorCrit RptClass MemLimit
*MASTER*NO STCDEF16383PB
PCAUTH NO PCAUTH
XCFAS NO XCFSTC16383PB
GRS NO
All,
Reviewing documentation on the DS8100 921 unit and needed to understand
NVS sizes for this unit. I thought I read in earlier documentation the NVS
size was based upon the size of cache memory. 16GB cache memory 1GB NVS,
32GB cache memory, 2GB NVS, 64GB cache member, etc. Now I'm
Sorry if this is off-topic for some of you reading these lists, but
I wanted
to make certain that everyone who MIGHT vote has a chance to vote on
some SHARE
requirements that are currently out-for-vote. If you are a SHARE rep
- or you
company is a SHARE member installation
AND
if any
In a message dated 11/1/2005 8:28:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry if this is off-topic for some of you reading these lists, but
I wanted
to make certain that everyone who MIGHT vote has a chance to vote on
some SHARE
For the few shares of stock I own,
At 09:02 -0800 on 11/01/2005, Mark Yuhas wrote about Module description:
We are going through a security audit and Sarbannes-Oxley compliance. I
keep getting questions about obscure [IBM] modules and their functions.
In my opinion, the Auditor has NO valid reason to be asking this
question
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