Re: Abend 002-04 extracting SMF records

2006-03-15 Thread R.S.
Kok, Howi wrote: Thanks for the help. I found that I have to specify DCB=(LRECL=32756,RECFM=VBS,BLKSIZE=32760) in the input DD regardless of IFASMFDP or SORT to get by. Will specifying the LRECL during the initialization of the data set solve this problem? Do you mean new dataset creation ?

Re: Production Jobs contention with Test Jobs

2006-03-15 Thread James Smith
Problem is we don't know which resources he is talking about. Then again perhaps neither does he. It may or may not be datasets - could be CPU, storage, tape units, printers -- did I forget anything?? Jim S -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Control-M abends with non-standard screen size: PTF is available

2006-03-15 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
A while ago, I opened a thread discussing problems with Control-M and non-standard screen sizes. Some reported they have the same problem. My colleage told me that he's got a PTF for Control-M that's supposed to fix the problem. Althought, I haven't had a chance yet to test this, I thought you

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-15 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
//TMP EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01, // PARM='EX ''VB.INPUT'' LIST CLIST' //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD DUMMY It seems I have supplanted the CLIST facility ;-) Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE

Z9-109 - Processor Selection

2006-03-15 Thread Meganen Naidoo - BCX - Data Centre Services
Hi, Please could you give me your thoughts on the following :- * Currently, at each of our two 'high-availability' sites, we have an IBM Z990-303 and an IBM Z890 (one a 450 and the other a 240). * In July this year we are moving the whole data centre to our own premises (the

Re: New CLIST on SYSPROC - refresh

2006-03-15 Thread R.S.
Jim Mulder wrote: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/14/2006 11:30:42 AM: Two ways: 1. Insert new member to PDS on SYSPROC concatenation. 2. Update existing member of the library. I've got to admit I didn't investigate to much. Just discovered that VLF

Re: New CLIST on SYSPROC - refresh

2006-03-15 Thread R.S.
Skip Robinson wrote: No one has suggested looking at LLA. SYS1.PARMLIB member CSVLLA00 may contain an entry like this: FREEZE(SYS1.CMDPROC) or whatever the library name is. If so, changes to a member--add, update, delete--are not recognized until LLA REFRESH. The purpose of FREEZE is to

Re: Wishing for a JCL based PARMLIB Concatenation search

2006-03-15 Thread Julian Levens
Joshua I've solved this locally by arranging for the first PROC in my startup (well before JES2) to run an IEBCOPY which copies all the parms in the appropriate concatenation into a single PDSE as follows: //LPARM PROC //LPARM EXEC PGM=IEBCOPY,TIME=10 //P1DD

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/14/2006 at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No, command == TSO command Statement == line within file You're overlooking continuation lines. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Wishing for a JCL based PARMLIB Concatenation search

2006-03-15 Thread Jousma, David
Long post... Charles, (and Ed, Shane, and Mark) and all, It would be really nice if vendors picked up on this and added the functionality, but I don't see it happening. Not all sites want to have a common parmlib for all products, so why force anyone into this? Mark, you gave a good

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
No, command == TSO command Statement == line within file You're overlooking continuation lines. Actually, I'm not. The poster I replied to was confused about the statement: Each command must start on a new statement. That was what I was trying to clarify. A continuation is not a new statement.

FW: Wishing for a JCL based PARMLIB Concatenation search

2006-03-15 Thread Jousma, David
I should qualify our maintenance process. We don't go to the extent of using the MIGRAT parmlib and proclib unless there is a need, ususally just for the z/OS upgrade. The OEM upgrades are not quite as invasive. Dave Dave Jousma

Re: Z9-109 - Processor Selection

2006-03-15 Thread Richards.Bob
Meganen, There is more to this than the limited information that you have provided. It would be very easy for me to say go with the z9 and be done with it. Justifying that statement, however, requires the information you have not provided. What types of workloads to you have? DB2? VSAM? The

Accessing The Archives

2006-03-15 Thread willie bunter
I would like to access the Archives but I don't know how. Can anybody please direct me? Thanks in advance. Willie - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze.

Re: Accessing The Archives

2006-03-15 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KRDO 4)
There's a pointer in the footer of every message posted. Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/14/2006 at 11:41 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: IBM's lexical conventions, traceable to the limitations of the 029 keypunch and 407 card reader Not even close. No professor, having a limited number of lectures to deliver, will choose to waste any of

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/14/2006 at 12:14 PM, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Each command or subcommand must begin on a separate statement. That sounds like a candidate for an RCF. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/14/2006 at 03:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I know, but it could also be cabled to a 70* computer and used as a printer and card reader, in which case it could read only 72 columns of each card. There was certainly a 716[1] printer for the 7090

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/14/2006 at 08:25 PM, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The real reason I'm posting - and again relying on positively antique OS education - is that I have always treated it as a golden rule of data set concatenation that the attributes of the first data set in the

Re: Accessing The Archives

2006-03-15 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of willie bunter I would like to access the Archives but I don't know how. Can anybody please direct me? Instructions are at the bottom of every post submitted to the listserv, including this one. -jc-

Initiator hung

2006-03-15 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi If someone has seen something like this: Two of our inactive initiators don't want to accept job's, they are just hung. - z/OS 1.5 - Non WLM managed initiators, - no MAS , - no SYSPLEX , - init stop/start seems to not help - we have applied two day's before some JES2 SYSPLEX MAS PTF's -

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:48:58 -0500 In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/14/2006 at 03:08 PM, Paul Gilmartin [log in to unmask] said: I know, but it could also be cabled to a 70* computer and used as a printer and card reader, in which

Re: Accessing The Archives

2006-03-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Read the trailer inserted by the list serve! - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -Original Message- From: willie bunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:56:31 To:IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Accessing The Archives I would

Re: Accessing The Archives

2006-03-15 Thread TISLER Zaromil
Read the trailer inserted by the list serve! I have problems when searching the archives today. Zaromil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET

Z9-109 - Processor Selection

2006-03-15 Thread Phil Payne
.. otherwise, your guess is as good as mine or anyone else's. Not necessarily true. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-15 Thread Ulrich Boche
Norbert Friemel wrote: Ulrich, how about this: 1) create a simple two line rexx in data set A.B.EXEC: /* rexx */ Or replace //TMP EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN DD DISP=OLD,DSN=VB.INPUT with //TMP EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,

Re: Accessing The Archives

2006-03-15 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/15/2006 6:56:55 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to access the Archives but I don't know how. Can anybody please direct me? They've got a two for one offer at Vision Max? At the bottom of every posting: For IBM-MAIN subscribe

permissions and user list sys1.man1

2006-03-15 Thread Luis Correia
Hi to you all! This is my fist post to this list. I'm playing with z/OS, and I know that the smf data sets are sys1.man1. How can I see what are the users who access and their permissions to sys1.man1 Thanks -- Regards / Cumprimentos, Luís Correia

Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
First a correction of my own typo. I was familiar with a 407 at the University of Colorado circa 1970, not mid-1950's. (Not quite that old, yet.) And it was standalone on the job prep floor, not connected to any computer. In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Wed, 15

Re: SMP/E for non-sysprogs?

2006-03-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/13/2006 at 04:02 PM, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I've seen MVS system programmers install a product and then never apply maintenance because they cared nothing about the product. (They felt it was not their dog even after claiming ownership.) That, of

SMF data sets access

2006-03-15 Thread Luis Correia
Hi to you all! This is my fist post to this list. I'm playing with z/OS, and I know that the smf data sets are sys1.man1. How can I see who are the users who access and their permissions to sys1.man1 Thanks in advanced! -- Cumprimentos, Luís Correia

Re: Z9-109 - Processor Selection

2006-03-15 Thread Richards.Bob
And not necessarily untrue either based on the limited information he provided. Granted, Phil, your guess would probably be a more accurate and informed one, but the types of questions that I was asking are ones that need answers to provide a more qualified guess. Of interest, maybe only to

Re: New CLIST on SYSPROC - refresh

2006-03-15 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/15/2006 04:55:52 AM: Jim Mulder wrote: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/14/2006 11:30:42 AM: Two ways: 1. Insert new member to PDS on SYSPROC concatenation. 2. Update existing member of the

Re: SMF data sets access

2006-03-15 Thread Dean Montevago
If you have the RACF special attribute do: SR MASK(SYS1) Find the profile that masks the SYS1.MANx datasets, then do: LD p(profile) all For a list of authorized users the universal access (UACC) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: New CLIST on SYSPROC - refresh

2006-03-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:12:13 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Out of curiosity: Can LLA be used for non load module libraries ? I just RTFM, my understanding is you can use PDS's or PDSE's containing binary programs (RECFM=U, load module or program object). Yes. I was just talking about

Re: Z9-109 - Processor Selection

2006-03-15 Thread Norman Hollander
There is just a bit more to be considered. Beside IBM incentives to move to this Processor, there may be other decision points: - Yes, a single engine is faster (including general purpose, IFL, ICF, zAAP, zIIP) * Watch out for Latent Demand * zPCR can help you size

Re: New CLIST on SYSPROC - refresh

2006-03-15 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/15/2006 05:12:13 AM: Skip Robinson wrote: No one has suggested looking at LLA. SYS1.PARMLIB member CSVLLA00 may contain an entry like this: FREEZE(SYS1.CMDPROC) or whatever the library name is. If so, changes to a

Re: permissions and user list sys1.man1

2006-03-15 Thread Alan C. Field
Luis, This sounds like a question based in Unix terms. Access to resources (programs, TSO, datasets etc.) on a z/OS system is controlled by one of three security products. RACF from IBM, Top Secret from CA or ACF2 also from CA. Rules are defined within these products. To determine which

Re: SMF data sets access

2006-03-15 Thread Luis Correia
Thanks Dean! just one more question... is it possible to see this information in the listuser report ? On 3/15/06, Dean Montevago [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you have the RACF special attribute do: SR MASK(SYS1) Find the profile that masks the SYS1.MANx datasets, then do: LD p(profile) all

Re: Search for text in load modules

2006-03-15 Thread Galambos, Robert
Fred Have you tried using File-AID MVS to do the search that you want. If you want, feel free in contacting the support number in AUS to get any of these type of questions answered feel free in either contacting the local HOTLINE number or on frontline.compuware.com which is our internet

Re: permissions and user list sys1.man1

2006-03-15 Thread Luis Correia
Thanks Alan! In fact I don't have experience in mainframe...i'm more a unix guy! The system where i'm working have RACF. Expect some more basic/stupid questions... On 3/15/06, Alan C. Field [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis, This sounds like a question based in Unix terms. Access to

Re: SMF data sets access

2006-03-15 Thread Dean Montevago
From an LU command no. If you run IRRUT100 against a userid or group you will see what profiles they have access to. Not sure if it shows the level of access, it's been a long time since I've run it. At one time, if you ran it against the live RACF database it would put a reserve on it. I'd

map of MVS control blocks

2006-03-15 Thread Bill Larsen
Dear all I am looking for a map of mvs control blocks with all the relations between them, do you know where i can have it ? Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL

pax question / cross post

2006-03-15 Thread Howard Rifkind
I have a quick question regarding the pax command. I'm in the process of making a clone but I had a fingure check and I was wondering if you could tell me if I did any damage or what. I meant to do pax -rw -pe -v -X / /newroot Instead I hit the enter key before I completed keying

Re: IBM List of FMID's

2006-03-15 Thread Howard Rifkind
Ed, the second URL is a good one ... Thanks. Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/10/2006 8:58:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At one time I had a url which pointed to an IBM web site where you could find all the FMID's. Would any one remember or

Re: map of MVS control blocks

2006-03-15 Thread Charles Mills
Hope you have a very big piece of paper g. Once upon a time the L or Y manual that became the Data Areas books had a map of the pointer relationships among the fundamental control blocks, but that was a long time ago. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Migrating Off IBM Mainframes

2006-03-15 Thread Kopischke, David G.
Greetings, From SearchDataCenter yesterday: Simon Schuster Inc. plans to save $1 million a year on hardware costs and licensing fees as a result of migrating off its old IBM mainframes.

Re: map of MVS control blocks

2006-03-15 Thread Steve Arnett
The Data Areas for 1.7 are online here...http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/IEA2BK60 Bill Larsen wrote: Dear all I am looking for a map of mvs control blocks with all the relations between them, do you know where i can have it ? Regards

Re: Z9-109 - Processor Selection

2006-03-15 Thread Mohammad Khan
May be he is just trying to be a Payne in the ...! On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:52:11 -0500, Richards.Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of interest, maybe only to me, is why you chose to nitpick my response instead of providing a better guess. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: map of MVS control blocks

2006-03-15 Thread John Eells
Bill Larsen wrote: Dear all I am looking for a map of mvs control blocks with all the relations between them, do you know where i can have it ? snip I don't know of one that covers them all...and if there were one, that would be *quite* a diagram! We document a thousand or so of them in

Re: IBM List of FMID's

2006-03-15 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/15/2006 10:52:47 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ed, the second URL is a good one ... Thanks. Don't know what the deal is with AOL. I've been trying to get plain text in REPLYs for about a year now. I only entered the one url but AOL inserts

Re: IBM List of FMID's

2006-03-15 Thread Kirk Talman
AOL is indistinguishable from the illegimate child of m$win and the Lord of the flies IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/15/2006 12:32:03 PM: snip Don't know what the deal is with AOL. I've been trying to get plain ... -

Re: Accessing The Archives

2006-03-15 Thread Darren Evans-Young
That problem has been rectified. Darren List Owner On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, TISLER Zaromil wrote: Read the trailer inserted by the list serve! I have problems when searching the archives today. Zaromil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: IBM List of FMID's

2006-03-15 Thread Steve Comstock
Kirk Talman wrote: AOL is indistinguishable from the illegimate child of m$win and the Lord of the flies But how do you really feel? Actually, I like AOL for a number of reasons, such as: 1. It is a simple to use interface that covers a lot of territory 2. When I am on the road

Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes

2006-03-15 Thread Hall, Ken (GTI)
... To be replaced by a cost of $1.5 million in floor space and air conditioning costs. Of course, if they weren't running much on their mainframe anymore anyway, they've already eaten this cost in the infrastructure that replaced it. Probably grew so slowly they didn't even notice.

Migrating Off IBM Mainframes - Part 2

2006-03-15 Thread Kopischke, David G.
Greetings again, Another link on that page pointed to a company that already made this migration. This story is from March 2005. Has anybody heard how well it worked for them and how well it's working now ??? Ancor IT director Kelly Colohan had a decision to make. Informed by IBM that it

Re: map of MVS control blocks

2006-03-15 Thread Kirk Talman
The Data Areas books are excellent manuals (I almost used fine without thinking of its alias). But they are reference works. What I think petitioner wants/needs is a guide to MVS control blocks, which becomes a guide to MVS internals. He needs to know how to start with the PSA and find

Re: map of MVS control blocks

2006-03-15 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/15/2006 12:15:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The original post asked for all the relations between them. I would be amazed if even IBM has such a map. The now out-of-print logic manuals contain useful maps of certain control blocks with

Re: FW: Wishing for a JCL based PARMLIB Concatenation search

2006-03-15 Thread Tom Schmidt
Dave, I wouldn't restrict its use to just PARMLIB. I would suggest that PROCLIB might have some use, too, though maybe not as much. The bigger usage, to me at least, is with SYSLIBs in general. A single specification for a COBOL compile SYSLIB - or better yet, a series of commonly-maintained

Re: map of MVS control blocks

2006-03-15 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: map of MVS control blocks In a message dated 3/15/2006 12:15:10

SMF type(255)

2006-03-15 Thread Luis Correia
This is was in the smfprm SUBSYS(SLSP,INTERVAL(003000),TYPE(255)) SUBPARM(SLSP(SUBTYPE(1,2,3,4,5,6,8))) I've looked around and i can't find what type(255) means ? Can anyone please tell me? Thanks in advanced! -- Cumprimentos, Luís Correia

Re: SMF type(255)

2006-03-15 Thread Alan C. Field
This says for subsystem SLSP ( which I guess is the STK subsystem to run the tape SILO, we call ours SLS0) cut an SMF record every 30 minutes. In the SLSP setup ypu define what SMF record number to use (in this case the STK default if I remember right) 255. IBM reseres SMF record numbers 1

Re: FW: Wishing for a JCL based PARMLIB Concatenation search

2006-03-15 Thread Jousma, David
Tom, I agree, and even eluded to that at the end of my lengthy post. If done right, vendors should not care, as it would all be external to their application, and to them it would look like they were opening a standard DD statement. I don't see PROCLIB as necessary because that function is

Re: SMF type(255)

2006-03-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I've looked around and i can't find what type(255) means ? Can anyone please tell me? Any record type above 127 is a 'user' record. IE: from an ISV, usually. While there are conventions, there are no true controls. The trick is to find out what the sub-system SLSP is, and go look up its product

Re: SMF type(255)

2006-03-15 Thread Luis Correia
Thanks! I will look for it... On 3/15/06, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've looked around and i can't find what type(255) means ? Can anyone please tell me? Any record type above 127 is a 'user' record. IE: from an ISV, usually. While there are conventions, there are no true

Re: SMF type(255)

2006-03-15 Thread Luis Correia
Thanks! On 3/15/06, Alan C. Field [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This says for subsystem SLSP ( which I guess is the STK subsystem to run the tape SILO, we call ours SLS0) cut an SMF record every 30 minutes. In the SLSP setup ypu define what SMF record number to use (in this case the STK default

Re: map of MVS control blocks

2006-03-15 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Hope you have a very big piece of paper g. ... and an excimer laser or equivalent with which to microprint thereon. :-) -jc- --

Re: map of MVS control blocks

2006-03-15 Thread Shane
There is a massive colored diagram of DB2 control blocks and their interrelationships that is about four feet squared, but that is only DB2. Back in the mists of time, a similar beast existed for MVS. May have been an Amdahl (education) production, I don't recall. Certainly there was one

Re: Accessing The Archives

2006-03-15 Thread Knutson, Sam
You can also search them through the Google Groups Archive http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=bit.listserv.ibm-main Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

irrdbu reveals passwords ?

2006-03-15 Thread Luis Correia
last question for today... If execute the irrdbu command I will have all the content of the racf database...will this include any clear text passwords? Thanks in advanced -- Cumprimentos, Luís Correia -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: SMF data sets access

2006-03-15 Thread R.S.
Luis Correia wrote: Hi to you all! This is my fist post to this list. False. Your first post was sent 22 minutes earlier vbg Nevermind, WELCOME! I'm playing with z/OS, and I know that the smf data sets are sys1.man1. How can I see who are the users who access and their permissions to

Re: map of MVS control blocks

2006-03-15 Thread Burrell, C. Todd
I believe the Ranade series had an MVS Control Blocks book. This was an excellent resource for how the main control blocks for MVS were related. With that and the Data Areas manuals you should have a good start. Don't know where you can track down a Ranade book, but you should be able to find one

Re: New CLIST on SYSPROC - refresh

2006-03-15 Thread R.S.
Mark Zelden wrote: [...] So, the library is not in LLA, you updated from this system, and VLFNOTE also didn't work. H. I know the thread says CLIST and you added it to SYSPROC, but is this REXX or truely CLIST? Is the library PDS or PDSE? What OS level are you running? z/OS 1.4, PDS,

Re: SMF data sets access

2006-03-15 Thread Luis Correia
Thanks! On 3/15/06, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luis Correia wrote: Hi to you all! This is my fist post to this list. False. Your first post was sent 22 minutes earlier vbg Nevermind, WELCOME! I'm playing with z/OS, and I know that the smf data sets are sys1.man1 . How can I

Re: irrdbu reveals passwords ?

2006-03-15 Thread Charles Mills
I'm not a RACF expert, but the answer is almost certainly No, as RACF does not STORE the clear text passwords. How does it work then? It uses the result of an encryption process driven in part by the password. It does it once when you change a password and stores the result. It does it again when

Re: irrdbu reveals passwords ?

2006-03-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Luis Correia said: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:33:44 + If execute the irrdbu command I will have all the content of the racf database...will this include any clear text passwords? I believe that nowadays passwords are not stored in clear text, and can not be

9840 cart question

2006-03-15 Thread Karson, Lynne (SAA)
Hello listers, After years of telling us that we can only use 3480 tapes, the POTAYBES (Powers That Be - ripped off from fantasy author Anne McCaffery), are now telling us that they are dumping the 4480 drives and now we are to use 9480 drives. These drives can read/write 3490 carts, can they

Re: irrdbu reveals passwords ?

2006-03-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
will this include any clear text passwords? No. RACF encrypts passwords before storing (or checking) them. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: SMF type(255)

2006-03-15 Thread Jon Brock
Almost certainly the Storagetek tape silo control program. Jon snip The trick is to find out what the sub-system SLSP is, and go look up its product documentation. While SLSP looks familiar, I cannot recall what product it is. /snip

Re: irrdbu reveals passwords ?

2006-03-15 Thread Walt Farrell
On 3/15/2006 2:33 PM, Luis Correia wrote: last question for today... If execute the irrdbu command I will have all the content of the racf database...will this include any clear text passwords? As documented, no, IRRDBU00 does not dump the passwords. And as Charles indicated, even if it

Re: Error message DFHFC0966

2006-03-15 Thread Greg Shirey
The same message is in the CICS TS v3.1 manual - CICS does not support ESDS data sets that are defined with these extended attributes. The level of z/OS will not matter. Your solution will have to be based on what the application can tolerate, I'd guess. Convert to KSDS? DB2 table? Greg

Re: SMF type(255)

2006-03-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Almost certainly the Storagetek tape silo control program. We called our sub-system SILO. But, it's been a few years since we had one. ISTR, that 255 was the record used. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in!

Re: Error message DFHFC0966

2006-03-15 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eduardo Toledo Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Error message DFHFC0966 Hi guys, We are running CICS TS2.2, under z/OS 1.4. We also have a

SDSF DA gets some blank lines

2006-03-15 Thread Karl Tucker
On z/OS 1.6 an SDSF DA gets some blank lines (no jobno or stepname). Other lines are correct. I am trying to find a cause because I have another duplicate 1.6 system that is working correctly. I am obviously overlooking something but just can't put my finger on it. Any ideas?

Offloading Reports

2006-03-15 Thread Larry Burch
Is there a product available for offloading sysouts from JES that provides access (e.g., browser-based) to those reports *without* any further MVS involvement? -- and provides admin functions for archiving/retention, jobname+date directory stuff, who-can-see-what authorization, etc. I'm

Re: Offloading Reports

2006-03-15 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Larry Burch wrote: Is there a product available for offloading sysouts from JES that provides access (e.g., browser-based) to those reports *without* any further MVS involvement? -- and provides admin functions for archiving/retention, jobname+date directory stuff, who-can-see-what

Re: Offloading Reports

2006-03-15 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/15/2006 3:17:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any info would be appreciated, either via the List or direct to me. Vendor responses will be tolerated (direct only, please). These folks will sell you software and/or hardware to accomplish

Re: Offloading Reports

2006-03-15 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:59:01 -0600, Larry Burch wrote: Is there a product available for offloading sysouts from JES that provides access (e.g., browser-based) to those reports *without* any further MVS involvement? -- and provides admin functions for archiving/retention, jobname+date directory

Re: CF usage at DR location

2006-03-15 Thread Pat Schlehuber
I have a full test this weekend, so hopefully will have some of this ironed out. I am going with a newly formatted CFRM dataset and retaining all the other COUPLE datasets. If I use a new CFRM dataset, where is the CF policy information stored? I was thinking it was stored in the XCF COUPLE

Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes

2006-03-15 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I will be curious to see how things go in 6 to 12 months also. As I mentioned last week, our datacenter cut over ALL of our z/OS workload last Tuesday. From everything I've heard, we are doing very well. I've never heard of anyone cutting over a datacenter in 1 fell swoop, but we did it. I

Re: SMF type(255)

2006-03-15 Thread Richard Pace
On Tuesday 14 March 2006 16:00, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Almost certainly the Storagetek tape silo control program. We called our sub-system SILO. But, it's been a few years since we had one. ISTR, that 255 was the record used. teD's messages always show up in my inbox as Yesterday 16:00:00.

Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes

2006-03-15 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I read that article this morning and I gathered that before the start of the conversion, they were constantly running close to 100%. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer PH Mining Equipment 414-671-7849 Milwaukee, Wisconsin - Original Message - From: Hall, Ken (GTI) [EMAIL

Re: 9840 cart question

2006-03-15 Thread David Andrews
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 15:21 -0600, Cliff McNeill wrote: My recollection is that the STK 9840 tape drives are not in anyway compatible with 3480 tape cartridges. The 9840 uses a twin spooled cartridge and has a different form factor. Correct, but she said 9480. We have 9490 Timberlines on the

Re: 9840 cart question

2006-03-15 Thread Jack Kelly
you have two different models in your question. the stk 9840 is 3590 like and won't do anything with a 3480 media on the other hand i believe that stk 9480 will read 3480 media and it sounds like you're talking about 3490 (ish) devices and you're usually good to go (read) 3480 cart's. we have

Re: Offloading Reports

2006-03-15 Thread Larry Burch
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:48:07 -0600, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:59:01 -0600, Larry Burch wrote: Is there a product available for offloading sysouts from JES that provides access (e.g., browser-based) to those reports *without* any further MVS involvement? -- and

CA-OPS/MVS

2006-03-15 Thread Mark Steely
Is there a LISTSERV for CA products? Thank You -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: IBM List of FMID's

2006-03-15 Thread Bill Westland
When I get started in this business as a systems programmer, I soon discovered that the first record that was shipped in the INFO/MVS database (updated monthly) contained this information. I took a little more effort to find this record in the IBMLINK or SETOOLS database, but it was there

Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes

2006-03-15 Thread Doc Farmer
I've yet to see a mainframe to client-server transition that didn't end in tears, higher costs, lowered service levels, gnashing of teeth, roaming gangs of SysProgs threatening passers by in Hex, large cracks appearing in the Earth's surface and all life in the Universe coming to a crashing halt.

Re: CF usage at DR location

2006-03-15 Thread Skip Robinson
When you create/reformat the CFRM couple data set, there is no CFRM policy. It must be (re)created from a driver system before the first DR IPL. (You could kludge it with multiple IPLs of the DR system, but you really don't want to go there.) On the driver system, (re)create the CFRM policy

Re: SMF type(255)

2006-03-15 Thread Chris Mason
Richard, I use a free mailchecker utility for mail notification and spam filtering - or just offering the opportunity to delete without reading into Outlook Express. Ted's contributions nearly always show at the top of the chronological list of the latest messages in the window presented by this

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