Hi all,
If I use z109 S18 that means two books and allow 18 CPs maximum. If I select
508 and fill up the book1. Can I order another 508 to fill up the book2 so
that the maximum CPs are 16. Or, I only can select 709 model if CP no
greater than 8?
Thanks
tommy
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 07:49:56 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 09:45 -0600, Tom Grieve wrote:
snip...
31-bit being a subset of yes 64-bit, yes, I *absolutely* expect all
software to be capable of discerning the absence (or dearth) of storage
above the bar.
Where it
I would open a PMR with IBM.
Bob Richards
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These aren't the last copies if I understand
In response to strictures from Shane Ginnane [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom
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OK, that's fair enough, graceful failure with meaningful error messages
is absolutely desirable.
and I will venture the further comment that it is not just absolutely
desirable but
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In response to strictures from Shane Ginnane, Tom Grieve writes:
OK, that's fair enough, graceful failure with meaningful error
messages is absolutely desirable.
and I will venture the further
Alan Altmark wrote:
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I think you're correct; it's a matter of style. Probably the programmer
is
abiding by some sort of house rule that says if you can't rely upon the
referenced variables to provide the correct
We are running XRC+GDPS to a Remote site that is
250 miles away. Using two OC48 circuits each routed differently
at least that's what they tell me about the routing.
We are replicating 1500 3390 volumes, about half are M27
volumes. And we are using 8 SDM's, 6 active and 2 CopyOnce.
Let me know
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Best practice: MVC TARGET(6),=XL6'402021212121'
Nonsense. I agree with Steve about not
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Our shop want to find a gobal
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:48:58 +0200, Binyamin Dissen
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It would be nice if the assembler generated a warning if the literal
length is
too short for the specified data.
Might be nice if it generated a warning if target length was
*different* than the literal.
Tom Marchant
In a recent note, Alan Altmark said:
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 00:04:23 -0500
Best practice: MVC TARGET(6),=XL6'402021212121'
Note the length modifer. This surfaces both the exact length of the
source and the exact length of the move. People who omit the length
modifer are sentenced
Does SMP/E provide
any warning to the programmer who unwittingly attempts to RESTORE
a HOLDERR corrective SYSMOD while leaving the PE sysmod?
Sorry for leaving the thread hanging. Perhaps I thought you originally
answered your own question. In any case, the answer is no, SMP/E
RESTORE does
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:It would be nice if the assembler generated a warning if the literal
:length is
:too short for the specified data.
:Might be nice if it
Ed Finnell wrote:
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Might be nice if it generated a warning if target length was
*different* than the literal.
Well you don't want to get too restrictive, then the old tricks
get flagged.
MVI
Wouldn't that be:
MVS MOZ+1(L'MOZ-1),MOZ
Ah, to fan the flames of a holy war... ;-))
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snip
flagged.
MVI MOZ,C'Z'
MVC MOZ+1(255),MOZ
/snip
Should't that be:
MVI MOZ,C'Z'
MVC MOZ+1(L'MOZ-1),MOZ
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Should't that be:
MVI MOZ,C'Z'
MVC MOZ+1(L'MOZ-1),MOZ
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 08:47:19 -0600
snip
flagged.
MVI MOZ,C'Z'
MVC MOZ+1(255),MOZ
/snip
Should't that be:
MVI MOZ,C'Z'
MVC MOZ+1(L'MOZ-1),MOZ
And, by a discontinuity in assembler design, if L'MOZ=1,
this clobbers one
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Wouldn't that be:
MVS MOZ+1(L'MOZ-1),MOZ
Ah, to fan the flames of a holy war... ;-))
I've become a fan of letting the assembler do as much of the tedium as
is feasible. E.g., to
Is *discontinuity in assembler design* a nice way of saying, it's a bad
design? I would think a length of 1 and 0 are different,
and MVC should perform accordingly, e.g. if length=0, do nothing.
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Is *discontinuity in assembler design* a nice way of saying, it's a bad
design? I would think a length of 1 and 0 are different,
and MVC should perform accordingly, e.g. if length=0, do nothing.
No. The assembler
Alan Altmark wrote:
Best practice: MVC TARGET(6),=XL6'402021212121'
Note the length modifer. This surfaces both the exact length of the
source and the exact length of the move. People who omit the length
modifer are sentenced to the 9th level of hell for all eternity. Or even
longer.
In a recent note, Tom Marchant said:
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 09:31:40 -0600
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:14:38 -0500, Richard Tsujimoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is *discontinuity in assembler design* a nice way of saying, it's a bad
design? I would think a length of 1 and 0 are
Right. Given that we only have 8 bits to represent 1-256 bytes, it would
be represented as X'00'-X'FF' in the instruction. I see the discontinuity
in design. But, given the coding example where the target is 1 byte in
length, a warning by the assembler might be nice, but IMHO, the
I will agree that the GTF documentation is less than clear.
MODE=EXT is the most common way to run GTF. In this mode, GTF writes all
trace data to the output trace dataset immediately. Once you stop the
trace, you can format the trace data with IPCS. But one warning: if you
are outputting to a
Don't write as much assembler as I used to, but my personal feeling always
has been write it for the next PDS who will have to maintain it. I've
picked up too much code of various stripes where the person thought X1,
X2, etc., made good variable names.
Then there was the one who indexed
In a recent note, Edward Jaffe said:
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 07:45:41 -0800
I have written macros to implement assembler features for which I have
been asking for a long time. In this case, it's the ability to use the
implied length of the source rather than target operand. In this
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
In a recent note, Edward Jaffe said:
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 07:45:41 -0800
I have written macros to implement assembler features for which I have
been asking for a long time. In this case, it's the ability to use the
implied length of the source rather than
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/snip/
Best practice: MVC TARGET(6),=XL6'402021212121'
So why does
(I'm cross-posting this to ASSEMBLER-LIST, where it's
belonged for several plies.)
In a recent note, Edward Jaffe said:
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 07:45:41 -0800
I have written macros to implement assembler features for which I have
been asking for a long time. In this case, it's the
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In a recent note, Edward Jaffe said:
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 07:45:41 -0800
I have written macros to implement assembler features for which I
have
been asking for a long time. In this
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[ snip ]
.0006 D205 C00C C070 000C 0070 10 MVC
TARGET(L'=XL6'012345678ABC'),=XL6'012345678ABC'
Aha! I used one too many layers of parentheses!
Thanks, Ed!
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Who can tell me any book with LE control block(eg C3RUNCOM, LE INTERFACE
WORKAREA)?
Best regards,
He Ming（贺 明）
Mobile: 1392-500-5956,
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 10:52 -0500, Daniel A. McLaughlin wrote:
picked up too much code of various stripes where the person thought X1,
X2, etc., made good variable names.
Oh, don't be too hard on them. To this day I use loop counters I,
J, K... a holdover from my ForTran days, uncountable
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Who can tell me any book with LE control block(eg C3RUNCOM,
LE INTERFACE WORKAREA)?
I haven't
Edward Jaffe wrote:
Yes. Also Yes. See below:
A more complete example, including explicit register notation for the
target operand:
. LocObject Code Addr1Addr2Stmt Source Statement
. 0086 1 MVTGTCSECT ,
.R:C
With good documentation, I can agree. But when the documentation is
nonexistent, using some variable names like X1, or I, is just mean!
The X1 guy never had his feet held to the flame by his boss, and guess who
was the first to bail when word of the company sale came out? Next, guess
who the
Hi
Is there any posibility to combine all the JES output datasets for the
same output characteristics together ?
For example JESMSGLG JESSYSMSG etc . combine together.
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Is there any posibility to combine all the JES output datasets for the
same output characteristics together ?
For example JESMSGLG JESSYSMSG etc . combine together.
What are the same output characteristics you
Not from a JES perspective - it automagically allocates those 3 data sets
for every JOB/STC/TSU and in the JES data sets you will always have those 3.
However, you can copy into one - SDSF PRINT to a data set, for example. I
use the XDC line command (not to be confused with Dave Cole's excellent
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Hi,
Documenting our procedures for opening PMRs, etc., and have used IBMLink
for so long that I've forgotten IBM's Support phone number in the US.
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Could you be more specific? Are you looking to place these in a data set, or
print them as a unit? Or are you looking to change them with an OUTDEF parm
or similar function?
The JESMSGLG, JESSYSMSG, and JESJCL should all fall under the MSGCLASS parmeter.
Lizette
Hi
Is there any
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I'm curious. Does anyone know if say a 6 CP model with one book costs the
same as a 6 CP model with 2 books in the z processors? I know that if you
really plan to expand, that it is probably cheaper to start with 2 books
than one if you are going to have more than 8 CPs eventually - at least
Hi Mohamed,
Using indirect volser support is a good way to go. I would suggest one
other change. Start the Prod Lpar disks with P, and the Test Lpar ones with
T, rather than put them in the middle of the name. That way they stand out,
and all the Prod lpar disks are together in a list of
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Maybe it ought to run on Linux in a Z-box
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Maybe it is ...
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Tommy Tsui wrote:
Hi all,
If I use z109 S18 that means two books and allow 18 CPs maximum. If I
select
508 and fill up the book1. Can I order another 508 to fill up the book2
so
that the maximum CPs are 16. Or, I only can select 709 model if CP no
greater than 8?
In fact I don't understand
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Best practice: MVC TARGET(6),=XL6'402021212121'
Note the length modifer. This surfaces both the exact length of the
source and the exact length of the move. People who omit the length
modifer are sentenced to the 9th
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:58:09 -0500, Daniel A. McLaughlin
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Maybe it ought to run on Linux in a Z-box
Maybe it ought to run on MVS and be written in COBOL using DB2.
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Hey Alan, how about posting this over on the Assemblwer list. Your Best
practices flag (even if true) (which is doubtful) was bound to guarantee
this will become a never ending thread. It might as well never end on
a
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 21:31:46 -0800, Mohamed Juma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am going to migrate from Z/OS V1.4 to V1.7, we have two independent
systems TEST and PROD, each system has its own datasets and volumes, but we
keep the same VOLSER names for both right now as example we use for CAT
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Maybe it ought to run on Linux in a Z-box
Maybe it ought to run on MVS and be written in COBOL using DB2.
Long
Eric N. Bielefeld wrote:
I'm curious. Does anyone know if say a 6 CP model with one book costs
the
same as a 6 CP model with 2 books in the z processors? I know that if
you
really plan to expand, that it is probably cheaper to start with 2 books
than one if you are going to have more
Ron,
Just a point of clarification. that release of PL/I has NOT been
announced as EOS next year. What I think you may have seen were
announcements:
906-027
and
905-261
It is true that the FULL FUNCTION (including the Debugger) product for VM is
being withdrawn, but that
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Long as it runs at all. Lately it's been less reliable that our
favorite desktop OS.
Wonder if it's hardware or software? Inquiring minds seem stuck
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:30:36 -0600, Chase, John wrote:
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On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:58:09 -0500, Daniel A. McLaughlin wrote:
Maybe it ought to run on Linux in a Z-box
Maybe it ought to run on MVS and be written in COBOL using DB2.
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Hi,
snip
I have no access to edit the link JCL to specify the entry point.
Is there an alternate method to do this?
Also can you please suggest some good book to learn about COBOL
dynamically calling C routine?
Thanks in Advance.
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Long as it runs at all. Lately it's been less reliable that
our favorite desktop OS.
Wonder if it's
Bill Klein wrote:
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Hi,
snip
I have no access to edit the link JCL to specify the entry point.
Is there an alternate method to do this?
Also can you please suggest some good book to learn about COBOL
dynamically calling C routine?
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Inquiries about it are appearing on CICS-L now, as well. Apparently the
problem is not local to Chicagoland
Wonder if these blokes have any SLA's in their contracts??? Serious
productivity
Call and open a problem against IBMLINK via the phone.
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Call and open a problem against IBMLINK via the phone.
Amazing! As soon as IBM answered the phone, I got in.
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Maybe they were rehearsing for this (from IBMLink News, dated 3
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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:33:13 -0500
When a task terminates, the Task Close routine (IFGxTCx IIRC) runs the DEB
chain and tries to close corresponding DCBs and ACBs. If a DCB/ACB is
inaccessible or appears corrupted, then TC issues
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Call and open a problem against IBMLINK via the phone.
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_http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20061031.html_
Hi,
Where is this command located what release of z/OS did it become
available.
TIA
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Hi,
Where is this command
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Hey Alan, how about posting this over on the Assemblwer list. Your
Best
practices flag (even if true) (which is doubtful) was bound to
guarantee
this will become a never ending thread. It might as well never
Hi all,
I need to build a z/OS software test plan from scratch in few days. Can
anyone provide a sample?
Thanks in advance for your help,
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Transfering output via Email by a SAPI interface, it would be nice if all the
same would come together
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Mark
Languages grow in order to accommodate new requirements of people using
them. If enough people find that they prefer to disparage reliance on dead
trees in order to pass on information - or whatever other use there may be
for paper - by use of a thoroughly respectable combination of two
I'm sorry this is not properly tied to previous posts.
Lindy, Matt, Mark and Ramiro
Something that may be relevant to this topic for two reasons. It is certainly
relevant for one reason.
In looking up the manuals for another problem, I discovered that there were two
flavours of the remote
We have a z/OS 1.4 system that we are in the process of shutting down
but this will not take place for another 5 months. In the meanwhile we
are obligated to include this machine in our DR site as a guest under
z/VM. The system is running native in the production environment.
What are the
In a recent note, Gilbert Saint-Flour said:
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 12:33:13 -0500
When a task terminates, the Task Close routine (IFGxTCx IIRC) runs the DEB
chain and tries to close corresponding DCBs and ACBs. If a DCB/ACB is
inaccessible or appears corrupted, then TC issues
Hi Listers,
Due to time constraint we are planning to run CA Solve: Access V4R0
FTS V3R0, Unicenter NetMaster V7R0 under z/OS 1.7. These CA products are
running under CA common services V3R0.
Is anyone doing this?
Regards, Prabhat.
Please help me in upgarding our production JES2PLEX Checkpoint level from
OS/390 R 4 to z/OS 1.2 level. we are at z/OS 1.4 and
$HASP895 $DACTIVATE
$HASP895 JES2 CHECKPOINT LEVEL IS NOW OS/390 RELEASE 4
$HASP895 A TOTAL OF 1826 4K RECORDS ARE REQUIRED FOR $ACTIVATE.
$*HASP895 CKPT2 IS TOO
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