Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: john gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:04 PM Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) Unless you two are prepared to formulate your

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) I really wasn't paying any attention to this

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
To this point, however, what I have heard is a lot of orthogonal discussion that does nothing at all to address the specific question of processor speed. I don't think it's orthogonal. IMO, MIPS is just one component in a complex environment. If I could pull out and plug in the processor in a

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
x86 processor performance has increased at roughly twice the rate as mainframe processor performance. Yes, but. We run mainframes at 100%. We run wintels at under 20%. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Bob Shannon
why can't SERVERPACK be shipped with an initial value of NO? Stay with NO. I'll be glad to help anyone who can't figure out how to change it to YES. Bob Shannon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Doug Fuerst
I for one would be interested in just why one would buy a mainframe if not for the processing power, and scalability, not to mention IO. I am involved with a data center planning activity, and the Intel servers and RS6000's consume far more cooling and power than the little old z/BC we have.

Re: catalog problem why?

2007-07-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/16/2007 at 02:32 PM, Ron Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Has anyone used an iebgener(JCL) to transfer and convert ASCII to EBCDIC an mvs file... OPTCD=Q will do a translation, but you may or may not find the translate table to be appropriate. You'll have more

Re: BMC Control-M Question

2007-07-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/19/2007 at 02:45 PM, Gary Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Now, our problem is sometimes the call from the Roscoe RPF to the Control-M IOARKSL does not get returned. Did you take a console dump of the relevant address spaces and submit it to both vendors? If not, I

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Ken Brick
Ed Gould wrote: In COBOL? Someone else showed an example of the offsets and it wasn't simple either. I am not suggesting its impossible just a little more than simple it isn't. IIRC it was not possible in EASYTREV at least the version I had. SAS I know it can be done because that is what the

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I seem to recall that EASYTREV/PLUS come with a set of sample SMF programs at one stage. PANAUDIT -- from the same people that brought you PANVALET. The programmes seemed to disappear when CA acquired EZTREIV and PANSOFT (not exactly sure if I got the second company name correct). - Too busy

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Dean Kent wrote: I'm not sure I follow your reasoning. Part of mainframe processing power lies in its ability to do effectively use SMP (up to 54-ways now ... more later). It's part of the equation. Good benchmarks are based on computing throughput ... not individual chip speed. If you

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Gerhard Adam
Actually, I was rounding a bit. My original post on the subject indicated that the span for x86 comparisons was Nov 2000 thru June 2006 (as I was trying to use roughly the same period as in the post I was responding to at the time), and the increase was from 5.8 to 63.6, so the numbers should

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Kent Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 4:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) snip Frankly, I think it is a very commonly

Re: DFDSS versus FDR

2007-07-20 Thread Luis Monge
If you add ExHPDM (Expert High Performance Data Mover) to the mix for either FDR or DFDSS you can perform your backups and restores and experience a reduction in elapse times ranging from 50% to 75%. ExHPDM V6.2 can now be seamlessly implemented and does not require having to change your

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
A dual core CPUs actually cause themselves a bottleneck if they only have ONE bus to communicate to/with the outside world. This becomes another design issue that while producing apparent processor speed has to balance out against the ability of the bus (or buses) to handle data flow (which

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Gerhard Adam
For example, the highest performing single-core Opteron (HP Proliant System) gets a 14.0 in SPECint peak, and 12.7 base. The best single-core Xeon result (a Bull system), is 17.4 peak and 16.8 base. The best dual-core Opteron submission is 14.9 peak and 13.5 base. The best dual-core score for

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 5:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) A dual core CPUs actually cause

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Oh, and before I forget it, PR/SM was IBM's answer to MDF, not vice versa. I think IBM was actually the second paying customer for MDF. I worked at an alpha site of MDF. It was about three years before PR/SM. The problem(s) back then were simple. MDF did not talk to RMF, until RMF could handle

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 16:48 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: I still wanted to move to a default of NO quickly, as the slow progress in eliminating user key CSA convinced me that the sledgehammer approach was required. Hopefully, having to explain to security auditors why use of product X requires

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
*EXCELLENT* attitude. Should be more of it - let's hope you have more wins Jim. I agree. But, there's nothing to stop us, as customers, from changing the defaults. YES, I know we may have problems. But, we will also have opportunities. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 20, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Ken Brick wrote: I seem to recall that EASYTREV/PLUS come with a set of sample SMF programs at one stage. Ken, I had access to EASYTREV ala 1979 and yes I did a lot of reporting with SMF data. However I could not (successfully) access all the new types of

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Brian Peterson
Based upon my own experience attempting to negotiate with vendors over whether it is good or bad that they use Key 8 CSA in their code, and if it was bad, whether they would actually fix their code, this sledgehammer is ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED. Thank you, Jim. Once again, you've made another huge

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:52 PM Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) x86 processor performance has increased at roughly

Re: BMC Control-M Question

2007-07-20 Thread Gary Green
No, we didn't... The operators were asked to the time before last, but it was forgotten. However, I passed the request onto the manager of the group to make sure we get a dump the next time. We asked CA about the call not returning and they said it was not their problem since the call to an

Re: Dumb CA-1 question

2007-07-20 Thread Russell Witt
Tim, As others have stated, the easiest way to change the expiration date of an active tape is simply use the ISPF interface or the old TIQ online interface; or even the Vantage/GMI GUI interface (Graphical User Interface). Or, if you want to do it with a batch job you could use TMSUPDTE to

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
McKown, John wrote: I guess, in that case, you'd need to detect that and start reading backwards to find the first segment. Not a fun thing to consider. Or just not bother to support VBS with a message like: VBS is for SMF only. Get a life! 1) I had a life, but I squandered it working in the

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
Re: Supposed factor improvements over time in the integer performance of processors, there are some faulty numbers in this discussion, or at least misleading. It has to do with cores versus chips. Dean, with all due respect, no matter how much you try to fuzz it, they're not directly comparable.

Re: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name

2007-07-20 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: As others have told you, the relative GDG number is relative to the start of the job and all the datasets finally get cataloged (and the GDG base gets rolled) at step termination. What I would suggest is at startup do a locate on GDG(0) to find the last GDG number.

RMF Spreadsheet Reporter Overview

2007-07-20 Thread Albert Klimek
Hi List I play around with the RMF Spreadsheet Reporter. I have created a report successfully. My problem: SMF input dataset contains one day ( 07/17/2007) If I create a overview, the first interval is 07/17/2007-21.15.00 // //*

Re: Question? Difference from z9/703 to a z9/506

2007-07-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MIPs Million Instructions per Second MSU Million Service Units How ISVs (Independent Software Vendors) or NON-IBM third party Mainframe Software Vendors charge for their software. IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU@inter2 7/18/2007 2:18 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is what are the MIPs and MSUs

Re: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS

2007-07-20 Thread Field, Alan C.
Crispin, I found all I needed and more at: http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/nfs/pubs.html We're just setting it up here to. Alan Subject: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS I have been asked to set up z/OS NFS client to access Linux files on Redhat. I have searched the archives

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Itschak Mugzach
SMF is the proper place to look. SDSF keeps only jobs that haven't purged yet. In case you insist on SDSF, look at the SDSF manuals for SDSF batch mode and write a small rexx to extract our data from the screenshots. Itschak -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS

2007-07-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:24:43 +0100, Crispin Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been asked to set up z/OS NFS client to access Linux files on Redhat. I have searched the archives and found little information. Documentation on z/OS client is very sparse. Any pointers/problems/gotchas etc I

Re: Question? Difference from z9/703 to a z9/506

2007-07-20 Thread Gates, Guy
Check this link out, I think it has what you are looking for. Both the 703 and 506 are shown. http://www.tech-news.com/publib/pl2094.html Thanks...Guy M. Gates Jr. TTI Z/OS Systems Programmer II -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Jack . Hamilton
If you run Linux for your OS and Apache for your web server and PostgreSQL for your database, you won't have licensing costs. You won't get paid support, of course, but that's a compromise that many sites seem willing to make. -- Jack Hamilton Management Information Analysis - Analytic

Re: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS

2007-07-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS I have been asked to set up z/OS NFS client to access Linux files

Re: How can I give the volume unit address and return the volume name from REXX

2007-07-20 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Kenneth, Yes, I will advise what changes I make to correct the exec I published. Secondly, although the CONSOLE command works for queries to both device address and volume serial, it does require the user to have security access to that interface. The exec requires no security

Re: No Response From Xephon

2007-07-20 Thread Trevor Eddolls
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Re: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name

2007-07-20 Thread John Ticic
-- snip -- I have a task that allocates a few GDG files during its running instance. I allocated one instance of a GDG and got the G0207V00 extension. 4 seconds later, I allocated another instance (different DDNAME) and got the very same G0207V00. It would appear that the first 207 instance was

Re: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name

2007-07-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:54:16 -0500 Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :I have a task that allocates a few GDG files during its running instance. :I allocated one instance of a GDG and got the G0207V00 extension. :4 seconds later, I allocated another instance (different DDNAME) and got :the very

Re: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS

2007-07-20 Thread Chris Mason
Crispin About 15 years ago I used to teach TCP/IP for MVS (now the z/OS Communications Server IP component) - but I've forgotten a lot. One topic I hadn't realised I'd forgotten was NFS so, when I saw your post, I thought I'll see my presentation notes about this and I'll be able to provide

No Response From Xephon

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Philbrook
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Re: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS

2007-07-20 Thread Crispin Hugo
Thank so much John for the information. Its just what I needed. Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:21 AM Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) Yep And each one of those servers requires

Re: IPCS REXX TCB tree display anyone

2007-07-20 Thread Tony Harminc
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:45:11 -0400, John Hamlet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a simple IPCS TCB tree display (with indentation) REXX exec that I might be able to obtain and enhance to display USS signal precedence information? Does anyone know where one is? I have some REXX stuff

Re: width of postings

2007-07-20 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:44:57 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:45:21 -0500, Dave Kopischke wrote: I follow the list through the web browser. Occasionally, I notice the last word of a line is duplicated on the next line. At first I thought it was just people with similar typing

Re: How can I give the volume unit address and return the volume name from REXX

2007-07-20 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 09:54:54 -0400, George Bly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, update, the exec does work at z/OS 1.6 on our systems. Just tried on z/OS 1.7 and getting an error. I will debug and get back to you all with changes if required. Thanks Bruce Hewson And if no changes are

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Dean Kent wrote: I am comparing the pace of improvement in x86 with the mainframe. The IT Jungle article says that installed mainframe MIPS has increased 4 fold over 7 years. I showed that in the same time period, x86 performance has increased over 8 fold. We still aren't getting an apples

Re: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS

2007-07-20 Thread Crispin Hugo
Crispin Hugo Systems Programmer, Macro 4 http://www.macro4.com/ John, Just to let you know that with your examples you posted I was able to get z/VM and z/OS NFS clients to work. Once again, many thanks Crispin Hugo

Re: IPCS Question(s)

2007-07-20 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Thanks for the info Bob. Unfortunately, this is a report currently being produced via code from a CLIST. I'm not sure I want to add much code to it, however, as the CLISTs are in the process of being converted to REX EXECs. In any case, your info seems to be something that would be available to a

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: Scott Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) Well of course, Dean, Timothy makes perfect sense.

Re: RMF Spreadsheet Reporter Overview

2007-07-20 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe
Statistician's First Commandment: Know your data and know it well Have you empirically and independently proven beyond any doubt that the range of timestamps in the input dataset meets or exceeds all of the desired reporting interval? Does the date range in the data make more sense if you

Re: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name

2007-07-20 Thread Andy Wood
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:58:43 +0300, Binyamin Dissen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . . . My understanding of GDG is that all relative numbers are consistent within a job, i.e., all references to +1 in a job will be to the same dsname - no matter how many times it is allocated. What if S99GDGNT is

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:19:08 -0500, Kenneth E Tomiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An alternative was mentioned, SYSLOG. Your shop ought to have control over this as well. Some kind of archiving or collection process. It becomes simpler to read these text lines of data if your needs are solely start

Re: web IBMLINK STILL down - fix time now supposed to be 1:30 pm

2007-07-20 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 22:50 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: Write the president of IBM and let him know. If the letter makes it to him (doubtful) he might make a difference. We wrote such a letter to John Akers 20 years ago, and it resulted in *immediate* action. (Of course that was in a different

Re: web IBMLINK STILL down - fix time now supposed to be 1:30 pm

2007-07-20 Thread Robert Justice
Write the president of IBM and let him know. If the letter makes it to him (doubtful) he might make a difference. Complaining on here will get you nowhere. You should also complain to major media and embarrass IBM into doing something. Bring it up at SHARE thats another way of embarrassing

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 20:34 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: We had a excellent COBOL programmer look at the layout [SMF rty 30] and after a few questions he said he didn't even want to try it. He wasn't even sure it could be done. Sure it can! You need to define the record headers and the associated

Re: HSM BCDS filling weekly

2007-07-20 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Len, A few questions if I may, 1. Any changes to your SMS or HSM environments? such as changes to Mgmt classes or HSM parameters? Cols 20 and 21 on the ISMF Management class list will give you last modified date/time. Did you stop running Expirebv? Any change to the BCDS VSAM

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
This is a little ahead of time, but what about the SDSF/REXX interface that is suppose to be available around z/OS V1.9? Would that start to allow us to do these kinds of requests without alot of headaches? I am not sure what fields will be available for this interface but perhaps things like

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:08:50 -0500, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As others have said type 5 is semi OK Type 35 records are OK but are somewhat complex. They have offsets that are almost impossible to use, probably only SAS and assembler (maybe PL1). But if you only need start stop date and

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:04:50 -0500, Brian Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it will help us all significantly when IBM makes ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) the default, if only to encourage our vendors to redouble their efforts to fix this bad bad programming practice. I sure hope this default

Re: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name

2007-07-20 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name I have a task that allocates a few GDG files during its running

Re: web IBMLINK STILL down - fix time now supposed to be 1:30 pm

2007-07-20 Thread Rugen, Len
What is the host port for the 3270 interface? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: web IBMLINK STILL down - fix time now supposed to be 1:30 pm

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 20, 2007, at 8:11 AM, David Andrews wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 22:50 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: Write the president of IBM and let him know. If the letter makes it to him (doubtful) he might make a difference. We wrote such a letter to John Akers 20 years ago, and it resulted in

Antwort: Re: RMF Spreadsheet Reporter Overview

2007-07-20 Thread Albert Klimek
RMF is not my main topic. Therefore I use the RMF Spreadsheet Reporter to investigate our LPAR performance. But a sorted SMF dataset is mandatory for reports and overviews. I assumed the Spreadsheet Reporter handles this automatically. Albert VERLAGSGRUPPE WELTBILD GMBH Sitz der Gesellschaft:

Re: IPCS Question(s)

2007-07-20 Thread Robert Wright
Charles Hardee wrote on 2007-07-20 08:22:06: Thanks for the info Bob. Unfortunately, this is a report currently being produced via code from a CLIST. I'm not sure I want to add much code to it, however, as the CLISTs are in the process of being converted to REX EXECs. In any case, your info

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Ray Mullins
Excellent example, David. I would make one change: You need some pointers to address those records and sections. (There are some hokey redefines so that you can do pointer arithmetic.) 01 SMF30-ID-ADDRVALCOMP-5 PIC S9(8). ***===--- 01 SMF30-ID-ADDRPTR

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/20/2007 8:03:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that puts them there, SYSLOG won't cut it. Even if he does it's not a good method .. for a lot of reasons. Yeah, MXG/SAS on healthy PC keep you well tuned and make pretty reports the PHB's can

Re: width of postings

2007-07-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:20:10 -0500, Bill Godfrey wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:44:57 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:45:21 -0500, Dave Kopischke wrote: I follow the list through the web browser. Occasionally, I notice the last word of a line is duplicated on the next line.

Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's a thread active in TSO-REXX in which the OP wished to extract the last record from a data set. Of course, this spawns a school of increasingly byzantine suggestions: Read into a stem and use the STEM.0th element Edit Macro Sort into reverse order and take the first.

Re: IPCS Question(s)

2007-07-20 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Hi Bob, What about simply another internal variable, similar to say, TITLE. One could then code For Page: EVAL PAGENUM CLIST|REXX(STO(variable_name)) For Line: EVAL LINENUM CLIST|REXX(STO(variable_name)) I mean, if one could dream and hope, I would think this might be the easiest

Re: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS

2007-07-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 5:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS Thank so much John for the information. Its just what I needed.

Re: more ibmlink downtime-will be fixed by quitting time

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/20/2007 9:08:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: update is that it will be fixed by 4:30 p.m. eastern time. If you need to exorcise sadomasochistic tendencies, the Open is being broadcast on TNT. ** Get a

Re: REXX concatenation of strings

2007-07-20 Thread Arthur T.
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:54:46 -0400, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) pdc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just a quick question. (double posted to TSOREXX) Is there a difference, performance or otherwise, between the following two commands? On the more general REXX

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 20, 2007, at 8:21 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:08:50 -0500, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for as being impossible to use, it's a SMOP and there are plenty of examples on the CBT (including DAF). In COBOL? Someone else showed an example of the offsets and it

Re: web IBMLINK STILL down - fix time now supposed to be 1:30 pm

2007-07-20 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 08:37 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: Then I would suggest that at the annual stock holders meeting create a vote and put it before the board. Hee! There was a time when I was almost that desperate to get a JES2 APAR accepted. After I unsuccessfully lobbied level-2 for a fix, I

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread John Kington
Ed, In COBOL? Someone else showed an example of the offsets and it wasn't simple either. I am not suggesting its impossible just a little more than simple it isn't. IIRC it was not possible in EASYTREV at least the version I had. SAS I know it can be done It is dirt simple in Easytriev

Re: IPCS Question(s)

2007-07-20 Thread Robert Wright
Charles Hardee wrote on 2007-07-20 10:16:57: What about simply another internal variable, similar to say, TITLE. One could then code For Page: EVAL PAGENUM CLIST|REXX(STO(variable_name)) For Line: EVAL LINENUM CLIST|REXX(STO(variable_name)) I mean, if one could dream and hope, I would

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Frank Yaeger
Paul Gilmartin wrote on 07/20/2007 07:13:38 AM: There's a thread active in TSO-REXX in which the OP wished to extract the last record from a data set. Of course, this spawns a school of increasingly byzantine suggestions: Read into a stem and use the STEM.0th element Edit Macro

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 06:31 -0700, Ray Mullins wrote: In something as compute-intensive as SMF triplets, every little bit helps. The nasty part is testing bit fields in COBOL. The LE bit test routines are expensive to run. (I haven't looked recently at COBOL to see if there are native ways to

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 9:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Last Record There's a thread active in TSO-REXX in which the OP wished to extract the

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Reda, John
Gil, You can do this in many different ways with the sort. Assuming an 80-byte record the following control cards is one way you can accomplish this: INREC FIELDS=(1,80,SEQNUM,4,BI) SORT FIELDS=(81,4,BI,D) . OUTFIL OUTREC=(1,80),ENDREC=1 John Reda Syncsort, Inc.

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Anton Britz
Hi, Just to prove that we do not all think a like : The orginal question was asked by somebody working for a consultance. A consultance that charges customers exorbantly high fees and then they give the work to H1B holders that earn $10 per hour. So maybe we should ask more questions ex. a.

Re: PR: IBM Announces Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for CICS Transaction Gateway

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 18, 2007, at 8:21 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: --SNIP- If you do see an IBM software product that isn't yet available on the mainframe -- one of the shrinking number -- and you'd strongly consider buying it for the mainframe, go ahead and ask your IBM

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:27:32 -0500, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have little doubt you can do it in rexx but how many people would be able to debug it (if need be). At least as many as could for any program written in any other language considering rexx syntax is fairly simple (one

Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Sridhar K Veena
G'day, Please let me know if there is a way to extract all the jobs (with start and end times) from spool. The requirement is to provide a daily report on jobs that ran, with their start time, end time and return code. Is there a way I can use SDSF pgm to extract contents of all the jobs (or

DFDSS versus FDR

2007-07-20 Thread Jim McAlpine
Many moons ago I had access to the FDR products for backup and recovery but now I only have DFDSS. As I remember, one of the big differentiators at the time was that with FDR you could do a dataset restore (including VSAM datasets) from a full volume physical dump but that wasn't possible with

Re: DFDSS versus FDR

2007-07-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 10:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DFDSS versus FDR Many moons ago I had access to the FDR products for backup and recovery but now

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:48:03 -0700, Frank Yaeger wrote: Of course, if you already happen to have the same value in all of the records, this can be simplified even more. For example, if every record had a blank in position 5, you could use this DFSORT/ICETOOL job: //S2 EXEC PGM=ICETOOL //TOOLMSG

Re: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name

2007-07-20 Thread GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS
The other person was quite accurate in that the (+1) level of a GDG applies to the entire job, not to a particular step. So if you need to allocate multiples, use (+1), then (+2), etc. . . If the task is a single program that's trying to produce two of the same GDG's where second is optional(not

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/20/2007 12:04:50 AM: I think it will help us all significantly when IBM makes ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) the default, if only to encourage our vendors to redouble their efforts to fix this bad bad programming practice. I sure hope

Education Announcement: z/VM V5.3 Performance Update - Live Virtual Class

2007-07-20 Thread Pamela Christina ((607)429-3447 T620)
Cross posted to IBMVM, IBMMAIN, and LINUX listservs. I apologize for the late notice. Don't kill the messenger. Abstract: The newest release of z/VM was generally available on June 29, 2007 and has significant improvements to performace and capacity. This Live Virtual Class (LVC) session will

How to get the LPAR NODE name ?

2007-07-20 Thread Anton Britz
Hi, Can anybody just help Dieter , at the LA times quickly ? Note: There must be module some where but I do not have time to get tu it this morning. Thanks. Anton Storr, Dieter wrote: Hi Anton (not SAG-L), Do you know how to get info from the CVT? or examples on the Web? The

Re: How to get the LPAR NODE name ?

2007-07-20 Thread Rob Scott
The LPAR name, HW Name and other goodies can be found in the ECVT (point to by CVTECVT , mapping macro in IHAECVT in MODGEN). The HW model can be found in node descriptor pointed to by CVTHID. CVTL1 is some sort of bi-lingual label - not for use in ASM. CVTRELNO can be used if you establish

Re: No Response From Xephon - Resolved

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Philbrook
Good News: Xephon is alive and well and my subscription problems have been resolved. EdP -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Education Announcement: z/VM V5.3 Performance Update - Live Virtual Class

2007-07-20 Thread Pamela Christina ((607)429-3447 T620)
Cross posted to IBMVM, IBMMAIN, and LINUX listservs. I apologize for the late notice. Don't kill the messenger. | and I apologize for the duplicate - fixed the date Abstract: The newest release of z/VM was generally available on June 29, 2007 and has significant improvements to performace and

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Frank Yaeger
Paul Gilmartin wrote on 07/20/2007 08:39:33 AM: SELECT FROM(IN) TO(OUT) ON(5,1,CH) LAST USING(CTL1) /* I'm guessing that the ON clause tells it to look in position 5, but what tells it that a blank is what it's supposed to look for? DFSORT isn't looking for a blank - it's just looking for the

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
---snip--- The nasty part is testing bit fields in COBOL. The LE bit test routines are expensive to run. (I haven't looked recently at COBOL to see if there are native ways to do this that don't involve standing on one's head.) CALL 'CEESITST'

JAVA SAX XML parser - GOTCHA!

2007-07-20 Thread McKown, John
This may well be documented somewhere, but I haven't has yet seen it. I just downloaded JBOSS 4.2.1 and am looking at it. Well, it's cheaper than WAS! It keeps its configuration files in XML format. Now, usually XML is plain text as opposed to binary. So when I created the z/OS JBOSS, I translated

Re: a

2007-07-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/20/2007 9:25:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jack Kelly wrote: a b I'm not totally sure about this, but I think that Ed's reply of b may be off topic. :-) I also suspect this is a good thread for Friday grins and not much else. Bill

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