Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-21 Thread Gibney, Dave
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern Paul Gilmartin wrote: Since the initiator doesn't know

ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Umamaheshwar Iyer
Hi dinosaurs I have written a REXX program with a panel. This panel has been decorated with fields HH:MM:SS among many others. I want the seconds field to display the current 'Seconds'. It does this, but I have to keep pressing the 'Enter' key. This field should be increased

Re: START command when the member is a JOB

2009-08-21 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
Two thoughts: - Have you tried to move the job to the library allocated under //IEFJOBS in the master JCL? - You might try MGCRE. -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Ted Kotlowski is out of the office.

2009-08-21 Thread Ted Kotlowski
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Re: SMTP delivery delay

2009-08-21 Thread Vikesh Bhoola
Thanks to all that responded, the information supplied is very helpful in understanding the process. We've been hanging in there and it appears this single-task process solution is not working very well for us. Been contemplating alternatives and have noticed that once there are not any files to

Re: SHARE in Denver

2009-08-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Chris, So YOU'RE THE ONE that snubbed Ed Gould in the past? And I thought all along that it was someone elseand you know who you are. Stop! Too many volunteers to be that someone! (Just kidding Ed) I will say this: IMNSHO, Washington, DC 2003 was the greatest conference for snubbing. And

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Dave Salt
ISPF panels display a static image as of the moment in time they were captured. Nothing on the panel is 'refreshed' until the next time you press an interrupt key (such as ENTER). This means if you display the time you will see the HH:MM:SS at the moment the image was captured. If the panel is

DAF Updates - Last Call For Requirements

2009-08-21 Thread Michael Cleary
Greetings, I am working to finalize an update to DAF. Here is what I have so far: Add Customization Variable GLIMITMSG Add SMF RT 42 ST 24 Support Add SMF RT 42 ST 25 Support Add SMF RT 82 ST 24 Support Add SMF

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Dave, Correct me if I am wrong, but ISPF is considered a 3270 screen session and not a GUI like you would find in WEB type applications. Being that it is 3270 it is more static display (you have to hit enter to get a refresh) than a GUI. Lizette ISPF panels display a static image as of the

AUTO: Jo Van Hoey is out of the office (returning 03-09-2009)

2009-08-21 Thread Jo Van Hoey
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Re: How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread e'Silva, Joaquim J
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AW: How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread Keller Walter
George You could for example query the MOD entry for ARCCTL in your z/OS CSI. Regards, Walter __ Walter Keller z/OS System Engineer Helsana Versicherungen AG Postfach, 8081 Zuerich Mail: Postfach, CH-8081 Zuerich, Switzerland Phone: +41 43 340 51 67,

Re: How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread Staller, Allan
snip Can someone tell me how I can go into SMP/E and locate the DFSMShsm FMID? /snip In batch: SET BDY(targetzone). LIST MOD(ARCCTL). Online from the SMP dialog: Select option 3.2 (Cross zone query). MOD, ARCCTL The FMID for DFHSM will be the same as for DFSMS. HTH,

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Dave Salt
Lizette, We are both saying more-or-less the same thing, so I'm not sure why you asked me to correct you if you're wrong? The only thing I can think of is that I told the OP he has to press an interrupt key to refresh the screen, while you just said the enter key has to be pressed. Is that

Re: How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
For z/OS 1.10, it is HDZ1A10 (same as DFSMS' FMID). For any others, go into SMP/E Option 6 Migration Assistant, or if you still have your ServerPac dialogs handy, go into your order and list Order Details. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-21 Thread Staller, Allan
snip Does IDCAMS likewise bypass RECALL of migrated data sets?) -- gil /snip YUP! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread George Rodriguez
Hi Listeners, Can someone tell me how I can go into SMP/E and locate the DFSMShsm FMID? TIA. . . George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd.

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:56:07 -0400, Dave Salt wrote: The only way you could get the time to keep refreshing is if you keep pressing an interrupt key to manually keep refreshing the panel, or display the panel in LOCK mode (so it automatically keeps refreshing itself). But if the panel is

Re: How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread George Rodriguez
Thanks for all the responses...I've got what I need, but I do have a couple of questions, how does one know to check ARCCTL and are there MODs that I need to know from each product, to get the FMID? Thanks, George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer Network Technical Services (561) 357-7652

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread R.S.
Paul, It's time for your pills. It's mainframe - it is very secure, reliable, available, BUT it cannot be CONVENIENT. Mainframe has to be complex, unfriendly, expensive. Oh, it's time for my pills too. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Don Leahy
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Paul Gilmartinpaulgboul...@aim.com wrote: That's *so* twentieth century! Since the advocates often argue that mainframes are more economical than small systems, why is this feature readily available on desktops, but not on mainframes where it should be

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread esst...@juno.com
this request is alot easier to accomplish with CICS, which I have done similiar type of processing. Haveing said that; In a Rexx Exec You may want to try this: You can issue an ATTACH for a subtask which wakes up every 1 second (probably via a STIMER/STIMERM). The sole purpose of the Subtask is

Article on ACP - One of the Oldest Open Source Applications

2009-08-21 Thread McKown, John
Not too much to it, but nice somebody remembers and would reminisce about it. http://www.itworld.com/print/75218 John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell

Re: Can CICS region share more than one processor

2009-08-21 Thread Mohammad Khan
Hi Don Thanks for the reference from the manual. BTW this confirms rather than contradict my understanding that DB2 work never ran on main (QR) TCB. Before OTE exploitation DB2 work used to run on subtask thread TCBs, now it runs on L8 TCBs. There was always this much concurrency for

Re: How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread Staller, Allan
snip ... but I do have a couple of questions, how does one know to check ARCCTL and are there MODs that I need to know from each product, to get the FMID? /snip ARCCTL is the main program in DFHSM. (look at your startup procedure). In SMP terms ARCCTL is a LMOD which is made up of (one or more)

ACP, One of the Oldest Open Source Apps

2009-08-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. ACP, One of the Oldest Open Source Apps http://slashdot.org/story/09/08/21/1121202/ACP-One-of-the-Oldest-Open-Source-Apps from above: The Airline Control Program

Re: START command when the member is a JOB

2009-08-21 Thread Richard Pace
On Thursday 20 August 2009, David Andrews wrote: A member in SYS1.PROCLIB is started via operator command. When I insert a JOB statement as the first record, the system executes the member as a job (which allows me to use instream data, for example). This works well for plain old console

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:52:23 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: Since the initiator doesn't know whether any program will OPEN a data set or not, this can be made to work only if all RECALLs are deferred until OPEN. This then means that RECALLs will proceed consecutively rather than

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 7:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ISPF Counter On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:56:07 -0400, Dave Salt wrote: The only way you could get the

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:54:17 GMT, esst...@juno.com esst...@juno.com wrote: this request is alot easier to accomplish with CICS, which I have done similiar type of processing. Haveing said that; In a Rexx Exec You may want to try this: You can issue an ATTACH for a subtask which wakes up every 1

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:36:42 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 06:56:07 -0400, Dave Salt wrote: The only way you could get the time to keep refreshing is if you keep pressing an interrupt key to manually keep refreshing the panel, or display the panel in LOCK

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:21:46 -0400, Thompson, Steve wrote: Why is the sky blue? Why is water wet? Why do the birds go on singing Apparently, according to your metaphor, IBM's design decisions, good or bad, modern or obsolete, are tantamount to laws of nature. But in some places we've done

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ISPF Counter On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:21:46 -0400, Thompson, Steve wrote: Why is the sky blue? Why is

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-21 Thread John Eells
Matthew Stitt wrote: snip I actually like Lizette's solution far better than development. Her solution is more functional and less specific. I know of many that use the allocation routines for dataset work without using IEFBR14 (I for one). All you need is to code JCL for a file that is not

SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER REPORT ERRSYSMODS for HIPERs

2009-08-21 Thread Andrew Metcalfe
I am trying to improve our HIPER reporting to remove a complex (written in SAS) and unwieldy procedure. We currently receive maintenance nightly via SMP/E using: RECEIVE DELETEPKG ORDER(ORDERSERVER(ORDSRVR) CLIENT(ORDCLIEN) CONTENT(ALL)). This gives us any pre-req PTFs

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread McKown, John
What __might__ be nice. And __would__ prove TSO is not moribund. Would be to have a TSO capability via native TCP/IP. Unfortunately, it appears that the 3270 terminal architecture is so imbedded into TSO that such would be very difficult. Which translates to expensive and time consuming. Better

Re: How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
Is this so you can put PTFs or RSU levels? If so, you can run an SMP/E batch job to go to the IBM website to download your corrective fixes without needing to know all of your FMIDs. If you did a Serverpac then in the ISPF application for it, there is a function that lists all the FMIDs

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
joa...@swbell.net (John McKown) writes: I think this is an artifact that the 3270 data stream is really designed to be half duplex, like the old walkie-talkies. Each side tells the other that it has control of the transmission. This is especially true in TSO. Now, I do remember z/VM's or maybe

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-21 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
I would rather see a new disp parameter (DELONLY) that says I am not going to open this data set, I just want it deleted. Dennis Roach GHG Corporation Lockheed Martin Mission Services Facilities Design and Operations Contract NASA/JSC Address: 2100 Space Park Drive LM-15-4BH Houston,

Initiator HSM HRECALL/HDELETE

2009-08-21 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
The fact that the MVS Initiator and HSM don't collaborate much is an old story which dates back to the early 1980s IIRC. Members RECALL and CLEANUP in FILE183 on the CBT tape (available here: http://gsf-soft.com/Freeware/ ) were developed 20 years ago to avoid HSM to perform useless RESTORE

Re: How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread George Rodriguez
No, it's to apply a USERMOD for TLMS to DFSMShsm. Besides, I always wanted to know how to get FMIDs for any IBM products installed on the system. As I understand it, the key is finding a module and using the 3.2 option of SMP/E. Thanks for all the responses... George Rodriguez Specialist,

Re: How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread Faber, Hermann
You can run SMP/E LIST FUNCTIONS against your target zone. It shows all fmids with a description (and a lot more of informations). Output can contain thousands of lines, in our case 35.000. Hermann how does one know to check ARCCTL and are there MODs that I need to know from each product, to

Library Server and extended shelf support

2009-08-21 Thread M Hunter
We've been using Library Server with the traditional BookServer interface happily for years, but I recently decided to enable extended shelf support, primarily due to the fact that CICS and DB2 books are no longer being delivered in BookManager format (PDF only). Our existing setup only

Re: How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I would humbly disagree. As a minimum, do what I suggested with the Order Details from the ServerPac. Then make the list is available to anyone who wants the information. No need to determine a mod to query. Just browse the dataset containing the info. Save the query mod solution for new

SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER REPORT ERRSYSMODS for HIPERs

2009-08-21 Thread Andrew Metcalfe
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Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: What __might__ be nice. And __would__ prove TSO is not moribund. Would be to have a TSO capability via native TCP/IP. Unfortunately, it appears that the 3270 terminal architecture is so imbedded into TSO that such would be very difficult. Which translates to expensive and

SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER REPORT ERRSYSMODS for HIPERs

2009-08-21 Thread Andrew Metcalfe
Can't see my post so trying again! I am trying to improve our HIPER reporting to remove a complex (written in SAS) and unwieldy procedure. We currently receive maintenance nightly via SMP/E using: RECEIVE DELETEPKG ORDER(ORDERSERVER(ORDSRVR) CLIENT(ORDCLIEN)

Re: How to Find FMIDs

2009-08-21 Thread George Rodriguez
Okay...Now that I have the LIST FUNCTIONS that I can run in SMP/E, this gives me all the information that I would ever need. I'm going to take the information from the list function run and create a FMID / Description table that I'll add to QuickRef. Once again thanks for all the responses...

Re: Initiator HSM HRECALL/HDELETE

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:04:46 +0200, Gilbert Saint-Flour wrote: I hope the recently-updated Initiator knows that IEFBR14 is the 4-byte IBM version, not a special utility program written locally and also called IEFBR14, something I saw at-least once before. Discussed here several weeks ago, when

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/21/2009 7:49:52 A.M. Central Daylight Time, don.le...@leacom.ca writes: Huh? Except for SDSF, FIND doesn't pause after a fixed number of lines; it keeps going until a hit or until EOF. Isn't this on the ingenuity of the application? SDSF has had ==refresh nn for

BCDS Summary Report?

2009-08-21 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
I've been asked to provide the total amount of data stored by HSM on tape? ML2 was no problem as the following worked perfectly: LIST DSN MCDS SELECT(ML2) SUMMARY Unfortunately I cannot find a similar function for the BCDS. We also have FDR report available if that is of any help. Any

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ISPF Counter snip Hey, John, here's an opportunity for you: write your own - ISPF in a

Re: It's Official: z/OS Now 110% Modern

2009-08-21 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
John, I'm with you on this one. I would prefer to have to make a minor PARM change to implement the change than to have it default to a different behavior. That way I can control when the behavior will change, and it gives me the opportunity to make the change on a test system to verify that

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Steve Comstock
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ISPF Counter snip Hey, John, here's an opportunity for you: write your

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Scott Ford
Thats why I work for a small development company, Hey Steve and John, Thats why I work for a small development company, ppl r great. I can write just about anything I like and we sell usefull products... You got to love American free exnterprise...I did corp american for 20+ yrs, enough is

Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Stocker, Herman
G'day, I have data given to me in an excel spreadsheet. Is there any way that I can move this data from my PC and MS excel to a sequential file that I can edit with ISPF editor? I've tried a saving as a text file (everything is jammed together on a line). Same thing with a CSV file. I've tried

Re: BCDS Summary Report?

2009-08-21 Thread John Kelly
snip I've been asked to provide the total amount of data stored by HSM on tape? unsnip Hey Dave, Have you thought about using DCOLLECT's UBUSESP? You could confirm how close by comparing what you have to DCDUSESP. It's close with the used DASD space, of course tape compression will make that

Re: SHARE in Denver

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:42:52 -0400, Scott Rowe wrote: So, Denver is going to be my first real SHARE trip since 2000, who else is going to be there? My department has a couple passes we'll be sharing. Will there be an IBM-MAIN booth/table/BOF? -- gil

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Steve Comstock
Stocker, Herman wrote: G'day, I have data given to me in an excel spreadsheet. Is there any way that I can move this data from my PC and MS excel to a sequential file that I can edit with ISPF editor? I've tried a saving as a text file (everything is jammed together on a line). Same thing

Re: START command when the member is a JOB

2009-08-21 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:13 -0400, Richard Pace wrote: I tried what I think you describe on z/OS 1.9. Seems to work. Hrm, maybe it's a 1.8 - 1.9 thing. I'll have V1.10 in a sandbox in a couple of weeks, and I can try it there. In the meantime: Tell me what's different from your test and

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:16:02 -0400, Stocker, Herman wrote: I have data given to me in an excel spreadsheet. Is there any way that I can move this data from my PC and MS excel to a sequential file that I can edit with ISPF editor? In order to process some Excel data with a script, I opened it

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Or a year or two away from bankruptcy! Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com All true. So start your own company, become a Partnerworld member, set up on Dallas like we have, and

Re: BCDS Summary Report?

2009-08-21 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Hi Jack, No, Dcollect slipped my mind entirely. I'll look into it. We also have FDR here and I'm talking to Innovation now. Their reporting capability is usually very good. Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: START command when the member is a JOB

2009-08-21 Thread Matthew Stitt
Have you set up the IEFJOBS file name in the MSTRJCLxx member? This allows you to have job cards, etc for STCs. On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:30:28 -0400, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:13 -0400, Richard Pace wrote: I tried what I think you describe on z/OS 1.9.

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Stocker, Herman
Thank you Steve. Regards, Herman Stocker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion Stocker, Herman wrote:

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Scott Ford
___ Absolutely   Scott J Ford   From: Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:57:23 AM Subject: Re: ISPF Counter Or a year or two away from bankruptcy! Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
The way I do this is to take excel and put it into a table in WORD. Then convert the word doc to a format I want on the MF and then save as a TXT file. Then up load to the minframe. If you have NSF/DSF in place or can use the ISPF WS Client, then you could edit the txt file on your PC using

Re: spool offload

2009-08-21 Thread Ron Wells
well---did some testing... after offloading I tersed output... was able to ftp to pc/as400/linix and back.. untersed and able to bring back data.. maybe this all my fault---dah---should have zipped or tersed file before I ftp any where.. but was going to a as400 and thought nothing would

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com (Anne Lynn Wheeler) writes: disk controllers. Moving the 3270 controllers directly off the mainframe channels ... replacing them with HYPERChannel boxes ... which were much faster and had much lower channel busy for identical 3270 channel operations ... resulted in increase in

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 Aug 2009 08:39:00 -0700, paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) wrote: I have data given to me in an excel spreadsheet. Is there any way that I can move this data from my PC and MS excel to a sequential file that I can edit with ISPF editor? In order to process some Excel data with a

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:42:51 -0600, howard.bra...@cusys.edu wrote: I have been using delimited files, read in and parsed by programs. But then I discovered that I can save an Excel document as a .PRN document. This is probably what you want to do. Oh, one trouble with this method is that the

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread John McKown
Parsing a CSV file in REXX should be very simple. Something along the lines of: /* REXX */ DO FOREVER EXECIO 1 DISKR INPUT IF RC 0 THEN LEAVE PARSE PULL RECORD I=0 DO WHILE RECORD PARSE VAR RECORD VALUE ',' RECORD I=I+1 DATA.I=VALUE

Re: SHARE in Denver

2009-08-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Paul Gilmartin wrote: Will there be an IBM-MAIN booth/table/BOF? I don't think so. Who would run it? IBM-MAIN is not an official SHARE project. In fact, it's not connected with SHARE in any way. (Not that anyone would complain if someone did set up an IBM-MAIN table Sunday or Thursday

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Scott Ford
I agree with John this have done with SAS csv files ..with no problem at all in Rexx ( the wonder horse ), pretty easy .   Scott J Ford   From: John McKown joa...@swbell.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 1:06:48 PM Subject: Re: Excel

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Lizette Koehler
So what happens if your data in a cell contains a comma? Do you have to account for that possibility in REXX? Lizette Parsing a CSV file in REXX should be very simple. Something along the lines of: /* REXX */ DO FOREVER EXECIO 1 DISKR INPUT IF RC 0 THEN LEAVE PARSE PULL

Re: how-to Sysplex? - The DAE part (and some OMVS too)

2009-08-21 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:35:55 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: Good thing we never defined the OMVS CDS! Got that right. Until we fully deploy 1.10, planned D/R is a pain (NEWROOT will alleviate the need for sysplex-wide IPLs). Until 1.11 is available (or we try to press for an

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:18:15 -0700, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: I agree with John this have done with SAS csv files ..with no problem at all in Rexx ( the wonder horse ), pretty easy .   Scott J Ford Silly me. I forgot to say it is also simple in awk and Perl as well. Perl while()

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion So what happens if your data in a cell contains a comma? Do

Re: START command when the member is a JOB

2009-08-21 Thread Richard Pace
On Friday 21 August 2009, David Andrews wrote: On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 09:13 -0400, Richard Pace wrote: I tried what I think you describe on z/OS 1.9. Seems to work. Hrm, maybe it's a 1.8 - 1.9 thing. I'll have V1.10 in a sandbox in a couple of weeks, and I can try it there. In the

Hourglass usermod question

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Peplinski
We have Hourglass (now an IBM product) that zaps DB2's DSNXGRDS and L/E's CEEPLPKA. The zaps for DB2 modify some - but not all - CSECTs in DSNXGRDS. I know less about the L/E module but I suspect it is the same. Does anyone have a sample that works for something like this? It seems every PTF I put

Annoying FIND Behaviors (Was: ISPF Counter)

2009-08-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Don Leahy wrote: On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Paul Gilmartinpaulgboul...@aim.com wrote: Why does Find in a large file pause each time after a fixed number of lines and prompt for continuing rather than displaying a progress counter and letting the user interrupt? Huh? Except for

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Stocker, Herman
Thank you Lizette. I never though of a word table. Regards, Herman Stocker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Excel to DSORG=PS

Re: Hourglass usermod question

2009-08-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:47:00 -0500, Paul Peplinski paul.peplin...@wpsic.com wrote: We have Hourglass (now an IBM product) that zaps DB2's DSNXGRDS and L/E's CEEPLPKA. The zaps for DB2 modify some - but not all - CSECTs in DSNXGRDS. I know less about the L/E module but I suspect it is the same.

Re: SHARE in Denver

2009-08-21 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 8/21/2009 12:17:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com writes: it's not connected with SHARE in any way. (Not that anyone would complain if someone did set up an IBM-MAIN table Sunday or Thursday night. I certainly wouldn't.) I guess SHARE took

Re: how-to Sysplex? - the LOGR and exploiters part

2009-08-21 Thread Arthur Gutowski
Barbara, we don't data share with DB2, so we don't see the problems with RRS offloads. Does the introduction of the data sharing in a subplex force you to share structures for the logstreams, even though they are sub-plexed? As for Operlog, we have the same exposure with EJES (we have a lot of

Re: Excel to DSORG=PS conversion

2009-08-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:06:48 -0500, John McKown wrote: Parsing a CSV file in REXX should be very simple. Something along the lines of: /* REXX */ DO FOREVER EXECIO 1 DISKR INPUT IF RC 0 THEN LEAVE PARSE PULL RECORD I=0 DO WHILE RECORD PARSE VAR RECORD VALUE

Re: START command when the member is a JOB

2009-08-21 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2009-08-21 at 13:44 -0400, Richard Pace wrote: Must be some difference...This works for me on 1.8, 1.9, 1.10, 1.11. The 1.8 system I have at hand is a bit backlevel. I can try this on my more up-to-date sandbox, but based on your experience I don't expect any change. So... 'tis a

Re: how-to Sysplex? - the LOGR and exploiters part

2009-08-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:11:53 -0500, Arthur Gutowski aguto...@ford.com wrote: Barbara, we don't data share with DB2, so we don't see the problems with RRS offloads. Does the introduction of the data sharing in a subplex force you to share structures for the logstreams, even though they are

Re: how-to Sysplex?

2009-08-21 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:13:28 -0400, Joel Wolpert j...@perfconsultant.com wrote: Sorry for the ignorance. What is an ELA (enterprise licensing agreement?)? Yes, that's it. Why would this cause you to dismantle your sysplex? Not me, personally, but as a technician, sometimes I'm just a tourist.

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Steve Comstock
Scott Ford wrote: ___ Absolutely Scott J Ford From: Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 11:57:23 AM Subject: Re: ISPF Counter Or a year or two away from bankruptcy! Eric Bielefeld

Re: how-to Sysplex? - the LOGR and exploiters part

2009-08-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Barbara Nitz wrote: We *thought* we were safe on this front. Until we found out that the operlog logstream gets corrupted on a regular basis because it gets offloaded on the wrong subsysplex where the offload datasets cannot be found from the 'other side'. One would have thought (and it came

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Martin Kline
What __might__ be nice. And __would__ prove TSO is not moribund. Would be to have a TSO capability via native TCP/IP. Unfortunately, it appears that the 3270 terminal architecture is so imbedded into TSO that such would be very difficult. Which translates to expensive and time consuming. Better

Re: how-to Sysplex? - the LOGR and exploiters part

2009-08-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:02:49 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: FWIW, I submitted a SHARE requirement years ago to allow multiple OPERLOG log streams in a sysplex. The intent was that each system could substitute its XCF group name into the log stream name. Then you could

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 07:36:42 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... Why is horizontal scrolling so much more difficult than vertical scrolling in ISPF? ... Well, for one thing, it's harder to know what the user (or developer) wants.If it's a table display doing vertical

Binder API...broke or working as designed

2009-08-21 Thread Dave Day
I'm using the Binder API to read ESD records for a Program Object. The sequence of the records returned are not in the order the csects are in, in the object. What I'm seeing is this: Class Offset for csect AA 1CCA4A Element Offset 52 Class Offset for csect BB 1CF6BC Element Offset 2CC4

Re: ISPF Counter

2009-08-21 Thread John McKown
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:24:00 -0500, Martin Kline martin.kl...@yrcw.com wrote: Native TCP/IP may be at the wrong level. TN3270 runs over Native TCP/IP and provides the protocol for positioning output data, identifying input data, standardizing screen sizes in terms of character and line counts,

Re: how-to Sysplex? - the LOGR and exploiters part

2009-08-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:45:34 -0500, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: All you have to do is define the volumes / pools (storage group) in the different SMSplexes that you want to share and then have consistent ACS routines. It's that simple. To clarify that statement, I meant

Re: how-to Sysplex? - the LOGR and exploiters part

2009-08-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 12:02:49 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: FWIW, I submitted a SHARE requirement years ago to allow multiple OPERLOG log streams in a sysplex. The intent was that each system could substitute its XCF group name into the log stream

Re: how-to Sysplex? - the LOGR and exploiters part

2009-08-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:10:45 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: ... (E)JES implements a feature called Syslog auto cmd routing. With this enabled, commands not explicitly routed are automatically routed to the system whose SYSLOG you are browsing. Wow. Cool feature! -- Tom Marchant

Re: how-to Sysplex? - the LOGR and exploiters part

2009-08-21 Thread Edward Jaffe
Tom Marchant wrote: On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:10:45 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: ... (E)JES implements a feature called Syslog auto cmd routing. With this enabled, commands not explicitly routed are automatically routed to the system whose SYSLOG you are browsing. Wow. Cool feature!

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