Thanks! I can logon to the SE. But currently, I can't see the
John,
Thanks! I can logon to the SE. But currently, I can't see the SE
directly because the server is at nother city. I need to let people to check it
and restart the SE... (Unfortunately, the guy is on vacation now).
By the way,
Hi
Where can I find a complete description of the IFCEREP1 ?
I had some old jobs with wrong parameters, to list , in details, all
the software error records .
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John,
It probably does not help because it uses SMF80 not 30 and it is Assembler so
you get to maintain it, but Cartwright's RACF Analysis Program (CRAP) in
CBT172 issues FB records reformatted from SMF. You can change the format
and content as you wish, or then again you can start from
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:24:16 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
Where can I find a complete description of the IFCEREP1 ?
I had some old jobs with wrong parameters, to list , in details, all
the software error records .
Thank you
I try to generate a detailed sofwtare error report from the LOGSTREAM
If yo have a working sample for this. ..
I got always :
FC103I SERLOG DD STATEMENT MISSING OR INCORRECTLY CODED
Norbert Friemel wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:24:16 +0100, Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
Where can
If you have SAS installed on your mainframe and you are comfortable
using it... BASE SAS has many data management functions that can be used
on PDS and PDSE datasets. Including member update, loading, unloading,
etc.
These are documented in the SAS Companion manual for Z/os for the
level of SAS
U got to love greed or is it capitialism
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:08:11
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:07:37 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
I would like to process the SMF data off of the z/OS system. Most
likely on a Linux system. And most likely in JAVA
We no longer have SAS on the mainframe, but we do have it
on a Windows box that I am supposed to have access to. I'll
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snip
Scott:
The point of the above I
Another option is the Tectia SSH server for z/OS (www.ssh.com)
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I believe that if the dataset is larger than the DASD volume then the migrate
will fail.
Thanks,
Ray Baraniecki
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I received the following error message when I attempted to archive a dsn
at the ML1 level:
ARC1001I PRODD.AUDIT.D071104W.ZW090.SYSRES3 MIGRATE FAILED, RC=0037,
REAS=
ARC1237I NO SPACE FOR MIGRATION COPY
In the past I executed SECONDARY SPACE management to fix the problem.
Is there
Good Day All Readers,
I received the following error message when I attempted to archive a dsn at the
ML1 level:
ARC1001I PRODD.AUDIT.D071104W.ZW090.SYSRES3 MIGRATE FAILED, RC=0037, REAS=
ARC1237I NO SPACE FOR MIGRATION COPY
In the past I executed SECONDARY SPACE management to fix the
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 07:25:19 -0600, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
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From this, what IBM wants is for the z to be administered like an i. There
really aren't any sysprogs on an i. There is very little to configure. No exits
in
system code. The OS
I'm curious as to why the OP thinks the ML1 volume to be added needs a Smallds
dataset?
How large is the failing dataset? What is the largest single amount of free
space available on ML1?
Is ML1 badly fragmented? Would a defrag of the ML1 with the most available free
space provide enough space
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:56:13 -0600, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
True. But some of our vendors still change us at the 66 MSU level because
they change according to the maximum possible MSU for the box.
Then the issue would not be of you wasting CPU, more of they don't
Darth,
Thanks for the advice. I have the list (it is quite big). To save time I
would like to migrate the ML1 dsns to ML2. Here is the command I would like to
use. Is this okay?
HSEND FREEVOL MVOL(HSM501) AGE(0) TARGETLEVEL(Ml2)
Thanks.
--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Darth Keller
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:56:13 -0600, McKown, John
David,
The packs show that there is ample space - as much as 3,143 cylinders available.
As you suggested the DEFRAG or the FREEVOL I would like to use the FREEVOL
because to DEFRAG the volume I will need to get the client's authorization plus
pass through more red tape. As in my response to
Thanks for the advice. I have the list (it is quite big). To save time
I would like to migrate the ML1 dsns to ML2. Here is the command I would
like to use. Is this okay?
HSEND FREEVOL MVOL(HSM501) AGE(0) TARGETLEVEL(Ml2)
The command looks to be technically correct, but I'm wondering if
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:10:58 -0600, McKown, John
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:29:08 -0600, Russell Witt res09...@verizon.net wrote:
Seriously, if some of these companies saw the incident reports opened by
these Systems Programmers that are running their systems they would (should)
be very scared.
Or see some of the posts on IBM-MAIN and other
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SNIPPAGE
From this, what IBM wants is for
Martin,
I really would prefer to continue using Bookmaster for producing this
document, and printing it, but with IBM dropping support for it, I would like
to
continue printing this using a supported method.
Yes, I am aware of B2H, and do utilize it, but that doesn't allow for
printing
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:30:49 -0600, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
Correct. Most of the time, we only hit 48 during month end processing (or
when something goes wrong and some program loops grin). But we need 48
at month end to meet our SLAs.
Then just set your conversion
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:10:58 -0600, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
No. When I waste CPU, that increases our sub-capacity bill, which is the
majority of our software. And so it is anathema. There are only a few vendors
who change at the 66 MSU level, regardless of actual
That should work, according to the doc. I'm currently using the same command
without the Age parameter but according to the doc Age(0) is the default.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: willie bunter [williebun...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday,
snip
HSEND FREEVOL MVOL(HSM501) AGE(0) TARGETLEVEL(Ml2)
/snip
This is ok to reorg the ML1 volumes.
Re: the original dataset
HSEND MIGRATE dsname ML2
And you probably won't have to reorg ML1
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I'm been asked for a sample IEFU29L exit (SMF switch for SMF Logger) and I
don't have
one. Although IBM distributes IEFU29 in SYS1.SAMPLIB, they don't distribute
IEFU29L. Is
anyone willing to share theirs? I could simply pass it along or post it on my
website in the
Free Tools section (if
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On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:30:49 -0600, McKown, John
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:
Ron: I guess I agree to a point but not with the last sentence.. Mackinney is
both good and bad. The good is they are cheap *BUT* at what cost?
Maybe it depends on the product. We use Mackinney's SimpList and the
support has
An XML engine was added to SAS in version 8.2 and has been improved
since then. You should be able to write a SAS program, or have someone
write it, that will pull the data you want from the MXG database and
output it in XML format.
Tom Kelman
Enterprise Capacity Planner
Commerce Bank of Kansas
John P Kalinich wrote:
PDSLOAD from the CBT (file 093) can handle LRECL =256.
Regards,
John K
John,
ITYM PDSLOAD can handle any LRECL allowed for unspanned
fixed-length and variable-length records, although the sequential
input file must have a minimum LRECL of 80 whether F(B) or V(B).
A few things to check:
How big is the data set that received the ARC1237I message? If this is a
really big data set, and rarely used, then it should be migrated straight to
ML2 tape using your Management Class definitions. Maybe it should have been
written to tape to begin with. That is a
Don Leahy wrote:
Maybe it depends on the product. We use Mackinney's SimpList and the
support has been excellent. Turnaround time is usually less than 24
hrs.
Simplist is supported by Dave Salt. He doesn't work for MacKinney.
Rather, they are an exclusive reseller of his product.
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John,
In my shop I'm responsible for making sure that the SCRT reports are
sent to IBM every month and analyzing/verifying the sub-capacity
invoices each month. I can verify that the invoice is based on the MSU
highest 4 hour rolling average (highest 4HRA) for the month. For the
purposes of
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John,
In my shop I'm responsible for making sure
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snip
Thank you very much for that information. I wonder why
snip
HSEND FREEVOL MVOL(HSM501) AGE(0) TARGETLEVEL(Ml2)
/snip
If you don't use AGE(0) with SMS DSN, then the management class for each
SMS data set is used to determine whether the migration copy is moved to
another volume.
Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:41:59 -0600, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
Tom,
Thank you very much for that information. I wonder why management around
here has always been pushing the don't use the mainframe unless you
absolutely must button. I.e. do more desk checking rather
Miklos,
I've had success with this jcl. Also check
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2A671/27.14.3?SHELF=IEA2BK81DT=20080117104757
//EREPRPTS EXEC PGM=IFCEREP1,
// REGION=6M,
//
In a message dated 11/13/2009 6:58:46 A.M. Central Standard Time,
vze2q...@verizon.net writes:
U got to love greed or is it capitialism
Seems to me a serious lack of education. One of our systems folks went to
work for IBM Services a few years back. First job was to a large Midwestern
AMEN, brotha!
Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com 11/13/2009 9:32 AM
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:29:08 -0600, Russell Witt res09...@verizon.net wrote:
Seriously, if some of these companies saw the incident reports opened by
these Systems Programmers that are running their systems they would
IBM, as a profit-making corporation owned by stockholders and presumably
incorporated somewhere within the USA, has a legally required fiduciary duty to
its stockholders to maximize the value of their stock. There is no such
required fiduciary duty to sysprogs, the homeless, downtrodden,
In a message dated 11/13/2009 10:25:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,
scott.r...@joann.com writes:
AMEN, brotha!
Yeah, runs a lot slower when you take off TYPERUN=SCAN...and yes
we replace mug holders on PC's. Yep we'll run your jobs ASAP, as soon as
we get 'lectricity from the power
My first reaction to Bill's note was to cough bullsh1t but then I
stopped and really read it. I have to agree although I don't want to.
My husband has worked for IBM for 30.5 years now and we wonder every day
if he will have a job next month or next year. I worked for IBM for
10.5 years but got
Bill Fairchild wrote:
No one needs a telephone operator any more to make a local phone call. Even a
chimpanzee can do it. And now anyone can afford to own his own phone.
True. And, if you can't afford a mobile phone in the U.S., a government
supported program will give you both phone
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:08:11 -0800, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com wrote:
I agree with you and other posters but I think I have some evidence that
indicates IBM is essentially attempting to get rid of a lot of sysprogs.
Ed, while I see your point in your post I guess I have to ask, why are there 2
It's really expensive. I like that company and their software. The Co:Z
SFTP package is rolling out support for RACF SSL/TLS certificates, which is
outstanding. If SSH doesn't do this, that alone would be a deal breaker for
me.
Scott
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 5:33 AM, Peter Vander Woude
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Lafever-Brown, Joni
My first reaction to Bill's note was to cough bullsh1t but then I
stopped and really read it. I have to agree although I don't want to.
My husband has worked for IBM for 30.5 years now and we
You do realize that any DR site you go to is probably going to give you
a portion of a z9 or z10 equivalent to your needs and those boxes will
not have an OS/2 HMC? Sounds like you are planning for something that is
not available now, except at your site.
Thanks, Bobby Herring
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I'm not disagreeing about the cut-throat business practices, notably here in
the US, nor the fiduciary duties of companies to their shareholders. I
mostly agree with your assessment, but it's worth pointing out that the
fiduciary duties are not the zealous commitment that everyone says.
Besides
The dsn is 1 cylinder. As suggested by others using AGE(0) would result in the
migration all of the dsns from that volume (correct me if I am wrong). If I
use the DAYS(X) parm instead of the AGE(0) would that be okay?
HSEND FREEVOL MVOL(HSM501) DAYS(3) TARGETLEVEL(Ml2)
--- On Fri,
Thanks David for clearing this up.
--- On Fri, 11/13/09, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov
wrote:
From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - ARC1237I
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Friday, November 13, 2009, 6:18 AM
That
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.computers.folklore as well.
jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) writes:
It's not (only) IBM pushing down the pay scales.
Like it or not, we live in a global economy, and our segment of that
The dsn is 1 cylinder. As suggested by others using AGE(0) would result
in the migration all of the dsns from that volume (correct me if I am
wrong). If I use the DAYS(X) parm instead of the AGE(0) would that be
okay?
HSEND FREEVOL MVOL(HSM501) DAYS(3) TARGETLEVEL(Ml2)
I'm looking at my
In a message dated 11/13/2009 11:29:38 A.M. Central Standard Time,
bherr...@txfb-ins.com writes:
not have an OS/2 HMC? Sounds like you are planning for something that is
not available now, except at your site.
They provide what you contract for! May be roll your own backup site.
Anyway,
Hello Bobby !
Yes. I recognize I will not have OS/2 at the DR site. My entire focus
is to get PCOMM running for upload to the DR site, whatever the
underlying system on the HMC might be. Our local system has OS/2 Warp
and I'm trying to educate myself on PCOMM. We had PCOMM at our DR site
For the purposes of sub-capacity pricing the month starts on midnight on the
first and runs to midnight on the first of the next month.
So for November's usage the invoice will be base on the highest 4HRA occuring
between November 1, 2009 at 2400 hours and December 1, 2009 at 2400 hours.
Willie and others
I have never used the SDSP feature of DFHSM so I can't talk to that
specifically. My response back to the list is to clarify the issue to the
others on the list who missed this along with me. I - as well as others - was
wondering why you specified that one solution to the
I would just keep using it. Unsupported just means you won't be able to
open a new APAR or PMR for a problem. BookMaster is well documented
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/EDF01A02
and has been thoroughly used within IBM and many other large customers for
years.
It's
I wonder when the SDSPs at Willie's shop were last re-org'd? It should be a
weekly or monthly maintenance job.
The one cyl dsn in question will migrated the next time the volume it is on is
eligible for Interval or Primary space mgt. If no room is available in any SDSP
then it will migrate to
The answer is no.
Re-emphasized in the latest mail announcing the availability of SCRT V18.1
Reporting period for October:
2 Oct, 2009 - 1 Nov, 2009
Birger Heede
IBM DK
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
For the purposes of sub-capacity pricing the month starts on midnight on the
first and runs to midnight
This being sent again because I received notification of non-delivery.
Hello Bobby !
Yes. I recognize I will not have OS/2 at the DR site. My entire focus
is to get PCOMM running for upload to the DR site, whatever the
underlying system on the HMC might be. Our local system has OS/2 Warp
and
This pay rate was for the high school boy working at McDonald in my province
(Alberta, Canada) past couple of years.
Although Economic down-turn they still get a reasonable pay rate. Is this
position available in Zimbabwe? Otherwise no way to be Ri…di..cu.l.u.s….
In a message dated 11/13/2009 1:34:49 P.M. Central Standard Time,
dudl...@queensu.ca writes:
This being sent again because I received notification of non-delivery.
Somebody's mailer is yucked up. Bouncing posts to sender but they're
making it to the list as far as I can tell.
No, I meant from November 1, 2009 at 2400 hours (That's the same as Nov
2 at hours) to December 1, 2009 at 2400 hours (That's the same as
Dec 2 at hours). The period for IBM's sub-capacity pricing month
runs from the first of the month at midnight (the second at hours)
through the
Birger, thank you for the confirmation. That is also what is printed in
the SCRT report I sent into IBM for October's usage.
Reporting Period, 2 Oct, 2009 - 1 Nov, 2009 inclusive (31 days)
Tom Kelman
Enterprise Capacity Planner
Commerce Bank of Kansas City
(816) 760-7632
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:08:11
It is a strange arrangement where you must get client approval to defrag the
pack (which is essentially invisible to the client) but need no approval to
migrate to ML2 which will cause restores to take considerably longer (which
should inconvenience the client significantly more).
Mainframers are not a dying breed. In fact, we are proud of our heritage,
and like to share our experiences with others. If you have stories to
share,
problems to solve, answers to offer, or just need a place to hang with other
folks with similar history; join us at www.t-rexxers.com. You can
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 13:58:37 -0600, McKown, John
john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
But how many of them are as relatively knowledgable in their platform as we
older sysprogs on ours? Believe it or not, I once had an AIX admin (sysprog)
ask me how to do some things in BASH scripting! He
but was blank on doing things which were not pre-packaged
Welcome to the future of systems programming :-(
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
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but was blank on doing things
:(
I'm surrounded by people who's skillsets would be on-par with the guys who
empty my trash can, if it weren't for CLISTs. And they have jobs because I
wrote all kinds of automation to catch their mistakes.
Most people in sysadmin roles are thoroughly incompetent. Which is good,
because
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:(
I'm surrounded by people who's
I think the answer to this (below) is that what we are looking at is not the
beginning of the end for z/Systems Programmers but the end of the beginning.
Ten releases from now (z/OS 20.x) and chimps will be able to do out jobs
because IBM will have altered things to the point where highly
Yep! And don't forget about the contract agencies. Companies seem to just
pay a set $$ amount for any given position. So, the agencies goal is to
find the least qualified Hireable so they can negotiate the person down as
hard and insultingly as possible, thereby nabbing 50-60% of the pay rate.
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 14:15:57 -0800, Howard Rifkind wrote:
In fact I believe there really is a very good chance to see the need for
sysprogs disappear completely. Log into an IBM web site and download all the
updates, fixes, new operating systems etc.
And, taking an unbiased view, this would
Well, without us Sysprogs, to whom would everyone pass the buck?
Dave Booher
*My opinions strictly my own
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Gilmartin [paulgboul...@aim.com]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 4:51
Actually, (0), (+0), and, (-0), all work the same.
When I've code JCL and used a relative GDG like (-1), when changing it to use
the current gdg, it's easier to change it to (-0). Perhaps it's a similar
leftover.
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Actually I submitted a question (ASK) and not an ETR. I ask lots of
questions, even when I think I know the answers, esp. answers I don't think
I'm going to like. Then I may convert those questions into suggestions
(i.e., DCRs or MRs).
Since I'm a sysprog, and not management; our IBM salesperson
Are you saying that *every* 4HRA is 48 MSUs? If not, run when not. It's
free. You're wasting CPU if it *isn't* used.
You always have the option of seeking competitive bids if you have 66 MSUs
(hardware) billed at 48 by one/some vendor(s), and 66 billed as 66 by
one/some vendor(s). Go to the
At 17:59 -0600 on 11/13/2009, Wilkins, Mike wrote about Re:
SIGNIFICANCE OF (+0),DISP=OLD:
Actually, (0), (+0), and, (-0), all work the same.
When I've code JCL and used a relative GDG like (-1), when changing
it to use the current gdg, it's easier to change it to (-0).
Perhaps it's a
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