BMC PDX member

2011-07-20 Thread Veena, Sridhar
Hi, For one of our IMS HIDAM databases, during load step of reorg, the load parms are being picked from a member of PDX dataset. Following is the display from job... IMS ID USED. IMSX GLOBAL PARAMETER BLOCK USED. (LDP DEFAULTS) PDX DSNAME...

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote: > On 7/20/2011 7:46 AM, Jim Thomas wrote: >> >> Forgive me for asking, but is there a real reason that >> people want IBM to do their dump analysis for them ??. > > We send dumps to IBM so they can resolve bugs in their software that > negative

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Jim Thomas
Thank You Kind Sir, I do not know about anybody else but, aside from my passion, you've also depicted my interests and foray. I will withhold my remarks and experiences with both, IBM Lv1 and Lv2 for the moment. :-) Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014

Re: Old MVS Logic Manuals (and or fiche)

2011-07-20 Thread William Donzelli
> http://www.bitsavers.org/ could be the best place to find them.  And > if you have any, they would like to receive lossless scans 400 DPI or > higher of manuals that they do not have.  There are volunteers who > would receive and scan manuals for bitsavers. Yes, I am one of those volunteers that

Re: Old MVS Logic Manuals (and or fiche)

2011-07-20 Thread Jim Thomas
Thank you kind Sir. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Jim Thomas
LMAO !! ... please forgive me Ma'am, ... I do like you and yes, agree with you wholeheartedly !!. I had a former post, to JC I believe, and this is what I'd meant, To me, it's so gratifying to call IBM and say .. nope .. don't need your help ... but you need mind ... here is where the problem is

Re: Old MVS Logic Manuals (and or fiche)

2011-07-20 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.bitsavers.org/ could be the best place to find them. And if you have any, they would like to receive lossless scans 400 DPI or higher of manuals that they do not have. There are volunteers who would receive and scan manuals for bitsavers. On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Jim Thomas

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Shane
> The skills now > are in collecting appropriate doc, getting it to IBM quickly, and > supplying other relevant information to Level 2 clearly and > factually. Not just anyone can do that. Hmmm - IBM seem to be trying to convince the world that "just anyone" with z/OSMF will be able to do that, a

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Barbara Nitz
>Now we have no source, but we have a >powerful support mechanism in place, and the situation has (at least >somewhat) reversed. The skills now are in collecting appropriate doc, >getting it to IBM quickly, and supplying other relevant information to >Level 2 clearly and factually. Not just anyone

Re: SDB (optimal?) BLKSIZE on tape device

2011-07-20 Thread Mike Schwab
Tapes are pretty linear. The larger the blocksize, the fewer the blocks to write. And each block has a bit of overhead to it. 2011/7/20 R.S. : > (SDB - System Determined Blocksize) > > I just coded LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0,BLKSZLIM=2G on MDL tape device in 3590 mode. > I noticed something strange for

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Skip Robinson
This is actually a crucial and timely topic. To paraphrase Bob Rogers, How do you do what you do when you're a sysprog? Back in the day when we had access to IBM source code, when there was not much of a Support Center in place, on-site dump shooting was a valuable skill. If sysprogs couldn't do

Re: DFSMSdss mistery - DELETE PURGE

2011-07-20 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Hi Alan, I tried with the same file deleted and allocated and fails again, the second test that I do with one more qualifier is with a new file allocated in the same catalog, I don't try to unlock it but it would cause another problems, in other hand, there were any RACF message. I don't understa

Re: DFSMSdss mistery - DELETE PURGE

2011-07-20 Thread Starr, Alan
Alvaro, The first thing that occurs to me is that MV6X.QTTOOL.BAT1WORK.BACKUP.UNLOAD was in use (i.e. ENQueued) at the time that DF/dss tried to delete it. To confirm, retry the failing job and immediately afterwards try renaming it from ISPF DSLIST (option 3.4) by typing the "R" line command t

Trainers Friend - was: RE: CA-1 TMS QUESTION - IEFTMS9 TMC BACKUP REQUIRED

2011-07-20 Thread Lester, Bob
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CA-1 TMS QUESTION - IEFTMS9 TMC BACKUP REQUIRED Frank, Good info, thanks. One of the issues with the gra

Fwd: DFSMSdss mistery - DELETE PURGE

2011-07-20 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Hi listers, This morning I encountered with a DFSMSdss mistery, and is next: I delete files in a batch process through ADDRSU utility, the syntax follows: //CLEANUP0 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //OUTDDDD DUMMY //SYSINDD * DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(HLQ.Q1.Q2.Q3.**)) - CAN

Re: APF and the initiator (IEFIIC)

2011-07-20 Thread Starr, Alan
After dis-assembling IEFIIC, analyzing several dumps and doing quite a bit of reading, I was able to piece together a scenario that I believe to be reasonable. Among other things, I was able to confirm that the admonition to refrain from resetting JSCBAUTH after turning it off has no exception;

Re: CA-1 TMS QUESTION - IEFTMS9 TMC BACKUP REQUIRED

2011-07-20 Thread Ed Gould
Frank, Good info, thanks. One of the issues with the graying of the MF workforce is that this type of information is lost. I would suggest that it would be either trainers friend or CA give training class say once a year in TMS "internals". Steve are you listening? Ed Sent from my iPad On J

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, True, but is not so much fun to call IBM and say .. Heyy .. here's your problem .. now fix it .. :-) Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussio

Re: APF and the initiator (IEFIIC)

2011-07-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
- Please forgive me ... but I simply could not resist. Do porcupines do 'it' ?? ... really ??. YES With great care!! :-) Rick

REENTRANT vs THREADSAFE

2011-07-20 Thread john gilmore
Worth noting explicitly is that the CICS alternatives are o THREADSAFE and o QUASIRENT. Long before IBM COBOL compilers could generate reentrant code COBOL was made usable for CICS APs by trickery. The pointer to working storage--There was as yet no stack-based local storage, and COBOL pro

Re: ESTAE testing question

2011-07-20 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 07/20/2011 10:18:06 AM: > The manual 'z/OS V1R12.0 MVS Assembler Services Guide' has this > statement: "The case where an SDWA is not provided > is rare." > > Is there a way to force this kind of condition in order to actually > test an ESTAE that is tri

Re: Check out June 2011 | TOP500 Supercomputing Sites

2011-07-20 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 7/20/2011 10:17 AM, Bill Fairchild wrote: I checked it out. Japan is way out in front of the rest of the pack with an 8.0 petaflop system. The only way the USA is tops is in the total number of different systems, which is 5. This is an interesting journalistic device. If you look hard enou

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-20 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 7/20/2011 9:34 AM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:50:21 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: Well... I don't know, but I speculate that the failure to load most REFR modules into store-protected storage in the early days was an attempt to avoid providing an easy to use mechanism for unauth

Re: Explanation of EUT/FRR

2011-07-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:37:40 -0400 Peter Relson wrote: :>>My understanding was that the EUT bit in PSA was added because the FRR :>stack :>>was not saved. Perhaps it was not saved in EUT mode and the bit caused :>even :>>EUT's to have their FRR stack saved? :>You had mentioned in an earlier ap

Re: APF and the initiator (IEFIIC)

2011-07-20 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:59:07 -0700 "Starr, Alan" wrote: :>The subject of an APF-authorized program invoking a program that runs non-APF-authorized has been discussed many times here. The admonishment not to turn JSCBAUTH on, after having turned it off, has been repeated many times. :>I wonder

Re: CA-1 TMS QUESTION - IEFTMS9 TMC BACKUP REQUIRED

2011-07-20 Thread Bonaduce, Frank
As the issue has been pretty much addressed, I just wanted to add that in addition to TMSCOPY to backup the TMC/AUDIT files, there should be at least a daily execution of maintenance utilities like TMSCTLG, TMSEXPDT, TMSCYCLE and TMSCLEAN. This will ensure that volumes which should be expiring a

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas > > Sir, > > Forgive me for asking, but is there a real reason that > people want IBM to do their dump analysis for them ??. Sure... We pay IBM for software defect support, and IBM no longer furnishes sou

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, Forgive me, my previous post was (in all honesty) directed at people (and companies) that do not know how to read a dump and or will not let their employees learn. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Jim Thomas
Okay ... explanation accepted ... Thank you. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt Sent

Re: Don't like.

2011-07-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:24:35 -0500, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: >The new listserv. Fonts, layout, etc. Yuk. :( > Does Reply "To the Poster" work? I get no confirmation when I click "send". I'm trying to reply to one of my own messages as a test. -- gil --

Re: Old MVS Logic Manuals (and or fiche)

2011-07-20 Thread Jim Thomas
Folks, Does anybody have or know where I can get our old MVS (and JES) logic manuals ??. If somebody has them and wants to sell it, I'd gladly pay for it, else, if somebody has them and just wants to send me copies, I'll pay for that too... if you have them on fiche .. that is fine too. I would

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Hal Merritt
You are already paying for this support, and it is usually much less expensive than trying to do it yourself even if you had the resources (training, code listings, doc, etc). More, diagnosis is usually much faster if the person is very familiar with the code. So, why not? -Original M

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 7/20/2011 7:46 AM, Jim Thomas wrote: Forgive me for asking, but is there a real reason that people want IBM to do their dump analysis for them ??. We send dumps to IBM so they can resolve bugs in their software that negatively impact our operations. Personally, I would help analyze their bu

Re: ESTAE testing question

2011-07-20 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, I agree that in 'some' cases the SDWA address is not provided but I don't think (or didn't know) that it was rare. IMHO, the only times I have not had an SDWA is when my storage has been chewed down ... IOW, I don't have enough storage. Given that scenario, I'd highly recommend against try

Re: ESTAE testing question

2011-07-20 Thread Tom Harper
I use a different approach. In the interest of First Failure Data Capture, I obtain four storage cushions, above and below the line, and in high and low private, and release them on entry to ESTAE. This allows for all normal LOGREC recording, taking an SDUMP, etc., even if there was a storage co

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Jim Thomas
Sir, Forgive me for asking, but is there a real reason that people want IBM to do their dump analysis for them ??. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Dis

Re: ESTAE testing question

2011-07-20 Thread Bill Fairchild
Or you could force a normal ABEND of some kind and address stop with a tracing/debugging system, such as XDC, on the first instruction in your ESTAE routine. Then alter the contents of R0 so that your test for no SDWA will be successful and see if your code to handle that condition (immediately

Re: ESTAE testing question

2011-07-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 7/20/2011 7:18 AM, Paul Schuster wrote: The manual 'z/OS V1R12.0 MVS Assembler Services Guide' has this statement: "The case where an SDWA is not provided is rare." Is there a way to force this kind of condition in order to actually test an ESTAE that is tripped with this condition? Our r

Re: After z/OS 1.12 RSU1106 IGGCSI00 returns entry error indicator for first time

2011-07-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:30:01 +0200, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) wrote: >After activting z/OS V1.12 RSU1106, an STC started to loop every now and >then. It turned out there was a bug in our assembler code reading data >set entries from the catalog using IGGCSI00. The code did not correctly >handle th

Re: Check out June 2011 | TOP500 Supercomputing Sites

2011-07-20 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
efinnel...@aol.com (Ed Finnell) writes: > _June 2011 | TOP500 Supercomputing Sites_ > (http://www.top500.org/lists/2011/06) > > That's a whollottaflops... and a whole lot of sparcs ... regardless of what sun/oracle is doing. recent comment (in linkedin) thread that possibly a blade mega-dat

Re: ESTAE testing question

2011-07-20 Thread Chuck Arney
Temporarily, on entry to your ESTAE routine put 12 in R0 to simulate the situation without actually having it occur. Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Internet-enable your applications with z/Ware V2 Voice: 214-800-8900 X#5562 -- This e-mail is private and ma

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 7/20/2011 7:15 AM, Norbert Friemel wrote: GA22-7501-14z/OS Hot Topics issue 24: "ONTOP: In Europe, you can allow IBM Support to analyze your dumps remotely through On-line Technical Operation (ONTOP), a TCP/IP-based application." Great info. Thanks! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 09:15:31 -0500, Norbert Friemel wrote: > > >GA22-7501-14 z/OS Hot Topics issue 24: > Sorry, it's issue 18 (Feb. 2008) Norbert Friemel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, sen

Re: ESTAE testing question

2011-07-20 Thread Chris Craddock
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Paul Schuster wrote: > Hello: > > The manual 'z/OS V1R12.0 MVS Assembler Services Guide' has this statement: > "The case where an SDWA is not provided > is rare." > > Is there a way to force this kind of condition in order to actually test an > ESTAE that is tripp

ESTAE testing question

2011-07-20 Thread Paul Schuster
Hello: The manual 'z/OS V1R12.0 MVS Assembler Services Guide' has this statement: "The case where an SDWA is not provided is rare." Is there a way to force this kind of condition in order to actually test an ESTAE that is tripped with this condition? Thank you. Paul

Re: ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:53:36 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Does 'ONTOP' have some historical significance? If not, what is your >speculation >as to its meaning? Is it a 'joke' name for a HLQ? Like, "I'll get right on top >of that!" > > GA22-7501-14z/OS Hot Topics issue 24: "ONTOP: In Europe,

Re: Check out June 2011 | TOP500 Supercomputing Sites

2011-07-20 Thread Bill Fairchild
I checked it out. Japan is way out in front of the rest of the pack with an 8.0 petaflop system. In second place is China with a 2.6 PF system. The USA's top winner puts out only 1.75 PF, yet the article states "The U.S. is tops in petaflop/s with five systems performing at that level; Japan

SDB (optimal?) BLKSIZE on tape device

2011-07-20 Thread R.S.
(SDB - System Determined Blocksize) I just coded LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=0,BLKSZLIM=2G on MDL tape device in 3590 mode. I noticed something strange for me: SDB was 229360B, but it's NOT the largest block available! The device also accepted BLKSIZE=262080 (the largest multiple of 80 less than 256kiB).

Re: How to merge two differents files with ICETOOL

2011-07-20 Thread Frank Yaeger
Hilario G. at IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 07/18/2011 05:18:02 AM: > I need to obtain an output file of 300 bytes from two differents files: > > - FILE1 with a lenght of 80 > - FILE2 with a lenght of 300 > > I need to merge both files, first FILE1 and after FILE2. > > I have several test

ONTOP?

2011-07-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Does 'ONTOP' have some historical significance? If not, what is your speculation as to its meaning? Is it a 'joke' name for a HLQ? Like, "I'll get right on top of that!" IBM Update 7/19/11 4:54 PM Untersed data now available on MCEVS1-System : /ecurep/pmr/2/5/25438,227,000/2011-07-20/25438.227

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 21:50:21 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >Well... I don't know, but I speculate that the failure to load most >REFR modules into store-protected storage in the early days was an >attempt to avoid providing an easy to use mechanism for unauthorized >programs to put arbitrary data int

Re: APF and the initiator (IEFIIC)

2011-07-20 Thread Clement Clarke
Hi Alan, It is possible that looking at the source code of some programs I wrote recently to allow 3,000 character parameter fields, and to create control cars with Symbolic Parameters inserted might be of interest. The LONGPARM program uses the same ATTACH that the next generation of JCL la

Re: "Reentrant" vs "Threadsafe" (was RE: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4)

2011-07-20 Thread McKown, John
Answered in the Wikipedia article. Relation to thread safety It must not be confused with thread-safe. A function can be thread-safe and still not reentrant. For example, a function could be wrapped all around with a mutex which avoids problems in multi-threading environments, and if that funct

Re: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4

2011-07-20 Thread Gary DiPillo
> > I have a batch program (A) that is re-entrant. However, statically linked > > to it is a program (B) that is not re-entrant. > > I thought that in this situation, the entire load module would be marked > non-reentrant by the linkage editor and treated as such during > execution; e.g., a new

"Reentrant" vs "Threadsafe" (was RE: Re-entrant module stores into itself with no 0C4)

2011-07-20 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John McKown > > Just to be my usual self. In general in CS, "reentrant" does not mean > "non-self modifying". Many programs which do not modify themselves are > still not reentrant due to uncoordinated updating of shar

DFSMSdss mistery - DELETE PURGE

2011-07-20 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Hi listers, This morning I encountered with a DFSMSdss mistery, and is next: I delete files in a batch process through ADDRSU utility, the syntax follows: //CLEANUP0 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //OUTDDDD DUMMY //SYSINDD * DUMP DATASET(INCLUDE(HLQ.Q1.Q2.Q3.**)) - CAN

Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands

2011-07-20 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > > -- > In my 20 plus year career I have seen a lot more people with mainframe > backgrounds expressing a willingn

After z/OS 1.12 RSU1106 IGGCSI00 returns entry error indicator for first time

2011-07-20 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
After activting z/OS V1.12 RSU1106, an STC started to loop every now and then. It turned out there was a bug in our assembler code reading data set entries from the catalog using IGGCSI00. The code did not correctly handle the case when IGGCSI00 marked an entry in the workarea to be in error. Ob

Re: Main memory usage

2011-07-20 Thread Chokalingam Thangavelu
Please send me the white paper about memory usage. Regards, Chokalingam Thangavelu TWUL Mainframe Support Thames Water IS In partnership with Wipro Technologies Mobile - 0091-96864 33224 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Fab

Recall: Main memory usage

2011-07-20 Thread Chokalingam Thangavelu
Thangavelu Chokalingam (WT01 - ENU) would like to recall the message, "Main memory usage". Please do not print this email unless it is absolutely necessary. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addres