Re: JES 40 and 52 exits

2011-10-01 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi Mike, Exit 52 (and the corresponding exit 2) are for modifications to the JOB statement, not the JCL, so that's not the place to add your two cards (unless they are to be added to the JOB card). The proper place to change JCL and add cards within the JCL stream itself (under JES) is in

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2011-10-01 Thread James Obrizok
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Re: TCBFX vs. TCBNOIRB

2011-10-01 Thread Peter Relson
TCBFX is not part of the programming interface and as such it should not be used under any circumstance. Discussion of its behavior can be entertaining but you should not expect much in the way of facts on the subject. Basically TCBFX and TCBNOIRB are involved with suppression of IRBs / SIRBs.

Interesting article today on the BBC website about the top tech firms

2011-10-01 Thread Linda Mooney
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Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-01 Thread Ed Gould
Phil, We had vm on a 4331 for testing. I think we had Edgar (40 years) is I long time to remember. My fuzzy memory was that it came with the IPO. IBM had xedit in the IBM Ed centers and there were enough differences at times I would swear at the 3270. Then on top of that DOSVSE Had it's own

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-01 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Ed, I have a strong suggestion. If you don't remember something clearly, don't post. You're always saying I think, or mentioning your fuzzy memory. If you're not sure, don't post. I have the same problem, and if I'm not sure of my facts, I don't post, or I look it up. Eric Bielefeld Sr.

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 985915eee6984740ae93f8495c624c6c21dc349...@jscpcwexmaa1.bsg.ad.adp.com, on 09/30/2011 at 08:52 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com said: There is no version of XEDIT available in any form (or wasn't the last time I checked, anyway). XEDIT only came with VM/SP2 and up, I

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 201109291802.p8ti2a7x001...@dave.dignus.com, on 09/29/2011 at 02:02 PM, Thomas David Rivers riv...@dignus.com said: Can anyone point me to a description of the CMS non-relocatable load module format? For Virtual Machine Facility/370, but not for any of the chargeable versions. --

Re: OT to my collegues

2011-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1317328017.55479.yahoomail...@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com, on 09/29/2011 at 01:26 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Is that I am getting older or are people forgetting how to read IBM manuals . Yes. It were ever thus. Most people in the field seem to rely on urban legends

Re: OT to my collegues

2011-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1317329708.85777.yahoomail...@web65505.mail.ac4.yahoo.com, on 09/29/2011 at 01:55 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said: Has a manager on VM who has use learn the VM commands under the clists. I might believe EXEC, EXEC2 or REXX, but CLIST? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg

Re: OT to my collegues

2011-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00afc0ed...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 09/29/2011 at 03:41 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: But, this is the Windows generation. Where everything should be intuitive But isn't, at least not in windoze. I don't have a link, but Abbott and

Re: OT to my collegues

2011-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4e851657.1080...@ync.net, on 09/29/2011 at 08:07 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net said: As long as we have the current liberal and politically correct press, public ridicule will remain stifled. As long as we have the current right wing politically correct media, public ridicule will

Re: OT to my collegues

2011-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of98ae8349.26cab4de-onc125791b.00186155-c125791b.001bf...@deutscherring.de, on 09/30/2011 at 07:05 AM, Michael Klaeschen michael.klaesc...@deutscherring.de said: One day I had a really big problem. Of course, it was my fault, I had forget some details and been too stupid before, etc pp...

Re: OT to my collegues

2011-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1317402530.12618.yahoomailmob...@web161404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on 09/30/2011 at 10:08 AM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said: APPLE is supposedly famous for ease of use Of course, but that doesn't mean that it really is easy to use. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-01 Thread zMan
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote: Ed, I have a strong suggestion.  If you don't remember something clearly, don't post.  You're always saying I think, or mentioning your fuzzy memory. If you're not sure, don't post.  I have the same problem, and if

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
li...@akphs.com (Phil Smith III) writes: Yes, Edgar was an add-on product. It was somewhat similar to XEDIT in a lot of ways. There were apparently a number of full-screen CMS editors inside IBM, but XEDIT is the one that got picked for VM/SP. x-over from z/vm mailing list:

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-01 Thread Ed Finnell
These things take on religious zeal pretty quickly. I was having a pretty good tussle with the VMer's in our shop about ISPF under VM and they wrote some real poison pen memos to the PHB's. Guess the silencer was we did a little tour and they were all using Qedit or what ever it was called

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-01 Thread Phil Smith
Ed Finnell wrote: These things take on religious zeal pretty quickly. I was having a pretty good tussle with the VMer's in our shop about ISPF under VM and they wrote some real poison pen memos to the PHB's. Guess the silencer was we did a little tour and they were all using Qedit or what ever

Re: Interesting article today on the BBC website about the top tech firms ----- OT

2011-10-01 Thread Jim Thomas
List ... my apologies ... just a quick question if I may. Linda .. are you in the UK ?? and if so .. where ??. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Interesting article today on the BBC website about the top tech firms ----- OT

2011-10-01 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Jim, Not in the UK, never been there.  I do like the BBC website.  Linda - Original Message - From: Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 7:53:52 PM Subject: Re: Interesting article today on the BBC website about the

Re: CMS load module format

2011-10-01 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
p...@voltage.com (Phil Smith) writes: Yeah, editors are definitely religion. But ISPF on VM sucked unequivocally just because of how fragile it was, due to how they implemented it - whether you liked the functionality or not, having to deal with it breaking all the time was horrible. And left

Re: Interesting article today on the BBC website about the top tech firms ----- OT

2011-10-01 Thread Jim Thomas
My apologies Ma'am, In the US but was raised in Dulwich, hence my question. Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Interesting article today on the BBC website about the top tech firms ----- OT

2011-10-01 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Jim, No need for apologies, I didn't mind the question at all.  If you don't mind my  asking, where is Dulwich? Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 9:14:56 PM Subject: