Re: TSO SCREENSIZE

2011-11-11 Thread Mike Wawiorko
3270 is 40 years old and still in use as the most common interface to z/OS for programmers and systems programmers. Maybe not such a bad design choice? Certainly not stupid. How many of us have ever used the various web interfaces to z/OS for any length of time? Reverting to tried and

Notification at file update (state of art)

2011-11-11 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi I'm asking for the last state to get notification at file updates. My colleagues planning an application, would run on all possible platforms, and would get notification, if a file has changed/renamed/scratched in a file system. In z/OS it would be enough to deal with a DSN qualifier

Re: Notification at file update (state of art)

2011-11-11 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
If you have a scheduling system, this can probably do it, CA-7 and ControlM do. You can define a dataset rule and the action to take (usually run a job). Kees. Miklos Szigetvari miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com wrote in message news:4ebcf044.7090...@isis-papyrus.com... Hi I'm asking

SYSPARM in IEASYMxx problem

2011-11-11 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Hello, I am restructuring LOADxx and IEASYMxx. We had the following in LOADxx, e.g. for the Q1 LPAR: LPARNAME Q1 SYSPARM L0 Causing IEASYS00 and IEASYSL0 to be processed for this LPAR. I removed the SYSPARM statement from

[DB2 z/OS] USER CATALOG - Rules of Thumb and best practices

2011-11-11 Thread Rodney Krick
Thank you very much for the valuable pieces of information! Here the points I've noted from your posts, in order to help others that may search for the same topic. The original question: I'm looking for some DB2 specific recommendations regarding User Catalogs, specially if there are any rules

Re: SYSPARM in IEASYMxx problem

2011-11-11 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:40:35 +0100, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: It looks like the SYSPARM statement in IEASYMxx can not handle system symbols. However I cannot find any reference to docs stating that this is not allowed. Does anyone have experience with this? See the note @

Re: SYSPARM in IEASYMxx problem

2011-11-11 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Norbert Friemel nf.ibmm...@web.de wrote in message news:8518503691052623.wa.nf.ibmmainweb...@bama.ua.edu... On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 11:40:35 +0100, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote: It looks like the SYSPARM statement in IEASYMxx can not handle system symbols. However I cannot find any reference

Re: SMF 119 report

2011-11-11 Thread Donald Likens
MEAS 5.0 from Infosec Inc. captures 119 records and sends them to SIEM technology to be reported or alerted. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message:

Re: 3270 archaeology (Was: TSO SCREENSIZE)

2011-11-11 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of William Donzelli Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 12:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 3270 archaeology (Was: TSO SCREENSIZE) I happen to have a GX20-1878-3 (October 1978)

Re: TSO SCREENSIZE

2011-11-11 Thread Lloyd Fuller
There was also a 2250 in that timeframe, but I do not remember the size. We had one of each in Stuttgart, but could not use them because the request for the extra memory to be able to run the communications program was cut from the budget request. The general did not care about the system

The IBM Displays Memory Lane (Was: TSO SCREENSIZE)

2011-11-11 Thread Chris Mason
To all who may be interested in the 2250 The Wikipedia article is quite short so here it is in its entirety. quote IBM 2250 The IBM 2250 Graphics Display Unit was announced as part of System/360 in 1964. Unlike most modern computer displays, which show images in raster format, the IBM 2250

SV: The IBM Displays Memory Lane (Was: TSO SCREENSIZE)

2011-11-11 Thread Thomas Berg
About the 2250, a link with a photo of the wonder in action: http://www.columbia.edu/cu/computinghistory/2250.html   Regards, Thomas Berg _ Thomas Berg   Specialist   A M   SWEDBANK

Re: The IBM Displays Memory Lane (Was: TSO SCREENSIZE)

2011-11-11 Thread Mike Myers
The 2250 was very interesting to me. I took a class on 2250 programming in 1968. I learned that it had both character and graphics mode. The character mode was of special interest and I developed a full-screen editor that let the group I was working in at the time develop and edit source code

ZNALC Option for LICENSE Parameter

2011-11-11 Thread Mark Jacobs
I seem to remember that if your system was IPL'ed in zOSe mode you were limited to 8 TSO userids at a time. Does ZNALC have the same enforced restriction or anything else that we have to keep in mind? (Ignoring the allowed workload licensing restrictions) -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service

IBM 2250

2011-11-11 Thread John Gilmore
The 2250 and its precursors were heavily used as a part of IBM's collaboration with CBS News to provide presidential election-night coverage in the United States, IBM's participation being directed at familiarizing viewers with its technology. As Chris Mason has implied, the distinction between

Re: ZNALC Option for LICENSE Parameter

2011-11-11 Thread Walter Marguccio
From: Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com I seem to remember that if your system was IPL'ed in zOSe mode you were limited to 8 TSO userids at a time.  Correct. Does ZNALC have the same enforced restriction or anything else that we have to keep in mind? No, under zNALC you can have

Hiperspaces

2011-11-11 Thread Scott Ford
All:   Has anyone used Hiperspaces via Assmelber ? Created ? Read from ?  Wrote to ? I have started the processs of reading the manuals and have a basic understanding. What I want to do is have a program read and place its SYSPRINT output (large amt - 300,000 - 121 byte records) to either a

Re: TSO SCREENSIZE

2011-11-11 Thread Ed Gould
Shmuel, My memory was faulty. The screen size was not as I stated.as others have correctly stated the right size. The army post I was at was doing a development of an online system for a proposed worldwide army supply system. The displays were either 2260#39;s or 3270-1#39;s the 40 years has

Data Areas?

2011-11-11 Thread Steve Horein
Hi Listers, This isn't about missing Data Area manuals, but rather missing Data Area maps? I'm interested in IOS Vector Table, whose address can be found in IOCOM. But what next? I've searched all six volumes of MVS Data Areas manual for IOVT and IOCIOVTP hoping to find Pointed to by:, but

Re: Hiperspaces

2011-11-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:03:01 -0800, Scott Ford wrote: What I want to do is have a program read and place its SYSPRINT output (large amt - 300,000 - 121 byte records) That's not such a large amount. Less than 40MB. Under 50 cylinders. to either a datasopace or hiperspace. After the data is

Re: Hiperspaces

2011-11-11 Thread Rob Scott
Hiperspaces are typically used when you are dealing in chunks of 4K pages - I think dataspaces would be more suitable if you insist on an AR-Mode solution as it allows direct byte access. However, there are a few alternatives to consider here : (1) Shared memory objects (2) PC-ss to add

Re: Hiperspaces

2011-11-11 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Ford Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 10:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Hiperspaces All:   Has anyone used Hiperspaces via Assmelber ? Created ? Read from ?  Wrote

Re: 3270 archaeology

2011-11-11 Thread Lynn Wheeler
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: That came later, along with the 3278 and 3279, we complained to kingston that 3274/3278 was much worse for interactive computing that 3272/3277 ... kingston eventually came back and said that 3274/3278 target market was data entry

Re: Hiperspaces

2011-11-11 Thread Scott Ford
Guys/Gals:   Thank you, I had thought about dataspaces also. I have to dig some more, but thanks to all I have otehr options now. Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com   From: Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu

Re: SMF 119 report

2011-11-11 Thread Andy White
, I now have an MXG report and a Rexx exec to maul over and make work. Thank to all that replied! Andy S. White Re: [IBM-MAIN] SMF 119 report Donald Likens to: IBM-MAIN 11/11/2011 08:07 AM Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Please respond to IBM

Re: Hiperspaces

2011-11-11 Thread Dave Day
Scott, I wuld try to answer a couple of questions before starting any design/coding effort. 1)Who needs access to the data?(what address spaces/jobs) and 2)How long does it have to be available? I believe how you answer that will determine how you should proceed. If only one job, then I

Re: TSO SCREENSIZE

2011-11-11 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 11/10/2011 02:58 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: ---snip Remember how old the 3270 architecture is. Wikipedia says about 1972. Think 1 Mhz 8080 as top of the line micro processor. The original 3277 and its controllers were

Re: 3270 archaeology (Was: TSO SCREENSIZE)

2011-11-11 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 11/11/2011 1:07 AM, Larry Chenevert wrote: The channel attached control units for those 3270's were notorious for generating interface control checks, which the operating systems of the era (OS/VS1, SVS, and MVS 3.8) were notorious for responding by entering disabled waits, resulting in many

Re: The IBM Displays Memory Lane (Was: TSO SCREENSIZE)

2011-11-11 Thread Lynn Wheeler
m...@mentor-services.com (Mike Myers) writes: The 2250 was very interesting to me. I took a class on 2250 programming in 1968. I learned that it had both character and graphics mode. The character mode was of special interest and I developed a full-screen editor that let the group I was

Re: 3270 archaeology

2011-11-11 Thread Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#20 a different problem with moving all the electronics back into the 3274 controller (and making terminal response agonizingly slow) was that it really drove up the channel busy time for any kind of operation. this is old reference to Jim Gray palming

Re: Hiperspaces

2011-11-11 Thread Jim Mulder
Has anyone used Hiperspaces via Assmelber ? Created ? Read from ? Wrote to ? I have started the processs of reading the manuals and have a basic understanding. What I want to do is have a program read and place its SYSPRINT output (large amt - 300,000 - 121 byte records) to either a

Re: Data Areas?

2011-11-11 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 10:16:31 -0600, Steve Horein steve.hor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Listers, This isn't about missing Data Area manuals, but rather missing Data Area maps? I'm interested in IOS Vector Table, whose address can be found in IOCOM. But what next? I've searched all six volumes of MVS

Re: 3270 archaeology (Was: TSO SCREENSIZE)

2011-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 0A25A0D191144ABB8F0649705ADAA187@DJVBN391, on 11/11/2011 at 12:07 AM, Larry Chenevert larrychenev...@verizon.net said: The channel attached control units for those 3270's were notorious for generating interface control checks, which the operating systems of the era (OS/VS1, SVS, and MVS

Re: TSO SCREENSIZE

2011-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In ec49fd6778df264ba80cde73700a2de002fa61a...@mukpbcc1xmb701c.collab.barclayscorp.com, on 11/11/2011 at 09:21 AM, Mike Wawiorko mike.wawio...@barclays.com said: Maybe not such a bad design choice? Perhaps, but you haven't made a case. How many of us have ever used the various web interfaces

Re: TSO SCREENSIZE

2011-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1321016908.8332.yahoomai...@web82202.mail.mud.yahoo.com, on 11/11/2011 at 05:08 AM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said: There was also a 2250 in that timeframe, Considerably more expensive than a 2260. Worth it for graphics, but not if you just needed text. -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: 3270 archaeology (Was: TSO SCREENSIZE)

2011-11-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4ebd5c40.8090...@valley.net, on 11/11/2011 at 12:32 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net said: Only the ATT and one Telex gave us problems Then you should have ordered from GTE :-( The worst incident I recall was when the C.E. was asked to plug a new 3272 as address 0C0, and he

Re: SMF 119 report

2011-11-11 Thread Neil Duffee
I sent my tiny SAS sample directly to Andy. -- signature = 6 lines follows -- Neil Duffee, Joe SysProg, U d'Ottawa, Ottawa, Ont, Canada telephone:1 613 562 5800 x4585 fax:1 613 562 5161 mailto:NDuffee of uOttawa.ca http:/ /aix1.uottawa.ca/ ~nduffee How

Re: 3270 archaeology (Was: TSO SCREENSIZE)

2011-11-11 Thread Ed Gould
Gerhard, I agree with you. We had over 1200 3270#39;s locally attached and never had issues with IBM controllers or devices. Where we did have issues was we had an OEM channel extender. That gavesusno end of problems. At one time I was providing the vendor with2 or 3 dumps a day and they

Re: 3270 archaeology (Was: TSO SCREENSIZE)

2011-11-11 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 11/11/2011 3:34 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Then you should have ordered from GTE :-( The one that didn't handle wrap-around correctly? You didn't have the STC (later STK) tape drives where only every other jumper position was used but the CE documentation didn't mention the fact?

3270 archaeology

2011-11-11 Thread Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com (Lynn Wheeler) writes: the 3274 controller also had lots of bugs requiring the it be reset/re-impl'ed ... however, we discovered a hack to force 3274 to re-impl w/o requiring manual operation ... just very quickly hit every subchannel address with HDV/CLRIO operation in tight

Re: [DB2 z/OS] USER CATALOG - Rules of Thumb and best practices

2011-11-11 Thread Paul Peplinski
One exception to that would be if you intend to use system backup and system restore. Each subsystem needs two dedicated catalogs, BSDS, LOGS and ARCHLOGS in one, and all other stuff in another (at least that was the guidance given to us). Paul

Re: [DB2 z/OS] USER CATALOG - Rules of Thumb and best practices

2011-11-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Why? --Original Message-- From: Paul Peplinski Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: [DB2 z/OS] USER CATALOG - Rules of Thumb and best practices Sent: 11 Nov 2011 17:26 One exception to that would be if

Re: Data Areas?

2011-11-11 Thread Steve Horein
Thanks Mark, Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with the term OCO. Using a portion of your IPLINFO exec as an example: CVTIXAVL = C2d(Storage(D2x(CVT+124),4)) /* point to IOCM */ IOCIOVTP = C2d(Storage(D2x(CVTIXAVL+208),4)) /* pt to IOS Vect Tbl */ CDA =

Re: Data Areas?

2011-11-11 Thread Bob Shannon
OCO: Object Code Only. It means that not all of the control blocks are externalized. (That means they are not documented). Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: TSO SCREENSIZE

2011-11-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
The 2260, controlled by a 2848 controller, was a separate family of displays. We used them at Michigan Tech under a system called RAX. Rick - Ed Gould wrote: Rick, My memory is iffy here as well but I do remember that we had 12 x 80 screens but

Re: TSO SCREENSIZE

2011-11-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip There was also a 2250 in that timeframe, but I do not remember the size. We had one of each in Stuttgart, but could not use them because the request for the extra memory to be able to run the communications

Re: Data Areas?

2011-11-11 Thread Steve Horein
I see. So while not impossible to make my own maps for reference, it will/would be a tedious and time consuming effort. Thanks for the explanation! On Nov 11, 2011 5:07 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote: OCO: Object Code Only. It means that not all of the control blocks are

Re: Data Areas?

2011-11-11 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 11/11/2011 5:37 PM, Steve Horein wrote: Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with the term OCO. Like I mentioned, IOVT/IOCIOVTP isn't the first address I've encountered that once I got there, I didn't know exactly what I was looking at! I do think the Data Area manuals are extremely helpful by

Re: Data Areas?

2011-11-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 November 2011 19:56, Steve Horein steve.hor...@gmail.com wrote: I see. So while not impossible to make my own maps for reference, it will/would be a tedious and time consuming effort. Thanks for the explanation! It can be so, but it can also be educational and even at times, fun.

Re: Notification at file update (state of art)

2011-11-11 Thread Donald Likens
MEAS from Infosec Inc. currently monitors file update activity (SMF 015 records). It could be easily updated to monitor scratch/rename SMF activities. MEAS is design to pass these events to SIEM or logger systems that can be used to send email or other real time notification systems but it

Re: Data Areas?

2011-11-11 Thread Steve Horein
Thanks for the tip! I did pass along the IPCS command LISTEDT DETAIL to the DASD guy the other day, but I'm not sure if that was a usable solution. On Nov 11, 2011 9:41 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: On 11 November 2011 19:56, Steve Horein steve.hor...@gmail.com wrote: I see. So while

Re: ZNALC Option for LICENSE Parameter

2011-11-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
Walter Marguccio writes: under zNALC you can have as many TSO users as you like. That's a technical capability, but one could easily imagine that as many TSO users as you like would be inconsistent with your license agreement.