John Gilmore wrote:
My post provoked a good many responses, and I am happy thagt it did so.
:-D
What is interesting about them is that the arguments against my view, many of
them cogent, were bureaucratic, not technical.
There is a reason - if you are hosting other's data, you had be careful
W dniu 2011-11-18 16:58, Steve Comstock pisze:
On 11/18/2011 8:48 AM, Lindy Mayfield wrote:
In the UK and other parts of Europe, they say them this way:
(,) Brackets (Open and close)
[,] Square bracket s
{,} Curly brackets
. Full stop
So the term 'parentheses' is unknown or unused?
The
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 01:38:10 -0600 Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
:John Gilmore wrote:
:My post provoked a good many responses, and I am happy thagt it did so.
::-D
:What is interesting about them is that the arguments against my view, many
of them cogent, were
Hi,
Are there any opensource (Java based) software mainframe emulator which can
run inside Internet Explorer . I am just trying to enable the mainframe
connection for the remote users.
Regards,
Jags
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1. You can simply switch off all NIP consoles. Then HMC SYSCON
(Operating system messages) will be used for IPL.
2. You can try to use 3270 emulator capabilities to capture console
stream to PC file. AFAIR it does NOT work for PCOMM (at least for NIP
console mode). I would try another emulator.
Dear Listerr
I am trying to create multiple entry point for single PL/1 Load module. My
source is
MSTST : PROC OPTIONS (MAIN) REORDER;
DEFAULT RANGE(*) STATIC;
PUT SKIP LIST(' MSTST ENTRY POINT');
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On 11/22/2011 1:19 AM, Munif Sadek wrote:
Dear Listerr
I am trying to create multiple entry point for single PL/1 Load module. My
source is
MSTST : PROC OPTIONS (MAIN) REORDER;
DEFAULT RANGE(*) STATIC;
PUT SKIP LIST(' MSTST ENTRY POINT');
END;
MSTSTE: PROCEDURE;
It is possible, but I do not recommend that you attempt to construct
an OPTIONS(MAIN) procedure that has multiple entry points.
You may, however, construct a multiple entry-point subroutine easily,
and some of these entries may be functions. Consider the skeletal
multiple-stack manager
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Subject: Re: Simple record extraction from a sequential file
My post provoked a good many responses, and
On 11/22/2011 03:15 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote:
Hi,
Are there any opensource (Java based) software mainframe emulator which can
run inside Internet Explorer . I am just trying to enable the mainframe
connection for the remote users.
Regards,
Jags
...
If you are talking about remote access
Ed,
I did not say that a JCL sort (or any other utility job) with only control
cards as program need not be tested at all, only that the lifecycle processes
and paperwork *may* be less stringent and thus easier to navigate quickly when
there is a need to do so.
Any process that even permits
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In
CACdKjFqzy=wdkw1ty-mgbcd6oahhepfzdeviddfjjbk0_-k...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/21/2011
at 02:43 PM, Donald Russell russell@gmail.com said:
Though clearly the programming effort to write my own code to do this
is trivial, the reason for wanting a canned solution is to avoid
all the business
John Gilmore wrote:
It is possible, but I do not recommend that you attempt to construct
an OPTIONS(MAIN) procedure that has multiple entry points.
You may, however, construct a multiple entry-point subroutine easily,
and some of these entries may be functions. Consider the skeletal
At my last position (major corporation), I tried to get them to go to GMT with
setting an offset. The biggest push back I got was from our tuning expert
because he would have to put an adjustment into the SMF data manipulator (based
on SAS). I never bought the argument, but then again, I
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:55:04 -0600, Mark Hammack wrote:
At my last position (major corporation), I tried to get them to go to GMT with
setting an offset. The biggest push back I got was from our tuning expert
because he would have to put an adjustment into the SMF data manipulator
(based on
*FYI* here is something useful our local IBM team pointed out today. If you
are using z/OSMF or PUTDOC and SR you probably won't find anything new here but
pulls together some documentation and the site links to where you can upload
documentation through a browser for a PMR outside SR.
A new
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za (Elardus Engelbrecht) writes:
Not everyone can program properly. Not everyone can program a fast
tight code specially optimised for that specific record layout and
format and do it in Assembler. Those teenagers who can program in PL/I
are very good, I admit, but
Most weird. We have the TOD clock set to GMT (more or less), and the TIMEZONE
set to W.06 (US Central). The timestamps in the SMF records at our shop are in
LOCAL time (1/100 seconds since local midnight). Back when we had SAS, we used
these times directly. We did not do any offset manipulation
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 07:23:45 -0600, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
...
If you are talking about remote access to a mainframe, what you more
likely mean is a telnet3270-capable 3270 terminal emulator, not a
mainframe emulator. A java-based mainframe emulator would be totally
gross in terms of performance -
At my company we use GMT and offset from it for the time on our zOS system.
We also use MXG/SAS.
I was not aware that TOD was a requirement for SAS.
Might be an MXG thing but our times are properly reported.
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Dave,
The example I posted addressed only the OP's question about how
syntgactically to construct a multiple-entry PL/I procedure.
Your C counter-example is comprised of many C functions, as many as
there are entries.
PL/I differs from C in making much that C embeds implicitly in code
explicit
Paul Gilmartin mentions that there is a lot of sympathy here for
abandoning local time entirely.
I wish there were more.
There are many questions---Diamonds?| Rubies?| Emeralds?--about which
differences among competent, informed people are possible, even
likely. This is not one of them. Local
Well we still have a issue as I have been burned with oem and IIRC IBM utility
and for that matter JES2 changes that killed production because of a JCL or
control card change. From a sketchy memory DFSORT, JES2 were all culprits of
IMO unforgivable sin of changing rules. Without proper hold
In 4ecac35b.7050...@ync.net, on 11/21/2011
at 03:32 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net said:
The only name I heard for it, that I remember, was inverted
circumflex.
An inverted circumflex[1] would look like a logical Or, not like a
logical Not (¬), which is a horizontal segment and a
In 2216332688619964.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@bama.ua.edu, on
11/22/2011
at 01:38 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
said:
Those teenagers who can program in PL/I are very good, I admit, but
what is the PL/I overhead?
For what? The last time that I looked the
In 4ecb9897.6080...@trainersfriend.com, on 11/22/2011
at 05:41 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said:
Hmm. Try changing your alias to:
ALIAS MSTSTE(MSTST1)
That won't do what he asked for. He needs an ALIAS statement for each
INCLUDE PLIOBJ
SETSSI 0040
ALIAS
It's the accent above the r in Dvořák. There is also an accent above the
a. The word hachek (hacheck, or transliterated any other way one likes)
is, of course, self-referentially spelled with a hachek in Czech -- háček. I
can only hope that all my diacritics survive the various email editors
The ‘inverted circumflex’, as in ‘ă’, is in fact more like a lower
semicircle than an inversion of the circumflex in ‘â’. It occur alone
and in combination with other marks, as in ‘ặ ’, ‘ắ’, and ‘ẵ’.
Linguists writing in English, in which it does not occur, sometimes
call it a cup. In the
Hi,
How do I obtain the md5sum of a file located in USS directory ?
I have come across the CSNBOWH callable ICSF function. But, I am looking
for a JCL job step type of solution. In the ported tools page, I see a link
for sha command, but not for md5.
Apology if this question sounds too basic;
On 11/22/2011 8:54 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In4ecb9897.6080...@trainersfriend.com, on 11/22/2011
at 05:41 AM, Steve Comstockst...@trainersfriend.com said:
Hmm. Try changing your alias to:
ALIAS MSTSTE(MSTST1)
That won't do what he asked for. He needs an ALIAS statement
Greetings!
snip---
The mark over the 'a' in 'ä' is, for example, called a diaresis in English
and an umlaut in German.
/snip---
Even in my English class it was called an umlaut, but that is the only one of
the marks (is that the proper term?) that I recognize. I
[top posting]
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I pulled
the OPTIONS(MAIN) off the OP's code for
running my tests.
On 11/22/2011 10:24 AM, Steve Comstock wrote:
On 11/22/2011 8:54 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In4ecb9897.6080...@trainersfriend.com, on 11/22/2011
at 05:41 AM, Steve
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:54:23 +0530, #3240;#3262;#3223;#3271;#3254;#3277;
#3256;#3265;#3244;#3277;#3248;#3257;#3277;#3246;#3235;#3277;#3247;
(N wrote:
Hi,
How do I obtain the md5sum of a file located in USS directory ?
I have come across the CSNBOWH callable ICSF function. But, I am looking
Yes, CSNBOWH does MD5. In the syntax for this function, the input is to be
provided is expected to be a string; not a file.
N
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote:
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:54:23 +0530,
#3240;#3262;#3223;#3271;#3254;#3277;
On 11/22/2011 10:30 AM, Linda Mooney wrote:
Greetings!
snip---
The mark over the 'a' in 'ä' is, for example, called a diaresis in English
and an umlaut in German.
/snip---
Even in my English class it was called an umlaut, but that is the only one of
the marks (is that the
Look up diacritic in Wikipedia and be prepared to drink from the fire hydrant
of knowledge on scores of different marks used in hundreds of human writing
systems.
Bill Fairchild
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Linda
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[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ?? ???
(Nagesh S)
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:24 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: MD5 hash of a USS file ?
Hi,
How do I obtain the md5sum of a file located
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 23:15:07 +0530, #3240;#3262;#3223;#3271;#3254;#3277;
#3256;#3265;#3244;#3277;#3248;#3257;#3277;#3246;#3235;#3277;#3247;
(N wrote:
Yes, CSNBOWH does MD5. In the syntax for this function, the input is to be
provided is expected to be a string; not a file.
I did say SMOP.
I'm an idiot again. That is just an example. It doesn't actually process an
input file. But hopefully it is of some use for thinking about the problem.
John McKown
Systems Engineer IV
IT
Administrative Services Group
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9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX
I wanted to use Java (http://code.google.com/p/guava-libraries/) as a last
resort. So, perhaps REXX calling CSNBOWH is the option to go.
If only md5um were also available as ported tools, it would have served my
purpose of checking the sums also.
SMOP...I didn't know it was internet acronym !
N
Linda Mooney wrote:
| Can anyone offer a link with these marks that includes something
about them, and
| hopefully audible enunciation?
Sound bites are useful, but mastery of the linguists' International
Phonetic Alphabetic is what you should shoot for first.
The marks can be deceptive.
I have no objection to the occasional one-second shutdowns that the
use of leap seconds requires, provided of course that z/OS manages
them itself.
In the two international meetings on this topic that I have attended,
the hidden objection to the use of leap seconds turned out to be that
they
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Gilmore
You have a response that apparently meets your needs.
Your question interests me for another reason. I asked two admittedly
very bright 15 year olds to
write a parameterized--a value V, a field of
Frank Yaeger wrote:
Rick Fochtman on IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote
on 11/21/2011 01:38:29 PM:
Take a look at DFSORT, using INCLUDE/EXCLUDE control statements
For the record, that's INCLUDE/OMIT, not INCLUDE/EXCLUDE.
Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team
-snip
I am of course familiar with production-control schemes. Production must
be orderly, but in my experience bureaucratic controls alone do not
reduce errors: They only diffuse responsibility.
Why not just run a SYNC on the BRODCAST dataset and be done with it?
Rick
Jerry Whitteridge wrote:
Another vote for Sam's excellent Broadcast utilities. They should be in every
sysprogs tool box if responsibilities
I think you'll find that multiple entry points are NOT permitted for a
PL/I Main Program; only for a subroutine, where the PL/I environment
vis-a-vis save areas, error handling, etc. are already established.
Rick
John Chase wrote:
| Everybody has a SORT utility. Not everybody has a [PL/I|other
HLL] compiler.
This, I suppose, is nearly true. Not quite everyone has DFSORT or
SYNCHSORT, and almost everyone has some IBM statement-level
procedural-language compiler and the HLASM; but neither of these
In
143900959.130026.1321983016994.javamail.r...@sz0042a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net,
on 11/22/2011
at 05:30 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net said:
Even in my English class it was called an umlaut,
The accent in, e.g., Jütte, is an umlaut. The diacritical mark in,
e.g., naïve, is a
In 4ecbdad9.8070...@trainersfriend.com, on 11/22/2011
at 10:24 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said:
call mstst;
call mstste;
You left out
call mstste1
So either way, the binder control statements work.
See above.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
In
CAPD5F5ocmnYbZyTtpkPMcGC=4uiprhsv6xjaw4w2qb-lrre...@mail.gmail.com,
on 11/22/2011
at 12:02 PM, John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com said:
Linguists writing in English, in which it does not occur, sometimes
call it a cup.
The /\ and \/ characters are also known as cap and cup in
In
77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca3449...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com,
on 11/22/2011
at 04:47 PM, Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com said:
I can only hope that all my diacritics survive the various email
editors through which they pass.
Alas, my e-mail client doesn't support
Another Google search turned up the fact that this code (actually some other
code that is very similar to this) would omit leading zeroes when it prints the
md5 hash. That information might also be of some use to anyone thinking of
using the code. Some strings that should produce a hash with a
John,
I think you would be hard pressed not to find a MVS machine that did not have
some sort of sort installed. now whether it is. The full compatibility of the
two main sorts are equilivant. One can quible over one point or the other but
they are running neck and neck. What made our
On 11/22/2011 2:56 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In4ecbdad9.8070...@trainersfriend.com, on 11/22/2011
at 10:24 AM, Steve Comstockst...@trainersfriend.com said:
call mstst;
call mstste;
You left out
call mstste1
So either way, the binder control statements work.
See
For your last resort, I found a Java program for this, that I have briefly
tested on Linux and Windows.
At this website:
http://www.rgagnon.com/howto.html
Click on Security, then click on Create a checksum
Copy and paste the program to your editor.
Change this line:
John,
Good point about the scientific MF#39;s I was just considering business
machines.
I do not know if they run MVS or not and have no way of checking.
Can anyone come up with MVS machines that do not have a sort?
I would think it has to be a small subset. I would understand VM not having a
Hello Bill,
Thanks for the tip on the leading zeros part. Something to keep in mind
when using this code ...
N
On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Bill Godfrey yak36...@yahoo.com wrote:
Another Google search turned up the fact that this code (actually some
other code that is very similar to
Hi John,
Nothing beats an accomplished and/or native speaker. Still, the 'sound bites'
are usually better than the native English speaker's attempt at figuring out
how things should sound. :)
Some years ago I had the great opportunity to spend 2 years living in Germany
and
Hi Shmuel,
Thanks, I appreciate the info and the links.
Linda
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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 2:06:53 PM
Subject: Re: Terminology
In
Hi Bill,
Yes, that was indeed and abundant reference!
Thanks,
Linda
- Original Message -
From: Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:45:19 AM
Subject: Re: Terminology
Look up diacritic in Wikipedia and be
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