On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 13:32:12 -0500, Knutson, Sam sknut...@geico.com wrote:
Most shops have at least one or two vendor products that are being maintained
and
paid for purely due to inertia which could be replaced without any impact to
their
business by functions included at no additional
Hi Joel,
I truly appreciate the amount of time you spent explaining each of my
concerns. The definition for the VSAM files were inherited, but I didn't
know many of the facts that have changed over the years. Us old timers are
very slow to change our ways... I will do as your recommend. One other
Nobody mentioned another issue:
Licence fee is growith with the MIPS (or MSU).
It is quite obvious that avg MIPS base is constantly growith.
I don't know Microsoft prices, but I still need ONE licence of MS
Windows and MS Office for my PC. But during last 10 years MIPS base of
my PC increased
George,
You might want to take a look at SYS1.SAMPLIB(ARCSTRST). There are several
variances between your define cluster and what is supplied by IBM. Since IBM
wrote the code, I tend to defer to their recommendations.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
I've been asked if there is a way to see ISPF split sessions in parallel
in multiple windows, and remembered the ISPF workstation agent WSA. I
haven't looked into this for ages. The ISPF download panel only talks
about Windows 2000/NT. Trying to run the downloaded file on Windows 7
ends with a
Hi Dave,
That's even better. Who knows more that the powers to be in IBM land...
I've made the changes according to the member in SYS1.SAMPLIB.
Thanks to everyone whose assisted me gaining valuable knowledge!
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W dniu 2012-01-27 13:45, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) pisze:
I've been asked if there is a way to see ISPF split sessions in parallel
in multiple windows, and remembered the ISPF workstation agent WSA. I
haven't looked into this for ages. The ISPF download panel only talks
about Windows 2000/NT.
After the REORG these are the stats:
F DFSMSHSM,Q CDS
ARC0101I QUERY CONTROLDATASETS COMMAND STARTING ON
ARC0101I (CONT.) HOST=1
ARC0947I CDS SERIALIZATION TECHNIQUE IS RESERVE
ARC0148I MCDS TOTAL SPACE=646560 K-BYTES, CURRENTLY
ARC0148I (CONT.) ABOUT 50% FULL, WARNING THRESHOLD=90%, TOTAL
Our MSUs on the z have actually gone down. Our z vendors hate us. I don't blame
them. I blame the economy and won't go into who I blame for that as it is
purely my opinion.
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Look up the TAPECOPY command in the dfSMS/hsm Storage Admin Guide..
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2S680/2.40
?SHELF=DGT2BK90DT=20090610113354
HTH,
snip
Currently we are creating duplex tape copies for ML2 in HSM. We are
using logical tape (VTS), and we used to
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 07:14:07 -0600, John McKown wrote:
Our MSUs on the z have actually gone down. Our z vendors hate us. I don't
blame them.
John,
Did your MSUs go down because you moved applications off the mainframe, or are
you still running the same applications at a reduced transaction
We use VDR from OpenTech to copy ml2 tapes from VTL to have an offsite copy
that is 3590 physical tapes.
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at 01:45 PM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)
peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com said:
I've been asked if there is a way to see ISPF split sessions in
parallel in multiple windows, and remembered the ISPF workstation
I think if you have CA1 then you get COPYCAT. This can also be used to copy
your VTS tapes to physical for shipping offsite.
Lizette
Michael Wickman
We use VDR from OpenTech to copy ml2 tapes from VTL to have an offsite
copy that
is 3590 physical tapes.
Look up the TAPECOPY command
Lizette,
How would that work at DR? How do you update the HSM CDSs to point to the new
vol sers?
Actually I have the same question for the previous post using Opentech VDR.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: Lizette Koehler
There is an internal proposal to carve several TB of dasd from one of our
non-mainframe depts. And use it to replace our aging HDS DASD.
Question: How easy/difficult is this to accomplish?
We re-configured an array from 3390 mod-3s to mod 27/50s but the entire array
needed to be cleared of
For the disaster situation, VDR would be updating HSM to correct the volser and
label information. It's a can process they do, so you just need the time for
it to run. We have not tried this yet since we have a replicated VTL. The VDR
is the plan B if we lose both primary and replicated
So you changed the warning threshold from 80% to 90% even though you believe
you have a problem that requires repeated and frequent fixing? It seems like
you have just reduced the window during which you can fix the problem.
From what I can see, one issue you need to address is: Why are 30% of
The reason for the higher threshold was suggested by someone that was
having the same perceived problem I was having. I sat perceived, because
it's really not a problem. Now that I have a better understand on what's
happening, I think I'll be okay. The command that checks the status of the
file
A larger MCDS would help as well. You only have 900 cyls. Unless you are
incredibly squeezed on DASD, I would suggest a much larger CDS.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: Schwarz, Barry A [barry.a.schw...@boeing.com]
Sent: Friday, January 27,
Hi,
We don't have VDR, but we do have CA1 copycat. I actually thought about that,
but I think that would not be possible since HSM is controlling the tapes and
not CA1.
I am in the process testing the tape copy to get the alternate volume to native
3590.
Thank you,
Judith
On 1/27/2012 7:50 AM, Hunkeler Peter , KIUP 4 wrote:
I've been asked if there is a way to see ISPF split sessions in parallel
in multiple windows, and remembered the ISPF workstation agent WSA. I
haven't looked into this for ages. The ISPF download panel only talks
about Windows 2000/NT. Trying
On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Schwarz, Barry A
barry.a.schw...@boeing.com wrote:
So you changed the warning threshold from 80% to 90% even though you believe
you have a problem that requires repeated and frequent fixing? It seems like
you have just reduced the window during which you can
David,
That's a very good question. OpenTech Systems VDR product will make the
necessary updates to the MCDS so that HSM will know about the new volumes.
Whether VDR is restoring primary or alternate copies the MCDS will be
updated correctly.
Don
Don Bolton
Director of Technical Services
I don't quite understand how the US Announcement (312-001) that clearly states:
Today, IBM® announces a price increase for the z/OS® operating system.
Effective with the billing period that starts on or after April 1, 2012 the
monthly license charges (MLC) will increase
z/OSMF is the way to go if you really want multiple windows in the same ISPF
session.
I respect Tom's opinion, but IMO the z/OSMF interface, while clever, is a
kludge. Each window requires a separate TSO session. Five windows requires
five TSO sessions. I think it was written only to provide
This will not help the MCDS space utilization issue. It will only save
the migration time/CPU.
snip
If they are recalling and migrating datasets quickly, RECONNECT can
reuse the migrated copy and save writing out that dataset.
/snip
Judith,
OpenTech Systems VDR product will allow you to stack many HSM 3490 tapes on
one 3590. At DR, the 3590's would be unstacked into another virtual tape
library while updating the MCDS.
Don
Don Bolton
Director of Technical Services
OpenTech Systems, Inc.
On 1/27/2012 8:48 AM, Pinnacle wrote:
On 1/27/2012 7:50 AM, Hunkeler Peter , KIUP 4 wrote:
I've been asked if there is a way to see ISPF split sessions in parallel
in multiple windows, and remembered the ISPF workstation agent WSA. I
haven't looked into this for ages. The ISPF download panel
To answer the question posed by Radoslav and Rex:
Hitachi VSP system
It currently has 600GB 10K RPM SAS disks in it.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: Pommier, Rex R. [rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 10:13 AM
To:
Okay, I'll bite. Where does one place the RECONNECT parm?
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WAS on Win 7 x64 doesn't work period. I have tried everything suggested, it's
just not compatible. The installer is failing..without it ..well forget it
unless you install on an older version of windows and copy over, kludge city
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setsys TAPEMIGRATION(ML2TAPE(TAPE(3590-1))RECONNECT(ALL))
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: George Rodriguez [george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 11:10 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: MCDS Dataset Help
This is set up during HSM initialization(or dynamically). Check the
fine manuals regarding SETSYS TAPEMIGRATION RECONNECT(ALL)
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Okay, I'll bite. Where does one place the RECONNECT parm?
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z/OSMF comes with a no charge version of WAS called WASOEM.
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On 1/27/2012 8:48 AM, Pinnacle wrote:
[ snip ]
Peter,
The Workstation Agent is functionallly stabilized. z/OSMF is the way
to go if you really want multiple windows in the same ISPF session.
Peter
There is a CICS list, CICS-L:
http://listserv.uga.edu/archives/cics-l.html
There is also an IMS list, IMS-L:
http://www.lsoft.com/scripts/wl.exe?SL1=IMS-LH=IMSLISTSERV.BMC.COM
Chris Mason
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:22:27 -0600, Peter Ten Eyck
peter_tene...@farmfamily.com wrote:
Hi Don,
I wonder if CopyCat works like that as well. I know it stacks many logical
tapes to the 3590's, but I will have to check to see if it would update the
MCDS as well.
Thank you,
Judith
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Judith,
You should direct that question to CA support.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: Judith Nelson [jnel...@sfgmembers.com]
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 11:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: different tape media for ML2 copies in
If you're going to use the RECONNECT parm, which is part of FSM(Fast Subsequent
Migration) then you need to make sure that you have these set accordingly:
MIGRATIONCLEANUPDAYS(#1 #2 #3) we have ours set at (5 14 5)
These are the parms that determine how long, in # of days, the MCDS records are
Judith,
That is a question best answered by CA whom usually monitors this listsrv.
Sorry,
Don
Don Bolton
Director of Technical Services
OpenTech Systems, Inc.
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Hi Dave,
I will do that, and then let you know what I find out.
I think if that would work it would be the easiest solution to implement.
Thank you,
Judith
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Another would be (for simple SEARCH commands) to use either RACROUTE
REQUEST=EXTRACT,TYPE=EXTRACTN.
Does anyone know where I might find a sample of this function?
I'd like to extract the OTHER groups that are available to the current user.
Thanks,
Dan D.
Hi Peter,
I believe you need to be on the same LPAR as the IMS region for DBCTL. For IMS
connect, this is not an issue.
The DBCTL connect attachment is local to the host system in the same way as
attachment to a local DB2 subsystem (vs. distributed, e.g. DRDA 3-part name or
jdbc type 4). A
Dave,
You just went outside my knowledge base - I know nothing about the VSP. This
should be an easy question for HDS to answer. Does the box already have FICON
in it? Will you be taking the entire array or just a portion of it for the
mainframe?
I know that on older HP/HDS disk arrays
Hmmm, good idea with the CICS to CICS approach, I will research that a bit.
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The cbttapes are good see file 080
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On Jan 27, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Dan mvs-j...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Another would be (for simple SEARCH commands) to use either RACROUTE
REQUEST=EXTRACT,TYPE=EXTRACTN.
Does
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:23:51 -0600, Dan mvs-j...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Another would be (for simple SEARCH commands) to use either RACROUTE
REQUEST=EXTRACT,TYPE=EXTRACTN.
Does anyone know where I might find a sample of this function?
I'd like to extract the OTHER groups that are available to
Peter,
I've been successfully running WSA on Windows 7 for quite some time, both on 32
and 64 bit. The only thing that doesn't work is the installer, but the product
itself works fine. Simply copy the entire WSA directory from a previous
installation to the Win 7 computer, thereby bypassing
Barbara,
See APAR OA32453 (closed last year). It addresses the problem(s) associated
with using HYPERPAV (and the WLMPAV option) for paging devices.
Regards,
Charles Mari
IBM - ASM/RSM Development
Thanks Dave I will give it a try, I have another machine running Win/XP
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On Jan 27, 2012, at 2:21 PM, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com wrote:
Peter,
I've been successfully running WSA on Windows 7 for quite some time,
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 15:55:18 +, Bob Shannon wrote:
z/OSMF is the way to go if you really want multiple windows in the same ISPF
session.
I respect Tom's opinion, but IMO the z/OSMF interface, while clever, is a
kludge. Each window requires a separate TSO session. Five windows requires
Ditto here.
Another option would be to use a virtual machine. I keep an instance of XP
around for that odd ball situation where something won't run on my Win7 host.
I use VMware at work, but Virtual Box from Oracle is free. I use it at home
and am quite happy with it.
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On 1/27/2012 7:51 AM, Al Sherkow wrote:
I don't quite understand how the US Announcement (312-001) that clearly states:
Today, IBM® announces a price increase for the z/OS® operating system.
Effective with the billing period that starts on or after April 1, 2012 the
On 27 January 2012 15:40, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
o A long-running process in one window locks operations in all
other windows. (Am I wrong? I thought this was fundamental
to the design of TSO.)
It's fundamental to the design of ISPF, but not to that of TSO. The
reason
On 01/27/2012 10:42 AM, Judith Nelson wrote:
Hi Don,
I wonder if CopyCat works like that as well. I know it stacks many logical
tapes to the 3590's, but I will have to check to see if it would update the
MCDS as well.
Thank you,
Judith
...
Very seriously doubt it. CopyCat has hooks into
Hi Peter,
Under Windows 7, I have had great success installing programs written for older
Win OS versions by inst alling th ose programs with Compatibility Mode. It is
part of Win7, and free. I often get an error message with install and/or first
use, but so far, things just run.
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:37:40 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote:
On 27 January 2012 15:40, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
o A long-running process in one window locks operations in all
other windows. (Am I wrong? I thought this was fundamental
to the design of TSO.)
It's fundamental to the design of ISPF,
Hello,
Newbe again .. I have three TSO/ISPF sessions going. Only one gives me this
problem. I didn't consciously cause it.
.. am wanting to edit a pgm in CBL.PGMS (prob is also true for CBL.CPYBKS, etc
in this session), so I put 'e' as follows..
DSLIST - Data Sets Matching CON*
On 1/27/2012 7:55 AM, Bob Shannon wrote:
z/OSMF is the way to go if you really want multiple windows in the same ISPF
session.
I respect Tom's opinion, but IMO the z/OSMF interface, while clever, is a kludge. Each
window requires a separate TSO session. Five windows requires five TSO
You probably, somehow, set M as an initial macro. Bring up a member in
edit as you are now doing. Look up at the top row. See the
Edit_Settings, which is 3rd from the left? Place your cursor on that
and press ENTER. This brings up a dialog box. The first field in that is
labelled User session
Judith,
At this time, CA Copycat will not update the MCDS with the new volser,
fileseq, and blockid. Sorry, for HSM it is best to use HSM to copy / forward
merge their tapes.
Russell Witt
CA 1 L2 Support Manager
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Lizette,
How would that work at DR? How do you update the HSM CDSs to point to
the new
vol sers?
Actually I have the same question for the previous post using Opentech
VDR.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
Dave,
We actually use the
On 1/27/2012 5:19 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote:
On 1/27/2012 7:55 AM, Bob Shannon wrote:
z/OSMF is the way to go if you really want multiple windows in the same ISPF
session.
I respect Tom's opinion, but IMO the z/OSMF interface, while clever, is a
kludge. Each window requires a separate TSO
David,
Firstly, I work for HDS.
I'm assuming you mean that the VSP is the storage in the non-mainframe dept,
and the aging HDS DASD is a 9980V or earlier controller.
In order for the VSP to support CKD volumes you will need to install a FICON
feature. This is two boards for a total of 16 FICON
Bill,
You said If the shared control unit attached to this device is not an IBM
2105 SHARK (vintage ca. 2000), plug-compatible equivalent, or some successor
technology, then image A's I/O will not really be started until image B's
already started I/O ends.
Logical Device allegiance was
David,
The problem with a real 3390-9 was rotation latency. IOSQ time was more of
a symptom then a feature.
The 3390-9 in IBM livery had three logical 3390 CKD tracks on a physical
track and spun at one third of the speed of the 3390-3. Average latency was
21ms, compared to 7ms on the mod 3s.
Allan,
Unless you are using Aliases and a striped RAID topology.
Ron
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I meant to send this earlier but was fighting another
Dennis,
If the thread count for the file is one then you won't have a problem.
You can calculate if you will have an IOSQ problem by calculating the
weighted average service time across your 27x3390-3 and applying Little's
Law to one tenth of the total IO rate.
If the weighted average service
Shmuel,
And a side bar - if the three 3390-3 are accessed from three different
LPARs, then consolidating them will mean zero impact without PAV because MDA
will allow concurrent IO to cache and disk.
Don't shoot me - it's an academic point.
Ron
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Gil,
I'm not sure I understand why there would be increased seek lengths on the
3390-9 SLED..
The avg seek of a 3390 as almost the same as a 3390-9, but intra-dataset
seek time was reduced by up to two thirds because the same size dataset used
one third of the platter radius.
Ron
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