On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:36:41 -0500 Huckert, James said:
>I have to agree with bill on some points but there are exceptions. I am 28
>and I have been a mainframe operator for about 5 years now and I am looking
>to get into system programming. I was raised with a strong work ethic and I
>do all I ca
James,
Since this may be of interest to others on the list, I am replying to
the list as a whole rather than directly. I am also taking the liberty of
copying the text of an email sent to me by David Meck of Marist University (at
my request). This information is now out-of-date, but it
In
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on 09/21/2005
at 06:36 AM, "Huckert, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>I have to agree with bill on some points but there are exceptions. I
>am 28 and I have been a mainframe operator for about 5 years now and
>I am looking to get into system programming. I was raised w
In a message dated 9/22/2005 4:32:10 A.M. Central Standard Time,
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Thank you to all who replied. Just like Rex states we too didn't have the
money for two systems so a parallel sysplex was out of the question. Banks,
especially small ones, are notoriously cheap. We w
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From: Pommier, Rex R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sorry, Ted, but I have to disagree with you on that second point (and
apparently in the case of the 706
in Information week: Mainframe Programmers Wanted
>I can understand not having everything on your mainframe
because if it crashes, well then a lot of stuff would be down. ...
That's specious for two reasons:
1. Mainframes rarely crash.
2. Can you spell PARALLEL SYSPLEX boys & girls?
>I can understand not having everything on your mainframe
because if it crashes, well then a lot of stuff would be down.
...
That's specious for two reasons:
1. Mainframes rarely crash.
2. Can you spell PARALLEL SYSPLEX boys & girls?
-teD
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All others bring data!
-- W. Edwards De
James,
We have an MP3000 H50. In the 4 years we have had it, I don't think it has
ever crashed for problems with hardware. We had 1 outage where a software
package caused a crash, and a couple times the power went out, but never a
hardware outage caused by the MP3000.
If you are looking for a j
I have to agree with bill on some points but there are exceptions. I am 28
and I have been a mainframe operator for about 5 years now and I am looking
to get into system programming. I was raised with a strong work ethic and I
do all I can to make sure my work is done and done right the first time
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/20/2005
at 07:24 AM, Paul Hanrahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Just go to the tool bar of the browser and click view and source then
>you can be responsible for some code.
Every time someone says "I don't believe in theories", another theory
dies. The theory that t
PM
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Subject: Re: Article in Information week: Mainframe Programmers Wanted
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/19/2005
at 01:09 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>The alternative are the systems evolving from the interactive, desktop
>par
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/19/2005
at 01:09 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>The alternative are the systems evolving from the interactive,
>desktop paradigm ... which assume that the responsible person is
>right there and the system can always rely on a human for resolutio
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 15:38:23 EDT, Bill Fairchild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>There are societal factors that could account for this difference in work
>ethics or attitudes other than just having to work with expensive computing
>resources. In the 1960s and 1970s most young adult professionals sti
On 19 Sep 2005 10:49:03 -0700, "WM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I think you're on the right track, John. I've got a kind of
>half-developed theory that staff that grew up in the mainframe era,
>where computing resources were extremely expensive and data centers
>were, actually, awesome, take
WM wrote:
> I think you're on the right track, John. I've got a kind of
> half-developed theory that staff that grew up in the mainframe era,
> where computing resources were extremely expensive and data centers
> were, actually, awesome, take their work very seriously.
>
> Conversely, staff that
On 19 Sep 2005 10:49:03 -0700, "WM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I think you're on the right track, John. I've got a kind of
>half-developed theory that staff that grew up in the mainframe era,
>where computing resources were extremely expensive and data centers
>were, actually, awesome, take their
In a message dated 9/19/2005 8:50:45 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>The shortcuts give us tremendous advantage - until the destination
>changes. Then the young guys' willingness to explore gives them the
>advantage as they find the new shortcuts.
There are trad
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:02:27 EDT, Bill Fairchild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>Older people also have more wisdom in general than younger people. In order
>to learn, one must be teachable (aka humble) and pay attention to one's
>teacher. Younger people are often not yet teachable because they a
king any action
based on it, is strictly prohibited.
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 7:48 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Article in
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/17/2005
at 09:34 AM, Bill Fairchild <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>(3) too set in his ways (more age discrimination; younger people
>really do learn new things faster, in general, and are more willing
>to learn; shame on me - my age discrimination is showing; I pr
In a message dated 9/17/2005 8:45:11 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>The older men in the karate classes tend to learn more quickly than the
>younger men. I guess there are exceptions to every rule.
Older people also have more wisdom in general than younger people.
Bill,
The older men in the karate classes tend to learn more quickly than the
younger men. I guess there are exceptions to every rule.
Paul Hanrahan
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A few thoughts on the Information Week article
I was a little disappointed th
In a message dated 9/17/2005 7:37:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>the programmer who
>laments the fact that headhunters aren't phoning him. At the same time he
>said he plans to retire in one year. Wild guess: maybe prospective
>employers don't want to hire someo
A few thoughts on the Information Week article
I was a little disappointed that the article didn't attempt to separate the
various labor market forces at work, and so the end result seems a bit
confused. For example, offshoring and outsourcing is a global IT
phenomenon. That's going on with
nformation week: Mainframe Programmers Wanted
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