Re: CSI TV show - was RE: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/16/2008 at 11:08 AM, "Pommier, Rex R." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Friday or not, some of us don't care about CSI-anything. You don't use SMP? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/19/2008 at 03:02 PM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >It is supported with basic sysplex. Then why didn't you say so? >Doesn't my statement - "Basic vs. Parallel sysplex isn't the issue" >already imply that clearly enough? Obviously not. -- Shmuel

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On Mon, 19 May 2008 15:24:39 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/19/2008 > at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>Basic vs. Parallel sysplex isn't the issue. > >It's part of the issue. > No, it isn't. >> It's whether you ar

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/19/2008 at 12:08 PM, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Basic vs. Parallel sysplex isn't the issue. It's part of the issue. > It's whether you are using a shared (sysplex) file system > configuration. And the question is whether that is supported with basi

Re: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/16/2008 at 08:08 AM, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >We have two systems in a basic, not parallel, sysplex. The BPXPRM00 >member of PARMLIB has SYSPLEX(NO) specified. We normally back up all >volumes on SY1. However, SY2 has some UNIX filesystems mount in

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/16/2008 at 10:24 AM, "O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >The OP mentions 'backup jobs' which suggests to me it might be FDR (or >something else) rather than HSM. The OP wrote "ADRDSSU (DFSMSdfp)" (sic)[1], so it's neither FDR nor HSM, but

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On Mon, 19 May 2008 11:22:46 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >on 05/16/2008 > at 07:16 AM, "Traylor, Terry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>If you use HSM to do backups, then the quiesce will be done via HSM >>automatically. > >In a basic sysple

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/16/2008 at 09:33 AM, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >The original post stated ADRDSSU aka DFDSS aka DFSMSdfp. Actually, DFDSS is not DFSMSdfp and you did not write DFDSS, but rather the incorrect DFSMSdfp. BTW, I definitely recommend that you use logica

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/16/2008 at 07:16 AM, "Traylor, Terry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >If you use HSM to do backups, then the quiesce will be done via HSM >automatically. In a basic sysplex, which is what the OP says that he has? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

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We hit a problem in this area a while back, and as a result, have to change our backup method for OMVS file systems, too, from full volume dump plus logical increments to logical ADRDSSU dumps. In addition to that, we had to make sure that during system shutdown the F OMVS,shutdown=filesys gets

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containing UNIX filesystem datasets > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chase, John > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:20 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem dat

Re: CSI TV show - was RE: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets

>Friday or not, some of us don't care about CSI-anything. I don't care if you >send the thread off to la-la land, but at least change the subject so those of >us who don't care can delete them. I agree. We are getting wayy to manyyy OT threads. And, why should Friday be special. IBM-Mai

Re: [MVS-OE] Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets

> -Original Message- > From: MVS OpenEdition [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of William Schoen > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 12:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [MVS-OE] Backing up volumes containing UNIX > filesystem datasets > > That is my

Re: CSI TV show - was RE: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets

At 11:08 -0500 on 05/16/2008, Pommier, Rex R. wrote about CSI TV show - was RE: Backing up volumes containing UNIX fi: From what I see on various CSI fora, his "demise" is not yet as "final" as was McLean Stephenson's exit from M*A*S*H. While Col. Blake's death was reported on the show, if yo

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CTED] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chase, Joh

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> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Chase, John > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 11:20 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets > > > -Ori

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> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McKown, John > [ snip ] > > OT: I'm having a very bad week, capped off with one of my > favorite characters on CSI being murdered in yesterday's > episode. Stupid, but it has me really down today. >From what I see o

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> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of O'Brien, David W. > (NIH/CIT) [C] > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:24 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Backing up volumes containing UNIX file

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On Fri, 16 May 2008 07:16:50 -0700, Traylor, Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >If you use HSM to do backups, then the quiesce will be done via HSM >automatically. > >Excerpt from z/OS UNIX System Services User's Guide > Not if you backup from SYSA and the file system is owned by SYSB and you are

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Terry, The OP mentions 'backup jobs' which suggests to me it might be FDR (or something else) rather than HSM. John, Could you be more specific regarding your backup methodology? From: Traylor, Terry Subject: Re: Backing up volumes conta

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on List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 6:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

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> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden > Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 8:30 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets > > On Fri, 16

Re: Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets

On Fri, 16 May 2008 08:08:00 -0500, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We have two systems in a basic, not parallel, sysplex. The BPXPRM00 >member of PARMLIB has SYSPLEX(NO) specified. We normally back up all >volumes on SY1. However, SY2 has some UNIX filesystems mount in R/W >mode. We are

Backing up volumes containing UNIX filesystem datasets

We have two systems in a basic, not parallel, sysplex. The BPXPRM00 member of PARMLIB has SYSPLEX(NO) specified. We normally back up all volumes on SY1. However, SY2 has some UNIX filesystems mount in R/W mode. We are z/OS 1.8. We are using ADRDSSU (DFSMSdfp) to do the backups. I know that ADRDSSU