Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Herring, Bobby
@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] CLOCK change problem TOD Clock switch AFAIK came in with the 370. I remember it specifically on the 168 my memory is iffy on the 155/158 but I think it was there, no experience on the 14X . If it was there on the 360#39;s I never heard/saw anything about it. Ed

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
bherr...@txfb-ins.com (Herring, Bobby) writes: TOD Clock switch AFAIK came in with the 370. I remember it specifically on the 168 my memory is iffy on the 155/158 but I think it was there, no experience on the 14X . If it was there on the 360s I never heard/saw anything about it. TOD was

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1314066987.61701.yahoomailmob...@web161424.mail.bf1.yahoo.com, on 08/22/2011 at 07:36 PM, Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com said: If it was there on the 360#39;s I never heard/saw anything about it. There was no TOD clock on the S/360, hence no need to enable setting it. -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 025201cc6133$a6310ac0$f2932040$@us, on 08/22/2011 at 08:26 PM, Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us said: I started off on the HDW side from the 360's It didn't exist on the 360. I do fully remember a 'green' switch that had to be enabled to 'change' the time Called something like

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In m339gsf99o@garlic.com, on 08/23/2011 at 11:16 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com said: lower-end 360s would update location 80 appox. every 3mills No. From S/360 PoOps: Timer feature The timer is provided as an interval timer and may be programmed to maintain the time of day.

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#27 CLOCK change problem 32bit value with 15hr duration ... different models decrement bits depending on timer resolution of the model. re: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/funcChar/GA24-3231-7_360-30_funcChar.pdf pg. 29, Interval Timer The Model

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-22 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Of Chase, John Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 5:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sir, My sincere apologies ... right you are and yes, it was from the old Kung Fu

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 07ea01cc5e6a$1a9e0650$4fda12f0$@us, on 08/19/2011 at 07:18 AM, Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us said: Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?. As in a physical toggle switch on the early S/370 boxen. But these days all of the pretty buttons, dials, rollers and toggles have been

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-22 Thread Jim Thomas
@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem In 07ea01cc5e6a$1a9e0650$4fda12f0$@us, on 08/19/2011 at 07:18 AM, Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us said: Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-22 Thread Ed Gould
TOD Clock switch AFAIK came in with the 370. I remember it specifically on the 168 my memory is iffy on the 155/158 but I think it was there, no experience on the 14X . If it was there on the 360#39;s I never heard/saw anything about it. Ed

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Jim Thomas
(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Jim Thomas
Of Alvaro Guirao Lopez Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem I will see at manuals, zPDT is stopped when you stop z/OS image, it is supossed that z/OS may work normally so the IPL procedure must works but its's true that there are other

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Chase, John
Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us wrote: :Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?. A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Steve Comstock
, August 19, 2011 7:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomasj...@thethomasresidence.us wrote: :Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?. A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had to be in the enable position. No idea how

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Steve Comstock
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us wrote: :Switch

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Jim Thomas
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 5:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Hai Shidoshi ... Watashi o keihatsu

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Jim Thomas
) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On 8/21/2011 12:32 AM, Jim Thomas wrote: Hai Shidoshi ... Watashi o keihatsu

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Steve Comstock
: CLOCK change problem On 8/21/2011 12:32 AM, Jim Thomas wrote: Hai Shidoshi ... Watashi o keihatsu shite itadaki arigatogozaimasu. Watashi wa sore o shitte ita koto ga nai. Watashi wa nipponjin de wa nai asa ga nai I'm sorry .. I just could not resist ... :-) But it should have been

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Jim Thomas
: Re: CLOCK change problem On 8/21/2011 2:39 PM, Jim Thomas wrote: Sir, My apologies ... 'so desu ne' ?? .. chinese ?? .. Forgive me .. aside from Japanese, I also knew Mandarin but 'so desu ne' is Japanese ... and essentially it just means that you're agreeing (indifferently). I'm just

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sir, My sincere apologies ... right you are and yes, it was from the old Kung Fu series ... I've just come to a point where I don't (automatically) think that people are old enough to know what I

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Jim Thomas
:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sir, My sincere apologies ... right you are and yes, it was from the old Kung Fu series ... I've just come to a point where I don't

CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Hi listers, I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to OPERATOR PROMPT to change the local and UTC/GMT hour. Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply * 00 IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00 IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME I reply with R

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
Hi listers, I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to OPERATOR PROMPT to change the local and UTC/GMT hour. Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply * 00 IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00 IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME I reply

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez alvarogui...@gmail.com wrote: :I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to OPERATOR PROMPT to change the :local and UTC/GMT hour. :Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply :* 00 IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00 : IEA888A LOCAL

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAGzfoX8H04UzBWfSh8kbSssYzxR9=p-aiy4fjrzqg5njtuo...@mail.gmail.com, on 08/19/2011 at 01:25 PM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez alvarogui...@gmail.com said: and then appears again the CLOCK without my change Was TOD update enabled? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
The system is z/OS V1R11 under zPDT at Red Hat Linux, logically, I don't have STP. The CLOCK member it's at one of my PARMLIB's libraries configuration and is like follows: OPERATOR PROMPT TIMEZONE E.02.00.00 ETRMODE NO ETRZONE NO ETRDELTA 10 STPMODE NO STPZONE NO I can change my local hour

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
I reply with R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at the time: R 00,U and then appears again the CLOCK without my change * 00 IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00 IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Then I only change the local hour, in this case system don't issues IEA903A message. I have tried and this is the result: * 00 IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00 IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME 2011/8/19 Jim Thomas j...@thethomasresidence.us

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem Hi listers

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Alvaro Guirao Lopez Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem Then I only change the local hour, in this case system don't issues IEA903A message. I have tried and this is the result: * 00

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
6:56 AM :To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem : :On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez :alvarogui...@gmail.com wrote: : ::I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to OPERATOR PROMPT to change the ::local and UTC/GMT hour. : ::Whe I IPLed the system it prompt

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
not set STPMODE :to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP. :-Original Message- :From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf :Of Binyamin Dissen :Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM :To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
. :-Original Message- :From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf :Of Binyamin Dissen :Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM :To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem : :On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf :Of Binyamin Dissen :Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM :To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem : :On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez :alvarogui...@gmail.com

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf :Of Binyamin Dissen :Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM :To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem : :On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez :alvarogui...@gmail.com wrote: : ::I have z/OS

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
. :-Original Message- :From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf :Of Binyamin Dissen :Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM :To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem : :On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf :Of Binyamin Dissen :Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM :To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem : :On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
:Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM :To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem : :On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez :alvarogui...@gmail.com wrote: : ::I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to OPERATOR PROMPT