Re: CSP

2011-08-25 Thread Timothy Sipples
Clark Morris asks: Does EGL generate any better code than the awful spaghetti GO TO laden COBOL code of CSP? Do not look directly into the sun. :-) Kind of missing the point. Generated code isn't supposed to be pretty, maintained, or even looked at. If you want to write beautiful COBOL, write

Re: CSP

2011-08-25 Thread Clark Morris
On 24 Aug 2011 23:19:14 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Clark Morris asks: Does EGL generate any better code than the awful spaghetti GO TO laden COBOL code of CSP? Do not look directly into the sun. :-) Kind of missing the point. Generated code isn't supposed to be pretty

Re: CSP

2011-08-25 Thread Timothy Sipples
Clark Morris writes: The CSP code was inefficient, caused excessive COBOL compile times and required the compile option NOOPTIMIZE in general. OK. Those might be some possible reasons for writing COBOL in the 1980s. Obviously those reasons were considered and rejected. COBOL was not a secret

Re: CSP

2011-08-24 Thread Claudio Marcio
hi, I have CSP programs in my work that will need maintenance, which is why I asked your help, because I find nothing manual on the Internet. att - Original Message - From: Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday

Re: CSP

2011-08-24 Thread Timothy Sipples
Jim Link writes: Now there is no direct migration to EGL, so the customer is engaged with IBM to get some professional services help... That's true (not direct). But the supported migration path is still available: CSP to VisualAge Generator (as a brief stopover), then to Enterprise Generation

Re: CSP

2011-08-24 Thread Clark Morris
On 24 Aug 2011 00:03:08 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Jim Link writes: Now there is no direct migration to EGL, so the customer is engaged with IBM to get some professional services help... That's true (not direct). But the supported migration path is still available: CSP

CSP

2011-08-23 Thread Claudio Marcio
Hello, I need a manual CSP, can anyone help me? att Claudio -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http

Re: CSP

2011-08-23 Thread Scott Rowe
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/G1433E00 On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Claudio Marcio cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I need a manual CSP, can anyone help me? att Claudio

CSP

2011-08-23 Thread Claudio Marcio
Hello, I need a manual CSP, can anyone help me? att Claudio -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http

Re: CSP

2011-08-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
Hello, I need a manual CSP, can anyone help me? att Claudio Claudio, Can you tell us what CSP stands for? There are many names for CSP. By telling the full name, will help us. What product, what function? Lizette

How to Find a Manual (Was: CSP and Was: Degaussed URLs)

2011-08-23 Thread Chris Mason
into territory which is not necessarily z/OS territory. For example, by entering CSP in the Find box, a list of three bookshelves is located, the second of which corresponds to the URL posted by Scott Rowe: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/G1433E00 It's not what you know, it's

Re: CSP

2011-08-23 Thread Claudio Marcio
Hi, There is a program language used for mainframe called CSP, is what I want. att Claudio - Original Message - From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:15 PM Subject: Re: CSP

Re: How to Find a Manual (Was: CSP and Was: Degaussed URLs)

2011-08-23 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Chris, Your post came at an opportune time. I normally use the DVD set that I have for z/OS 1.9 when I need an IBM book, but now I need a couple of books for z/OS 1.11. Now I have the site bookmarked, so I won't lose it. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Chris Mason

Re: CSP

2011-08-23 Thread Mark Pace
Google - ibm cross system product Hopefully that will get you what you need. That product has been out of support for a long time. On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Claudio Marcio cmarc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There is a program language used for mainframe called CSP, is what I want. att

Re: CSP

2011-08-23 Thread Skip Robinson
For reasons even I don't understand, we still use CSP here. It continues to work under the latest z/OS release, although we have to use a saved copy of 1.7 SCEERUN library because we couldn't compile under 1.8. . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team

Re: CSP

2011-08-23 Thread James Link
Same here. We have one customer who did not follow the recommended migration(s) to VAG and then EGL. CSP continues to work, but as Skip said we have to keep our old 1.7 SCEERUN library. Now there is no direct migration to EGL, so the customer is engaged with IBM to get some professional

Re: CSP

2011-08-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 03bf01cc61b8$415814b0$c4083e10$@mindspring.com, on 08/23/2011 at 01:15 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said: Can you tell us what CSP stands for? Presumably Cross System Product, which used to be part of SAA. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO

Re: CSP/370 AD Manuals

2011-08-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea00afc0ed...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom, on 08/08/2011 at 02:11 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said: I don't know CSP. Cross System Product. Is it possible that the manuals are in an SAA bookshelf? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg

CSP/370 AD Manuals

2011-08-08 Thread Craig Pace
List, I have been searching and searching. We running CSP370 AD V4R1 and I have been trying to locate some softcopy manuals. Does anyone happen to know where I might be able to find some? Thanks, Craig ** This

Re: CSP/370 AD Manuals

2011-08-08 Thread McKown, John
I don't know CSP. By chance are these them? http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/EZESET03 -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck

Re: CSP/370 AD Manuals

2011-08-08 Thread Craig Pace
Thank you John! Thanks, Craig McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 08/08/2011 02:13 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: CSP/370 AD Manuals

Is rational EGL better than CSP wasRe: Documentation required for DMS/CICS

2009-06-11 Thread Clark Morris
On 10 Jun 2009 22:59:45 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: I believe those DMS/CICS publications are still orderable from IBM. You can order them online here: http://www.ibm.com/shop/publications/order For example, publication SH20-0001-01 has a U.S. dollar price of only $15.81. By the

Re: Is rational EGL better than CSP

2009-06-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
Generator (and CSP). I'm going to assume you're talking about Rational EGL deployment to z/OS using the Rational COBOL Runtime for z (5655-R29) libraries. Looks like good news on both counts. If you mean whether you can use the OPTIMIZE compiler option, the answer is yes. But you said options, so I'm

z/OS 1.9 and CSP Support

2008-08-27 Thread Shahnaz
  This is a double post to IBM-Main and CICS-L   We just upgraded z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.9 and CCS/TS 2.3 regions to CICS/TS 3.2   We are running Cross System Product (CSP) in one of my regions. This is a product from IBM and is no longer supported     The CSP is OK under CICS/TS 3.2 region

Re: z/OS 1.9 and CSP Support

2008-08-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:21:00 -0700, Shahnaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   This is a double post to IBM-Main and CICS-L   We just upgraded z/OS 1.7 to z/OS 1.9 and CCS/TS 2.3 regions to CICS/TS 3.2   We are running Cross System Product (CSP) in one of my regions. This is a product from IBM

Re: z/OS 1.9 and CSP Support

2008-08-27 Thread Myers, Edouard (OCTO)
: 202-727-3880 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.octo.dc.gov http://www.octo.dc.gov/ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mark Zelden Sent: Wed 8/27/2008 10:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS 1.9 and CSP Support On Wed, 27

Re: CSP/AD and zOS 1.8

2008-06-12 Thread Gabe Torres
Rose, We exchanged 'offlist' about our successful testing of CSP in our Test Lpar and I promised an update when we cutover to production. We converted our production lpars from z/OS 1.4 to z/OS 1.8 using the concatenation of the z/OS1.7 LE Libraries in the CSP product. Although not supported

Re: CSP/AD and zOS 1.8

2008-03-31 Thread Timothy Sipples
and install Rational COBOL Runtime for zSeries (5655-R29) in lieu of CSP. (You can also generate Java from EGL and deploy to other runtimes such as WebSphere Application Server for z/OS.) On the development client side you'd use Rational Business Developer (5724-S50). Hope that helps

Re: CSP/AD and zOS 1.8

2008-03-30 Thread Skip Robinson
Make a copy of your last LE SCEERUN library that worked with CSP for build/compile. In our case it was 1.7. STEPLIB to it. That has worked for us up through 1.9. No one will hassle you. We've had no problems with actual CSP execution through 1.9. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison

CSP/AD and zOS 1.8

2008-03-28 Thread Rose Meininger
We have a site still using CSP/AD (unsupported). The product failed in the BUILD function under under z/OS 1.8. We received word from IBM that they had customers running CSP/AD with Z/OS 1.8 reporting similiar problems. They believe the problem is in the runtime libraries for Z/OS 1.8

Re: CSP/AD and zOS 1.8

2008-03-28 Thread Ted MacNEIL
They believe the problem is in the runtime libraries for Z/OS 1.8, but they will not address as CSP/AD is no longer supported. Has anyone dealt with this issue? If yes, how did you address it short-term? I would like a short-term solution so I can implement z/OS 1.8. I think the licensing

Re: CSP/AD and zOS 1.8

2008-03-28 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Rose Meininger wrote: We have a site still using CSP/AD (unsupported). The product failed in the BUILD function under under z/OS 1.8. We received word from IBM that they had customers running CSP/AD with Z/OS 1.8 reporting similiar problems. They believe the problem is in the runtime