Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-26 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:06:54 -0500, Dave Butts dave.w.bu...@lowes.com wrote: It was an OS problem after all, and not due to the MCLs. APAR OA29370 has been opened. We have been over the 65535 device boundry for a long time, but the bug became exposed when I deleted over 5000 addresses the week

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-11 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Dave Butts dave.w.bu...@lowes.com wrote in message news:listserv%200906101506546047.0...@bama.ua.edu... It was an OS problem after all, and not due to the MCLs. APAR OA29370 has been opened. We have been over the 65535 device boundry for a long time, but the bug became exposed when I

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-11 Thread Dave Butts
Per IOCDS. Many of our addresses are open systems dasd (for FDR backup purposes). Dave On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:53:32 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM kees.vern...@klm.com wrote: Just out of curiosity: 65535 devices per what? IOCDS, storage device? Makes me feel working in a small shop...

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-10 Thread Dave Butts
It was an OS problem after all, and not due to the MCLs. APAR OA29370 has been opened. We have been over the 65535 device boundry for a long time, but the bug became exposed when I deleted over 5000 addresses the week before via dynamic iogen activate. The PAV assignment code broke because of

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-10 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: Dave Butts dave.w.bu...@lowes.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:07 PM Subject: Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped It was an OS problem after all, and not due to the MCLs. APAR OA29370 has been opened. We have been

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-10 Thread Hal Merritt
Just curious: why a POR? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Dave Butts Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped It was an OS problem after all

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-09 Thread Dave Butts
We have HyperPAV implemented on one test box. It is actually working fine. Only the WLM dynamic PAV is not working (on the rest of the dasd farm). Still working with IBM support. They are a little stumped so far, but have been able to find that the root problem is that the DBVT (Device Block

Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Dave Butts
Has anyone experienced all dynamic PAV activity just stopping? RMF reports are showing me that there have been zero changes to our alias assignments for the past couple weeks. Lickily our PAVs are currently spread out enough over the production UCBs that we have not had terrible performance

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Dave Butts dave.w.bu...@lowes.com wrote in message news:listserv%200906040916525513.0...@bama.ua.edu... Has anyone experienced all dynamic PAV activity just stopping? RMF reports are showing me that there have been zero changes to our alias assignments for the past couple weeks. Lickily

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Has anyone experienced all dynamic PAV activity just stopping? Check both your IODF WLM policy. Both have to have PAV turned on. If one doesn't, then it won't be active. We implemented dynamic, aeons ago, in the following manner: 1. Assign one alias to each volume (we had enough at the time).

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Dave Butts
The MCLs were applied on May 2. On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 16:47:59 +0200, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM kees.vern...@klm.com wrote: When was your MCL upgrade? Our last upgrade was first half of April and I still see PAVs moving. Kees. --

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/4/2009 10:02:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, kees.vern...@klm.com writes: When was your MCL upgrade? Our last upgrade was first half of April and I still see PAVs moving. Parts is parts. Guess we need to know more info. z9---z/CHPIDs---z/Controller MCL Type and

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 09:16:52 -0500, Dave Butts dave.w.bu...@lowes.com wrote: Has anyone experienced all dynamic PAV activity just stopping? RMF reports are showing me that there have been zero changes to our alias assignments for the past couple weeks. Lickily our PAVs are currently spread out

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Dick de Groot
LS, More important is your IOSQ time increasing ? Are the number of PAV adresses insufficient ? 2009/6/4 Dave Butts dave.w.bu...@lowes.com Has anyone experienced all dynamic PAV activity just stopping? RMF reports are showing me that there have been zero changes to our alias assignments for

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
More important is your IOSQ time increasing ? Are the number of PAV adresses insufficient ? The OP said he was fine, for now. But, I/O patterns do change, over the day, and over time. I still think the IODF and the WLM policy should be checked to see if it's enabled in both. It may be; it is

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Hal Merritt
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 2:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped More important is your IOSQ time increasing ? Are the number of PAV adresses

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Indeed, and that may be exactly what happened: a change to the workload eliminated or reduced volume contention such that PAV redistribution is no longer needed. I didn't say a change to the workload. I said a change to WLM or IODF. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Hal Merritt
:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped Indeed, and that may be exactly what happened: a change to the workload eliminated or reduced volume contention such that PAV redistribution is no longer needed. I didn't say a change to the workload. I said a change

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Ah, but you did: But, I/O patterns do change, over the day, and over time. And I agree with that as well the rest of your excellent advise. I guess I wasn't clear. I find it difficult to believe that not a single PAV was re-assigned in a month. That was the purpose of my 'pattern' statement.

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Dave Butts
Yea, we checked the IODF and the WLM policy. No changes there. Last IODF change was earlier in April and everything is still set for PAV in there and in the WLM policy. I liked the idea of reactivating the policy, but I checked and we have activated new policies with minor changes a couple

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Traylor, Terry
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped Has anyone experienced all dynamic PAV activity just stopping? RMF reports are showing me that there have been zero changes to our alias assignments for the past couple weeks. Lickily our PAVs are currently spread out enough over

Re: Dynamic PAV assigment has stopped

2009-06-04 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Good! All I said was: check it out! Never said it was the issue. Yea, we checked the IODF and the WLM policy. No changes there. Last IODF change was earlier in April and everything is still set for PAV in there and in the WLM policy. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!