Re: End of Support for Encryption Key Manager (EKM)

2012-04-19 Thread Knutson, Sam
al device support (E07 native tape transports, full disk encryption on DS8xxx) and of course it is a chargeable product.     Best Regards,    Sam Knutson, GEICO      System z Team Leader      mailto:sknut...@geico.com     (office)  301

Re: End of Support for Encryption Key Manager (EKM)

2012-04-09 Thread Mark Jacobs
49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: End of Support for Encryption Key Manager (EKM) I know

Re: End of Support for Encryption Key Manager (EKM)

2012-04-09 Thread Jousma, David
st Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 11:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: End of Support for Encryption Ke

Re: End of Support for Encryption Key Manager (EKM)

2012-04-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
> >I know all that, but we were floored by the statement made by IBM on the >call yesterday. I'm trying to get it confirmed. > >Mark Jacobs >>> >> I was on a conference call with an IBM storage specialist yesterday and >> he mentioned that end of support for EKM is April 2012. >> >> I've never see

Re: End of Support for Encryption Key Manager (EKM)

2012-04-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 10:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] End of Support for Encryption Key Manager (EKM) I was on a conference call with an IBM storage specialist yesterday and he men

Re: End of Support for Encryption Key Manager (EKM)

2012-04-06 Thread Ken Porowski
upport for Encryption Key Manager (EKM) I was on a conference call with an IBM storage specialist yesterday and he mentioned that end of support for EKM is April 2012. I've never seen this statement from IBM, or heard anything about it until that conference call. Can anyone confirm? -- M

End of Support for Encryption Key Manager (EKM)

2012-04-06 Thread Mark Jacobs
I was on a conference call with an IBM storage specialist yesterday and he mentioned that end of support for EKM is April 2012. I've never seen this statement from IBM, or heard anything about it until that conference call. Can anyone confirm? -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL --

Re: Password Phrase Encryption Algo?

2012-03-19 Thread Costin Enache
@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Password Phrase Encryption Algo? On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:19:37 +, Costin Enache wrote: >Of course. The final result looks like SHA-1, but several operations could >take place before - DES, etc. At the end it is a cryptographic ope

Re: Password Phrase Encryption Algo?

2012-03-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
tentially >encrypted, for RACF passworh phrases? > A one-way hash should be preferble to encryption because there should be no possibility that the key could be stolen. A dual-key ciphersystem with one key discarded is comparable to a one-way hash. From: Kirk Wo

Re: Password Phrase Encryption Algo?

2012-03-19 Thread Costin Enache
?     From: Kirk Wolf To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Password Phrase Encryption Algo? Sorry if I'm being pedantic, but SHA-1 is not an encryption algorithm - it is a cryptographic hash function. http://en.wikipedia.org

Re: Password Phrase Encryption Algo?

2012-03-19 Thread Kirk Wolf
Sorry if I'm being pedantic, but SHA-1 is not an encryption algorithm - it is a cryptographic hash function. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryptographic_hash_function On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Costin Enache wrote: > Hi, > > Does anybody have a clue how the > PASSPHRAS

Password Phrase Encryption Algo?

2012-03-19 Thread Costin Enache
Hi, Does anybody have a clue how the PASSPHRASE is encrypted in RACF? It looks very much like SHA (SHA-1 I hope), it depends on both the username and password, but how is it build? Yes, I have asked in the RACF list already :) Br, Costin -

Re: TLS, AT-TLS, Encryption Requirements

2012-02-10 Thread Timothy Sipples
Hal Merritt writes: >IMHO, the biggest single challenge is certificate management. Certificates >have a pretty steep learning curve. As with any encryption solution, the >actual encryption is trivial but the key (certificate) management is a killer. It's exactly the same conceptual

Re: TLS, AT-TLS, Encryption Requirements

2012-02-09 Thread Hal Merritt
g SSL/TLS support in a client is often an extra cost option. You should be able to poke around PROCOMM settings and see if you see the configuration options. IMHO, the biggest single challenge is certificate management. Certificates have a pretty steep learning curve. As with any encryption sol

Re: TLS, AT-TLS, Encryption Requirements

2012-02-09 Thread Henke, George
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Schramm Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2012 12:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: TLS, AT-TLS, Encryption Requirements George, You should at least get the

Re: TLS, AT-TLS, Encryption Requirements

2012-02-07 Thread Rob Schramm
George, You should at least get the freebie encryption turned on for the box. The lack of the SERVAUTH setup can have a deleterious effect if you have a UACC(NONE) at the wrong level and then specify TCPCONFIG TLS will stop all other services from starting up. You can use OBEY to change the

Re: TLS, AT-TLS, Encryption Requirements

2012-02-07 Thread Henke, George
, 2012 2:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: TLS, AT-TLS, Encryption Requirements Make sure you understand the SERVAUTH EZB.INITSTACK.** requirements for things like OMPROUTE and use DELAYSTART if you're autologging things. We're considering whether it is worth changing up pa

Re: TLS, AT-TLS, Encryption Requirements

2012-02-07 Thread Tom Ambros
have questions about certain requirements with IKE and NSS which hold up our rollout so production experience is not to be had here yet. I believe your emulator needs to be capable, my old Attachmate was not. Encryption will run anywhere, but it's like what they ask you if you want to pla

TLS, AT-TLS, Encryption Requirements

2012-02-07 Thread Henke, George
Has anyone done this? Besides coding TTLS in the TCPCONFIG statement in the TCPIP PROFILE does anything else, like enabling encryption cards, need to be done? Also, is TLS downward compatible with older TN3270 emulators, like PROCOMM

Re: two-way encryption format for password encryption in IBM Tivoli Directory Servers (ldap) - TIM TAM

2012-01-20 Thread Bruce Wheatley
Thanks Walt. 1) - We're concerned with the TIM account passwords. 2) - ITDS servers run AIX 6.1. From: Walt Farrell To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 01/20/2012 09:10 AM Subject:Re: two-way encryption format for password encryption in IBM Tivoli Directory Servers

Re: two-way encryption format for password encryption in IBM Tivoli Directory Servers (ldap) - TIM TAM

2012-01-20 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:14:57 -0600, Bruce Wheatley wrote: >One of our middleware support staff has brought this possible exposure to our >attention: > >By using the two-way encryption format, a > super user in ITDS (e.g cn=ro

two-way encryption format for password encryption in IBM Tivoli Directory Servers (ldap) - TIM TAM

2012-01-18 Thread Bruce Wheatley
One of our middleware support staff has brought this possible exposure to our attention: By using the two-way encryption format, a super user in ITDS (e.g cn=root) can run the ldapsearch command or any other ldap client

RC4 encryption type supported on Kerberos z/OS ?

2011-12-20 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi RC4 encryption type supported on Kerberos z/OS ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TLS/SSL Encryption strength

2011-07-26 Thread Starr, Alan
REQUIRED CIPHERSUITE SSL__ * one statement per cipher-suite, in order of preference * CIPHERSUITE SSL__ * one statement per cipher-suite, in order of preference * 2) John already mentioned how to tell CICS that you wish to use encryption. 3) Telnet

Re: TLS/SSL Encryption strenght

2011-07-26 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hal Merritt > > My auditors want me to restrict the minimum encryption strength to 128 bits. I have pounded the FM's > but did not find anything that might help. I found where I could specify what

Re: TLS/SSL Encryption strenght

2011-07-26 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 14:30:10 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote: >My auditors want me to restrict the minimum encryption strength to 128 bits. I >have pounded the FM's but did not find anything that might help. I found where >I could specify what schemes to use, but nowhere could I find a

TLS/SSL Encryption strenght

2011-07-26 Thread Hal Merritt
My auditors want me to restrict the minimum encryption strength to 128 bits. I have pounded the FM's but did not find anything that might help. I found where I could specify what schemes to use, but nowhere could I find a complete list of supported/installed schemes that I could u

Re: zOS Media Manager and encryption - practical?

2011-04-25 Thread Ron Hawkins
n List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Tom Ambros > Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 6:25 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: [IBM-MAIN] zOS Media Manager and encryption - practical? > > Would it be practical to implement encryption at the Media Manager layer, >

zOS Media Manager and encryption - practical?

2011-04-25 Thread Tom Ambros
Would it be practical to implement encryption at the Media Manager layer, key label and access rule definitions maintained in the SMS dataclass, similar to the way it's done in the distributed environment by the IBM Encryption Expert product. Basically, that product installs a shim i

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread Kirk Wolf
> Typically encryption defeats compression.  It seems that you can have one or > the other but not both. I haven't looked, but z/os FTP may compress before > encryption. (I think the compression occurs in the application layer and the > encryption occurs in the transport laye

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
Encrypted data is usually though to be non-compressible. If you want compression in addition to encryption you'd compress first and then encrypt the compressed data file. Mark Jacobs On 04/05/11 11:20, Hal Merritt wrote: Certificate based TLS FTP is native to the z/os platform.

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread Staller, Allan
Is z/OS Encryption Facility different from ICSF ? A link to the app prog guide here : http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/topic/com.ibm.zos.r10 .csfb400/toc.htm YES! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread Hal Merritt
Certificate based TLS FTP is native to the z/os platform. While certificates are very secure, they do carry a pretty good learning curve. Any z/os hardware features installed on the box are exploited by default, I think. Typically encryption defeats compression. It seems that you can have one

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread Tony Harminc
2011/4/5 R.S. : > I'm looking for some solution for file exchange between z/OS and > Windows/Linux platform. > > The only requirement is to encrypt the file (PS dataset) on z/OS side and > decrypt it on distributed side and vice versa. > > Nice to have: > - hash calculation > - compression > - expl

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread Nagesh S
Is z/OS Encryption Facility different from ICSF ? A link to the app prog guide here : http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/topic/com.ibm.zos.r10.csfb400/toc.htm N 2011/4/5 Kirk Wolf > Thanks for the kind plug John > > A few comments - > > - With IBM Ported Tools O

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread Kirk Wolf
free OpenSSH server available through cygwin. - With our new "OpenSSH Accelerator for z/OS, you can exploit CPACF on z/OS for SSH encryption. Also, with Co:Z Launcher you can disable encryption of data connections which is even faster/cheaper and a killer solution if the partner machines are

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread McKown, John
om: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:31 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Encryption, compression, etc. > > I'm looking for some solution for file exchange between z/OS and > Windows/Li

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread Jóhannes Magnússon
z/OS Encryption facility might be just the right thing for you. It is based on OpenPGP and can utilize the Crypto coprocessor. http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/encryption_facility/ Cheers, Johannes > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IB

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
S key that I'd be willing to share. The problem is going to be the key exchange with the target servers since if the shared encryption key gets compromised your data can be easily be decrypted. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL A schlemiel is a waiter who spills hot sou

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread Staller, Allan
z/OS Encryption Facility. Should be distributed with z/OS 1.9 and above. I believe this is ziip enabled/ FTPS or SFTP (can never remember which is which). Both should be available with z/OS ported tools AT-TLS feature of z/OS Comm Server. (I believe this is zip enabled) HTH, I'm lookin

Re: Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. > > I'm looking for some solution for file exchange between z/OS and > Windows/Linux platform. > > The only requirement is to encrypt the file (PS dataset) on z/OS side > and decrypt it on distributed side and vi

Encryption, compression, etc.

2011-04-05 Thread R.S.
I'm looking for some solution for file exchange between z/OS and Windows/Linux platform. The only requirement is to encrypt the file (PS dataset) on z/OS side and decrypt it on distributed side and vice versa. Nice to have: - hash calculation - compression - exploitation of CPACF or CryptoExp

Re: TS3500 and encryption

2010-12-01 Thread Revard, Thomas (T)
Is this Windows or z/OS data that you are encrypting? We use library managed encryption for our Windows data and system managed encryption for our native and VTS data. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Saraco Sent

Re: TS3500 and encryption

2010-12-01 Thread Michael Saraco
I would appreciate any notes. From: Lizette Koehler To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 12/01/2010 09:37 AM Subject:Re: TS3500 and encryption Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List > I have a TS3500 that is to be setup as in library-managed and not >

Re: TS3500 and encryption

2010-12-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
> I have a TS3500 that is to be setup as in library-managed and not > system- > managed for encryption. In the process I came across this statement in > the > EKM manual for setting up the encryption. > > Configure 3592 E05, E06, or EU6 tape drives for Encryption. > a.

TS3500 and encryption

2010-12-01 Thread Michael Saraco
I have a TS3500 that is to be setup as in library-managed and not system- managed for encryption. In the process I came across this statement in the EKM manual for setting up the encryption. Configure 3592 E05, E06, or EU6 tape drives for Encryption. a. If 3592 E05, E06, or EU6 tape drives are

Re: TCPIP SSL Encryption Strength

2010-10-13 Thread zMan
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > Isn't 112 bits the key space of Triple DES with keying option 2? Yes...but Radoslaw's question was, "Why is 112 bits bad?" -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" ---

Re: TCPIP SSL Encryption Strength

2010-10-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:40:42 +0200, R.S. wrote: >W dniu 2010-10-12 23:17, Thomas Kern pisze: >> Not just use the strongest, but you have to go out of your way to reject >> using the "low" and "medium" strength ciphers. My cyber security people >> complain about anything that is 112 bits or less. >

Re: TCPIP SSL Encryption Strength

2010-10-13 Thread R.S.
I strongly doubt if they offer remote banking solutions via TN3270 :-))) (please read carefully: SSL for TN3270) Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2010-10-13 18:04, Ward, Mike S pisze: If this is for a remote banking or financial application for your customers, what encryption

Re: TCPIP SSL Encryption Strength

2010-10-13 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-10-12 23:17, Thomas Kern pisze: Not just use the strongest, but you have to go out of your way to reject using the "low" and "medium" strength ciphers. My cyber security people complain about anything that is 112 bits or less. It's not so far from the strongest. BTW, rhetorical: Did

Re: TCPIP SSL Encryption Strength

2010-10-13 Thread Ward, Mike S
If this is for a remote banking or financial application for your customers, what encryption do they support? You may use a high end encryption but your customers may not be able to support it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf

Re: TCPIP SSL Encryption Strength

2010-10-12 Thread Thomas Kern
s? > >IMHO there are no such recommendations. What vendor? > >The only advice could be: USE THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE CIPHER YOU ARE ABLE >TO. >Reason: the stronger the safer. Grumbling auditors will always point you >in the following manner: "You are using 128-bit encryption, wh

Re: TCPIP SSL Encryption Strength

2010-10-12 Thread R.S.
ere are no such recommendations. What vendor? The only advice could be: USE THE STRONGEST POSSIBLE CIPHER YOU ARE ABLE TO. Reason: the stronger the safer. Grumbling auditors will always point you in the following manner: "You are using 128-bit encryption, while there's 256-bit one av

TCPIP SSL Encryption Strength

2010-10-12 Thread Hal Merritt
We are using SSL for TN3270 and we are being asked to: "Follow vendor recommendations for disabling medium strength ciphers and enforce on ciphters (sic) of 128 bit or greater." Can anyone point me to these recommendations? Thanks!! NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitt

Re: Triple DES encryption

2010-09-22 Thread R.S.
Tom Rusnak pisze: Is anyone aware of any callable services on z/os for Triple DES encryption without having any cryptographic hardware installed? I've tried the CSNBENC routine of ICSF, however, it returns with RC=12 indicating that it doesn't have the necessary hardware. Thank

Re: Triple DES encryption

2010-09-21 Thread Greg Boyd
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On >> Behalf Of Tom Rusnak >> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:59 PM >> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >> Subject: Triple DES encryption >> >> Is anyone aware of any callable services on z/os for Triple DES encryption >> without having any

Triple DES encryption

2010-09-21 Thread Phil Smith
Tom Rusnak wrote: > Is anyone aware of any callable services on z/os for Triple DES encryption > without having any cryptographic hardware installed? > I've tried the CSNBENC routine of ICSF, however, it returns with RC=12 > indicating that it doesn't have the necessary ha

Re: Triple DES encryption

2010-09-21 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Tom Rusnak > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2010 6:59 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Triple DES encryption > > Is anyone aware of any callable service

Triple DES encryption

2010-09-21 Thread Tom Rusnak
Is anyone aware of any callable services on z/os for Triple DES encryption without having any cryptographic hardware installed? I've tried the CSNBENC routine of ICSF, however, it returns with RC=12 indicating that it doesn't have the necessary hardware. Thanks from the bottom s

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-09-01 Thread Rob Schramm
The new protected key will perform a whole lot better than the previous secure key. But I think you'll find the outboard is still faster and is less impact in general. It is just a "tad" (I think it is 1%.. anyone?) slower in performance for the tape encryption on the IBM t

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-31 Thread Greg Boyd
Version 1.1 of the Encryption Facility uses the crypto coprocessor (secure key) to encrypt the data if you specify ENCTDES in the input parms. It also uses the crypto coprocessor to encrypt the data key if you specify the RSA parm (along with the key label for a public/privae key pair). The

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-31 Thread R.S.
Phil Smith pisze: Staller, Allan wrote: Any Crypto Assist processors present? Makes a big difference! I'm sure Allan knows this, but I wanted to elaborate: be careful. There are two crypto assist processors available on System z: the Crypto Express (aka "CEX", pronounced, well, with a soft "C

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-31 Thread R.S.
, it could make huge difference in software bills. BTW: I would SERIOUSLY re-think if I really need encrypted tapes. If the answer is still YES, then I would use H/W encryption built-in tape drives. My $0.02 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 War

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread Russell Witt
One item is that CA Tape Encryption also has zIIP exploitation. With encryption done at the software level (either DFDSS or CA Tape Encryption) there is also the concern of compression. Encrypted data sent down to the device will not compress well with IDRC. If the encryption is done in the device

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread Phil Smith
Staller, Allan wrote: >I agree. However, the OP was reporting multiples of the un-encrypted data. >I can readily believe this for software encryption functions. >Of course the whole point of the crypto co-processors was to offload Z-cycles. >From the z-cycles viewpoint outboard encr

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread Grinsell, Don
>That's what we need: Z-cycles. The biggest, baddest motorcycles on the >planet!!! >-- With a bolt on z-BXCar that can hold up to 112 additional riders! Sorry ... couldn't resist. Happy Monday! Don Grinsell State of Montana -

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread Staller, Allan
I agree. However, the OP was reporting multiples of the un-encrypted data. I can readily believe this for software encryption functions. Of course the whole point of the crypto co-processors was to offload Z-cycles. >From the z-cycles viewpoint outboard encryption is by far the cheapest. I

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread Staller, Allan
Any Crypto Assist processors present? Makes a big difference! Yes. We used DFDSS both with the software encryption on and off. The performance with the encryption turned on was unacceptable and we ended our testing shortly after we tried the product. By unacceptable I mean that the resource

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread Jousma, David
Same here. We opted for the 3592 encrypting drives, using EKM to serve up the encryption keys, and have not looked back. In addition, it may be new news to some, that while the current replacement of EKM is the new TKLM, and requires DB2 backend to store data, there will be a new "

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
bject: Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption? Any Crypto Assist processors present? Makes a big difference! Yes. We used DFDSS both with the software encryption on and off. The performance with the encryption turned on was unacceptable and we ended our testing shortly after we tried the product. By unaccepta

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
used them. The latest 1.2 level might but I don't know from my own experience. Mark Jacobs From: Staller, Allan [allan.stal...@kbm1.com] Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 3:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption? Any Crypto Assis

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread Phil Smith
-cost feature (feature code 3863). (Note that with Protected Key on z10/zEnterprise and latest ICSF, you get (most of) the best of both worlds, but I don't believe this is relevant to the topic at hand.) So you want to make sure CPACF is enabled (visible in the HMC) and that your encryption pro

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread Scott Rowe
David, Adding software encryption to any process will add significant CPU time. Encryption is a CPU intensive process. Some software will be faster than others, but it will always add significant CPU time. >>> "O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]" 8/30/2010 3:22 PM

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 08/30/10 15:22, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: Mark, Had you been using DFDSS before and IBM EF added to your response times? That would be a concern. Thank You, Dave O'Brien NIH Contractor Yes. We used DFDSS both with the software encryption on and off. The p

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
a.edu Subject: Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption? On 08/30/10 15:04, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: > Management has asked for feedback from the this group. > > We are considering hardware encryption using STK 9840D drives vs Software > encryption using most probably IBM Encrypti

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
bject: Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption? On 08/30/10 15:04, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: > Management has asked for feedback from the this group. > > We are considering hardware encryption using STK 9840D drives vs Software > encryption using most probably IBM Encryption Facil

Re: H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
On 08/30/10 15:04, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] wrote: Management has asked for feedback from the this group. We are considering hardware encryption using STK 9840D drives vs Software encryption using most probably IBM Encryption Facility or CA Tape Encrypt. Can anyone with exper

H/w vs S/W Encryption?

2010-08-30 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Management has asked for feedback from the this group. We are considering hardware encryption using STK 9840D drives vs Software encryption using most probably IBM Encryption Facility or CA Tape Encrypt. Can anyone with experience using any of the above products comment on that experience

Re: IBM Data Encryption Facility?

2010-08-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-08-12 21:30, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] pisze: Is anyone using the IBM Data Encryption Facility? Obviously yes. Does it support encryption of FDR volume dumps or did you also need to obtain the FDR Encryption offering? AFAIK no. There is an option (paid feature) fo

Re: IBM Data Encryption Facility?

2010-08-12 Thread Staller, Allan
Several releases ago (circa z/OS 1.7) IBM offered DF/DSS "direct" encryption (in turn used by DFHSM). Works great for HSM dumps. NO FUNCTIONALITY is available for DFHSM backups. Check the fine manual for details. The potential drawback is using software for the encryption, drives up t

IBM Data Encryption Facility?

2010-08-12 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Is anyone using the IBM Data Encryption Facility? Does it support encryption of FDR volume dumps or did you also need to obtain the FDR Encryption offering? Anyone using the hardware encryption offered by Oracle/Sun/STK? If I can avail myself of your research/experience in this matter it would

Re: Encryption Software products

2010-08-07 Thread Russell Witt
Another option would be the CA Tape Encryption product. Your email address indicates CSC in Australia; which indicates you might already have a license for the product and not even know it. Russell Witt CA 1 L2 Support Manager -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Encryption Software products

2010-07-29 Thread Hal Merritt
We don't seem to have much to go on when evaluating the cost/benefit/scalability of hardware vs software based solutions. All I was able to find was this quote: "While low-volume traffic could be protected with software-based encryption, the demand for fast hardware-accelerated encry

Re: Encryption Software products

2010-07-29 Thread Phil Smith
Hal Merritt wrote: >>>> Actually, you might find that the crypto card is a less expensive option. I am told that software encryption/decryption is very costly in terms of CPU which is why IBM offered the 'specialty engine' (crypto card). Not sure where so many get

Re: Encryption Software products

2010-07-29 Thread Greg Boyd
actor into your cost estimates. Hope that helps. Greg On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:11:58 +1100, Meganen Naidoo wrote: >Hi everyone, >One of our smaller clients, running on a Z9-BC, encryption requirements is >for encryption of data at rest, encryption of tape data, support the >OpenP

Re: Encryption Software products

2010-07-29 Thread Robert Steiskal
Hal and RS, I thought you might be interested to know that many of our customers use the software based encryption and compression capabilities of SecureZIP to significantly reduce the size of their encrypted files in storage. In order to achieve this benefit, there is a need for the file to

Re: Encryption Software products

2010-07-29 Thread R.S.
Hal Merritt pisze: Actually, you might find that the crypto card is a less expensive option. I am told that software encryption/decryption is very costly in terms of CPU which is why IBM offered the 'specialty engine' (crypto card). That's absolutely untrue! Crypto cards are

Re: Encryption Software products

2010-07-29 Thread Hal Merritt
Actually, you might find that the crypto card is a less expensive option. I am told that software encryption/decryption is very costly in terms of CPU which is why IBM offered the 'specialty engine' (crypto card). Not sure where so many get the bizarre idea that encryption is chea

Re: Encryption Software products

2010-07-29 Thread R.S.
Meganen Naidoo pisze: Hi everyone, One of our smaller clients, running on a Z9-BC, encryption requirements is for encryption of data at rest, encryption of tape data, support the OpenPGP format and usage of digital certificates. IBM's Encryption Facility for z/OS V1.2 has all of the req

Encryption Software products

2010-07-28 Thread Meganen Naidoo
Hi everyone, One of our smaller clients, running on a Z9-BC, encryption requirements is for encryption of data at rest, encryption of tape data, support the OpenPGP format and usage of digital certificates. IBM's Encryption Facility for z/OS V1.2 has all of the required functionality

Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption?

2010-06-16 Thread Richard Peurifoy
On 6/16/2010 4:37 PM, Lucy Arnold wrote: TKLM is not free. The zbox folks were just told that is what we're using. We didn't get a vote. Thanks, that confirms what I thought. -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption?

2010-06-16 Thread Lucy Arnold
TKLM is not free. The zbox folks were just told that is what we're using. We didn't get a vote. Lucy Arnold Storage Manager U.C. Davis Medical Center 916-734-5498 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructi

Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption?

2010-06-16 Thread Lucy Arnold
We are running IN-Band - No DB2 on the Zbox is being used. Lucy Arnold Storage Manager U.C. Davis Medical Center 916-734-5498 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu

Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption?

2010-06-16 Thread Ken Porowski
4:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption? Just out of curiosity, are there any other solutions out there? We are looking at EKM soultion but are not really happy with it or TKLM. -Original Message- From: IBM Main

Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption?

2010-06-16 Thread Richard Peurifoy
On 6/16/2010 1:37 PM, Mark Jacobs wrote: Even though IBM says that Tivoli Key Lifecycle Manager (TKLM) is IBM’s strategic new platform for storage and delivery of encryption keys to encrypting storage end-point devices. EKM is still available and will work. Trust me though, its a PITA to get

Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption?

2010-06-16 Thread Hal Merritt
We heard that TKLM uses DB2. Is that true? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lucy Arnold Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption

Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption?

2010-06-16 Thread Lucy Arnold
CA has it's own tape encryption software. I believe it does other than CA products. Lucy Arnold Storage Manager U.C. Davis Medical Center 916-734-5498 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption?

2010-06-16 Thread Lucy Arnold
All, We are using TKLM and so far it is a PITA to get working too. We are having issues with the OMVS RACF definition at the moment. Lucy Arnold Storage Manager U.C. Davis Medical Center 916-734-5498 -- For IBM-MAIN subscrib

Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption?

2010-06-16 Thread Hal Merritt
2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption? Lucy, If you go the way of ekm and run into questions, I think I have most of the answers. I implemented EKM at my shop and am well versed in its usage. It is basic but it works well. Lizette

Re: Is anybody using TKLM, TS-1120 drives for encryption?

2010-06-16 Thread Lizette Koehler
3592) drives and TKLM - are these the only pieces we need >> to start encryption? Do we need an EKM STC ? If we do, where the heck >> do you get it from? The IBM Encryption Key Manager component for Java >> says EKM should no longer be downloaded fro new tape encryption &g

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