In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/08/2007
at 12:39 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
BTW: I was NetWare admin in 1995, AFAIK there was no z/OS, no even
OS/390, but MVS 5 in those days.
There was no MVS 5; There were various versions of MVS/SP, with an
eventual name change to MVS/ESA but retaining
On 7 May 2007 01:01:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
They can't understand when I say my last system outage was in 2003...
[...]
Unfortunately, the PFCSK's, with their squatty boxes, brag about how fast
they can re-boot!
We brag about how long the system
Anthony Saul Babonas wrote:
Please colleagues, allow my to clarify by stating :
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1. I do not believe other platforms are favoriteexpletive.
2. I am not arrogant and certainly not blind.
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Ted MacNEIL wrote:
They can't understand when I say my last system outage was in 2003...
[...]
Unfortunately, the PFCSK's, with their squatty boxes, brag about how fast they
can re-boot!
We brag about how long the system stays up!
In fact, I can't remember any PFCSK bragging how fast they
On Mon, 7 May 2007 10:00:44 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Windows nowadays doesn't need to be rebooted so frequently and - last but
not least - it is not the only PC-server system.
So, I think we're laughing at our idea of PC-world, not reality.
It's not good to underestimate the
Anthony Saul Babonas wrote:
[...]
About 10 years ago I took a couple of classes in Novell and deduced that
anyone with zOS sysprog background could
become a guru in 2-3 days.
You were wrong. Deeply wrong.
However I can feel some affinity between MVS and NetWare.
--
Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz,
Actually I think 3-4 days is more like it.
Anthony Saul Babonas wrote:
[...]
About 10 years ago I took a couple of classes in Novell and deduced that
anyone with zOS sysprog background could
become a guru in 2-3 days.
You were wrong. Deeply wrong.
However I can feel some affinity between
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 05/03/2007
at 12:12 PM, Anthony Saul Babonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
About 10 years ago I took a couple of classes in Novell and deduced
that anyone with zOS sysprog background could become a guru in
2-3 days.
FSVO guru. I pick up new software rather quickly, but I
I'm curious. How difficult would it be a a zOS sysprog to become proficient
in a like type position on
a Windows or UNIX based system? I have heard these jobs being referred to
as Network Administrators and I've
always taken that to mean sysprog in newspeak.
About 10 years ago I took a couple
I'm curious. How difficult would it be a a zOS sysprog to become
proficient in a like type position on
a Windows or UNIX based system? I have heard these jobs being
referred to
as Network Administrators and I've always taken that to mean sysprog
in newspeak.
About 10 years ago I took a
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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: How difficult would it be for a SYSPROG ? (was RE:
Mainframe Data Center Permanant Shutdown Procedure Needed)
I'm curious. How difficult would it be a a zOS sysprog to become
proficient in a like type position on a Windows or UNIX based system?
I have
On 3 May 2007 12:12:44 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Levy) wrote:
I went through this exact route. I was a sysprog for a number of years
than transitioned over to software development on the mainframe. I moved
over to development on OS/2 and than windows. The tools and debuggers
made it quite a
I see things like customization overwritten by service (IE no equivalent of
PARMLIB concat). JCL will look easy after the various parms for the system
services. Some Unix systems are still archaic without add-on products.
Solaris 8 can only have 8 slices (sic) per hard disk but some are
They can't understand when I say my last system outage was in 2003...
There was an old DILBERT strip:
DOGBERT'S Technical Support:
DOGBERT answers the phone:
My PC is...
Shut up and re-boot
Hey! That worked!
Shut up and hang up!
..My call time is improving.
Unfortunately, the PFCSK's, with
snip-
I see things like customization overwritten by service (IE no equivalent of
PARMLIB concat). JCL will look easy after the various parms for the system
services. Some Unix systems are still archaic without add-on products.
Solaris 8 can only
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