Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-11-06 Thread Steve R Wolf
Hello list, I had the following question in July of this year. I just want add to the archive the resolution of this problem. Snip from July 2008 Our system is a 2096 U03 with three LPARs but no sysplex. Two LPARs are production, one at z/OS 1.4 and a small one at z/OS 1.7. The current IODF

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:06:23 +0200, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Obviously* you don't work here :-) Here I am fast with system dump cleanup to keep the DASD pool empty. If anyone wants a dump longer than it takes me to take a look at it, they should rename it to a 'keep' qualifier. I

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-20 Thread Barbara Nitz
.. I just can't resist... The data collection for IPLDATA STATUS was just a little thing I hacked together in OS/390 1.3 to help me find a starting point of where to look when I got asked to help diagnose why did that IPL take so long? problems. Another Jim-Mulder-Special :-) It seems to me

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-18 Thread Skip Robinson
] Subject .EDU Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang 07/17/2008 10:45

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:45:58 -0400, Jim Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The data collection for IPLDATA STATUS was just a little thing I hacked together in OS/390 1.3 to help me find a starting point of where to look when I got asked to help diagnose why did that IPL take so long?

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-18 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 15:01 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: None of our MVS system programmers knew about this command. We don't know when our intermittant IPL problem will strike again, but you can bet this command will be issued afterwrds. There are lots of things to see in a dump - I

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-17 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Mulder IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/16/2008 04:35:28 PM: Pat, in your situation try running the IPCS VERBEXIT BLSAIPST. The documented way of invoking that function is

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-17 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/17/2008 09:00:16 AM: A colleague asks, When are the 'official' start and end times (events) that comprise 'IPL'? From the IPLDATA STATUS output it appears that 'official start' occurs after the IPLTEXT has been loaded and

IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-16 Thread Stephen Wolf
Hello List, Are system is a 2096 U03 with three LPARs but no sysplex. Two LPARs are production, one at z/OS 1.4 and a small one at z/OS 1.7. The current IODF is a version 5 level. This weekend I activated a new IODF on the 1.4 system using the HCD dialogs which completed successfully. I did

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:33:44 -0500, Stephen Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... This weekend I activated a new IODF on the 1.4 system using the HCD dialogs which completed successfully. I did not do an activate on the 1.7 We then IPLed the 1.4 system and it just waited. The NIP console was not

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:33:44 -0500, Stephen Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Are system is a 2096 U03 with three LPARs but no sysplex. Two LPARs are production, one at z/OS 1.4 and a small one at z/OS 1.7. The current IODF is a version 5 level. This weekend I activated a new IODF on

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-16 Thread Field, Alan C.
Pat, in your situation try running the IPCS VERBEXIT BLSAIPST. It shows the various phases of NIP and the timing. Maybe you can pinpoint where the delay has occurred. I've seen long delays when there are problems when the DASD goes into some sort of error recovery and retries each device for

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-16 Thread Skip Robinson
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Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-16 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 07/16/2008 04:35:28 PM: Pat, in your situation try running the IPCS VERBEXIT BLSAIPST. It shows the various phases of NIP and the timing. Maybe you can pinpoint where the delay has occurred. The documented way of invoking that

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-16 Thread Hal Merritt
:-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Wolf Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IODF change causes next IPL to hang Hello List, Are system is a 2096 U03 with three LPARs but no sysplex

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:24:56 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:33:44 -0500, Stephen Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, Are system is a 2096 U03 with three LPARs but no sysplex. Two LPARs are production, one at z/OS 1.4 and a small one at z/OS 1.7. The

Re: IODF change causes next IPL to hang

2008-07-16 Thread Brian Peterson
This is a very cool technique for debugging mysterious IPL slowdowns. You don't even need a dump - if you run this IPCS command on a running system, the IPLDATA STATUS command will tell you how long each module in the IPL process took to perform its function when that system was IPLed - even