Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
zMan wrote: In ISMF I can generate a list of datasets, but would very much like to capture that so I can analyze it. If I do a SAVE SOMENAME, I get an E37 ABEND. 1) What dataset is it trying to write? To your profile dataset: userid.ISPF.ISPPROF(SOMENAME) You may need to enlarge that

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-23 Thread Ron Hawkins
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND So maybe I need to go back a step and ask what's the best way to do this (given

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-23 Thread Mike Wood
Rather than focus on your problems using SAVE etc., like others, I thought I might point you in a different direction. You could use DCOLLECT to get a list of all your data sets. DCOLLECT records includes all kinds of info that can be collected, and that data can be processed/reported/analyzed.

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-23 Thread Spencer, Mike
, then this is how it works. Happy hunting. Mike Spencer BMC Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 5:37 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND I'm working

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-23 Thread Scott McLeod
Another DCOLLECT (not ISMF) option would be to use DFSORT and/or ICETOOL to pick through DCOLLECT data and build reports. There's a nice set of starter samples on the DFSORT publications page. Start with http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort Select the Publications link Under Papers and Examples,

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-23 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2010 7:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND snip In option 3.4 you can put ** on the dataset name pattern and let ISPF pull up ALL datasets in your shop. Depending on how many, this may take a little

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-23 Thread Neil Duffee
[mailto:zed...@gma...com] Sent: September 22, 2010 17:37 Subject: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND [snip] In ISMF I can generate a list of datasets, [snip] If I do a SAVE SOMENAME, I get an E37 ABEND. Two questions: 1) What dataset is it trying to write? 2) How can I tell it what volser to use

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-23 Thread Mike Schwab
I do an DCOLLECT on the volumes then an easytrieve report by storage groups and similarly name non-sms volumes. On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Neil Duffee nduf...@uottawa.ca wrote: OK, a third question: Is this even worthwhile? In batch, perhaps? z/OS v1.11 DFSMSdfp Storage Administration

ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread zMan
I'm working with stone knives and bearskins trying to clean up some space. In ISMF I can generate a list of datasets, but would very much like to capture that so I can analyze it. If I do a SAVE SOMENAME, I get an E37 ABEND. Two questions: 1) What dataset is it trying to write? 2) How can I tell

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread Mike Schwab
After viewing the list under TSO ISPF 3.4, go out to the 3.4 screen and type P to Print, and press enter. Continue to press PF3 until you are exiting ISPF, the second dataset will contain your listing, modify disposition as needed. You probably want Option 4 Keep dataset and allocate new

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread zMan
What is the dataset name? I can't view it under 3.4 until I find it... On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: After viewing the list under TSO ISPF 3.4, go out to the 3.4 screen and type P to Print, and press enter.  Continue to press PF3 until you are

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread Mike Schwab
On my system, userid.sys.SPF3.LIST but cusomizable by the installation. It is allocated until you exist ISPF and your DSN will be shown when leaving the ISPF main menu. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 5:16 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: What is the dataset name? I can't view it under 3.4 until

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread zMan
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On my system, userid.sys.SPF3.LIST but cusomizable by the installation. It is allocated until you exist ISPF and your DSN will be shown when leaving the ISPF main menu. That's where stuff prints to, but that isn't

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
I'm working with stone knives and bearskins trying to clean up some space. In ISMF I can generate a list of datasets, but would very much like to capture that so I can analyze it. If I do a SAVE SOMENAME, I get an E37 ABEND. Two questions: 1) What dataset is it trying to write? 2) How

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread zMan
Don't think we're talking about the same thing -- there is no Option 1: the SAVE command is typed on the command line in ISMF, per the (almost useless0 HELP. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: I'm working with stone knives and bearskins trying to

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Okay, the process using Opt 3.4 not ISMF Bring up your list in Option 3.4. On the command line enter SAVE - This goes to an ISPF List dataset. You can change the attributes by going to the Settings panel and on the menu bar, select LOG/LIST. Set the space amount there. Next after the SAVE

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread zMan
I can't FIND the list: I can't SAVE the list. ISMF generates it, then when I try to save it it gets the E37. What am I missing?? On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: Okay, the process using Opt 3.4 not ISMF Bring up your list in Option 3.4. On the

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
On my system, userid.sys.SPF3.LIST but cusomizable by the installation. If that's the case, you can always go to ISPF options and change the allocations size. Make it large enough to not fail. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota!

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
I can't FIND the list: I can't SAVE the list. ISMF generates it, then when I try to save it it gets the E37. What am I missing?? If you get an ABEND then look in SYSLOG and will (or should) have your E37 in the text and that will tell you the dataset you got the abend on. Look for your

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
There is some confusion on my part because the OP keeps going between Opt 3.4 and ISMF. So let me try to summarize both functions Both have a SAVE function. OPT 3.4 The SAVE command writes the data set list to either the ISPF list data set or another sequential data set. If the

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread zMan
Thanks, I'll read this again tomorrow. I actually never mentioned 3.4 -- someone else did. I was just talking about ISMF. On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: There is some confusion on my part because the OP keeps going between Opt 3.4 and ISMF.  So

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks, I'll read this again tomorrow. I actually never mentioned 3.4 -- someone else did. I was just talking about ISMF. I knew your original post said ISMF, but I wanted to clarify the differences between SAVE in ISPF and ISMF. Because they are HUGE. This is all dependent of what kind

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread zMan
So maybe I need to go back a step and ask what's the best way to do this (given that CBT tape contributions aren't an option): I have a small system with a few userids and a bunch of cruft that's built up. I need to look at what's out there, find the big datasets that we don't need, and whack

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
So maybe I need to go back a step and ask what's the best way to do this (given that CBT tape contributions aren't an option): I have a small system with a few userids and a bunch of cruft that's built up. I need to look at what's out there, find the big datasets that we don't need, and

Re: ISMF SAVE and E37 ABEND

2010-09-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
pressing PF7 (DOWN). Picking a nit: F7 is UP; F8 is DOWN. (Unless you've customised) - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email