Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-25 Thread Staller, Allan
Leopard and Vista: Last Gasp of the Big OS? http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/133276 from above: Twenty years from now a new generation of computer users will look back on the operating systems of today with the same bemused smile we look back at the cars of the late 1950s and early 60s. They had

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-25 Thread Jon Brock
. . . and for those of you who -- like me -- were made curious by Shane's remark, here is the minix3 URL: http://www.minix3.org/ >From the site: What hardware do I need to run MINIX 3? You need an Intel 386 or higher with 4 MB of RAM, an IDE hard disk with100 MB of free disk space, and an IDE

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-23 Thread Shane
On Sat, 2007-06-23 at 18:49 -0600, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > Twenty years from now a new generation of computer users will look back > on the operating systems of today with the same bemused smile we look > back at the cars of the late 1950s and early 60s. Why wait ???. Last week I meandered i

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-23 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
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Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mason) writes: > ... and thereby put the wait light out[1]. Having been brought up with > DOS (the original DOS), and, generally, S/360 Model 30s, I was used to >

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-22 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/22/2007 11:13:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >... and thereby put the wait light out[1]. Having been brought up with DOS (the original DOS), and, generally, S/360 Model 30s, I was used to knowing how busy the machine was by observing the flic

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-22 Thread Chris Mason
, which historical S/360+ range removed the indicator? - Original Message - From: "(IBM Mainframe Discussion List)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: Re: Operating systems are old and busted In a mes

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-22 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Operating systems are old and busted On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:56:04 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> Plai

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-22 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:56:04 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> Plainfield, IL > > ... IEFBR15 was based on the assumption that register 15 actually >points to the BCR 15,15 instruction. Unless you PTF'ed the program to >remove this dependancy by prefixing it with a BASR 15,0 instruction. Just like I

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-22 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe > Discussion List) > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 9:50 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Operating systems are old and busted > &g

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-22 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/21/2007 8:14:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >So the operators used to put DEBE in and let it crank the meter while they played hearts, but management was happy that they used 4-5 hours of machine time. I wouldn't do it and got called on the

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-21 Thread Bill Wilkie
h the good ol days! Bill From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Operating systems are old and busted Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:55:59 -0600 The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-21 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
ed this OS and I started salivating at the prospect of working on that > > project. The next thing I knew the project had been killed. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#64 Operating systems are old and busted http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#66 Off Topic But Concep

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-21 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#64 Operating systems are old and busted http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#66 Off Topic But Concept should be Known

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 21 Jun 2007 08:53:53 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Speaking of old, busted systems and ones that were killed (like FS), does >anybody know anything about the new operating system that Amdahl was trying >to >build? I had a phone interview with an Amdahl person in SEP 1987 who

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/21/2007 11:29:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I think you are referring to ASPEN? It was killed. That's the one. I didn't remember its name until your post. The only detail I heard was that Tom Simpson, the ex-IBMer who was the original mai

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-21 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:52 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Operating systems are old and busted Speaking of old, busted systems and ones that

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-21 Thread Craddock, Chris
> Speaking of old, busted systems and ones that were killed (like FS), does > anybody know anything about the new operating system that Amdahl was > trying to build? A number of people who contribute here worked on it. Maybe they will chime in. CC ---

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-21 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/21/2007 10:40:26 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The use of the 2702 "prepare" command for terminal I/O would effectively suspend "I/O" and the system "meter" would stop. This is fascinating history, Lynn. I remember using the Prepare command

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-21 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to alt.folklore.computers,bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#64 Operating systems are old and busted http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#66 Off Topic But Concept should be Known