In aanlktikvd7zaagjjkjrjcff70nds7wtdmm_=a5ggh...@mail.gmail.com, on
11/26/2010
at 02:17 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
As I said, IBM is inconsistent with its terminology. The TSO/E REXX
Users Guide, and the corresponding REXX Reference, define and use the
term Host Command
In 1290731429.1383.22.ca...@mckown5.johnmckown.net, on 11/25/2010
at 06:30 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net said:
Yes. I would like the Perl variant, but I would be satisfied with
POSIX compliant regexs. I think that the POSIX is more likely because
the IBM C compiler implements them. So the
In aanlktimge05znbnt-ipegryugahsypvw60uhck8w1...@mail.gmail.com, on
11/25/2010
at 08:13 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
A REXX environment is initialized by one of several means, and is
represented by a REXX environment block (macro IRXENVB). It has one
or more host command
On 26 November 2010 13:41, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In aanlktimge05znbnt-ipegryugahsypvw60uhck8w1...@mail.gmail.com, on
11/25/2010
at 08:13 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
A REXX environment is initialized by one of several means, and is
represented
In aanlktimk8gdnepidhrssqbdcwpj_xr4anvg-gmr1a...@mail.gmail.com, on
11/24/2010
at 01:15 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
I think you are confusing REXX environments with REXX Host Command
Environments.
Then what do you mean by HCE?
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In 20101124194915.3apsz.22626.r...@hrndva-web15-z02, on 11/24/2010
at 07:49 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com said:
And before the first ISPF, there was SPF - I think it stood for
Structured Programming Facility.
The progression went
In aanlkti=nz9ieq1tyizwkdyd2pagr6hzfnhpq-wz4w...@mail.gmail.com, on
11/24/2010
at 03:57 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said:
Just curious -- what does that mean? I don't know ISPF/PDF well
enough to understand.
4 This is a data shift
(4 This is a column shift
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In blu149-w47ab9a6c83f241ad1d5161a1...@phx.gbl, on 11/24/2010
at 04:26 PM, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com said:
some of the constructs of regular expressions.
Better than nothing, but I still want full bore pattern matching,
e.g.,
F R'(?!REG/b)[[:alpha]]{3}\d*'
to find a string containing
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 11:20 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In blu149-w47ab9a6c83f241ad1d5161a1...@phx.gbl, on 11/24/2010
at 04:26 PM, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com said:
some of the constructs of regular expressions.
Better than nothing, but I still want full bore pattern
On 25 November 2010 10:47, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In aanlktimk8gdnepidhrssqbdcwpj_xr4anvg-gmr1a...@mail.gmail.com, on
11/24/2010
at 01:15 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
I think you are confusing REXX environments with REXX Host Command
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
Better than nothing, but I still want full bore pattern matching,
e.g.,
F R'(?!REG/b)[[:alpha]]{3}\d*'
to find a string containing three letters and a string of digits,
where the three letters are
In aanlkti=2kwjmhcbttxmwkx4-tbsuhvhg0gtabu-8e...@mail.gmail.com, on
11/19/2010
at 03:39 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
An HCE such as the proposed FTP one might well want to add its own
routines to handle I/O or message processing, but those services are
unavailable if the REXX
In listserv%201011191553181273.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 11/19/2010
at 03:53 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
Is that much different from address ISREDIT END or address ISREDIT
CANCEL, which I've seen (mis-)used in edit macros.
Those only make sense if you don't try to use any other
In 1290208612.27170.70.ca...@mckown5.johnmckown.net, on 11/19/2010
at 05:16 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net said:
Don't I need XEDIT first?
Il va sans dire; that was my way of saying that I want XEDIT under
TSO, preferably under ISPF.
XEDIT beats the stuffing out of PDF edit as far as I'm
In 23326c108987498c818a941ac4a05...@ericnbpc, on 11/19/2010
at 09:00 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com said:
I've always liked ISPF edit much more than XEDIT. You said PDF edit
- I'm not sure if you mean something different than ISPF edit.
There was a time when IBM split SPF into
On 23 November 2010 15:48, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In aanlkti=2kwjmhcbttxmwkx4-tbsuhvhg0gtabu-8e...@mail.gmail.com, on
11/19/2010 at 03:39 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
An HCE such as the proposed FTP one might well want to add its own
routines to
And before the first ISPF, there was SPF - I think it stood for Structured
Programming Facility.
026? I remember an 029 and an 024(I think). But we were talking about editors
when I made the comment about you like what you first learned. Of course that
would depend on the editor. Some
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
XEDIT only has one kind of shift.
Just curious -- what does that mean? I don't know ISPF/PDF well enough
to understand.
--
zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it
On 11/24/2010 1:57 PM, zMan wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
XEDIT only has one kind of shift.
Just curious -- what does that mean? I don't know ISPF/PDF well enough
to understand.
ISPF Edit has data shift and column shift.
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Steve Comstock
st...@trainersfriend.com wrote:
ISPF Edit has data shift and column shift.
Data shift will not let you shift non-blank data
off the line; it also has a little awareness of
language specific comments etc.
Column shift does what you ask,
Although I would be mollified if PDF edit would enhance the FIND,
RFIND, CHANGE, and RCHANGE to include POSIX regular expressions.It's not
exactly what you want but SimpList has a command called FEX (Find EXpression)
that's totally free for anyone to use. It enhances ISPF picture strings by
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
I generally preferred XEDIT but I missed having two kinds of shift.
But I'm a tool-building guy and XEDIT had better facilities for
building edit macros than ISPF/PDF EDIT has.
there were several internally developed
In listserv%201011201119082596.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 11/20/2010
at 11:19 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:
The one thing that infuriates me about XEDIT
What you need to understand about editors is that a lot of the
evaluation criteria are matters of personal preference; what you
Same editor. Poor choice of words on my part. I still want POSIX regular
expressions. And my first IBM full screen editor was EDGAR on VM/370,
the precursor to XEDIT. Well, it was the second one actually. My first
was SPIN under CICS/VS on OS/VS1 - IIRC, SPIN was the CICS transaction
id. It's real
Editors are religion, this entire discussion might should belong in
alt.theology, but I have to admit I'm surprised that anyone likes SPF
EDIT over XEDIT, simply because there's very little in SPF EDIT that
you can't also do in XEDIT, and a lot more.
Perhaps the antipathy comes from years of
Our version of the emacs vs. vi wars. Hey, if you can't use TSO EDIT,
well ... grin. And I recently read about an author of books who has
abandoned word processors for the UNIX ed editor because it doesn't
get in the way of the creative flow of words.
Each to his own, having respect for others
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:53:40 -0500, zMan wrote:
Editors are religion, this entire discussion might should belong in
alt.theology, but I have to admit I'm surprised that anyone likes SPF
EDIT over XEDIT, simply because there's very little in SPF EDIT that
you can't also do in XEDIT, and a lot
This sounds similar to the use of 'address' in the Amiga version of Rexx.
It seemed to work well there.
Personally, I think address MVS ought to cover basic OS functions like catalog,
while 'hosts' should be able to be provided for other functions, e.g. address
CA7, address CICS, address
On 11/19/2010 7:29 AM, Robert Birdsall wrote:
It also would be nice if address initialized the host interface on first call,
so
SysCalls('ON'), etc. would not be necessary.
I think this would be a nice enhancement.
I believe the problem here is that there is no mapping from the host command
-
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Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 12:25 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: REXX address environments
On 11/19/2010 7:29 AM, Robert Birdsall wrote:
It also would be nice if address
On 19 November 2010 13:57, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
I know that I'm missing something, but that seems to be addressed here:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ikj4a370/14.14
[Statically adding Host Command Environments]
Yes, you can do this
In listserv%201011190929367313.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 11/19/2010
at 09:29 AM, Robert Birdsall bsqu...@umich.edu said:
Personally, I think address MVS ought to cover basic OS functions
like catalog,
Not if that name is already taken.
while 'hosts' should be able to be provided for other
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d5e05...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 11/18/2010
at 07:43 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
There are a number of environments for REXX which are accessed via
the ADDRESS command. Eg: ADDRESS TSO ; ADDRESS SDSF; ADDRESS
SYSCALL; ADDRESS
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:14:32 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
As a nonstandard extension to
Rexx, it would also be nice to terminate a host interface,
That wouldn't make a lot of sense, because it's the host that call
REXX in the first place. What would it mean to cancel, e.g., address
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 16:01 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d5e05...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom,
on 11/18/2010
at 07:43 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com said:
There are a number of environments for REXX which are accessed via
the
On 11/19/2010 10:57 AM, McKown, John wrote:
I know that I'm missing something, but that seems to be addressed here:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ikj4a370/14.14
Based on the following table entry, I'm not sure why rc=syscalls('ON') is
required:
SUBCOMT11_ENTRY
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:17:00 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote:
Based on the following table entry, I'm not sure why rc=syscalls('ON') is
required:
SUBCOMT11_ENTRY EQU */* Set up 11th SUBCOMTB entry
@P1A*/
SUBCOMT11_NAME
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:17:00 -0800, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
On 11/19/2010 10:57 AM, McKown, John wrote:
I know that I'm missing something, but that seems to be addressed here:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ikj4a370/14.14
Based on the
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:41:49 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:
Based on a quick test of SLEEP from TSO without rc=syscalls('ON'), it looks
like it isn't required. Maybe since z/OS 1.8.
I assume you mean sleep 0. Fortunately that doesn't mean
sleep forever, as some languages quirkily treat null
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:52:18 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:41:49 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:
Based on a quick test of SLEEP from TSO without rc=syscalls('ON'), it looks
like it isn't required. Maybe since z/OS 1.8.
I assume you mean sleep 0.
On 11/19/2010 3:41 PM, Mark Zelden wrote:
Based on a quick test of SLEEP from TSO without rc=syscalls('ON'), it looks
like it isn't required. Maybe since z/OS 1.8.
Sadly, it appears that SYSCALLS initializes some important REXX variables. If
you don't call it, they never get initialized.
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:18:58 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote:
Sadly, it appears that SYSCALLS initializes some important REXX variables. If
you don't call it, they never get initialized. :-(
Even worse, if one relies on PROCEDURE EXPOSE to isolate
variable scopes, one must put SYSCALLS('ON') in many
On 11/19/2010 10:57 AM, McKown, John wrote:
I know that I'm missing something, but that seems to be addressed here:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/ikj4a370/14.14
These are instructions for updating IBM's TSO/E REXX environment parameters
modules. The difficulty in
I've always liked ISPF edit much more than XEDIT. You said PDF edit - I'm
not sure if you mean something different than ISPF edit.
My theory is that what you learn to use first is usually what you like best.
I first learned SPF edit back around 1979. I was the VM systems programmer
for 5 or
I learned Wylbur first. I still miss it.
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Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 10:01 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: REXX address environments
I've always liked
There are a number of environments for REXX which are accessed via the
ADDRESS command. Eg: ADDRESS TSO ; ADDRESS SDSF; ADDRESS SYSCALL; ADDRESS
ISPEXEC; ADDRESS ISREDIT. So, I my mind was wandering around without a keeper
the other day and started thinking about what other environments might
be wrong
FTP would be good!
Phil
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McKown, John
Sent: 18 November 2010 13:43
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: REXX address environments
There are a number of environments for REXX which
I agree John, the REXX Address environments listed would be also great to have.
Rexx is general is a great tool and very useful for a lot of scripting.
Scott J Ford
From: McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thu
John:
Your ideas are great.
Sign me in.
We sure need those environments from Rexx.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:43 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com
wrote:
There are a number of environments for REXX which are accessed via the
ADDRESS command. Eg: ADDRESS TSO ; ADDRESS SDSF; ADDRESS
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:43:03 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
There are a number of environments for REXX which are accessed via the
ADDRESS command. Eg: ADDRESS TSO ; ADDRESS SDSF; ADDRESS SYSCALL; ADDRESS
ISPEXEC; ADDRESS ISREDIT. So, I my mind was wandering around without a keeper
the other day
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:40 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: REXX address environments
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:43:03 -0600, McKown, John wrote:
There are a number of environments for REXX which are
accessed via
VSE supports ADDRESS JCL.
Very useful. But I suppose the way JCL is implemented on MVS would probably
not allow this.
Ah well.
Frank
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Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development
FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA
P: 303-235-1403
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To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: REXX address environments
VSE supports ADDRESS JCL.
Very useful. But I suppose the way JCL is implemented on MVS
would
For IMS there is REXXIMS, REXXDLI and IMSSPOC.
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 08:52, McLaren Phil
phil.mcla...@axawinterthur.co.uk wrote:
John,
There is a Rexx/CICS EXCI interface - CA1D. Just set it up here and it
works well.
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?rs=1083uid=swg24009233
Gil,
Thanks for the URL. And for letting me down easy. That API looks complete to
me. Perhaps now quite as simple as I was envisioning, but complete enough to
use as-is without me messing it up.
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