Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:39:06 -0500, Andrew McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The XE levels of the V41 OMEGAMONs are where all the power of the products are. They allow you to use the Tivoli Enterprise Portal (TEP) and it's single pane of glass architecture to combine distributed monitoring

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-26 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA? On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:00:14 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... On the good side, there are Omegamon project managers attending SHARE that are aware of this thread and are interested in getting specific information. Any significant

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-26 Thread Andrew McIntyre
Stephen Hall wrote: Doug, It's in the XE component, which means you have to access it via the TEP (Tivoli Enterprise Portal GUI). It hangs off the MVS Operating System window, and is called z/OS Unix System Services Window. However, it is a basic overview only. HTH, Stephen Hall IAG

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-26 Thread Doug Fuerst
Andrew McIntyre wrote: snip It's true that the base TEP USS workspace has the word overview in it. However, as with all OMEGAMON TEP workspaces, you have to right click to see what else is available. In the USS case, there are hundreds of metrics externalized to the out of the box

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-26 Thread Andrew McIntyre
Doug Fuerst wrote: ICKY. So I have to put in the XE piece and access the TEMS to look at anything. The setup for that has pretty bad and confusing documentation, and is an unwieldy implementation. Besides, I was told by Omegamon support that there was nothing in the GUI that I couldn't get to

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:34:52 -0500, Joseph H Winterton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... IBM did not publish new customization and configuration information for V550 due to the small amount of change from V520 to V550 in this area. Doc is available at this link:

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 07:00:14 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... On the good side, there are Omegamon project managers attending SHARE that are aware of this thread and are interested in getting specific information. Any significant results coming from their interest will be a

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-24 Thread Stephen Hall
___ Note: This e-mail is subject to the disclaimer contained at the bottom of this message. ___ /snip Doug wrote: All I

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
Doug Fuerst writes: All I can say is I have 4.1 or 550 for z/OS and there is not one shred of USS support in the product that I can find. I was told that if I wanted that support I needed Omegamon for USS. So if this is the case, even the support people and the marketing people are unaware of it.

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-22 Thread Doug Fuerst
All I can say is I have 4.1 or 550 for z/OS and there is not one shred of USS support in the product that I can find. I was told that if I wanted that support I needed Omegamon for USS. So if this is the case, even the support people and the marketing people are unaware of it. I actually use

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-22 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Of Timothy Sipples Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 12:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA? Doug Fuerst writes: And every piece is another charge. SMS? Gimme some money. USS? Gimme some money. DASD, VTAM, whatever? gimme money. I cannot comment on everything

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-22 Thread Joseph H Winterton
PROTECTED] Timothy Sipples/Chicago/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 02/22/2008 01:44 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA? Doug Fuerst

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:41:54 -0800, John Mattson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having a fascinating adventure going to zOS 1.8 courtesy of IBM/Tivoli/Candle/Omegamon. I received and applied the products along with my Serverpac. Then I go to install what Tivoli calls V4.1, but is

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-21 Thread Doug Fuerst
Pommier, Rex R. wrote: Yep, I ran into the same dilemma. I had to install the upgrade to make my z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 upgrade work and had to decipher between V4.1 and Omegamon V550, using the V520 manuals. I was less than impressed as well. All the time I was installing version 4.1/550/520 I had

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-21 Thread Timothy Sipples
Doug Fuerst writes: And every piece is another charge. SMS? Gimme some money. USS? Gimme some money. DASD, VTAM, whatever? gimme money. I cannot comment on everything mentioned in this thread, but I can comment on this area. Candle used to have every monitor priced separately, yes. IBM

Re: Is IBM/Tivoli turning into CA?

2008-02-21 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Yep, I ran into the same dilemma. I had to install the upgrade to make my z/OS 1.4 to 1.7 upgrade work and had to decipher between V4.1 and Omegamon V550, using the V520 manuals. I was less than impressed as well. All the time I was installing version 4.1/550/520 I had ASG trying to talk me