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at 01:49 PM, "Stocker, Herman"
said:
>To your question are there any got Chas - tons.
I'm not aware of any source control system without gotchas, including
doing it manually. The real question is wh
RD10 PSN UA60473 UP11/07/19
I have this one on John, but the other one looks promising, and I can get it on
a system by Wednesday, perhaps sooner.
Thanks!
MA
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Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
Just an update Re breaking PDSE's, I was successful. :) It seems to take
adding and deleting members versus just updating members.
I ran two iebcopy's on different sysplexes to copy members in, then deleted
members from both sysplexes, and it was broken, and recreatabl
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 11:38 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Sclm / PDSE
Just an update Re breaking PDSE's, I was successful. :) It seems to take
adding and deleting members versus just updating members.
I ran two iebcopy's on different sysplexes to copy members in, th
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From: Mary Anne Matyaz [mailto:maryanne4...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:37 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Sclm / PDSE
Just an update Re breaking PDSE's, I was successful. :) It seems to take
adding and deleting members versus
Just an update Re breaking PDSE's, I was successful. :) It seems to take
adding and deleting members versus just updating members.
I ran two iebcopy's on different sysplexes to copy members in, then deleted
members from both sysplexes, and it was broken, and recreatable.
IEBPDSE, however, wo
On Thu, 5 Apr 2012 04:40:58 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht
wrote:
>Edward Jaffe wrote:
>
>>On 4/4/2012 11:32 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
>>> I was actually trying to break a PDSE last week, so that I could get an
>>> example of the IEBPDSE utility run against a hosed PDSE, and I couldn't
>>> seem
"You must live right. Almost every time I've accidentally updated a PDSE from
outside the sysplex it has been immediately broken. I suggest you do concurrent
ISPF 3.3 copy members to the target PDSE and/or LKEDs while also doing copy."
@Edward, Mim is preventing me from updating them concurrently.
Edward Jaffe wrote:
>On 4/4/2012 11:32 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
>> I was actually trying to break a PDSE last week, so that I could get an
>> example of the IEBPDSE utility run against a hosed PDSE, and I couldn't seem
>> to break one. I have two sysplexes so I was randomly back and forth upd
On Wed, 4 Apr 2012 23:48:03 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
>On 4/4/2012 11:32 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
>> I was actually trying to break a PDSE last week, so that I could get an
>> example of the IEBPDSE utility run against a hosed PDSE,
>> and I couldn't seem to break one. I have two sysplexes s
On 4/4/2012 11:32 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
I was actually trying to break a PDSE last week, so that I could get an example
of the IEBPDSE utility run against a hosed PDSE, and I couldn't seem to break
one. I have two sysplexes so I was randomly back and forth updating from
outside the syspl
Thanks one and all. We run on several z/Pdt systems, which are great and mainly
remote.
So I am always looking to make my job, sysprog, developer and qa'er easier.
Your input did just thank and I am appreciate of that...
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Scott Ford
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www.identityforge.com
We use the h*ll out of SCLM. Unfortunately I'm no expert on it, but we
do have a very good one in-house.
We even used it for distributed stuff (java, etc.) w/ BREEZE & CLOUD9
and our change control system (for things besides software updates).
We do have a C language environment on the mainfram
Tom Harper wrote: "Our only issue is that it requires PDSEs, which, until last
month, broke frequently."
I was actually trying to break a PDSE last week, so that I could get an example
of the IEBPDSE utility run against a hosed PDSE, and I couldn't seem to break
one. I have two sysplexes so I w
il 04, 2012 1:02 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Sclm
We've been using it for two or three years. Our only issue is that it requires
PDSEs, which, until last month, broke frequently.
Tom
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From: Hal Merritt [mailto:hmerr...@jackhenry.com]
Sent: Wednesday
You might want to join the SCLM newsgroup.
Lizette
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>From: Scott Ford
>Sent: Apr 4, 2012 10:10 AM
>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>Subject: Sclm
>
>All,
>
>I am considering the usage of IBM's SCLM to manage software products.
>Since we are 'pure' development ,I thought we m
We've been using it for two or three years. Our only issue is that it requires
PDSEs, which, until last month, broke frequently.
Tom
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From: Hal Merritt [mailto:hmerr...@jackhenry.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 01:56 PM
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We use the base (free) product for source only - we never could figure out how
to do C compiles.
I'd suggest the full product and some expert help in getting you going.
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Scott Ford
Se
Hi Scott,
We converted from CA Endevor to SCLM back in July 2011. After the initial
learning, about a month or two, we have not seen any problems.
If this is your first source control system there will be a large learning
curve. However, in the end you will have less errors more free time to
Good Luck.
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Of Scott Ford
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 1:10 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Sclm
All,
I am considering the usage of IBM's SCLM to manage software products.
Since we are '
Check your SCLM accounting records, this may give you a clue as to what
happened.
Bob
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Lucy Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 12:34 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: SCLM question
Kurt,
We too, have a front-end in our build process to handle ++include members.
I just wish there was a parser sample, not written in rexx, that we could
compile and have sclm flag it at that time. We did try the rexx sample a few
years ago, and for one of the programs that has a large num
n, 10/26/09, Scott Rowe wrote:
From: Scott Rowe
Subject: Re: SCLM and ++include statements
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 11:39 AM
Isn't ++INCLUDE a Panvalet control card, rather than SCLM?
>>> Kurt Eastwood 10/26/2009 12:29 PM >>>
I want to thank
ut it worked 99 percent of the time.
Panvalet was OK for its day, I guess. I do remember them charging a pretty buck
for the ISPF interface. We bought it but at the point we were also getting
geared up to drop the product.
Ed
--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Scott Rowe wrote:
From: Scott Rowe
Subjec
Thanks for your responses. I found a front end for SCLM that was handling the
++include statements.
Kurt
--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Scott Rowe wrote:
From: Scott Rowe
Subject: Re: SCLM and ++include statements
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:39 PM
Isn't ++INCL
anks,
Kurt
--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Scott Rowe wrote:
From: Scott Rowe
Subject: Re: SCLM and ++include statements
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009, 4:39 PM
Isn't ++INCLUDE a Panvalet control card, rather than SCLM?
>>> Kurt Eastwood 10/26/2009 12:29 PM >&g
Isn't ++INCLUDE a Panvalet control card, rather than SCLM?
>>> Kurt Eastwood 10/26/2009 12:29 PM >>>
I want to thank all of you in advance who might respond to my questions.
I am currently running SCLM and have programs that have ++include statements
imbeded in them to pull in file layouts, etc
The ++include is from a different library system, SCLM uses copy.
Bob
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Kurt Eastwood
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:29 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: SCLM and ++include statements
I
Hi Hal
What happens when you try to use the batch jobs? Does anything actually get
submitted? are you able to build interactively under TSO? We use SCLM
extensively for many different things, and we use the batch interface for
all of our builds and promotions.
We've also used rexx for language p
You may find the new(ish) redbook, "Getting Started with SCLM" (SG24-7392)
very helpful. There are also some sample programs you can download. Here's
the link to the redbook:
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247392.html
Be sure to click on the "Additional Material" link to get access to th
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Subject: Re: SCLM in btch
The basic setup is the missing piece. SCLM does not come with any
usable/working samples. In fact, we use only the very basics because we
could not get any of the compiles, etc working.
The programmer (yes, 'the' programmer) used some sort of interactive
c
could not replicate.
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Subject: Re: SCLM in btch
In a message dated 7/29/2008 12:54:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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Subject: Re: SCLM in btch
I have implemented them in REXX. I don't have the code with me right
now,
but I can send you some samples off list tonight, if you like.
Regards,
Dave
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In a message dated 7/29/2008 12:54:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Has anyone been able to implement any SCLM batch processes?
>>
Which FM are you using? Once the initial SKELs are setup it ought to do the
trick.
2.2.10 Batch Processing
The Verify Batch Job I
I have implemented them in REXX. I don't have the code with me right now,
but I can send you some samples off list tonight, if you like.
Regards,
Dave
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Hal Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 9:1
Thanks Rob. That solved my Problem#2 as well. Interesting that the
REXX translator has a few quirks. I'll have to take the time to fix
these but for now I just worked around them.
I noticed that:
1) It didn't recognize .* comments in macros (I did change FLMLRASM to
correct that one)
2) It does
Ken,
For (1), you add the SPMs as "opcodes" in the parser for HLASM.
Here at Rocket we use a modified version of the supplied REXX exec
FLMLRASM and add the SPMs into the "opcodes.i" stem variable.
Rob Scott
Rocket Software, Inc
275 Grove Street
Newton, MA 02466
617-614-2305
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