On Wed, Dec 23rd, 2009 Radoslaw wrote:
SOA is a platform neutral protocol.
SOA is *not* a protocol. It is a marketing plonk. Nothing behind the
gibberish.
As any other plonk, it can be (un)related to a mainframe as well as
any other platform.
DO you need to spend some money? You need some
Shane Ginnane pisze:
On Wed, Dec 23rd, 2009 Radoslaw wrote:
SOA is a platform neutral protocol.
SOA is *not* a protocol. It is a marketing plonk. Nothing behind the
gibberish.
As any other plonk, it can be (un)related to a mainframe as well as
any other platform.
DO you need to spend some
Don't forget SOA enabled keyboards and monitors. :)
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:23 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.plwrote:
Shane Ginnane pisze:
On Wed, Dec 23rd, 2009 Radoslaw wrote:
SOA is a platform neutral protocol.
SOA is *not* a protocol. It is a marketing plonk. Nothing behind
I have come across one instance of SOA not being a vague buzzword - in
connecting different machines / technologies / applications which are
otherwise not on talking terms. The cost of such connection is not low and
the solution doesn't scale. Then again there would be no need for SOA band-
aid
Timothy Sipples wrote:
It's probably also worth pointing out that, if you crack open the textbook
definition of SOA (Service-Oriented Architecture), you won't find step 1:
throw everything away anywhere. That would tend to be the antithesis of
the definition, as a matter of fact.
While it's
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Timothy Sipples wrote:
It's
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timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes:
Does anyone understand this article's title? It's quite tough to parse.
The title is very much like saying
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Also many z/OS shops
#gateway
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#7 Union Pacific Railroad ditches its
mainframe for SOA
the gateway started out as rs/6000 ha/cmp configuration with multiple
(diverse) internet connections from different ISPs ... and some number
of misc. boxes around the perimeter serving various
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re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#7 Union Pacific Railroad ditches its
mainframe for SOA
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009s.html#8 Union Pacific Railroad
McKown, John pisze:
[...]
SOA is a platform neutral protocol.
SOA is *not* a protocol. It is a marketing plonk. Nothing behind the
gibberish.
As any other plonk, it can be (un)related to a mainframe as well as any
other platform.
DO you need to spend some money? You need some justification? No
Cross posted due to the UP system being in assembler.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/344916/Railroad_Crossing_When_Mainframe_Meets_SOA?source=CTWNLE_nlt_thisweek_2009-12-21
Dennis Roach
GHG Corporation
Lockheed Martin Mission Services
Facilities Design and Operations Contract
Strategic
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Cross posted due to the UP system being in assembler.
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/344916/Railroad_Crossing_When_Mai
nframe_Meets_SOA?source=CTWNLE
_nlt_thisweek_2009-12-21
The old
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sounded like another pin-head --- no nothing in charge
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Re: Union Pacific Railroad ditches its mainframe for SOA
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in its wake.
Scott
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Ron Wells rwe...@agfinance.com wrote:
sounded like another pin-head --- no nothing in charge
From:
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IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date:
12/21/2009 02:39 PM
Subject:
Re: Union Pacific Railroad ditches its
The system would have to be long-lasting
It will be difficult to be longer-lasting than forty years. I blame management
for not incrementally modernizing the existing system and not moving to a HLL
years ago.
Bob Shannon
--
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:22:47 -0500, Bob Shannon wrote:
The system would have to be long-lasting
It will be difficult to be longer-lasting than forty years. I blame management
for not incrementally modernizing the existing system and not moving to a HLL
years ago.
Hyy... this is a
with because of cost. They cost was a small
fraction of what there going to spend now.
Scott J Ford
IDF
From: Roach, Dennis (N-GHG) dennis.ro...@lmco.com
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Sent: Mon, December 21, 2009 1:40:51 PM
Subject: Union Pacific Railroad ditches its
On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:04:48 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Hyy... this is a railroad we're talking about here.
Yeah.
You'd think that a railroad should understand the value of big iron. I
suppose if their management was working for a manufacturing company they'd
want to use a fleet of Fiats
Does anyone understand this article's title? It's quite tough to parse.
The title is very much like saying ...ditches its bowl for breakfast
cereal, isn't it?
It's probably also worth pointing out that, if you crack open the textbook
definition of SOA (Service-Oriented Architecture), you won't
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