Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-07 Thread Chris Mason
Lindy ... they took long time to implement a resolver. There has always been a resolver function in TCP/IP for VM, TCP/IP for MVS and the IP component of z/OS Communications Server (CS) (CS IP). What you may have in mind is the introduction of the resolver *address space* in z/OS V1R2 CS IP.

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-07 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Yes, playing and I get things wrong. Sorry. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP Since

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-07 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
lindy.mayfi...@sas.com (Lindy Mayfield) writes: Interesting, if I am correct, they took long time to implement a resolver. If so, how were hostnames resolved? re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#42 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#43 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-07 Thread Ed Finnell
Point it to a DNS that worked. We ran ours on an RS/6000 for many moons. In a message dated 12/7/2011 12:34:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, lindy.mayfi...@sas.com writes: If so, how were hostnames resolved? -- For

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Scott - I assume ... TCP/IP stack came from for use in z/OS ... Did it originate from the University of Berkley? You will get a more comprehensive answer by asking on the following list: For IBMTCP-L subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Bob Shannon
I believe that the TCP/IP for VM product which was ported to become the TCP/IP for MVS product which became incorporated into the Communications Server product as the IP component follows what is described as the Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD flavour of an implementation of the Internet

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Bob Would you care to supply some evidence for your contention? I find no trace of such an upheaval in the z/OS V1R5 Communications Server IP Migration and Exploitation manual: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/F1A1B130/ On the other hand, while there are still

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Bob Shannon
Actually, it was OS/390 1.5, not z/OS 1.5. Too long ago. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP Bob Would

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
svet...@ameritech.net (scott) writes: Just was wondering where TCP/IP stack came from for use in z/OS? Did it originate from the University of Berkley? I hadn't followed the recent. The original mainframe tcp/ip stack product was implemented on vm370 in (mainframe) vs/pascal ... purely IBM

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Richards, Robert B.
LOL! OS/390 TWO dot FIVE (OS/390 2.5 was around 1996 IIRC) Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 8:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP Actually

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Norbert Friemel
06, 2011 8:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP Actually, it was OS/390 1.5, not z/OS 1.5. Too long ago. Bob IBM eNetwork Communications Server for OS/390 V2R5, March 1998 Norbert Friemel

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Bob Actually, it was OS/390 1.5, not z/OS 1.5. Too long ago. Not too long ago for the IBM manuals web sites! Indeed there was an upheaval in OS/390 V1R5 (VEE ONE AR FIVE) occasioned by the incorporation of OpenEdition function. It may be that - on close reading of what can be gleaned from

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 7:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP Bob Would you care to supply some evidence for your contention? I find no trace of such an upheaval in the z/OS

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 08:48:40 -0600, Chris Mason wrote: Indeed there was an upheaval in OS/390 V1R5 (VEE ONE AR FIVE) That's V2R5, as you noted below. The new Communications Server component was introduced in V2R4, but only for Unix applications. IIRC, the CS included VTAM and TCP/IP and they

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Peter I'm very sorry to be disappointing you! Is there any chance that there is a z/OS equivalent of these z/VM commands for the general (non-authorized) user? We're on the down slope, not the up slope! In other words, the direction in the IP component of z/OS Communications Server is to

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Mason Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP Peter I'm very sorry to be disappointing you! Is there any chance

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Steve Conway
: 12/06/2011 11:25 AM Subject:Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Chris, Well, I can't say I'm surprised by your answer, but thanks for your insights anyway. I haven't searched around the web yet (especially the CBT site

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#42 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP this talks about bsd 4.3 tahoe (june 1988) and reno (early 1990) distributions ... I've still got original source distribution backed up someplace http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution All the BSD stuff

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Tom That's V2R5 Quite correct, OS/390 V2R5 (VEE TWO AR FIVE) - The new Communications Server component was introduced in V2R4, I don't find this really quite so correct! This appears to refer to some quick fix called the Outboard Communications Server (OCS) which allowed a LAN- or

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP Peter, Sounds like you want TSO SEND. Do TSO HELP SEND for syntax and usage. Cheers,,,Steve Snipped From: Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 12/06/2011 11:25 AM Subject:Re: z/OS's

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#42 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#43 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP this is post here on ibm-main last april http://www.garli.com/~lynn/2011f.html#29 TCP/IP Available on MVS When? http://www.garli.com/~lynn/2011f.html#30 TCP/IP

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Steve Conway
peter.far...@broadridge.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 12/06/2011 12:22 PM Subject:Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Well, I certainly thought of TSO SEND, but it is the WAKEUP part of the process (i.e., the receiving end

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On 6. Dec 2011, at 17:05 , Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#42 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP this talks about bsd 4.3 tahoe (june 1988) and reno (early 1990) distributions ... I've still got original source distribution backed up someplace Otherwise you can

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
bzeeb-li...@lists.zabbadoz.net (Bjoern A. Zeeb) writes: Otherwise you can probably still get them from a friend or a more complete (source) history from here (for a small fee): http://www.mckusick.com/csrg/index.html re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#42 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP http

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
S. J. Palmisano Group Director Mid-Range Systems Management re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#43 z/OS's basis for TCP/IP in the mid-70s the US HONE datacenters were consolidated at 1501 (although the bldg now has another occupant). Recent references

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Ed Finnell
It was still pretty buggered up with PASCAL components scattered about, so much so it violated Software Manufacturing's policies and was only orderable as a separate product. In a message dated 12/6/2011 7:46:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, robert.richa...@opm.gov writes: OS/390 TWO dot

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Roger Bolan
Chris, I think you're referring to the Infoprint Server LPD server. See the latest bookshelf for details: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/aopbk380?FS=TRUE --Roger On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: The other major server

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Chris Mason
Ed It was still pretty buggered up with PASCAL components scattered about, ... I believe the position today is the list I included in a post to Peter Farley, which I will post again for your convenience: quote - SMTP and LPD servers - TSO HOMETEST, LPQ, LPR, LPRM, LPRSET, TELNET, and

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 58fc7f986fcb804286e23b59decf420f334a1...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com, on 12/06/2011 at 01:00 PM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com said: Actually, it was OS/390 1.5, not z/OS 1.5. Too long ago. There was no OS/390 1.5. OS/390 V2R5 sounds about right, although the old version would

Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-06 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Subject: Re: z/OS's basis for TCP/IP I believe that the TCP/IP for VM product which was ported to become the TCP/IP for MVS product which became incorporated into the Communications Server product as the IP component follows what is described as the Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD flavour

z/OS's basis for TCP/IP

2011-12-05 Thread scott
Just was wondering where TCP/IP stack came from for use in z/OS? Did it originate from the University of Berkley? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the