DIAGNOSE message

2006-02-17 Thread Jim McAlpine
I'm getting the following on a DIAGNOSE of a particular catalog - IDC11374I THESE ADDITIONAL CATALOG REFERENCED VOLUMES WERE ENCOUNTERED: ESASPL but when I do a LISTCAT ALL against it, there is no reference to ESASPL in the LISTCAT output. How do I remove the reference to ESASPL. Jim

Re: ISREDIT macro advice required.

2006-02-17 Thread Steve Flynn
On 16/02/06, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/16/2006 at 03:03 PM, Steve Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Things are getting weird. Not really; you're just expecting REXX to have CLIST semantics. Bingo, sort of... After much gnashing of teeth,

Pod slurping?

2006-02-17 Thread Phil Payne
A point made in http://www.isham-research.co.uk/dd.html for about the last couple of years. Scan down to data stick. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-17 Thread John Eells
Kopischke, David G. wrote: Infrequent Greetings, I'm trying to get moving on a z/OS upgrade. Using IBM's original stated direction of supporting four z/OS releases concurrently, I planned to upgrade to z/OS 1.6 this spring. I just reviewed the z/OS withdrawal dates and 1.6 is proposed

Re: How to Initialize a BDAM file

2006-02-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Greg Price said: Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:01:18 +1100 The only potential hassle I see is if you don't have enough data to fill the data set *and* you want the rest of the data set pre-formatted. (Whether you wanted this or not would depend upon the BDAM

Re: How to Initialize a BDAM file

2006-02-17 Thread Greg Price
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could one use a modest size data set and concatenate it with itself multiple times? Yes, that would work. Could one use EXECIO in a Rexx EXEC, in which case no source data set whatever is necessary? This depends on whether EXECIO tolerates DSORG=DA. Perhaps EXECIO

Re: Pod slurping?

2006-02-17 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/17/2006 6:59:48 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scan down to data stick. Probably needs updating a bit. My PC(2 yrs old-3 hardrives) has 4 USBs on back, 2 on front and one in the keyboard. My sister has an old 933Mhz Pavillion(it runs Draw

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 23:02:04 -0700, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know of one customer that's been in production on z/OS 1.6 since September 1, 2004. (Maybe they read this list.) That's 23 days before GA, so I guess z/OS is doing pretty well in the stability and quality department.

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-17 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 17, 2006, at 12:02 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: I know of one customer that's been in production on z/OS 1.6 since September 1, 2004. (Maybe they read this list.) That's 23 days before GA, so I guess z/OS is doing pretty well in the stability and quality department. :-) Anyone want to

IBM to invest $1B in data management services

2006-02-17 Thread Ed Gould
http://cwflyris.computerworld.com/t/302317/248833/9454/0/ Who knows maybe they will spend this to get all the bugs in DFP:) Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Catch 22 - File problem

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Pace
Went to run an ISPF exec. I get an allocation error on file IBMUSER.CPPTEMP1.SCPPWORK I tried to manually allocate the file and I get Duplicate file on volume. So on Data Set List Utility I put in IBMUSER and I don't see the file. But if I look at the VOLSER the file is on, sure enough it shows

Re: Catch 22 - File problem

2006-02-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Catch 22 - File problem Went to run an ISPF exec. I get an allocation error on file

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-17 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Timothy Sipples wrote: I know of one customer that's been in production on z/OS 1.6 since September 1, 2004. (Maybe they read this list.) That's 23 days before GA, so I guess z/OS is doing pretty well in the stability and quality department. :-) Anyone want to see if they can set a new

Dummy question about VOLCAT.

2006-02-17 Thread McKown, John
This is likely stupid, but I cannot find any documentation that says that moving the SYS1.VOLCAT.VGENERAL catalog from one volume to another is any different from moving any other catalog. I guess the basic thing would be to ensure that it is not updated during the move. But just for my comfort,

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-17 Thread Bruce Black
It's our policy to support releases for three years, which means we intend to withdraw R6 from service in September 2007. This has not been announced yet, so it is not official; nonetheless, it's the way I'd bet. That date is listed on the EOS page as projected but not announced. -- Bruce A.

Re: Heads Up - LE PE - PK15432

2006-02-17 Thread Porowski, Ken
OK. Now I'm getting confused ... I went back to the FM's and Enterprise Cobol 3.3.0 and previous SEARCH ALL WHEN phrase (binary search) If the WHEN relation-condition is specified, the compare is based on the length and sign of data-name. For example, if the length of data-name is shorter than

Re: Pod slurping?

2006-02-17 Thread Steve Arnett
The fact that USB ports are on the backs of PCs (rather than the fronts) indicates they were designed for cubicle-dwellers. I have three computers at home with USB ports on the front. I also have cables that allow back mounted USBs to be used easily. They were not designed for

Pod slurping?

2006-02-17 Thread Phil Payne
Probably needs updating a bit Technology's a bitch. (That will probably get me another SnottyGram from Bell Helicopter's firewall for inappropriate sexist language. Seufz.) Didn't the CIA ban Furbies a while back? I now find I carry - pretty much by default - a huge memory capacity: a) I

Re: Pod slurping?

2006-02-17 Thread John Wynton
Ah, but do you own a pocket protector? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Payne Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 12:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Pod slurping? Probably needs updating a bit Technology's a bitch.

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-17 Thread John Eells
Bruce Black wrote: It's our policy to support releases for three years, which means we intend to withdraw R6 from service in September 2007. This has not been announced yet, so it is not official; nonetheless, it's the way I'd bet. That date is listed on the EOS page as projected but not

Re: Pod slurping?

2006-02-17 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/17/2006 11:23:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have lost the glass-house discipline, and I think we are the poorer for it because the philosophy used to percolate. The glass house no longer sets the standards, and that's not good.

Re: Catch 22 - File problem

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Pace
That didn't perzactly work either. DELETE IBMUSER.CPPTEMP1.SCPPWORK NVR FILE(DISK1) IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 50 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLE4-88 IDC0551I ** ENTRY IBMUSER.CPPTEMP1.SCPPWORK NOT DELETED IDC0001I FUNCTION COMPLETED, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 8

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-17 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:36:57 -0800, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Timothy Sipples wrote: I know of one customer that's been in production on z/OS 1.6 since September 1, 2004. (Maybe they read this list.) That's 23 days before GA, so I guess z/OS is doing pretty well in the stability and quality

Re: Catch 22 - File problem

2006-02-17 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
If you go to ISPF 3.4 and put in both the data set name and the volser where it lives from which you want to delete it, what happens if you use line command D on it? Don Imbriale -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent:

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-17 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Tom Schmidt wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:36:57 -0800, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Timothy Sipples wrote: I know of one customer that's been in production on z/OS 1.6 since September 1, 2004. (Maybe they read this list.) That's 23 days before GA, so I guess z/OS is doing pretty well in the

Re: Catch 22 - File problem

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Pace
Up in the upper right hand corner I get - Data set not cataloged Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com This e-mail and files transmitted with it are

Re: Catch 22 - File problem

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Pace
This may sound silly, but in VSE land I would use DITTO PVT and just delete the VTOC entry. Is that a No-No in MVS? Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-17 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 09:56:58 -0800, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Tom Schmidt wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 08:36:57 -0800, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Timothy Sipples wrote: I know of one customer that's been in production on z/OS 1.6 since September 1, 2004. (Maybe they read this list.) That's 23 days

Re: Dummy question about VOLCAT.

2006-02-17 Thread Greg Dorner
I moved it - just like any catalog. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 10:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Dummy question about VOLCAT. This is likely stupid, but I

Re: Catch 22 - File problem

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Pace
A little more history - I did a LISTCAT of every catalog on my system and found them defined in the master catalog of my driver system, which I had imported into this system's master catalog. Don't know if that helps any. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700

Re: DIAGNOSE message

2006-02-17 Thread Greg Dorner
You have a VVDS missing from your catalog that doesn't coincide with the catalog backpointer in the VVDS. I usually do something like this: //S1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //D01 DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=volser,DISP=OLD //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*

Re: Catch 22 - File problem

2006-02-17 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Catch 22 - File problem That didn't perzactly work either. DELETE IBMUSER.CPPTEMP1.SCPPWORK

Re: Catch 22 - File problem

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Pace
So I found a delete non-vsam DELETE file-name FILE(file) PURGE CATALOG(cat) That did the trick. Thanks to all that tried to help. Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862

Re: Catch 22 - File problem

2006-02-17 Thread Mark Pace
On the other hand, if you are cozy with your security administrator, ask Which is also me. I'm like a VSE shop. I do everything. To print a VVDS for a volume: //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * PRINT INFILE(DISK) //DISK DD DSN=SYS1.VVDS.Vvolser,DISP=SHR,UNIT=SYSALLDA, //

RMF/SMF Type 72 Storage

2006-02-17 Thread Klein, Kevin
I've been looking for most of the week. I see that storage is not tracked for report classes in RMF but I haven't been able to find a place where this is documented. I've checked the RMF manuals but haven't found anything saying so. Does anyone know where I can find this documented? I need

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-17 Thread R.S.
Bruce Black wrote: So, from the info Ron and Bruce provided, it sounds like multi-GB single- threaded disk output can get 30-40 MB/sec these days. Impressive! I don't know if even the newest and fastest tape can compare with those numbers. The newest IBM mainframe drive TS1120 claims a

Re: z/OS 1.6 Withdrawal Date

2006-02-17 Thread R.S.
Dave Kopischke wrote: I knew I didn't dream this: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245976.pdf OS/390 supports the coexistence of up to four consecutive releases. While the four-release coexistence policy applies to JES2, the fact that a JES2 installation can be staged has been taken

Re: GDPS and DASD Vendors

2006-02-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Is there any IBM public list about what DASD vendors suppport GDPS? The three mainframe DASD vendors supported GDPS in 2000. I know, because we had all three (IBM, EMC, HDS) in our GDPS environment. That shouldn't have changed in 6 years. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-17 Thread Bruce Black
The *latest* STK/Sun drive is T1. 120MB/s claimed. Capacity like TS1120: 500GB uncompressed. thanks. I had not even heard about it. STK needs to check their web site. To quote the numbers I did, I went to the storagetek,com web site and clicked on tape drives. The page that comes up

Re: GDPS and DASD Vendors

2006-02-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Sorry for responding to my own post. That should have said ... 2001 ... 5 years. -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 00:00:00 To:IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GDPS and DASD Vendors Is there any IBM public list about what DASD

external vs internal coupling facility

2006-02-17 Thread Frank Leblanc
We have an external coupling facility that is only used about 2%. We have four LPARs on an 890 with 3 shared general purpose engines and one IFL for VM/Linux, so all engines accounted for. We have been requested to create a production coupling facility LPAR that will share the general purpose

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-17 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:51:51 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks very promising. Yes .. on the other hand when we look at DASD manufacturers numbers .. you wonder why some of us are looking for larger time frame for backup ... the numbers say that we need few minutes to save few teras Ok

Re: GDPS and DASD Vendors

2006-02-17 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 14:23:09 -0600, Giovanni Cerquone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any IBM public list about what DASD vendors suppport GDPS?. If so, could you please provide me with the URL? I dont'know why my post did not get through , i'll re-ask . My question : If you talk about DASD

CAZ????? modules

2006-02-17 Thread Thomas Conley
Can anybody tell me the CA product using the CAZ prefix? I'm thinking JCLCHECK, but I can't remember. The reason I ask is that I just got a new product today, the IBM Application Performance Analyzer (their STROBE replacement) and some genius at IBM decided to use the CAZ prefix. Can't wait

Re: CAZ????? modules

2006-02-17 Thread Tom Sims
Yes, JCLCheck. Tom Sims Trident Services Thomas Conley wrote: Can anybody tell me the CA product using the CAZ prefix? I'm thinking JCLCHECK, but I can't remember. The reason I ask is that I just got a new product today, the IBM Application Performance Analyzer (their STROBE replacement)

Re: external vs internal coupling facility

2006-02-17 Thread ibm-main
From: Frank Leblanc We have been requested to create a production coupling facility LPAR that will share the general purpose engines. It will replace the external CF, thus saving money in maintenance, etc. M - everyone's at the mercy of bean counters. Has anyone else tried this and what

Re: external vs internal coupling facility

2006-02-17 Thread Skip Robinson
We also moved from standalone CF to ICF for financial reasons. But our management had the foresight to spring for some ICF engines in the process. They reasoned that enough money would be saved just on maintenance to justify the extra CPs. An additional saving for many shops is memory.

Re: CAZ????? modules

2006-02-17 Thread Craddock, Chris
Can anybody tell me the CA product using the CAZ prefix? I'm thinking JCLCHECK, but I can't remember. The reason I ask is that I just got a new product today, the IBM Application Performance Analyzer (their STROBE replacement) and some genius at IBM decided to use the CAZ prefix. Can't wait

Re: CAZ????? modules

2006-02-17 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/17/2006 5:48:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm. The IBM genius would have been within his/her rights. IBM has documented for eons that they own names in the A-J range. Guess a quicky would be copy CA:CAZ modules into a separate PDS then

Re: CAZ????? modules

2006-02-17 Thread ibm-main
From: Craddock, Chris Hmmm. The IBM genius would have been within his/her rights. IBM has documented for eons that they own names in the A-J range. Agree whole-heartedly. Unfortunately as Tom alludes, it's the customer that has to wear the consequences. Tom, you're kicking the wrong vendor.

Re: CAZ????? modules

2006-02-17 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Craddock, Chris wrote: Hmmm. The IBM genius would have been within his/her rights. IBM has documented for eons that they own names in the A-J range. Perhaps. But, coming out of the Matrix into the real world, one quickly realizes the IBM packaging genii ought to make allowances for

Re: Disk vs Tape scenario

2006-02-17 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
A few minutes - you must have old kit... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruno Sugliani Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2006 6:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Disk vs Tape scenario On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:51:51

Re: CAZ????? modules

2006-02-17 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 17, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Craddock, Chris wrote: Hmmm. The IBM genius would have been within his/her rights. IBM has documented for eons that they own names in the A-J range. Perhaps. But, coming out of the Matrix into the real world, one quickly realizes the IBM

Re: CAZ????? modules

2006-02-17 Thread ibm-main
From: Edward E. Jaffe Craddock, Chris wrote: Hmmm. The IBM genius would have been within his/her rights. IBM has documented for eons that they own names in the A-J range. Perhaps. But, coming out of the Matrix into the real world, one quickly realizes the IBM packaging genii ought to

Re: CAZ????? modules

2006-02-17 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 10:42 +1000 on 02/18/2006, ibm-main wrote about Re: CAZ? modules: IBM also reserve SVC numbers - another requirement that CA flout. OTOH - IBM's hands are not 100% clean when it comes to observing reserved SVC Numbers Rules. I seem to remember that while they reserve SVCs 200 (or is

Re: Redirecting Software Functionality

2006-02-17 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Ed Gould wrote: On Feb 16, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Walt Farrell wrote: On 2/15/2006 5:32 PM, Jerry Vernon wrote: We are trying to restrict the execution of certain programs by LPAR so we can just license them by processor. The one in particular we are looking at is COBOL. By limiting COBOL

Re: CAZ????? modules

2006-02-17 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 17, 2006, at 9:59 PM, Thomas Conley wrote: Freakin' Aussies Thomas: Remember they are upside down:) Ed - Original Message - From: ibm-main [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 7:42 PM Subject: Re: CAZ? modules