Re: IEFSSSSA, IGDVLD and subsystem calls to SMS

2009-01-10 Thread Kenneth J. Kripke
Thanks to all that have responded. Your feedback has been most helpful. Sincerely; Ken Kripke kkri...@mindspring.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with

Re: AIX gets 64 bit COBOL but still none for Z/os ...

2009-01-10 Thread R.S.
John McKown pisze: On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:11:36 -0500, David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 14:11 -0600, John McKown wrote: OK - how much money, in the form of licensing cost, are you willing to pay to get 64 bit addressing in COBOL? What I already pay today, for a

Re: AIX gets 64 bit COBOL but still none for Z/os ...

2009-01-10 Thread John McKown
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009, R.S. wrote: snip How much will you pay for the enhancements you don't need? A very good point! In our case, we could still run effectively using VS COBOL II, CICS/TS 1.3, and z/OS 1.6. We are basically stabilized at that level. If the costs today were what they were back

Re: First z/OS 1.9 IPL Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I already figured that out that JES2 wasn't initialized yet. D R,R shows nothing, as a may have already replied. Eric Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: 'Invalid command' in response to $S means that JES2 has not initialized far enough to respond to any commands. I would

Re: MVS 4 minute 'outage'

2009-01-10 Thread Patty Mabie
We also run on a z9BC uni, 30 MSUs. We run Siemens applications and they still recommend a uni for their CICS-based workload. Do you get any missing interrupts with these hangs? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: First z/OS 1.9 IPL Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 1/10/2009 10:20:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com writes: I already figured that out that JES2 wasn't initialized yet. D R,R shows nothing, as a may have already replied. Can you get to syslog either hardcopy or HMC to see if there are any obvious

Re: First z/OS 1.9 IPL Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Eric, If JES2 is about the last thing to try and come up, but hasn't yet ... How many SPOOL volumes do you have defined to JES2? Do they exist? Is there a HASPACE dataset on each volume? Do you have at least one HASPCKPT dataset pre-allocated and cataloged? Please say again: What is the

Re: First z/OS 1.9 IPL Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Eric Bielefeld
The messages go by really fast, so I didn't see any error messages. Just after the console goes to roll mode, all messages stop. As stated in another reply, D R,L and D R,R show no outstanding replies. I believe IEFSSN is starting JES2. Since I'm not at work, I can't really check

Re: First z/OS 1.9 IPL Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Ulrich Krueger
One more thing, Eric ... When you do the next IPL, be sure to set your console to RD mode and either a roll time of 2 or 3 or more seconds or turn off rolling altogether ... that'll give you a chance to read all messages and spot possible (non-highlighted) problems before they roll off the

Re: Need TN3270e software

2009-01-10 Thread Chris Mason
Jerry In researching your question, I entered 2074 into the search box on the IBM web page. The first document found was the Introducing the IBM 2074 Control Unit redbook (September 2000). On page 2, I found the following statement and footnote: quote Referring to Figure 1, it does not

How to interrupt an LPAR ?

2009-01-10 Thread J Ellis
Here's is what apar oa25452 says: If the vary offline fails with message IEE367I ATTEMPT TO VARY MASTER CONSOLE CANDIDATE IS REJECTED, use the HMC to generate an external interrupt to the LPAR owning the console. Note that this may deactivate the other active

Re: Submitting jobs to a z/os guest from vm

2009-01-10 Thread Chris Mason
Vince Does z/OS run as a guest machine of your VM system? If it does, get your VM systems programmer to sort out the unit record devices in the directory entries of your - presumed - CMS virtual machine and the z/OS virtual machine so that files can be exchanged between the two in the

Re: Submitting jobs to a z/os guest from vm

2009-01-10 Thread Scott Barry
Now that JES2 (and maybe JES3?) now support instream data-image (like SYSIN) LRECLs greater than 80-bytes, I am curious if/when VM/RSCS instream data-image interface will ever support the same? Of course, that observation/question would include any application/utility program which also takes

Re: First z/OS 1.9 IPL Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Thanks for all the great replies. I have several things to check when I get in Monday morning. Ulrich - in reply to your other message, the console is in RD mode. I don't think that matters though, because when the messages scroll by, that's before the console is set up in RD mode. There

Re: How to interrupt an LPAR ?

2009-01-10 Thread Chris Mason
Jerry Causing an external interrupt to be presented to the software, the operating system's interrupt handling logic, running in an LPAR - logically behaving as an individual processor - looks entirely logical and sensible to me. The APAR text states that it can be done using the HMC which

Re: Submitting jobs to a z/os guest from vm

2009-01-10 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 16:35:39 -0600, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 12:49:44 -0600, Walt Farrell wrote: With RSCS and appropriate RACF and JES setup RACF can supply the proper ID automatically, with no passwords required. FSVO proper. For historic reasons, my VM

Re: How to interrupt an LPAR ?

2009-01-10 Thread Joe D'Alessandro
The Support Element manual for the z9 System describes the External Interrupt function in chapter 11. Support Element Operations Guide. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: How to interrupt an LPAR ?

2009-01-10 Thread Chris Mason
Joe Thank you for the pointer. Here is a reference to perhaps one of a variety of manuals named Support Element Operations Guide: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss? uid=isg213ebbac01b2562d385256bab006f2eb5 IBM eserver zSeries Support Element Operations Guide Version 1.7.3 SC28-

Re: First z/OS 1.9 IPL Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:18:26 +, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote: The messages go by really fast, so I didn't see any error messages. Just after the console goes to roll mode, all messages stop. As stated in another reply, D R,L and D R,R show no outstanding replies. I believe

Re: Submitting jobs to a z/os guest from vm

2009-01-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:47:27 -0600, Scott Barry wrote: Now that JES2 (and maybe JES3?) now support instream data-image (like SYSIN) JES3 longer than JES2, perhaps forever, and perhaps better than JES2. What does JES3 supply as the attributes of such an instream data set? I had thought it used

Re: How to interrupt an LPAR ?

2009-01-10 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 14:00:21 -0600, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote: Joe Thank you for the pointer. Here is a reference to perhaps one of a variety of manuals named Support Element Operations Guide: a search on the archives gives

Re: Fw: COBOL and Floating Point (was: SHARE Session 8194: z390 and zcobol Portable Mainframe COBOL Compiler written in structured macro assembler

2009-01-10 Thread Clark Morris
On 9 Jan 2009 08:26:20 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: Clark, When you bring up Java, this confuses me. Currently IBM does all the required conversion for floating point items shared between COBOL and Java in a z/OS environment. Do you have real-world evidence that this does isn't

Re: PDSE question - while discussing checkered history

2009-01-10 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 8568cbf65a535f4ab31b5b299337720a0199f...@nltnzmdowx053.dow.com, on 01/08/2009 at 08:21 AM, Tidy, David (D) dt...@dow.com said: Thanks for the reply. These are newly initialised empty volumes. We do the logical copy because we up-sequence the volume id, and build a new catalog (with the

Re: First z/OS 1.9 IPL Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Eric, I haven't done 1.9 yet, but at 1.4 to 1.7, I discovered that the size of my checkpoint was too small. One very short green message that went flying by and JES2 would not finish initializing. My symtoms were the same as yours, and I didn't have any WTOR either. Having 2 checkpoints

Re: First z/OS 1.9 IPL Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 03:21:23 +, Linda Mooney wrote: Hi Eric, I haven't done 1.9 yet, but at 1.4 to 1.7, I discovered that the size of my checkpoint was too small. One very short green message that went flying by and JES2 would not finish initializing. My symtoms were the same as yours,

Re: First z/OS 1.9 IPL Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Brian Westerman
I missed the first part of this, but have you issued a D R,R to see if you have any outstanding messages? Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: First z/OS 1.9 IPL Problem

2009-01-10 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Dave, $ACTIVATE avoidance mostly because of all of the 3rd party products with JES2 tables and/or exits. The way our change control goes, if I did a $ACTIVATE we would have had to bring folks in for testing, etc. Besides, I needed to expand spool anyway. We had outgrown our previous