Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread R.S.
Chase, John pisze: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve SNIPPAGE I am so glad you brought this up. Does anyone remember who Accenture was? Arthur Andersen, IIRC. No. Former name of Accenture was Andersen Consulting (www.ac.com), not

Re: Timestamp Difference

2009-12-02 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 00:29:10 -0600 Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com wrote: :I have 2 timetsamps fields of 26 bytes, i need to compare both of them and :find out which one is greater, is there any sample routine which will take care :all the critera's involved? As you say 26 bytes, I would presume

editting testing COBOL code

2009-12-02 Thread Bill Klein
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: editting testing COBOL code (was:Now is time for banks to replace core system according to

Re: FTPS Error

2009-12-02 Thread Tonni J Ottosen
Chris - There are two TSO commands: errno 76630291 ReasonCode: 76630291 Module: EZBTCFCN ErrnoJr: 657 JRTCPERROR Description: Tcp returned an error identified by the return code *** bpxmtext 76630291 Notice: unknown modid, reason text may be incorrect JrTcpError: Tcp returned an error

Re: IEC143I 213-30

2009-12-02 Thread Big Iron
I think that using a later copy step works because the time window involved is shorter and so collisions, two programs having the same PDS open for output with DISP=SHR, would be less likely but could still occur. I have seen that abend happen for link-edit steps. Using DISP=OLD will solve this

Re: editting testing COBOL code (was:Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture)

2009-12-02 Thread Joost van de Griek
2009/12/1 McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com: Does anybody have RDz and use it with COBOL? I use RDz with PL/1, though I doubt it'd be much different for COBOL. The main differences (vs. editing in ISPF) are that I do my initial compiles as local syntax checks until the code is ready

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Mike Kerford-Byrnes
Does this job execute w/o error at the vendor site? If so, what are they doing that your site does not (or vice versa)? If NOT, change vendor! (Who wants to trust/rely on a vendor who does not even test his installation deck?) Mike Kerford-Byrnes

Re: Timestamp Difference

2009-12-02 Thread Ron Thomas
Yes this is Db2 time stamp, but is comming in to the application from outside and in the program received in a container, so i need to use cobol only to manipulate and get the difference. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Stock, Roger W rst...@bu.edu wrote: Hi all, A vendor supplied me with a very large single job to install their software (10,000+ lines). The jobs abends the JES2 converter: IEC031I D37-04,IFG0554P,JES2,JES2,SYS9,VIO ,

Re: Timestamp Difference

2009-12-02 Thread Joost van de Griek
2009/12/2 Ron Thomas ron5...@gmail.com: Yes this is Db2 time stamp, but is comming in to the application from outside and in the program received in a container, so i need to use cobol only to manipulate and get the difference. Well, if both are represented as standard COBOL representations

Re: Date / Time simulation?

2009-12-02 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ken Porowski 2010 may be bad enough Temporary dataset names will begin with SYS10ddd (SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RAnnn.jobname.Rnnn) Depending on your security software (RACF, ACF2, Top Secret) and your specific

Re: editting testing COBOL code

2009-12-02 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Klein Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 4:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: editting testing COBOL code Snipped You have something set up VERY strangely if you think RDz

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 9:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture In

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:57:41 -0500, Stock, Roger W wrote: I did get it to work by deleting some 2000+ lines of comments. I did try the SUB command but it failed also. Yup. If the failure is occurring in JES, tweaking upstream components won't help. The jobs abends the JES2 converter: IEC031I

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Mark Yuhas
While this discussion has evolved into a discourse on HLLs and library support, I would like to make an observation. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, Accenture was Arthur Anderson Consulting. My company contracted with them to assess the status of our technology and its direction.

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Mark Yuhas
I have had a vendor send me such a deck. Not only did I have to insert a JOB statement, I also had to modify the DSNs in the CLIST included in the deck. Further, this jobstream contained a few object decks, so the editing was tricky due to having CAPS OFF. The vendor even crowed about how good

question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread McKown, John
There is an ongoing discussion on the CICS-L list about doing a STORAGE macro or GETMAIN/FREEMAIN. Some are saying that these functions can result in a wait for the CICS QR TCB (the TCB under which most of the CICS transactions are run). The discussion has now become that the STORAGE macro

Re: RMM Volume Delete

2009-12-02 Thread Hal Merritt
I believe the scenario is that the tape was physically destroyed while in the library, manually removed, and therefore cannot be ejected. The ATL should already know the volume is gone; all we need to do is deleted the volume entry from RMM. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread Bob Shannon
As far as I know, Storage just uses a different mechanism (PC) to invoke the same code that Getmain/Freemain uses. Since the PC runs under the TCB that invokes it, I don't understand why anyone thinks there will be a wait of any type. Since Storage doesn't suffer an SVC interrupt, it's probably

Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread Wayne Driscoll
A PC-cp doesn't have any sort of implicit wait, so I don't see what they are referring to in that sense. Both GETMAIN (a type one SVC) and the STORAGE PC routine will, at some point have to get the local lock, which will cause a suspension if and only if the lock is unavailable.

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Bill Fairchild
It can always be worse. I once saw a vendor's SE give a 10- or 20-page printout to a colleague of mine, who then sat at a keypunch for several hours punching cards to match the VERIFY and ZAP hex data for the dozens of PTFs described in said hand-out. This vendor apparently could not

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Stock, Roger W
I did get it to work by deleting some 2000+ lines of comments. I did try the SUB command but it failed also. Thanks for the suggestion. Roger -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Wednesday, December 02,

Re: Date / Time simulation?

2009-12-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 07:58:20 -0600, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Porowski Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Date /

Re: Date / Time simulation?

2009-12-02 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:19:18 -0500, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote: 2010 may be bad enough Temporary dataset names will begin with SYS10ddd (SYSyyddd.Thhmmss.RAnnn.jobname.Rnnn) Depending on your security software (RACF, ACF2, Top Secret) and your specific rules the SYS10 could fall

Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bob Shannon Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable? As far as I know,

Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread Bill Fairchild
A debugging investigator made wary by previous encounters with Dr. Murphy should assume that any hypothetically possible situation will occur, and especially if the consequences are the most severe. So the TCB occasionally is being suspended because the local lock is not available. I have

What no posts???

2009-12-02 Thread Ed Finnell
Looks like LISTSERV up mail distribution down. Sent Darren a post but no telling when he'll get it(if mail is down). Hmmm...'if you don't get this send me a txt msg'...chuckle -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Date / Time simulation?

2009-12-02 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Porowski Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Date / Time simulation? 2010 may be bad enough Temporary dataset names will begin with

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
McKown, John wrote: Anybody have a definate response as to whether a STORAGE function can cause the TCB to become z/OS non-dispatchable. I agree that it is not a good idea to do this in CICS. Work unit non-dispatchability is the key. They are throwing around the term WAIT

Re: DS8700 Feature FlashCopy SE

2009-12-02 Thread Bob Shannon
Not sure what the 'SE' is SE is Space Efficient:. We write code to exploit it, but we don't use it for any practical purpose. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: DS8700 Feature FlashCopy SE

2009-12-02 Thread Hal Merritt
Not sure what the 'SE' is, but we use Flashcopy on both of our DS8100's. It is a little cumbersome, but it seems to work pretty well to take a PIT copy of any number of volumes in that unit. Flashcopy can be a key component of a pretty slick DR strategy with XRC and GDPS. There is a Redbook

Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
Bill Fairchild wrote: A debugging investigator made wary by previous encounters with Dr. Murphy should assume that any hypothetically possible situation will occur, and especially if the consequences are the most severe. So the TCB occasionally is being suspended because the local lock is

what is the differecne in the 2 cobols

2009-12-02 Thread larry macioce
1)ad/cycle cobol/370 alt 2)enterprise cobol v4 ?? thanks in advance mace -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO

Re: DS8700 Feature FlashCopy SE

2009-12-02 Thread Bill Fairchild
SE means space-efficient. See http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/dsichelp/ds8000ic/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.storage.ssic.help.doc/f2c_spc_effnc_3icy8z.html, inter alia. Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel:

Re: Date / Time simulation?

2009-12-02 Thread Ken Porowski
If I read the alert from CA properly they do not recognize a 2010 TEMPDSN properly otherwise all would be fine. The workaround is to add specific rules for the 2010 TEMPDSN dataset name format to allow access to all users. Top Secret does allow a SYS1 (no dot) as a valid generic dataset prefix

Re: what is the differecne in the 2 cobols

2009-12-02 Thread Hal Merritt
Not much. For more details, see the COBOL upgrade/conversion guides. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of larry macioce Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 10:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: what is

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Martin Kline
Mark Yuhas said: A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, Accenture was Arthur Anderson Consulting. My company contracted with them to assess the status of our technology and its direction. While it was a foregone conclusion they would recommend a shift to UNIX, I was totally underwhelmed

Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread Rob Scott
I am curious as to why the developer wants to bypass normal CICS storage services (which probably is just a case of compare-and-swapping a chunk on some sort of SM domain queue) This sounds very much like a case of Doctor, it hurts when I do this ... Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 11:31:24 -0500, Bill Fairchild wrote: It can always be worse. I once saw a vendor's SE give a 10- or 20-page printout to a colleague of mine, who then sat at a keypunch for several hours punching cards to match the VERIFY and ZAP hex data for the dozens of PTFs described in

Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Scott Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable? I am curious as to why

Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott I am curious as to why the developer wants to bypass normal CICS storage services (which probably is just a case of compare-and-swapping a chunk on some sort of SM domain queue) This sounds very much

Re: IEC143I 213-30

2009-12-02 Thread Don Leahy
Good point. Our process is working by coincidence. Time to took for a better approach. Thanks. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 05:23, Big Iron billlalo...@rocketmail.com wrote: I think that using a later copy step works because the time window involved is shorter and so collisions, two programs

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. john.mck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown, John) writes: What! You don't fondly remember the joys of running a Stage 1 / Stage 2 sysgen? How you could be productive

Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Well if the intent is to support above the bar storage, then GETMAIN or STORAGE won't help, as they only manage 24 or 31 bit storage. Requests for above the bar storage require usage of the IARV64 service. Since the storage is owned by the address space, this service will still require (at

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 52bc4b80912010934w67887d68u6cc96a670a3ac...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/01/2009 at 09:34 AM, Guy Gardoit ggard...@gmail.com said: Any moron can load Windows, Any moron can buy a box with windoze preinstalled. Loading it yourself is another matter. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and

Re: IEC143I 213-30

2009-12-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4b14fd2e.6f0f.008...@efirstbank.com, on 12/01/2009 at 11:25 AM, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com said: Obviously one solution is to single thread the compiles. But I'd rather not if I don't have to. Any other solutions? If I changed to DISP=OLD would this eliminate the

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Steve Comstock
Mark Yuhas wrote: I have had a vendor send me such a deck. Not only did I have to insert a JOB statement, I also had to modify the DSNs in the CLIST included in the deck. Further, this jobstream contained a few object decks, so the editing was tricky due to having CAPS OFF. The vendor even

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Greg Smith
Does this job execute w/o error at the vendor site? If so, what are they doing that your site does not (or vice versa)? If NOT, change vendor! (Who wants to trust/rely on a vendor who does not even test his installation deck?) The error occurred in the converter. This means the job was

Re: what is the differecne in the 2 cobols

2009-12-02 Thread Steve Comstock
Hal Merritt wrote: Not much. For more details, see the COBOL upgrade/conversion guides. I disagree. Check out http://www.trainersfriend.com/COBOL_Courses/D704O.HTM it has an overview of differences by release since COBOL II. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread P S
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Martin Kline martin.kl...@yrcw.com wrote: Wow. I don't recognize your name, but I went through exactly the same experience with the woefully inexperienced staff from AA. They burned $35M of the company's money before being booted out the door. Yet, they were

Re: Date / Time simulation?

2009-12-02 Thread Howard Brazee
On 1 Dec 2009 14:05:49 -0800, edja...@phoenixsoftware.com (Edward Jaffe) wrote: I wonder, is there some sort of dooms day coming? Are people doing DR testing by setting their clocks ahead to 2012? :-) If the doomsday is Y2K level, then it could be cost effective to IPL a test machine with a

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Howard Brazee
On 2 Dec 2009 09:45:14 -0800, st...@trainersfriend.com (Steve Comstock) wrote: Reminds me of one of the great pieces of wisdom (not sure where it came from, lost in the mists of time): user friendly is programmer difficult Too often programmers create user interfaces in a way that is easy to

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Howard Brazee
On 02 Dec 09 08:18:10 -0800, Charlie Gibbs cgi...@kltpzyxm.invalid wrote: This is why I tell people that interactive is a synonym for manual. It stops a lot of GUI enthusiasts dead in their tracks, at least for a few seconds. I'll have to remember that.

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. rfocht...@ync.net (Rick Fochtman) writes: I wouldn't mind looking back at the good old days, but only for hysterical purposes. SIO/TIO/HIO are NOT areas I would

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Howard Brazee
On 1 Dec 2009 13:59:08 -0800, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: Who is we? I don't believe that I'm the only one one this list to write that I would never want to go back to the good old days. I don't know of anybody who wants everything that went with those days.

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Howard Brazee
On 2 Dec 2009 00:17:46 -0800, r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl (R.S.) wrote: Does anyone remember who Accenture was? Arthur Andersen, IIRC. No. Former name of Accenture was Andersen Consulting (www.ac.com), not Arthur Andersen. It was separate entity lng time before Enron bankrupcy. If

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Pierre Fichaud pr...@videotron.ca writes: Most banks have SLAs with acquiring institutions like FirstData,etc as far as transaction turnaround times are

How to subscribe to the Assembler List

2009-12-02 Thread esst...@juno.com
Can some one post the instruction for subscribing to the assembler discussion list. Thanks Paul D'Angelo Nutrition Improve your career health. Click now to study nutrition!

Work Load Manager Command to list connected Address Spaces

2009-12-02 Thread esst...@juno.com
Are there any MVS Operator commands that will list address spaces that have connected to work load manager ? Connected - I mean an address space that has issued IWMCONN or IWME4COnn. I do not have Omegamon nor do I have TMON. Will RMF display such information ? THANKS Paul D'Angelo

Re: IEC143I 213-30

2009-12-02 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I believe the Binder uses ISPF-style enqueues to allow OPEN for output with SHR access without any problems. When needing updates with SHR and utilities that do not support ISPF-style enqueues, our approach has been to change the job step to invoke a front-end program that gets the required

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:50:00 EST, Greg Smith r...@epaibm.rtpnc.epa.gov wrote: Does this job execute w/o error at the vendor site? If so, what are they doing that your site does not (or vice versa)? If NOT, change vendor! (Who wants to trust/rely on a vendor who does not even test his

Re: IEC143I 213-30

2009-12-02 Thread Frank Swarbrick
So perhaps a combination of the two is in order. Write to a temporary PDS during the translate and then use DISP=OLD on the copy from the temp PDS in to the actual PDS. Yet another frustating issue in going to z/OS. Oy. Thanks for the ideas. Frank On 12/2/2009 at 3:23 AM, in message

SMS ACS and symbols

2009-12-02 Thread Jousma, David
All, Are system or installation defined system symbols other than SYSPLEX or SYSNAME available for use in ACS routines? Looking at the manuals, it is not clear. Thanks in advance. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe

Re: IEC143I 213-30

2009-12-02 Thread Don Leahy
Does IEBCOPY use the same enqueue strategy as the Binder? On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 14:29, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org wrote: I believe the Binder uses ISPF-style enqueues to allow OPEN for output with SHR access without any problems.  When needing updates with SHR and utilities that do not

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Kim Goldenberg
R.S. wrote: And Andersen Consulting is (was) not Arthur Andersen. According to the Accenture item in Wikipedia, It was once part of Arthur Andersen. See the article for more information as to how the name became Accenture. KG

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread HUTCHISON Gregory
You can change the name but crooks remain crooks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accenture Accenture originated as the business and technology consulting division of accounting firm Arthur Andersen. . . In 1989, that division split from Arthur Andersen and began using the name Andersen

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Ed Finnell
Depends on where the filler cap and timing chain is. I tried it on a 190d and it was real messy. Guess if you were careful could pour it down the dipstick... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: IEC143I 213-30

2009-12-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 12:51:15 -0700, Frank Swarbrick wrote: So perhaps a combination of the two is in order. Write to a temporary PDS during the translate and then use DISP=OLD on the copy from the temp PDS in to the actual PDS. Yet another frustating issue in going to z/OS. Oy. It's even

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 00:29:42 -0600, Chase, John jch...@ussco.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Hardly nonsense. On Win or Mac, when Firefox tells me it needs an update, I click on Update. A few minutes later, it tells me

Re: IEC143I 213-30

2009-12-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 15:21:03 -0500, Don Leahy wrote: Does IEBCOPY use the same enqueue strategy as the Binder? I believe IEBCOPY's strategy is, It's your foot and your gun ... Use DISP=OLD if you care. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 14:29, Joel C. Ewing wrote: I believe the Binder uses ISPF-style

Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?

2009-12-02 Thread Neil Duffee
On 2009-12-02 at 12:14 concerning Re: question on STORAGE function - TCB may become non-dispatchable?, John Chase jch...@uss...com wrote to IBM-Main : From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott [snip] why [snip] bypass normal CICS storage services [snip] sounds very much

Re: CA-MSM (was Re: Now is time for banks to replace ...)

2009-12-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 1 Dec 2009 15:10:57 -0600, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:58:23 -0600, John McKown wrote: CA is adopting this type of process as well with their Mainframe 2.0. I was at the demo and was impressed. I saw their demo at SHARE. I was impressed

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com writes: we had been called in to consult with small client/server startup that wanted to payment transactions on their server;

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread R.S.
Howard Brazee pisze: On 2 Dec 2009 00:17:46 -0800, r.skoru...@would you snip my address.com? (R.S.) wrote: Does anyone remember who Accenture was? Arthur Andersen, IIRC. No. Former name of Accenture was Andersen Consulting (www.ac.com), not Arthur Andersen. It was separate entity lng

Re: DS8700 Feature FlashCopy SE

2009-12-02 Thread R.S.
Hal Merritt pisze: Not sure what the 'SE' is, but we use Flashcopy on both of our DS8100's. SE = Space Efficient. That sugests something like IBM/STK Snapshot. It is *similar* to the snapshot. It is a little cumbersome, but it seems to work pretty well to take a PIT copy of any number of

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Well according to both my recollection, and Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accenture) Accenture started out as a division of Arthur Andersen, but split from Arthur Andersen in 1989, but was still part of the AWSC administrative entity. It wasn't until August of 2000 that Andersen

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
kgold...@gmail.com (Kim Goldenberg) writes: According to the Accenture item in Wikipedia, It was once part of Arthur Andersen. See the article for more information as to how the name became Accenture. long-winded related reply http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009q.html#77 -- 40+yrs

Re: IEC143I 213-30

2009-12-02 Thread Frank Swarbrick
On 12/1/2009 at 2:46 PM, in message 20091202171512.5d106f58...@smtp.patriot.net, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 4b14fd2e.6f0f.008...@efirstbank.com, on 12/01/2009 at 11:25 AM, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com said: Obviously one solution is to

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip-- P.S. Anybody doing any linked-list processing in 64-bit space? Having trouble comparing link keys to find insertion points. What kind of problems? unsnip

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
--snip- While this discussion has evolved into a discourse on HLLs and library support, I would like to make an observation. A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, Accenture was Arthur Anderson Consulting. My company contracted with

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip-- It can always be worse. I once saw a vendor's SE give a 10- or 20-page printout to a colleague of mine, who then sat at a keypunch for several hours punching cards to match the VERIFY and ZAP hex data for the dozens of PTFs

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Ivan Warren
Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: part of the redo of sio/tio/hio for xa (aka 811 for the nov78 date on the documents) was the enormous pathlengths in mvs ... being able to redrive queued i/o after completion of previous i/o. Hmphhh.. In the dept of other possible ways by the hardware to damage

Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly

2009-12-02 Thread Charles Mills
I've been using WS_FTP Pro between Windows XP and conventional z/OS datasets for some time now with no problems. I just tried to access some OMVS files and they are displaying very strangely in WS_FTP. If I leave the filter blank, then all directories and files have access permissions (you

Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly

2009-12-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:32:25 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: I've been using WS_FTP Pro between Windows XP and conventional z/OS datasets for some time now with no problems. I just tried to access some OMVS files and they are displaying very strangely in WS_FTP. If I leave the filter blank, then all

Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly

2009-12-02 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Wed, 2 Dec 2009 18:32:25 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: I've been using WS_FTP Pro between Windows XP and conventional z/OS datasets for some time now with no problems. I just tried to access some OMVS files and they are displaying very strangely in WS_FTP. If I leave the filter blank, then

Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly

2009-12-02 Thread Scott
Bill is correct- you need to set the host type. It would be nice if they made auto-detect a bit smarter. Firefox has the same issue. I have one profile for when I transfer datasets (auto-detect0, another profile for HFS/OMVS (UNIX). On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Bill Godfrey

Re: IEC143I 213-30

2009-12-02 Thread Tony Harminc
2009/12/2 Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com: BTW, I tried:    /bin/cp /some/file //'DATA.SET.NAME(MEMBER)' It gets an exclusive ENQ on SYSDSN 'DATA.SET.NAME'.  That's probably CRTL or LE behavior. Um, isn't that just a side effect of the DYNALLOC it doubtless does for the dataset? If you

Re: IEC143I 213-30

2009-12-02 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:33 -0600 on 12/02/2009, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: IEC143I 213-30: It's even worse than you've learned so far. If you use static (JCL DD DISP=OLD) allocation, the exclusive ENQ will be obtained at job initiation and persist through the last step that mentions the data set, regardless

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. i...@vmfacility.fr (Ivan Warren) writes: Hmphhh.. In the dept of other possible ways by the hardware to damage performance when preventing I/O queue processing

Re: Ipswitch WS_FTP Pro 12 not displaying OMVS directories correctly

2009-12-02 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. That's the solution exactly. I had looked around for something like that but I didn't find it. After I saw your two posts I looked a little harder. g I've got the session now configured as UNIX (standard) and it seems to work perfectly. I need to figure out how to clone it to one

Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture

2009-12-02 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Wed, 12/2/09, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net Subject: Re: Now is time for banks to replace core system according to Accenture To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 5:53 PM

Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37

2009-12-02 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Wed, 12/2/09, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net Subject: Re: Jes2 Converter abend d37 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 6:00 PM snip-- It can always be worse.