My lost Cobol years: Integrating legacy management • The Register

2010-11-25 Thread John McKown
OK, it's a holiday here in the States. But this was a fairly nice, short, reasonable take on reality. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/24/legacy_management/ -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread McKown, John
I have no life. That's why I'm working from home on the major holiday here in the U.S. But I have noticed that some multiple line WTO messages repeat the message id at the start of every line of the message, such as DFHSM's ARC0833I message, whereas other, such as IEC205I, do not have any

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote in message news:a6b9336cdb62bb46b9f8708e686a7ea005d5e05...@nrhmms8p02.uicnrh.dom. .. I have no life. That's why I'm working from home on the major holiday here in the U.S. But I have noticed that some multiple line WTO messages repeat the

zOSe and z10 - Urgent

2010-11-25 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
Hello, Can I run, zOSe 1.6 under a z10 machine? This is for a temporary migration, since customer has a z890 today and z10 announcement didn´t show zOSe as a supported system. Any real experiences? Thanks -- Carlos Bodra IBM zSeries Certified Specialist Sao Paulo - Brazil

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread McKown, John
Sorry, I was just curious about whether people thought having a message id on each line of the message would be useful. Who knows, someday I may have such a need and I'd like to have a good idea what would be useful for others. I am not suggesting that IBM or other vendor immediately start

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread McKown, John
Re: the OPERLOG. Unless I totally misunderstood, a DASD logstream cannot be shared between multiple systems. And it does not appear to me that I can make a system unique OPERLOG, one for each system. So I can't use an OPERLOG at all without a Coupling Facility and a parallel sysplex.

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread John P. Baker
John, A lot of the messages that use different message ids are setup to display the various messages conditionally and construct the WTO parameter list dynamically. Philosophically, I think that the approach that I would take would be that if a multi-line message incorporates all lines

Re: DFHSM MIGRATE MYSTERY

2010-11-25 Thread Joel C. Ewing
As long as I can remember HMIGRATE has had an ML2|MIGRATIONLEVEL2 option. We've been using it for over a decade for datasets that we know are unlikely to be needed and are large, or in cases where a dataset was recalled from ML2 and is no longer needed and we want to take advantage of non-I/O

Re: Philosophy question: repeat message ID on each line of an MLWTO?

2010-11-25 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 11/25/2010 7:35 AM, McKown, John wrote: Sorry, I was just curious about whether people thought having a message id on each line of the message would be useful. Who knows, someday I may have such a need and I'd like to have a good idea what would be useful for others. I am not suggesting that

Re: IEFBR14

2010-11-25 Thread Bill Fairchild
The first APAR on IEFBR14 of which I am aware occurred in the late 1960s in the very early days of OS/360. The error was that the program was not setting the return code to zero. I do not remember the exact date of the APAR, its fix, release number, etc. I would bet that Shmuel Metz does,

Re: IEFBR14

2010-11-25 Thread Martin Packer
Bill wrote: The first APAR on IEFBR14 of which I am aware occurred in the late 1960s in the very early days of OS/360. The error was that the program was not setting the return code to zero. I do not remember the exact date of the APAR, its fix, release number, etc. I would bet that

Re: IEFBR14

2010-11-25 Thread Charles Mills
They should have realized that the PDS directory 8-character limitation was too restrictive when they could not catalog it as IEFSR1515BR14. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Packer Sent: Thursday, November

Re: REXX address environments

2010-11-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlktimk8gdnepidhrssqbdcwpj_xr4anvg-gmr1a...@mail.gmail.com, on 11/24/2010 at 01:15 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: I think you are confusing REXX environments with REXX Host Command Environments. Then what do you mean by HCE? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: REXX address environments

2010-11-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Please send to the list of offline, not both. In 20101124194915.3apsz.22626.r...@hrndva-web15-z02, on 11/24/2010 at 07:49 PM, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com said: And before the first ISPF, there was SPF - I think it stood for Structured Programming Facility. The progression went

Re: REXX address environments

2010-11-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlkti=nz9ieq1tyizwkdyd2pagr6hzfnhpq-wz4w...@mail.gmail.com, on 11/24/2010 at 03:57 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: Just curious -- what does that mean? I don't know ISPF/PDF well enough to understand. 4 This is a data shift (4 This is a column shift --

Re: DITTO Alternative

2010-11-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca34308802...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com, on 11/24/2010 at 09:07 PM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com said: only tracks in allocated data sets and/or the VTOC can be displayed Is that stil true when the dsname is 44'04'X? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Regular Expressions (was: REXX address environments)

2010-11-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In blu149-w47ab9a6c83f241ad1d5161a1...@phx.gbl, on 11/24/2010 at 04:26 PM, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com said: some of the constructs of regular expressions. Better than nothing, but I still want full bore pattern matching, e.g., F R'(?!REG/b)[[:alpha]]{3}\d*' to find a string containing

Re: Regular Expressions (was: REXX address environments)

2010-11-25 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 11:20 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In blu149-w47ab9a6c83f241ad1d5161a1...@phx.gbl, on 11/24/2010 at 04:26 PM, Dave Salt ds...@hotmail.com said: some of the constructs of regular expressions. Better than nothing, but I still want full bore pattern

Re: REXX address environments

2010-11-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 November 2010 10:47, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In aanlktimk8gdnepidhrssqbdcwpj_xr4anvg-gmr1a...@mail.gmail.com, on 11/24/2010   at 01:15 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: I think you are confusing REXX environments with REXX Host Command

Re: zOS messages.. totally true... almost totally useless

2010-11-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%20101122101159.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 11/22/2010 at 10:11 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: o Place JCL error messages inline, as HLASM does, so the programmer would be spared the need to swap between JESYSMSGS and JESJCL. They used to, back in OS/360 and OS/VS2 R1

Re: IEFBR14

2010-11-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca34308802...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com, on 11/25/2010 at 04:59 PM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com said: I do not remember the exact date of the APAR, its fix, release number, etc. I would bet that Shmuel Metz does, though. :-) Alas, while I remember

Re: zOS messages.. totally true... almost totally useless

2010-11-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In listserv%201011201209565982.0...@bama.ua.edu, on 11/20/2010 at 12:09 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Properly; I understand an excess of implementation detail is an obstacle to fulfillment of a requirement: While we otherwise favor the requirement, your specific proposed

Re: Regular Expressions (was: REXX address environments)

2010-11-25 Thread zMan
On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: Better than nothing, but I still want full bore pattern matching, e.g.,  F R'(?!REG/b)[[:alpha]]{3}\d*' to find a string containing three letters and a string of digits, where the three letters are

Re: IEFBR14

2010-11-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On 25 November 2010 20:42, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca34308802...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com, on 11/25/2010   at 04:59 PM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com said: I do not remember the exact date of the APAR, its fix, release

Re: zOSe and z10 - Urgent

2010-11-25 Thread Timothy Sipples
Carlos, please inquire with your friendly IBM representative to ask for assistance. They may have a temporary workaround available to facilitate the migration. - - - - - Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect STG Value Creation Complex Deals Team IBM Growth Markets (Based in Singapore)

Re: IEFBR14

2010-11-25 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote in message news:20101126013902.8ab7bf58...@smtp.patriot.net... In 77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca34308802...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com , on 11/25/2010 at 04:59 PM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com said: I do not remember the