Re: One Less Mainframe Shop

2011-12-19 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of DKM Just over seven years ago, I was hired as the Financial System Administrator at my place of emplacement.  In my first interview, I was told how they were getting ready to pick a new ERP and get off their

Re: One Less Mainframe Shop

2011-12-18 Thread DKM
The actual start of the migration off the mainframe started shortly after the current one was purchased. It replaced two older systems was meant to be the last one. Still this was more than just a get off the mainframe push, this was a complete change in culture and philosophy. Up until

Re: One Less Mainframe Shop

2011-12-18 Thread Rick Fochtman
Mike Schwab wrote: On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 4:06 PM, DKM dkmf...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Just over seven years ago, I was hired as the Financial System Administrator at my place of emplacement. In my first interview, I was told how they were getting ready to pick a new ERP and get off their

Re: One Less Mainframe Shop

2011-12-17 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 12/16/2011 04:06 PM, DKM wrote: Just over seven years ago, I was hired as the Financial System Administrator at my place of emplacement. In my first interview, I was told how they were getting ready to pick a new ERP and get off their “archaic” mainframe. After I was hired, the IT director

Re: One Less Mainframe Shop

2011-12-17 Thread Mike Schwab
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 4:06 PM, DKM dkmf...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Just over seven years ago, I was hired as the Financial System Administrator at my place of emplacement.  In my first interview, I was told how they were getting ready to pick a new ERP and get off their “archaic” mainframe. 

Re: One Less Mainframe Shop

2011-12-17 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I can't help but think about my long time job at PH Mining when reading of companies taking 10 years to get off the mainframe. I was hired in 1985 to install MVS on a 3081 running 5 DOS guests and 2 VS1 guests under VM. I was a little concerned when I would go to a meeting with my boss

One Less Mainframe Shop

2011-12-16 Thread DKM
Just over seven years ago, I was hired as the Financial System Administrator at my place of emplacement.  In my first interview, I was told how they were getting ready to pick a new ERP and get off their “archaic” mainframe.  After I was hired, the IT director at the time told me with glee how

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-07 Thread R.S.
Timothy Sipples pisze: No, it's not at all misleading (CA's prediction that 2009 shipped incremental mainframe MIPS will exceed all installed mainframe MIPS in 2000). For at least one simple reason: nobody buys mainframe MIPS to let them sit idle. They are the most highly utilized CPUs on the

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-07 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 6 Apr 2009 22:43:03 -0700, Timothy Sipples wrote: No, it's not at all misleading (CA's prediction that 2009 shipped incremental mainframe MIPS will exceed all installed mainframe MIPS in 2000)... Thus MIPS, at least in this context, is an entirely legitimate and proper way to view mainframe

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-07 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:24:00 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote: That statistic cited in the above article (and not from IBM) is just amazing to me: more (new, incremental) MIPS forecast to be sold in 2009 than were *installed* in 2000. Wow. I wonder how 2009 compares to years past in that regard. Is

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-07 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:38:12 -0500 Eric Chevalier said: On 6 Apr 2009 22:43:03 -0700, Timothy Sipples wrote: No, it's not at all misleading (CA's prediction that 2009 shipped incremental mainframe MIPS will exceed all installed mainframe MIPS in 2000)... Thus MIPS, at least in this context, is an

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-07 Thread Eric Chevalier
On 7 Apr 2009 10:24:37 -0700, A. Harry Williams wrote: a) desktop machines are often powered down at night Why did you raise this straw-man issue again? Please go back and re-read my original post: the categories I mentioned EXCLUDED desktop PCs. Eric ps: role, not roll -- Eric Chevalier

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-07 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
We had a job title discussion this morning. We are known as 'server adminstrators' although we tend to the mainframe. I don't care what you call me. Give me meaningful work and a paycheck. MIPS - FLOPS - GHz - who really cares. My mainframe sucks at word processing. My PC sucks at batch

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-07 Thread Howard Brazee
On 7 Apr 2009 10:34:43 -0700, et...@tulsagrammer.com (Eric Chevalier) wrote: ps: role, not roll I suppose Unix could be rolling. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-07 Thread Rich Greenberg
In article of4f7f3df6.0f0e87c7-on85257591.00666aca-85257591.0066b...@us.crawco.com you write: My $.0115 - adjusted my .02 cents for the market. Your units are off. Your comparing dollars to cents. I think you meant to say: My $.0115 - adjusted my 2 cents for the market. BTW, Hi from

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-06 Thread R.S.
Timothy Sipples pisze: [...] That statistic cited in the above article (and not from IBM) is just amazing to me: more (new, incremental) MIPS forecast to be sold in 2009 than were *installed* in 2000. Wow. Probably the same can be said about desktop PC's. No wow. My HDD (in PC) is approx 1000

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-06 Thread Timothy Sipples
No, it's not at all misleading (CA's prediction that 2009 shipped incremental mainframe MIPS will exceed all installed mainframe MIPS in 2000). For at least one simple reason: nobody buys mainframe MIPS to let them sit idle. They are the most highly utilized CPUs on the planet, running an average

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-03 Thread Timothy Sipples
And then there's this: http://www.esj.com/articles/2009/03/31/Big-Iron-Bucks-Trend.aspx There's a really interesting experiment going on here. A few shops every so often depart the mainframe, a few shops acquire them for the first time (including to run z/OS -- I personally did some work in two

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-03 Thread P S
On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Timothy Sipples e99...@jp.ibm.com wrote: snip So this is a marketplace contest of sorts to see who's got the most efficiency (on a quality-adjusted basis) in their IT service delivery. There are so many very savvy IT organizations betting heavily that the modern

One less mainframe shop

2009-04-02 Thread Steve Horein
For those that keep track, yesterday I had the sad duty of shutting down our z/OS environment for the last time. Ours wasn't a big shop with a single z890 running 2 LPARs (one Production and one sandbox). To help reduce costs for the last few months, we reduced capacity from a model 240 to

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-02 Thread Howard Brazee
If I retired right now, I would be able to work part time until our mainframe was gone, and then I would be out of a job. So I am training in our new system, expecting that when the mainframe goes away, I can continue working full time. I don't know enough to have any idea whether I could

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-02 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Message - From: Steve Horein steve.hor...@harcourt.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: One less mainframe shop For those that keep track, yesterday I had the sad duty of shutting down our z/OS environment

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-02 Thread Ron Wells
Sorry to here another is down the tubes ... Wish IBM would wake up and make z/OS more affordable but that would cause waves .. put too many security people out of work .. lol -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains

Re: One less mainframe shop

2009-04-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip Steve Horein wrote:For those that keep track, yesterday I had the sad duty of shutting down our z/OS environment for the last time. Ours wasn't a big shop with a single z890 running 2 LPARs (one Production and one