I go off the air for a week to drive a few hours and goof off at the beach in
the dead of winter, and (almost) all the heavy hitters come out to play in
this thread.
After all the to-and-fro, Peter Relson opines:
It's detailed, but not overly complex.
Damn I love this list sometimes - diamonds
Hello
We have a KSDS VSAM File which is of record length in production as 200 bytes
and we modified the VSAM file to 250 record length . We then copied old
records to the new records.
There is a online screen which updates the file and once that happen the file
is updated with low values
I think some more details would be helpful
1) What is the error you are getting?
Supply all error messages and codes
2) What version of z/OS?
3) What is reading the file? CICS, IMS, COBOL? Please provide release levels
Show any file definitions, for example if COBOL provide the
What abend do you encounter get?
Your assembler module might get into trouble because the read-in area, where
the record is moved to, might be too small. This can lead to an overlay of the
data behind this area (the extraneous 50 bytes) or, if you cross a page
boundary, to an abend (S0C4 most
Ron Thomas wrote:
We have a KSDS VSAM File which is of record length in production as 200 bytes
and we modified the VSAM file to 250 record length . We then copied old
records to the new records.
What is the VSAM Dataset structure? Is it indexed? With what utility/program
did you used to do
Phil
First of all, the following PC-ss code :
L R5,ASCBASXBascb extension
USING ASXB,R5
MVC SRQEACEE,ASXBSENV addr of ACEE in secondary space
Will *NOT* work as you expect if AR5 is not primed with the correct ALET for
the SASN (regardless of the fact
...can lead to confusion as eye-catcher validation can be correct with you
looking at the correct one
Should be
...can lead to confusion as eye-catcher validation can be correct with you
looking at the incorrect one
Rob Scott
Lead Developer
Rocket Software
77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 .
I think the problem was because my JES2PARM member was not setup perfectly
as my production systems are. But I have modified the changes now and will
test it .
Thanks for all help .
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 4:50 AM, Ed Finnell
000248cce9f3-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
NASA had a
I have formatted new couple dataset and used SETXCF command to make it in
production . But as we don't have new hardware, we can not use this
feature. Thanks for all help.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
wrote:
We have one basic sysplex, i.e. no CF,
Bottom line: No. When you read a record from _any_ data set, VSAM or not,
you get an entire _record_. There is no way in VSAM or other access methods
to say: Get the record, but only return the first 200 bytes to my program.
Note: The above assertion is only for z/OS legacy data sets. It does not
Hi There,
Which process determines the profile of a member in a PDSE (Library) data set.
When one browses the PDSE, views the member and enter PROFILE on the command
line of the member, it brings up some attributes. How are these attributes
determined:
Eg.
DECKS (FIXED - 80)RECOVERY
On 6/27/2014 5:44 AM, Buckton, T. (Theo) wrote:
Hi There,
Which process determines the profile of a member in a PDSE (Library) data set.
Better question: What determines the profile ...; there is no 'process'.
There are some default profiles provided with the system. Generally,
the low level
Buckton, T. (Theo) wrote:
Which process determines the profile of a member in a PDSE (Library) data set.
When one browses the PDSE, views the member and enter PROFILE on the command
line of the member, it brings up some attributes. How are these attributes
determined:
These attributes came
KSDS = Keyed Sequential Data Set, so it is obviously keyed (= INDEXED)
VSAM KSDS data sets are always variable length by definition. Setting
average record length = maximum record length indicates an intent to
write same length records and that information is used for space
calculations, but
I am going to add my $0.02 to the other responses already posted.
1. When it is stated Lowlevel qualifier that is the last part of the data set
name, in this case, DECKS. So any data set that ends in DECKS, e.g.;
WALA.WALA.DING.DONG.DECKS, ONE.TWO.THREE.DECKS, or
Joel C. Ewing wrote:
VSAM KSDS data sets are always variable length by definition. Setting
average record length = maximum record length indicates an intent to write
same length records and that information is used for space calculations, but
each record still has its own length value, is
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 07:11:19 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Note some attributes may be overridden/locked by your ISPF configuration
table. For example, I have overridden site wide these attributes: RECOVERY
(make it ON) and STATS (FORCE it ON).
NFS and FTP follow ISPF conventions for
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
NFS and FTP follow ISPF conventions for member ENQ, and NFS at least (I
haven't tested FTP) provides member statistics. Do they likewise respect the
DSN profile setting of STATS?
Excellent questions! I have now tested FTP by uploading a text file to a PDS
member which
I doubt it, the profiles are an internal ISPF thing and their definitions saved
in the user's personal profile dataset. Which/whose settings should FTP use?
Kees.
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 08:13:39 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
NFS and FTP follow ISPF conventions for member ENQ, and NFS at least (I
haven't tested FTP) provides member statistics. Do they likewise respect the
DSN profile setting of STATS?
Excellent questions! I have now tested FTP by
On 06/27/2014 07:11 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Buckton, T. (Theo) wrote:
Which process determines the profile of a member in a PDSE (Library) data
set.
When one browses the PDSE, views the member and enter PROFILE on the command
line of the member, it brings up some attributes. How are
On 2014-06-27, at 07:21, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM wrote:
I doubt it, the profiles are an internal ISPF thing and their definitions
saved in the user's personal profile dataset. Which/whose settings should FTP
use?
Are you saying that if multiple users have write access to a PDS
for
Vernooij, CP wrote:
I doubt it, the profiles are an internal ISPF thing and their definitions
saved in the user's personal profile dataset. Which/whose settings should FTP
use?
Yes, you are right. I'm not sure what settings FTP is using, but at least when
a member is updated the stats are
Yes!. In our group, we all have activated an 'initial macro' that sets for
certain datasets some of the attributes we require, like STATS, AUTOSAVE OFF
PROMPT (to avoid PF3's unintentionally saving modifications).
About what you call IBM chaos: if you look at the history of these features, it
SETPROG EXIT,DELETE,EXITNAME=IEFUJI,MODNAME=IEFUJI
As has been pointed out, the exit name is not IEFUJI.
It might be SYS.IEFUJI, it might be SYSSTC.IEFUJI, it might be
SYSTSO.IEFUJI (or others).
This is all documented and depends on how you defined IEFUJI with your
SMFPRMxx definition.
Peter
You could call me Ray, or you could call me Ray Jay, or you could call me Ray
Jay Johnson. But
you doesn't has to call me Johnson.
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Subject: Re: IEFUJI problem, preventing TSO
On 06/27/2014 07:53 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
Joel C. Ewing wrote:
VSAM KSDS data sets are always variable length by definition. Setting
average record length = maximum record length indicates an intent to
write same length records and that information is used for space
So my supposition/belief is that ESAR followed by using
that ASID should get me back to the correct address space.
It has been stated correctly in many of the appends that this
supposition/belief is wrong because it is not necessarily the case (and
apparently is not the case) that home =
No. If the PC routine does not require APF authorization, then the IKJTSOnn
AUTH... entry isn't relevant. As an example, the STORAGE macro does a PC to
do its magic, not an SVC. But a program which uses the STORAGE macro
doesn't need to be in the list(s) mentioned. Only programs which are linked
Thanks let me get to the point
The program that creates the PC rtn
Is the AUTHCMD/PGM so I cann't use IKJEFTSR
However I am thinking the PC rtn might be able to
Thanks
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On Jun 27, 2014, at 10:30 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
wrote:
No. If the PC
If you use MFM and you are having it influence your tuning LLA/VLF, I'd like to
discuss some items off list.
Since I am in digest mode for IBM-Main, you can contact me via this email
address:
S thompson 17 at humana dot com (humans should know to remove spaces, etc)
Regards,
Steve Thompson
Are you trying to say that you have a TSO command processor that is attempting
to define and own a PC routine using LXRES, ETDEF, ETCRE and ETCON ???
Rob Scott
Lead Developer
Rocket Software
77 Fourth Avenue . Suite 100 . Waltham . MA 02451-1468 . USA
Tel: +1.781.684.2305
Email: rsc...@rs.com
Rob,,
I can't use the TSO service facility IKJEFTSR ( I would like issue certain
non-authorized TSO commands) because my program is in IKJEFTSOxx
AUTHPGM/CMD
I know that PC rtn's are separate entities so I am looking for the PC rtn
to use IKJEFTSR
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If you have a PC-owning service-providing server address space, then you could
probably dispense with AUTHPGM/CMD/TSF entries completely and keep your client
code in normal problem state key 8.
Your non-auth client can ask the server address space to perform any authorized
functions on its
Why cant I issue simple TSO command via IKJEFTSR because my code is
authorized I don't understand the idea behind it
I would like to keep everything local to my TSO address space I am not
trying to do anything kooky I have a recovery rtn and MVS message interfere
with it so I am just trying to do
It is well documented in the TSO manuals that IKEFTSR will not allow authorized
programs to issue unauthorized commands.
All authorized command/program activity in TSO runs under a parallel authorized
TMP jobstep - running commands and programs that were not designed (or tested)
to be invoked
VSAM reads/updates records in CONTROLINTERVALs (CIs) but I/O's whole
CIs, not just the records. If the records are fixed length, the CIs will
contain two 3-byte RDFs (Record Definition Fields) followed by a 4-byte
CIDF (CI Definition Field). If they are variable length, the CIs will
contain an
Rob
With all due to respect and I mean that sincerely I have number of TSO
commands that would make life easier it boggles my mind that because I am
authorized I can't use them
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Behalf Of Rob Scott
Kees is correct. FTP doesn't support ISPF profiles. It was specifically
modified to handle user data area for the member in the PDS directory.
ISPF editor is just an editor. Why the OUCH when every other editor (including
UNIX) allows you to change the edit settings? If you want a dev
I hate to give a sloppy response, but 'at one time' an installation could
create a default ISPF profile called in whenever a user edited a data set
that did not already have a matching LLQ in the personal profile. This
default profile would be stored somewhere in the ISPTLIB concatenation
with
Rob Scott wrote, in part:
As far as I can tell, there is no mention of any method for your server to be
notified if an address space has terminated whilst a request for it is still
in your queue.
Yes, we do handle that, and I think we'd be OK in this case, if I got the
addressing right.
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:51:51 +, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM wrote:
Yes!. In our group, we all have activated an 'initial macro' that sets for
certain datasets some of the attributes we require, like STATS, AUTOSAVE OFF
PROMPT (to avoid PF3's unintentionally saving modifications).
And I
Why not use FASTAUTH after building the ACEE?
You could also contact IBM and see if they have any RACF trace tools to help
find your bottleneck with AUTH.
On 27 Jun 2014, at 17:48, Phil Smith p...@voltage.com wrote:
Rob Scott wrote, in part:
As far as I can tell, there is no mention of any
Anyway. When the DB2 issue surfaced (new function), one of my first
attempts was to do a REQUEST=AUTH:
RACROUTE REQUEST=AUTH,APPL=APPLNM,CLASS=CLASSNML, X
USERID=SRQEAUSR,X
Making life easier for programmers is not the operating system's prime
directive. It has other things to worry about like being secure and staying up.
:-)
On 27 Jun 2014, at 17:18, MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net wrote:
Rob
With all due to respect and I mean that sincerely I have
No. The recovery dataset is under the original user's prefix.
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On 2014-06-27, at 07:21, Vernooij, CP (SPLXM)
Does anyone have any algorithms or code for converting Local Time to UTC Time
and vice versa taking Daylight Savings Time into account that they would be
willing to share?
My preference would be Assembler but COBOL, PL/I, Fortran, Pascal, etc would be
acceptable.
Note, implementations using
Rob Scott wrote:
Why not use FASTAUTH after building the ACEE?
Building -- via what mechanism? I can't just create one from whole cloth:
RACF will allow that, TSS won't. I tried that. If I can create one in a
relatively low-overhead way and then do an AUTH on that, that would win. All I
care
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:55:17 +, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
As far as NOWTPMSG, it might be useful to investigate if it is *supported* to
change the UPT settings manually - see UPTWTP and UPTNCOM in IKJUPT.
They are documented as being part of the programming interface,
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:29:01 -0400, MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net wrote:
Why cant I issue simple TSO command via IKJEFTSR because my code is
authorized I don't understand the idea behind it
I would like to keep everything local to my TSO address space I am not
trying to do anything kooky I
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:01:36 -0400, MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net wrote:
Rob,,
I can't use the TSO service facility IKJEFTSR ( I would like issue certain
non-authorized TSO commands) because my program is in IKJEFTSOxx
AUTHPGM/CMD
I know that PC rtn's are separate entities so I am
Under RACF I would use RACROUTE REQUEST=VERIFY,ENV=CREATE.
I am not familiar with the differences with TSS.
If the REQUEST=AUTH method is too slow then I would use the FASTAUTH check in
the PC-ss with an ACEEALET of two as described earlier.
On 27 Jun 2014, at 19:09, Phil Smith
Do you need a point solution, i.e., one for a particular longitude and
latitude? Or dxo you need a general one that is parametric in
location?
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
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Rob Scott wrote:
Under RACF I would use RACROUTE REQUEST=VERIFY,ENV=CREATE.
Ah, ok, sure, makes sense. I'll try that and then FASTAUTH using that ACEE (and
then ENVIR=DELETE), and CEE (sorry) how fast it is!
If the REQUEST=AUTH method is too slow then I would use the FASTAUTH check in
the
I'm starting authorized APF AUTHPGM Authcmd and like to issue certain TSO CDMA
via IKJEFTSR
And am unable because I'm in the AUTHPGM section of IKJTSOxx
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On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote:
On 27 June 2014 10:38, Micheal Butz
Okay thanks
It still doesn't make sense to me
If inadvertently did something I am already authorized
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On Jun 27, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Walt Farrell walt.farr...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 11:01:36 -0400, MichealButz michealb...@comcast.net
wrote:
Rob,,
I
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Okay thanks
It still doesn't make sense to me
If inadvertently did something I am already authorized
That's the point: You could do something you would never be explicitly
authorized to do.
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:39:10 -0400, Micheal Butz michealb...@comcast.net
wrote:
Okay thanks
It still doesn't make sense to me
If inadvertently did something I am already authorized
Yes, but you're trying to run code that is not yours, is not supposed to run
authorized, and has not been
What am I missing
WHY can't you use IKJEFTSR?
Dan
-Original Message-
From: MichealButz
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 11:01 AM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns
Rob,,
I can't use the TSO service facility IKJEFTSR ( I would like issue
Hello all, I am trying to learn more about crypto, so I am reading the manual
on generating certificates and public/private key pairs. The manual says that
if I specify ICSF in the RACDCERT GENCERT command the key pair is generated
using software and the resulting private key is stored in the
Never mind ;-)
After a quick test I now see that IKJEFTSR gets return code x'14' reason
code x'3C'...
An authorized program or command requested that an unauthorized function be
invoked.
Dan
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Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 4:59 PM
To: IBM Mainframe
Because I aurhorized and in authcmd
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On Jun 27, 2014, at 4:59 PM, DanD mvs-j...@sympatico.ca wrote:
What am I missing
WHY can't you use IKJEFTSR?
Dan
-Original Message- From: MichealButz
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 11:01 AM Newsgroups:
On 6/27/2014 8:55 AM, Rob Scott wrote:
It is well documented in the TSO manuals that IKEFTSR will not allow authorized
programs to issue unauthorized commands.
And this seems, at least in principle, roughly analogous to the abend306
that occurs when privileged code attempts to LOAD a module
Micheal,
What are you trying to do?
Maybe there's a better way to design your command.
Dan
-Original Message-
From: Micheal Butz
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 5:46 PM Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Subject: Re: IKJTSOxx Auth pgm cmds PC rtns
Because I aurhorized and in authcmd
John,
I am in the process of writing a program that is reading several files.
Some of the files have dates in local and some have dates in UTC.
I want to be able to move between the two time bases as needed.
I don't envision the program reading files from differing time zones at the
same time,
Your recollection is correct. Specifically, the profile is named ZDEFAULT.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
wrote:
I hate to give a sloppy response, but 'at one time' an installation could
create a default ISPF profile called in whenever a user edited
DST complicates your solution even further. While the whole of the U.S.
switches (or not!!!) at the same moment, other countries switch on
different dates. I think your solution will have to be table driven with
an entry for every country and for every U.S. state.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Ah yes, ZDEFAULT. The 'setup process' I referred to is the ISPF
Configuration Utility, which allows the installation to control all sorts
of options. That dialog is a more recent mechanism than ZDEFAULT, and much
more powerful.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 21:29:30 +, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
Hello all, I am trying to learn more about crypto, so I am reading the manual
on generating certificates and public/private key pairs. The manual says that
if I specify ICSF in the RACDCERT GENCERT command the key pair is
Chuck,
You can use the language environment callable service CEEGMTO which
would give you the difference between the local system time and Greenwich
Mean Time (GMT).
Eastern Standard Time (EST) = GMT-5
Pacific Standard Time (PST) = GMT-8
Central Standard Time (CST) = GMT-6
Mountain Standard
On 6/27/2014 at 06:37 PM, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote:
I think your solution will have to be table driven with
an entry for every country and for every U.S. state.
Such a table already exists.
http://www.iana.org/time-zones
Mark Post
I already have a mechanism to determine the UTC offset of my local time.
Further, I'm not against calling CEE modules, but at the moment there are no
CEE modules used by my program and I don't want to start now unless I
absolutely, no other way to do it, have to.
Furthermore, my program doesn't
Yes, if I didn't have to take DST into account I'd already be home free.
Charles (Chuck) Hardee
Senior Systems Engineer/Database Administration
CCG Information Technology
Thermo Fisher Scientific
300 Industry Drive
Pittsburgh, PA 15275
Direct: 724-517-2633
FAX: 412-490-9230
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 15:21:54 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
Do you need a point solution, i.e., one for a particular longitude and
latitude? Or dxo you need a general one that is parametric in
location?
And, likewise, does he need a solution for a particular time, or a
general one that is
If it were only that easy. Parts of Texas are in two different time zones.
I believe at least one other state is split also. Some states in Australia
implement DST while others don't. Russia spans multiple time zones while
all of China is administered in one.
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On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Hardee, Chuck
chuck.har...@thermofisher.com wrote:
John,
I am in the process of writing a program that is reading several files.
Some of the files have dates in local and some have dates in UTC.
I want to be able to move between the two time bases as needed.
I needed to know is there any thing we can do for this file so that doesn't
write anything beyond 150 bytes , so that the length of the record read will be
= 150
Thanks
Ron T
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We are getting abend while reading the record in the assembler code, the error
is due to the length mismatch.
Thanks
Ron T
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The answer from John McKown was
Bottom line: No. When you read a record from _any_ data set, VSAM or not, you
get an entire _record_. There is no way in VSAM or other access methods to
say: Get the record, but only return the first 200 bytes to my program.
Joel C. Ewing wrote:
VSAM KSDS data
Ron,
You may need to step through the code with a testing facility and see why the
code is not doing what you need.
I think there are several products that could help you debug this issue. But
VSAM just does what it does. If you need to have the READ/WRITE process
differently then you will
I will only tell you that you should think of the next guy that is going to
have to maintain this code. Do him or her and yourself a favor, use the
system provided services before writing code that may or may not be correct
in the future. I just went thru a similar exercise... Which was
Just one more thought.
The reason it is very helpful to show this information is:
If the code that is executing is only checking for some but not ALL of the
status codes from VSAM - the Length Mismatch may be incorrect. How is that so?
Take the following example
In COBOL I code the IO
Indiana you have to go by county. Several counties have unique DST
time zone history.
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:46 PM, retired mainframer
retired-mainfra...@q.com wrote:
If it were only that easy. Parts of Texas are in two different time zones.
I believe at least one other state is split
Those parts of the U.S. that honor DST (there are places that don't,
e.g. parts of Arizona) do not all switch at the same moment. They all
switch on the same date, but the switch is at 0200 local time and thus
the moment of switch is staggered across the time zones. So, if DST is
to be taken
I recall in particular that in the 1970's West Lafayette, Indiana in
Tippecanoe Co. kept a GMT offset of -0500 year round and transitioned at
the dates of change between EST (on Indianapolis time) and CDT (on
Chicago time), with no numeric change on the clocks.
Joel C. Ewing
On 06/27/2014
I don't know whether your language options extend to java, but if they
do Joda Time appears to do exactly what you are looking for:
http://www.joda.org/joda-time/
Even if you can't use Java, it is open source so it might provide
code/algorithm ideas.
On 28/06/2014 4:06, Hardee, Chuck wrote:
On 06/27/2014 08:58 PM, Ron Thomas wrote:
I needed to know is there any thing we can do for this file so that doesn't
write anything beyond 150 bytes , so that the length of the record read will
be = 150
Thanks
Ron T
I don't under stand the problem here.
If the goal is never to write a
What abend and what diagnostic feedback data are you getting? Is your
AREA's AREALEN in your RPL large enough for the new RECSZ? Check your
MSGAREA (length MSGLEN) to see your VSAM feedback (RC, reason) info.
Code a SHOWCB (with FIELDS=FDBK and whatever else you want, and with
MSGAREA= and
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