Rob, no the key does not exist in the CKDS but is received as part of a request
from a client browser in this string:
123456
The key tag shows the 16 hexadecimal digits of a single length DES key that
must be used to encrypt the response. The browser randomly
The Generation data set is in a deferred roll-in status when it is allocated.
It becomes part of the rolled in generations during the deallocation phase.
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Sent: Thursday,
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 09:17:25 -0800, John Mattson wrote:
>...
> A third possibility which is kludgy would be to create each new DS with
>a unique DATETIME in the DSN and then do the catalog list and search for
>the oldest date. No roll-off, no problems with new GDGs coming in.
>
Alas, JCL
Gil,
You can use the symbols for DATE and HOUR and so forth. I think it is
documented z/OS 2.1.0>z/OS MVS>z/OS MVS Initialization and Tuning
Reference>Overview>Sharing parmlib definitions>What are system symbols?>Dynamic
system symbols
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>RECEIVE is extraordinarily ill-suited to automation:
>o The user has no a priori control over which spool file will be RECEIVEd.
>o The user must be present to reply to a prompt.
That is very true. JES2 simply gives to you what it seemed to be the first. I
could not find
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 10:58:01 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:
>Gil,
>You can use the symbols for DATE and HOUR and so forth. I think it is
>documented z/OS 2.1.0>z/OS MVS>z/OS MVS Initialization and Tuning
>Reference>Overview>Sharing parmlib definitions>What are system
>symbols?>Dynamic system
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 12:18:23 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
>
>>RECEIVE is extraordinarily ill-suited to automation:
>>o The user has no a priori control over which spool file will be RECEIVEd.
>>o The user must be present to reply to a prompt.
>
>That is very true. JES2 simply gives to you
this is re: z/os 2.2
can anybody throw some light on the USAGE of the "tapehlq" parm in IGGCATxx?
and please, nobody say "it specifies the hlq for a tape volume catalog" [and,
btw, the default is SYS1] -- i have made an effort here, consulted the 2.2
init & tuna REFERENCE , even
Can also be accomplished with PDS[85] command or StarTool product.
.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
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On 2015-11-19 15:04, R.S. wrote:
> W dniu 2015-11-19 o 22:42, John Mattson pisze:
>> Someone was asking about deleting all members of a pds. I just noticed
>> that DFSort has a bunch of "samples" one of which includes how to use
>> ICETOOL to delete all members of a PDS. Hope this helps. Lots
The OUTPUT command (at least here) shows only Held output. XMITted files must
be in (non-held) Output. If I try to see my file via OUTPUT, I get
IKJ56339I NO HELD OUTPUT FOR JOB my-userid
.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program
Yes.
I have a customer running OS/390 on an MP2000. We expect them to be off
by the end of the year. We spent many an hour trying to find a way to
move them to a current platform before they decided to put more dollars
into their off-platform conversion.
I have a customer running OS/390 on
A 4300 system was recently decommissioned out West, and the system was
broken apart. I think the processor and DASD went to a collector. The
card handling equipment will be coming east to me - real S/360 era
stuff that still works.
It seems the 4300 line were perhaps IBM's best machines - they
You could collect all the FMIDs you want to install (in/excluding e.g.
Omegamon etc.) into a single SOURCEID - and then install these FMIDs via
an "APPLY SOURCEID()". CP
Neubert, Kevin wrote:
Not elegant, but perhaps workable?
Build your list:
LIST FUNCTIONS SYSMOD.
Your list sans
Like us, Phil is a vendor. For a vendor, the relevant questions are not "do
any of these things exist somewhere and powered on?" but rather
- Are any of our customers running box X? (Should be a question that can be
answer by better means than this listserve.)
- Are there any customers (prospects
How about the Halon system? Do you have one of those?
Charles
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Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 3:20 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Earlier than a z9?
Doh,
Not elegant, but perhaps workable?
Build your list:
LIST FUNCTIONS SYSMOD.
Your list sans OMEGAMON:
APPLY CHECK FORFMID (<<>>).
See "Figure 3. Combining SYSMOD selection operands on the APPLY Command," in
"Chapter 3. The APPLY command" of "SMP/E for z/OS Commands (SA23-2275)" for a
nice
In <9286832208987587.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on
11/19/2015
at 11:55 AM, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said:
>Why is it preferable to fail directly rather than to (attempt to)
>fall back to an equivalent alternative service?
Why are you
I can see the relevant fields only on O(utput) screen, not on ST(atus). There
are actually two significant fields: Dest, which is the target userid, and
Status, which shows 'USER'. I believe that 'USER' will prevent a JES2 defined
destid from hijacking the output.
.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
I’ve had a need from an application for processing files in a GDG in FIFO
order. Way back when an application came to me with the requirement. He was
receiving “N” number of File Transfers over night and needed to process them
the next day in FIFO order.
I took some existing code I found
At 14:35 + on 11/19/2015, Jousma, David wrote about Re: SMPE
apply excluding certain FMID's?:
Do you really want/need to segregate applying maintenance for the
Omegamon suite, or during a maintenance cycle do you simply want to
more easily identify the relevant HOLDs just for >Omegamon?
I am involved as a vendor of software for the VSE market, and as a
vendor of systems programming services and also outsourcing for z/OS,
z/VM and z/VSE.
Some of our vendor products have to be coded to run on both Integrated
Servers and FSI Flex boxes because we still have customers running
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 11:18:36 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> on 11/18/2015 at 03:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin said:
>
>>Sophistry!
>
>PKB.
>
>>If the user is not authorized,
>
>There's more than one user.
>
??? How many users does a job have?
>>it's de facto unavailable and should be treated
How about TSO output command to list all waiting files?
ITschak
ITschak Mugzach
Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments Professional
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 12:18:23
I have installed the CBTTAPE.ORG utility PDSCLEAN for both PDS and PDSE
datasets an it works very well. File 693.
Lizette
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>From: Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
>Sent: Nov 19, 2015 3:51 PM
>To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>Subject: Re:
Doh, should have included these photos.
http://imgur.com/a/C6zsx
I'm sure you all will enjoy them. And yes he got those HUGE DASDs
as-well, can't wait to hear one of those spin up :)
Ignore the photos of the guts of the 4341, I was tasked with taking the
section of power-supply off the main CPU
Someone was asking about deleting all members of a pds. I just noticed
that DFSort has a bunch of "samples" one of which includes how to use
ICETOOL to delete all members of a PDS. Hope this helps. Lots of other
neat things in here too.
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T794
File 182 on CBT tape contains PDS command. It's a great tool. Can delete or
delete by mask add space, copy, merge and fix. The commercial version is
Startools from Serena. Has saved my bacon numerous times.
In a message dated 11/19/2015 3:43:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
In z/OS V1R12, DFSMS access method services (IDCAMS) adds a new wildcard
option to the DELETE command, which lets you delete all members of a PDS or
PDSE.
https://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_1.13.0/com.ibm.zos.r13.idak100/amspdse12.htm%23amspdse12
On 19 November 2015 at 21:42,
Is anyone running on real hardware that's older than a z9? Off-list replies
would be fine-not trying to embarrass anyone, trying to figure out whether
there's any real work taking place on such ancient iron. Connor, you don't need
to reply :)
On 2015-11-19 14:54, Ed Finnell wrote:
> File 182 on CBT tape contains PDS command. It's a great tool. Can delete or
> delete by mask add space, copy, merge and fix. The commercial version is
> Startools from Serena. Has saved my bacon numerous times.
>
STOW DCB,,I
I believe (or
Heh I am going to reply because it doesn't pertain to my system.
Although its not running any longer I knew of an s/390 that ran up until
a couple of months ago and before that the company was running a 4341
(aka s/370) until 1999 when they upgraded to the s/390 because of Y2K
(because IBM
W dniu 2015-11-19 o 22:42, John Mattson pisze:
Someone was asking about deleting all members of a pds. I just noticed
that DFSort has a bunch of "samples" one of which includes how to use
ICETOOL to delete all members of a PDS. Hope this helps. Lots of other
neat things in here too.
On 2015-11-17 15:23, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
> An XMITted file sits in the JES output queue in a designated class (usually
> B) with the recipient's userid as DEST. ...
>
So administrators must be careful not to assign User IDs that might
match plausible DESTs.
Can anyone tell me how to
I'm still recommending virtual machinee with customized downlevel
browser, with downlevel Java, with necessary customization.
Used solely for HMC and other appliances connectivity (like Broceade
FICON switches and directors).
It won't stop working suddelny just after another update. It is (yes!)
It remains cataloged. It is just no longer part of the gdg. Good
thing those thousand or two files were just a few tracks.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:59 AM, J O Skip Robinson
wrote:
> I haven't experimented with this, but going with NOSCRATCH is likely to cause
> big
W dniu 2015-11-19 o 01:02, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On 2015-11-18 16:17, R.S. wrote:
W dniu 2015-11-18 o 22:05, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
Sophistry! If the user is not authorized, it's de facto unavailable and
should be treated as such.
I dare to disagree.
The service is up and ready. It does not
All, I don't think this can be done after RTFMing, but wanted to make sure no
one has some trick up their sleeves. Just received my z/OS 2.2 serverpac, and
this time around, decided to include my Omegamon suite of products with it.
The question I have, is while my group manages the SMPe
Hardee, Chuck wrote:
>Try adding: queue "RESTORE"
>Just before the queue of the "END" command.
While I have NOT tested out that REXX program, I believe it should work.
I think Leopold should also add TRACE A to his REXX program for better
debugging.
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 23:09:44 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
>At 08:32 -0600 on 11/18/2015, Tom Marchant wrote about Re: Fastest
>way to read OLDEST GDG entry:
>
>>you might want to make sure the GDG is defined with NOSCRATCH
>>before doing this.
>
>Note that NOSCRATCH will (I think) not only
Hi, all
I simply wanted to automize the receiving of a lot of XMIT-files in
zOS-unix-shell ( not TSO)
Last but not least my problem could be broken down to following
terminal-input-problem with the RECEIVE-command:
rexx-script:
parse arg indsn outdsn
address tso "PROFILE PROMPT"
queue
Leopold,
This is purely a guess, but the last line of the prompt states:
INMR909A You may enter DSNAME, SPACE, UNIT, VOL, OLD/NEW, or
RESTORE/COPY/DELETE/END
You supplied a DATASET() parameter, but I don't see a RESTORE, COPY or DELETE
prior to the END.
Try adding:
queue "RESTORE"
Just
Tom,
As at 0720 on 19 November the z/OSv2 link is not working for me. Nothing at
all, no 404, no nothing.
The other links work, and I love the new prototype. Very easy to find what you
need, and to grab the PDFs for local use.
Thanks.
Push the TSO RECEIVE commands (ie. END, DA(), etc.) into the tso stack and
then call RECEIVE.
ITschak
ITschak Mugzach
Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments Professional
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Leopold Strauss <
leopold.stra...@isis-papyrus.com> wrote:
> Hi,
For those interested in owning a real mainframe, we do have some
MP3000s, some z890s, and some z9s that we would sell that are stored in
Chattanooga.
The z boxes would make great heaters in the winter. Just put one in the
basement and power it up. :-)
Tony Thigpen
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote
> Those HUGE DASDs are 3380s, I believe, with the sideways belt
> drive.Yeah, they're a little louder than a laptop drive. But no
> worries; you don't really hear them over the background A/C noise.
I am still on the search for a 3380/3880 set.
> I don't know about 3380s, but earlier IBM DASD
> For those interested in owning a real mainframe, we do have some MP3000s,
> some z890s, and some z9s that we would sell that are stored in Chattanooga.
Anything older?
> The z boxes would make great heaters in the winter. Just put one in the
> basement and power it up. :-)
Yes, that is the
I listed *two* potentially relevant test questions, the first of them more
or less the one you suggest. :-)
Charles
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To:
On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 9:59 AM, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
> I haven't experimented with this, but going with NOSCRATCH is likely to
> cause big problems with DASD GDGs. A data set residing on an SMS-managed
> volume must be cataloged. It cannot just sit there
In <2680722424903653.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on
11/18/2015
at 03:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> said:
>Sophistry!
PKB.
>If the user is not authorized,
There's more than one user.
>it's de facto unavailable and should be treated as
On 19 November 2015 at 18:19, Connor Krukosky wrote:
> Doh, should have included these photos.
> http://imgur.com/a/C6zsx
> I'm sure you all will enjoy them. And yes he got those HUGE DASDs as-well,
> can't wait to hear one of those spin up :)
Those HUGE DASDs are
Hi Phil,
z800 a01
It might get replaced in the next year or so.
Linda
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 19, 2015, at 2:59 PM, Phil Smith wrote:
>
> Is anyone running on real hardware that's older than a z9? Off-list replies
> would be fine-not trying to embarrass anyone,
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>I looked at that. It builds a list of IDCAMS commands to delete the members
>one-by-one.
Obsolete by now.
> Does IDCAMS DELETE DATA.SET.NAME(*)
Yes, it is documented "If you specify the entryname in the format of a
partition data set, pdsname(*), the command deletes
I'm curious to understand whay you want to run this rexx as a shell script as
oposed to a simple batch tso step.
I don't see the benefit, only drawbacks
--Peter Hunkeler
--
For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access
I haven't experimented with this, but going with NOSCRATCH is likely to cause
big problems with DASD GDGs. A data set residing on an SMS-managed volume must
be cataloged. It cannot just sit there uncataloged. Irresistible force meets
unmovable object.
.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 12:14:38 +, Jousma, David wrote:
>what I don't see is a way to run a SMPE apply for everything else
>EXCLUDING these FMID's in the OMEGAMON FMIDset. Can that be done?
I think you are asking if you can:
Apply select(everything) exclude(omegamon).
AFAIK, you cannot.
I
Thanks Tom. I've experimented with anything yet. Was just reading the manuals
to see if want I wanted to do could be done. I am trying to do exactly as you
characterized it.
_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe
W dniu 2015-11-19 o 14:44, Todd Arnold pisze:
One of the fundamental design points for CCA is that keys are protected. Once they are
inside the CCA system, they are always encrypted if they are outside the physically
secure HSM module. Thus, most crypto functions in the CCA API ("verbs")
I've finally discovered how to do it ! With this verb I can encrypt the text
using a clear single length DES key without the need to create/import a token:
/* Symmetric Key Encipher - CSNBSYE */
call csnbsye(return_code,
reason_code,
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 15:59:37 +, J O Skip Robinson wrote:
>I haven't experimented with this, but going with NOSCRATCH is likely to
>cause big problems with DASD GDGs. A data set residing on an SMS-managed
>volume must be cataloged.
It has been a long time since I looked at this, but what I
I have the same problem with my HMC and JAVA. I followed the steps outlined in
the SHARE doc and it did not work for me either. I did notice a missing MCL
below from Resource Link for my machine. Could be part of the problem. My HMC
is at 2.12.1 on a z12-BC. I'm going to schedule my CE to apply
Yep!
_
Dave Jousma
Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering
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On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 13:24:07 +, Jousma, David wrote:
>Was just reading the manuals to see if want I wanted to do could be done.
APPLY CHECK is your friend.
--
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One of the fundamental design points for CCA is that keys are protected. Once
they are inside the CCA system, they are always encrypted if they are outside
the physically secure HSM module. Thus, most crypto functions in the CCA API
("verbs") only accept keys in encrypted form - wrapped with
John, I believe your issue may be that the IBM VTS is installed as SMS managed
tape. Have you added the VTS to SMS, if not you may need to. If you do have it
defined in SMS, verify the tape datasets are getting assigned the correct
storage group. If they are falling into a storage group for
... So, I've created an
FMIDset of the Omeg FMID's to use for applying maintenance so that
passing the relevant hold data along to those groups is easier.
But what I don't see is a way to run a SMPE apply for everything else
EXCLUDING these FMID's in the OMEGAMON FMIDset. Can that be done?
>Do you really want/need to segregate applying maintenance for the Omegamon
>suite, or during a maintenance cycle do you simply want to more easily
>identify the relevant HOLDs just for >Omegamon? I don't necessarily have in
>mind a solution for you, but I'm curious what your real goal is.
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 12:47:40 +0100, Leopold Strauss wrote:
>Hi, all
>
(Waiting for Lizette to suggest fora TSO-REXX and, most relevant, MVS-OE.)
>I simply wanted to automize the receiving of a lot of XMIT-files in
>zOS-unix-shell ( not TSO)
>
>Last but not least my problem could be broken down
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 12:47:40 +0100, Leopold Strauss wrote:
>Hi, all
>
>I simply wanted to automize the receiving of a lot of XMIT-files in
>zOS-unix-shell ( not TSO)
>
>Last but not least my problem could be broken down to following
>terminal-input-problem with the RECEIVE-command:
>
(With a belated admonition to the OP to select a meaningful subject.
My experience is that any subject containing the word "question"
is suspect. Don't say, "I have a question." Simply ask your question.)
On Thu, 19 Nov 2015 16:48:23 +0100, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
>I'm curious to understand whay
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