Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Clark Morris wrote: >> __SNIP-- > > If the goal was to eliminate the need for highly technical people who > understand the platform and the tradeoffs, that is a futile goal

Re: BMC acquiring CA?

Let's say company B has a history of being managed by smart technically savvy people who developed their own software. Let's also say company C has a history of being a cash mill that just buys other companies, strips the technical staff to the bone marrow, and milks the maintenance and licensing

Re: BMC acquiring CA?

Peter wrote: >Both the ISV do have some similar products. In what way it is going to be >an win-win situation That hasn't stopped anyone before - CA bought both ACF2 and TSS, after all. But yeah, it'll be interesting: BMC Unload Plus and CA FU, for one. Thing is, those products can likely be

Re: BMC acquiring CA?

Both the ISV do have some similar products. In what way it is going to be an win-win situation On Jun 23, 2017 4:03 AM, "Clark Morris" wrote: > [Default] On 22 Jun 2017 09:05:37 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main > pinnc...@rochester.rr.com (Tom Conley) wrote: > > >On

Re: EBCDIC, ASCII, ugh

On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:57:10 +1000, Andrew Rowley wrote: >The biggest problem I think is proving the conversion is "round trip". > >I would suggest doing all conversion on the mainframe, and if you need >to be 100% sure you could add a step to do the conversion back into a >temporary file and

Re: Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca (Clark Morris) writes: > If the goal was to eliminate the need for highly technical people who > understand the platform and the tradeoffs, that is a futile goal for > any operating system. If the goal is to eliminate the need for > assembler coded exits, this is more

Re: EBCDIC, ASCII, ugh

The biggest problem I think is proving the conversion is "round trip". I would suggest doing all conversion on the mainframe, and if you need to be 100% sure you could add a step to do the conversion back into a temporary file and compare it with the original. Any conversion on another

Eliminating the systems programmer was Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

[Default] On 22 Jun 2017 15:13:36 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main edgould1...@comcast.net (Edward Gould) wrote: >> On Jun 22, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Tom Conley wrote: >> >> On 6/22/2017 3:42 PM, Edward Gould wrote: >>>

Re: EBCDIC, ASCII, ugh

I meant for you to use one of your own windows machines. One needs to have control of things so that one can prove that the process works before sending the data to the end user (who-ever that may be). --- frank.swarbr...@outlook.com wrote: From: Frank Swarbrick

Re: EBCDIC, ASCII, ugh

The MD5 is used to verify that the file sent from the mainframe has the same data when received on the interim distributed system. So creating the MD5 after its already there does no good. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf

Re: EBCDIC, ASCII, ugh

Apparently the requirement is that it be readable, when decrypted, on an ASCII platform. (I don't make the rules!) From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Thursday, June 22,

Re: EBCDIC, ASCII, ugh

On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:25:21 +, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >This is a weird one (I think). > EBCDIC. Ugh! >We have a requirement to store some information in an encrypted ASCII file >(that is, it was ASCII prior to being encrypted) on a distributed platform >over which we have no control. We

Re: EBCDIC, ASCII, ugh

--- frank.swarbr...@outlook.com wrote: From: Frank Swarbrick To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] EBCDIC, ASCII, ugh Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:25:21 + This is a weird one (I think). We have a requirement to store some

Re: EBCDIC, ASCII, ugh

I would eliminate the middle man in a different way. If this is mainframe data intended to be used only on mainframe, then why convert it to/from ASCII at all? Couldn't you FTP it as binary; store it; retrieve it; and FTP it back to mainframe as binary? What is to be gained by the dual

Re: EBCDIC, ASCII, ugh

Why not eliminate the middle man and convert the EBCDIC data line by line to ASCII (ftp can; so can a simple assembler program using TR instruction), add line delimiters, encrypt, create MD5, and transmit in binary. Receiver can verify MD5 to confirm no data lost. For the reverse trip, receive

Re: BMC acquiring CA?

[Default] On 22 Jun 2017 09:05:37 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main pinnc...@rochester.rr.com (Tom Conley) wrote: >On 6/22/2017 11:30 AM, Phil Smith wrote: >> John McKown wrote: >>> https://www.channele2e.com/news/bmc-acquiring-ca-inc-going-private/ >> >> If this goes through, I think we'll have

EBCDIC, ASCII, ugh

This is a weird one (I think). We have a requirement to store some information in an encrypted ASCII file (that is, it was ASCII prior to being encrypted) on a distributed platform over which we have no control. We also have a requirement that we make sure that no data is lost during

Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Tom Conley wrote: > > On 6/22/2017 3:42 PM, Edward Gould wrote: >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/20/ibm_contractor_crackdown/ >> >> IBM's contractor crackdown

Re: Output description of TSO TEST list PSW command

After having used XDC in the early 90s, I can barely make TSO TEST and TSO [Auth] Test function today (because I have forgotten most of the commands and formats). I really do not want to go back to about 1989 trying to debug and upgrade ALC programs. In fact, it is so bad that I am willing to

Re: BMC acquiring CA?

> On Jun 22, 2017, at 10:31 AM, Phil Smith wrote: > > John McKown wrote: >> https://www.channele2e.com/news/bmc-acquiring-ca-inc-going-private/ >> > > If this goes through, I think we'll have to admit that

Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

I wonder around the world, how many contractors refused the pay cut and went to work for the customer Should be interesting how long IBM can hold out before they start firing managers and customers get most upset Also Setting up a LLC and getting liability insurance takes about a week and

Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

Should be interesting how long IBM can hold out before they start firing managers and customers get most upset Also Setting up a LLC and getting liability insurance takes about a week and setting up a BASIC website can be done in 2 days. From: Edward Gould

Re: VSAM file as GDS

Archaic but still documented https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.idad400/d4111b.htm z/OS DFSMS Using Data Sets SC23-6855-00 I made no assumptions about the original postIs there evidence of SMS? On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 4:18 AM, Pommier, Rex

Re: IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

On 6/22/2017 3:42 PM, Edward Gould wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/20/ibm_contractor_crackdown/ IBM's contractor crackdown continues: Survivors refusing pay cut have hours reduced Managers told to hit budgets, even if customers bleed IBM continues to devalue the systems

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

"and SDWAPARM" would be more accurate. Thinking as a programmer, you would presumably get it from one *or* the other. btw, I found that the address will be a freakishly low address, something like x'0B00'. Do not be frightened. sas On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 9:29 AM, Greg Dyck

IBM cuts contractor billing by 15 percent (our else)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/20/ibm_contractor_crackdown/ IBM's contractor crackdown continues: Survivors refusing pay cut have hours reduced Managers told to hit budgets, even if customers bleed -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: PDSE dataset rename issue

Thanks for the display commands. But while several responders have tried to diagnose the nature of OP's problem, the real problem is that deleting or renaming a linklist data set has always been a horrible idea regardless of its 'E-ness'. There seems to persist the illusion that modifying a

Re: IBM customer anchor

On 2017-06-22 13:04, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Had CA squatted on their claim before IBM established a registry? IIRC Peter Relson established the registry when he first established the table. -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software International (a division of Mazda Computer Corporation) Tel:

Re: VSAM file as GDS

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: VSAM file as GDS On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:11:20 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Just take

Re: Output description of TSO TEST list PSW command

On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 12:53:31 -0400, David Cole wrote: >All that is true; nevertheless, it was the glaring deficiencies of TEST >TEST that exasperated me into declaring, "I can do better!" > >And I have. Indeed you have. Thank you. -- Tom Marchant

Re: VSAM file as GDS

We haven't had model DSCB's in a very long time. It doesn't take LIKE. A DEFAULT DATACLAS that actually specifies very little works just fine. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Tom Marchant > Sent: Thursday, June

Re: how to hide PS files

On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 12:10:58 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >> ... So the user transmits it to himself using FTP. > >​That's the hole in the sock[et].​ > I'd imagine pounding on it with ssh (Yah, everything looks like a nail ...); a specialized user ID on either the source or target host, whichever

Re: VSAM file as GDS

On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:11:20 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Just take off the LIKE parameter. The GDG should have a model DSCB. Why >make things so hard? The "Model DSCB" is an uncataloged data set with the same name as the GDG, located on the volume that holds the catalog containing the GDG.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: how to hide PS files

FTP uses by design a NET.DATA file that can hold the information. The Net.Data file should have a RACF security setting that only the user can read the file contents. This would mean the OP needs to move to a single file per user instead of a shared file. Jerry Whitteridge Manager Mainframe

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Re: how to hide PS files

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:48:16 +0200, R.S. wrote: > > > >Maybe you can achieve your goal by using PADS - RACF feature, > >conditional access to dataset (READ only when using program FTP). > >

Re: IBM customer anchor

On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:00:46 -0500, Brian Westerman wrote: >I know we had to contact CA and Sterling, as well as Landmark Systems about >using our offset. The only one that gave us a hard time about it was CA, who >told us they "had it first", and then tried both money and threats to have us

Re: Output description of TSO TEST list PSW command

All that is true; nevertheless, it was the glaring deficiencies of TEST TEST that exasperated me into declaring, "I can do better!" And I have. On Jun 22, 2017 11:21 AM, "Tony Harminc" wrote: > On 22 June 2017 at 10:22, David Cole wrote: > > People still

Re: how to hide PS files

On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:48:16 +0200, R.S. wrote: > >Maybe you can achieve your goal by using PADS - RACF feature, >conditional access to dataset (READ only when using program FTP). > ... So the user transmits it to himself using FTP. -- gil

Re: BMC acquiring CA?

On 6/22/2017 11:30 AM, Phil Smith wrote: John McKown wrote: https://www.channele2e.com/news/bmc-acquiring-ca-inc-going-private/ If this goes through, I think we'll have to admit that antitrust is dead. Remember that DOJ examined the CA-Sterling deal way back in 2000 for antitrust, but let

Re: BMC acquiring CA?

John McKown wrote: >https://www.channele2e.com/news/bmc-acquiring-ca-inc-going-private/ If this goes through, I think we'll have to admit that antitrust is dead. Remember that DOJ examined the CA-Sterling deal way back in 2000 for antitrust, but let it go through. 17 years later, there are many

Re: Output description of TSO TEST list PSW command

On 22 June 2017 at 10:22, David Cole wrote: > People still use TSO TEST? TSO TEST is the vi of the TSO world. It's always there on any system at any customer site, so you can get them to do things remotely that don't depend on a much more advanced three letter debugger being

Re: Output description of TSO TEST list PSW command

David Cole wrote: >The PSW is described in great detail in the Principles of Operation. The TSO >TEST doc writer's presume you know that. Indeed. Joseph Reichman wrote: >> That explains usage not what the output fields describe That is a different animal. Thanks. Could you perhaps post

Re: how to hide PS files

I never liked using a PS file for passwords even though it's an easy fix, but you see the issues, if possible I think a Co:Z SFTP solution would work best Carmen - Original Message - From: "Ambrose Jr" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, June

Re: how to hide PS files

Ambrose Jr wrote: >What is 'loads'? >Load Modules >What is 'there loads'? there own compiled cobol program. (sic) Ok, Thanks. That helps a lot. I was wondering if you meant 'their' instead of 'there'. >I a$$ume you want to avoid sharing that dataset. One way to do is use create >for each

Re: how to hide PS files

It is still hard to understand. You want to send some files (load modules or whatever) and you keep user/password in FTP.XX dataset - yes? And you want to keep the content of the dataset in secret. However you want people can use the dataset for ftp transmission. yes? Maybe you can achieve

Re: Output description of TSO TEST list PSW command

On 6/22/2017 10:24 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Joseph Reichman wrote: I can't find documentation for this anywhere It, TSO TEST LISTPSW, is documented with examples and all! Look at, but watch the wrap of this long URL!

Re: Output description of TSO TEST list PSW command

The PSW is described in great detail in the Principles of Operation. The TSO TEST doc writer's presume you know that. On Jun 22, 2017 10:29 AM, "Joseph Reichman" wrote: > That explains usage not what the output fields describe > > > > > On Jun 22, 2017, at 10:25 AM,

Re: how to hide PS files

Elardus, What is 'loads'? Load Modules What is 'there loads'? there own compiled cobol program. I a$$ume you want to avoid sharing that dataset. One way to do is use create for each FTP user a PS dataset .FTP.XX.? There is common PS dataset (having userid and pass for ftp), which i don't want

Re: Output description of TSO TEST list PSW command

That explains usage not what the output fields describe > On Jun 22, 2017, at 10:25 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht > wrote: > > Joseph Reichman wrote: > >> I can't find documentation for this anywhere > > It, TSO TEST LISTPSW, is documented with examples and all!

Re: Output description of TSO TEST list PSW command

Joseph Reichman wrote: >I can't find documentation for this anywhere It, TSO TEST LISTPSW, is documented with examples and all! Look at, but watch the wrap of this long URL!

Re: Output description of TSO TEST list PSW command

People still use TSO TEST? On Jun 22, 2017 10:18 AM, "Joseph Reichman" wrote: > I can't find documentation for this anywhere > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send

Re: how to hide PS files

Ambrose Jr wrote: >We have a setup of sending loads to other mainframe through ftp What is 'loads'? > we kept all the details (ip,username,password) on PS file FTP.XX . So far all > user send there loads using FTP.XX . One or many userid(s)? What is 'there loads'? >I would like to know

Output description of TSO TEST list PSW command

I can't find documentation for this anywhere -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

BMC acquiring CA?

https://www.channele2e.com/news/bmc-acquiring-ca-inc-going-private/ -- Veni, Vidi, VISA: I came, I saw, I did a little shopping. Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

how to hide PS files

HI all, We have a setup of sending loads to other mainframe through ftp ,we kept all the details (ip,username,password) on PS file FTP.XX .So far all user send there loads using FTP.XX . I would like to know how to hide or skip this FTP.XX file from user perspective.We are not in situation to

Re: PDSE dataset rename issue

Try issuing the following operator command D SMS,PDSE1,CONNECTIONS,DSN(SYS1.SIEALNKE) to see which address spaces are connected to it. I received the same error on a delete of a PDSE and it was being held by an Initiator. see http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T1012811 If

Re: IEAMSCHD no FRR param

On 6/22/2017 4:17 AM, contactmura...@gmail.com wrote: I am new to SRBs & FRRs. I have a question regarding FRR Parameter address discussed over here. When said "If the SRB abends, its FRR receives the address of the FRR parameter area in R2 (or SDWAPARM)." Why is it (or SDWAPARM)? That means

Re: VSAM file as GDS

The structure of a traditional GDG catalog entry doesn't have any place for the necessary VSAM information. On the other hand, the new extended GDG does. In fact, it should be able to support GDGs of anything, including sub-GDGs... how's that for a questionable idea? Nevertheless, to the extent

Re: IBM customer anchor

I know we had to contact CA and Sterling, as well as Landmark Systems about using our offset. The only one that gave us a hard time about it was CA, who told us they "had it first", and then tried both money and threats to have us give it up and go back and ask for another one. I believe our