Re: AW: Re: Formatting a ZFS

>Would you mind, and do you have time to open a PMR? If zFS cannot cope with >non-default CI size, it should say so clearly when asked to format a new >cluster. At the very least, the 0248 reason code must be documented. Amen. But I really really really hate SR, so I really want to avoid

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 23:37:19 -0500, Bruce Hewson wrote: > >you could also try directly in the shell > >zfsadm define -aggregate 'MVS_DATASET_NAME' -dataclass SMS_DATACLASS >-cylinders 3000 300 > What!? Just a one-line utility command!? No JOB statement? No EXEC statement? No DD statements?

Re: Formatting a ZFS

Barbara, you could also try directly in the shell zfsadm define -aggregate 'MVS_DATASET_NAME' -dataclass SMS_DATACLASS -cylinders 3000 300 Regards Bruce Hewson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Mainframe TITSUP totals Oz tax tech, again

Mainframe TITSUP totals Oz tax tech, again Say 'have you tried turning it off and turning it back on?' again. I DARE YOU http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/05/mainframe_titsup_totals_oz_tax_tech_again/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 18:21:32 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: >John McKown wrote: >> ​Well, maybe "what if your CLIST library is lost?" would be a better >> question. Of course, most sysprogs believe in redundancy. I XMIT all my >> libraries to separate PS datasets. Which I then BINary download to my >>

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On 5 July 2017 at 20:58, John McKown wrote: > Hum, and exactly how many of today's programmers know FORTRAN? I think it > would be better to write the code so that a COBOL programmer could > understand it. At least for z/OS & z/VSE shops. And as we all know, if a

Re: Formatting a ZFS

John McKown wrote: ​Well, maybe "what if your CLIST library is lost?" would be a better question. Of course, most sysprogs believe in redundancy. I XMIT all my libraries to separate PS datasets. Which I then BINary download to my desktop. Which I then copy to a USB "thumb" drive. Which I then

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 15:53:15 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: > > > >... you're going against the lead systems programmer very early in my > >career (1983). One of the grunt-work things I had to do

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Tom Brennan wrote: > Gibney, Dave wrote: > >> Either or both are more keystrokes than I care to do frequently on the >> fly. Typos happen. >> Write once, cut'n'paste forever. >> > > But you're going against the lead systems programmer

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 15:53:15 -0700, Tom Brennan wrote: > >... you're going against the lead systems programmer very early in my >career (1983). One of the grunt-work things I had to do was create an >alias for each new TSO id. I was taught the procedure as: > > a) Get the next paper from the

Re: Formatting a ZFS

Gibney, Dave wrote: Either or both are more keystrokes than I care to do frequently on the fly. Typos happen. Write once, cut'n'paste forever. But you're going against the lead systems programmer very early in my career (1983). One of the grunt-work things I had to do was create an alias

Re: Formatting a ZFS

I've had the impression for a long time that *all* LINEAR datasets had a fixed 4K CISIZE (and physical block size). 4K seems to be the default in IDCAMS, but not the rule. Maybe there's a good reason not to stick with 4K, but it appears ZFS assumes it, and I suspect that "Window Services" also

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On 5 July 2017 at 16:05, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > READY > ... > ALLOCATE DD(SYSUT1) DSN(*) > [ up to about a dozen lines of source code ] > /* > CALL 'SYS1.LINKLIB(IFOX00)' > > Showoff. Yup. That terminal as a workfile is a great trick...

AW: Re: Formatting a ZFS

> TSO BPXMTEXT EA0B0248 So did I, with same unsatisfying result. And as you wrote, the 0248 reason code is not documented with the IOE message. Would you mind, and do you have time to open a PMR? If zFS cannot cope with non-default CI size, it should say so clearly when asked to format a

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On 2017-07-05, at 13:46, Gibney, Dave wrote: > Oh, I am sure it can, but most folks I know who focus interactive rather than > repeatable, don't bother. > >>> A JCL member can be available again tomorrow or sometime in the next >> decade when the task need repeating. >>> >> ??? >> >> Do you

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On 2017-07-05, at 13:53, Gibney, Dave wrote: >> >>> A JCL member can be available again tomorrow or sometime in the next >>> decade when the task need repeating. >>> >> ​True, but so can a shell script. ... > > Either or both are more keystrokes than I care to do frequently on the fly. > Typos

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: > ​ > > > mkdir ~/temp > > zfsadm define -aggregate myhlq.temp.zfs -cyl 20 10 > > zfsadm format -aggregate myhlq.temp.zfs -perms 0755 -compat -version5 > > mount -f myhlq.temp.zfs ~/temp > > # bunch of commands which use the

Re: Formatting a ZFS

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of John McKown > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 12:48 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Formatting a ZFS > > On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Gibney, Dave

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: > A JCL member can be available again tomorrow or sometime in the next > decade when the task need repeating. > > ​True, but so can a shell script. However, I think that in most cases the majority of z/OS people are more likely

Re: Formatting a ZFS

Oh, I am sure it can, but most folks I know who focus interactive rather than repeatable, don't bother. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 12:44 PM > To:

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On 2017-07-05, at 13:33, Gibney, Dave wrote: > A JCL member can be available again tomorrow or sometime in the next decade > when the task need repeating. > ??? Do you truly fail to understand that a shell script can be saved in a file for use in the next day or the next decade, even as a JCL

Re: Formatting a ZFS

A JCL member can be available again tomorrow or sometime in the next decade when the task need repeating. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 12:26 PM > To:

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:00:06 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >... Perhaps because it's easier to save the JCL in a >dataset and modify it, rather that using a shell script. > I fail to discern much difference. In the former case, I tweak; SUBMIT; CANCEL. In the latter case, I tweak; ":w ! sh"; ":q!"

Re: IBM Jzos launcher

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 12:39:43 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >​could well be. We have an HTTP proxy here (Websense) which prohibits me >from "shopping" sites, but allows Amazon. That just doesn't make too much >sense (Web or otherwise). Well, unless there a little "under the table" >action going on. >

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On 5 July 2017 at 08:20, Barbara Nitz wrote: > TSO BPXMTEXT EA0B0248 > > BPXMTEXT does not support reason code qualifier EA0B > > That was the first thing I tried. Seems to me zFS should support the function described in the UNIX System Services File System Interface Reference

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 12:53 PM, J R wrote: > Well known? I only "know" you from this and the assembler list. As far > as I recall, you are the only person that has categorized yourself as weird! > I guess that I characterize myself that way since I do things a bit

Re: Formatting a ZFS

Well known? I only "know" you from this and the assembler list. As far as I recall, you are the only person that has categorized yourself as weird! > On Jul 5, 2017, at 12:03, John McKown wrote: > > But I'm well known for doing "weird" things.

Re: IBM Jzos launcher

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Dana Mitchell wrote: > On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 10:58:14 -0500, John McKown < > john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >​Worked fine for me. But I'm loading in up in Chrome on Windows. Are you > >actually using the "ftp" program? If so, then

Re: IBM Jzos launcher

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 10:58:14 -0500, John McKown wrote: >> >​Worked fine for me. But I'm loading in up in Chrome on Windows. Are you >actually using the "ftp" program? If so, then try "anonymous" as the user >and some email address as the password. That is the

Re: AW: IBM Knowledge Center

Peter Hunkeler wrote: it is just because of the unreliablilty that I want easily downloadable PDFs. I keep huge collections of PDF's anyway, because it's ALWAYS more reliable to have them on the huge and cheap PC disk than to go fetch on demand from the Internet. -- Jack J. Woehr #

Re: IBM Knowledge Center

H... it looks like the whole "MVS System Commands" plug-in is broken. I'll talk with the build team and get it resolved ASAP. In the meantime, here's the latest (December 2016) PDF: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/iea3g114.pdf -Sue Shumway On 07/05/17 10:30 AM, Vernooij, Kees -

Re: Abend CODE=4C5 REASON CODE=74F62104

Thanks David. Dean Nai Senior z/OS Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Group Department of Information Technology State of New Hampshire 27 Hazen Drive Concord, NH 03301 work: 603-271-1529 Statement of Confidentiality: The contents of this message are confidential.

Re: IBM Jzos launcher

JZOS is included from (at least) z/OS 2.1 on as part of the distribution. I don't remember if it was in 1.13. HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dana Mitchell Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:47 AM To:

Re: Abend CODE=4C5 REASON CODE=74F62104

How are you shutting down Websphere/MQ? With BPX you can terminate the threads (PID) if you identify them. The D OMVS command has a few ways to do this D OMVS,A=ALLthen look for your parent task Then D OMVS,P=xxx parent task number Then terminate the threads. I am not familiar with

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > Barbara, > > At this time, I am now formatting my zFS files a version5. According to > IBM doc this is a better way to go. > > I see you got around your Format by changing your IDCAMS definitions. It > would be

Re: SET PROG=xx question - sanity check

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 14:36:22 +, william janulin wrote: >Tom, >  How would it know which occurrence to delete when two of them are out there? Right. That's why you issued the DELETE first. And it's another difficulty with the suggestion that Elardus made. -- Tom Marchant

Re: IBM Jzos launcher

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote: > I'm working on updating my SCRT job to V24.11.0 and I need to install the > IBM jzos Launcher. When I try to download the JZOS Batch Launcher and > Toolkit Installation and User's Guide [PDF] I get a request from

Re: Abend CODE=4C5 REASON CODE=74F62104

I would start by opening SR to CommServer - Google on 74F62104 finds this APAR - PI78033 (FIN for 2.1 and 2.2) http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1PI78033 If a BPXAS initiator is corrupted in some way, it will remain in that state until it 'drains' (about 30 minutes after it

Re: Formatting a ZFS

Barbara, At this time, I am now formatting my zFS files a version5. According to IBM doc this is a better way to go. I see you got around your Format by changing your IDCAMS definitions. It would be nice if IBM could provide better error messages. Lizette > -Original Message- >

IBM Jzos launcher

I'm working on updating my SCRT job to V24.11.0 and I need to install the IBM jzos Launcher. When I try to download the JZOS Batch Launcher and Toolkit Installation and User's Guide [PDF] I get a request from ftp:\\public.dhe.ibm.com requires a user name and password. My normal IBM ID

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On 7/5/2017 5:37 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote: Thanks for the good laugh, Tom! Now exit, stage left, muttering: Why didn't IBM just specify in plain English that one cannot determine CISIZE instead of using an obscure, undocumented reason code and an unhelpful amount of dumps and messages?!?!?

Re: Abend CODE=4C5 REASON CODE=74F62104

After further research it looks like what is happening is the problem BPXAS address space eventually ends but later in the day, when another one starts, it uses the same address space ASID=01B4 and the cycle starts all over again. Anyone have any ideas on how to tell Z/OS or OMVS to mark this

Re: Abend CODE=4C5 REASON CODE=74F62104

That identifies it as TCPIP which we got from the error messages and dumps. But seeing it's cleaner to IPL than to recycle TCPIP on our Production LPAR I was hoping someone else had this same problem and had a work around better than the one we have. But thanks for your input. Really

Re: Abend CODE=4C5 REASON CODE=74F62104

1st try TSO BPXMTEXT 74F62104 It may give you some clues. Has anyone else run into these abends for OMVS jobs? There is an APAR out there that recognizes the issue but has no solution. What seems to be happening is we have a Websphere running in one of the BPAXS and it gets recycled everyday

Re: SET PROG=xx question - sanity check

Tom,   How would it know which occurrence to delete when two of them are out there? Bill J. On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:29 AM, Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 08:11:52 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >william janulin wrote: >

SFM experience?

Hello, I am experimenting with SFM (Sysplex Failure Management). I managed to remove the last signaling path from a system with a low weight and the system was partitioned out of the Sysplex. So far, so good, however: * I see some IXC307I messages in the operlog of the partitioned

Abend CODE=4C5 REASON CODE=74F62104

Has anyone else run into these abends for OMVS jobs? There is an APAR out there that recognizes the issue but has no solution. What seems to be happening is we have a Websphere running in one of the BPAXS and it gets recycled everyday by canceling it because it won't come down clean because of

Re: IBM Knowledge Center

Since the problem still exists after 24 hours, I reported it via the "Contact Us" button. I received an answer that the z/OS groups needs to repair this and they will be notified. Ahum... Kees. From: Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM Sent: 04 July, 2017 15:18 To: 'IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu'

Re: SET PROG=xx question - sanity check

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 08:11:52 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >william janulin wrote: > >>  I have a situation where I have to reposition a dataset in a new LNKLST. As >>I see no > >>   SETPROG LNKLST,MOVE   statement available would the following work: > >>SETPROG

Re: SET PROG=xx question - sanity check

william janulin wrote: >  I have a situation where I have to reposition a dataset in a new LNKLST. As >I see no >   SETPROG LNKLST,MOVE   statement available would the following work: >SETPROG LNKLST,DEFINE,NAME(LNKLSTnn),COPYFROM(CURRENT) > SETPROG LNKLST,DELETE,NAME(LNKLSTnn),DSNAME=dnsame1

Re: SET PROG=xx question - sanity check

Let me elaborate a little bit more. I've never used commas in PROGxx PARMLIB member, so the ways I know this would work are: A) With a member in PARMLIB: 1. Define a PROGxx member in PARMLIB with: LNK DEFINE NAME(name) COPYFROM=CURRENT LNK DELETE NAME(name) DSN(library) LNK ADD

Re: SET PROG=xx question - sanity check

Thank you Lucas, appreciate the feedbacl. Bill J. On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 8:50 AM, Lucas Rosalen wrote: Yes! --- *Lucas Rosalen*

Re: SET PROG=xx question - sanity check

Yes! --- *Lucas Rosalen* Emails: rosalen.lu...@gmail.com / *lrosa...@pl.ibm.com * LinkedIn: http://br.linkedin.com/in/lrosalen Phone: +48 (71) 792 809

SET PROG=xx question - sanity check

To list;   I have a situation where I have to reposition a dataset in a new LNKLST. As I see no    SETPROG LNKLST,MOVE   statement available would the following work: SETPROG LNKLST,DEFINE,NAME(LNKLSTnn),COPYFROM(CURRENT)  SETPROG LNKLST,DELETE,NAME(LNKLSTnn),DSNAME=dnsame1SETPROG

Re: Formatting a ZFS

TSO BPXMTEXT EA0B0248 BPXMTEXT does not support reason code qualifier EA0B That was the first thing I tried. Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: Formatting a ZFS

TSO BPXMTEXT EA0B0248 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Barbara Nitz Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 2:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Formatting a ZFS I am fighting with USS. Again. I am installing HCR77C0

Re: Formatting a ZFS

Every zfs doc I've ever seen has CISIZE of 4096. 1. First, use IDCAMS to create a VSAM linear data set. Note: Carefully consider defining the aggregate as extended format, extended addressability, and with a secondary allocation size. If you do not use these attributes in the

Re: Formatting a ZFS

>Weird one. Since IOEZPARM is saying 8K block, I'd try CISIZE(8192). If >it still doesn't work, scheisse zeit. Bingo. The collective wisdom of this group is great! With CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(8192) I get the same problem as before, so I left it off completely (as Peter suggested), and the ZFS

Ksys SYSLOG/NETLOG archive

Hello fellas, In my current client we save Ksys SYSLOG and NETLOG to some GDG and keep these datasets on Ksys disks. The "problem" is that we don't run any kind of space management on Ksys - these datasets just sit there on DASD -, therefore we're considering setting up a process to send those to

AW: Formatting a ZFS

> I am installing HCR77C0 and am trying to get a ZFS formatted: -- Peter Hunkeler > //ZFSALLOC EXEC PGM=IDCAMS > //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* > //SYSINDD * > DEFINE CLUSTER( - > CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(26624) - > NAME(INSTSMP.ICSF.HCR77C0.SCSFHFS) - > LINEAR CYLINDERS(100 50) - > SHAREOPTIONS(3) - > )

Re: Formatting a ZFS

On 7/5/2017 3:41 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote: I am fighting with USS. Again. I am installing HCR77C0 and am trying to get a ZFS formatted: //ZFSALLOC EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DEFINE CLUSTER( - CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(26624) -

GSE Large Systems Virtual Event

I am pleased to invite you to a mid-year GSE Large Systems Working Group event. The event will be a virtual event via webex on the 19th July 2017 from 14:00 – 16:15 GMT. The event will contain 2 hour sessions, including “How to make the most of z/OS BCPii” which was an award winner: Best

Formatting a ZFS

I am fighting with USS. Again. I am installing HCR77C0 and am trying to get a ZFS formatted: //ZFSALLOC EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD *

AW: IBM Knowledge Center

>1. It is true that the quality of the IBM Knowledge Center seems to have taken >a hit in their push to make it more mobile-friendly. IMHO, this is two-fold: The push towards mobile simplified what is shown on the pages, and this is positive. I think many pages are slimmer today and thus

AW: Re: AW: IBM Knowledge Center

> And yes, I test now and then each pages to see which are still working, say I > have a page starting with www-1, but instead discover only www-3 works, then > I replace/delete the book mark(s). I usually edit any www-1..., www-3..., etc and save it as www... when bookmarking. I never have

Re: AW: IBM Knowledge Center

Jack J. Woehr wrote: > 3. I'm less expert than most of you who are complaining and I still can find > whatever I want in the billion or so pages >of IBM documentation on the web via a Google search. Or start at www.ibm.com [0] and do your searches. Then bookmark pages containing successful