Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Friday Fun: hcd charts to htm via b2h issue

2017-08-02 Thread Martin Packer
By the way, as a frequent (almost daily) user of B2H in Production, I wonder: What is the copyright status of B2H? I think it's abandonware and would like to treat it as open source. In short, I'd join any effort to maintain B2H. Thoughts? Martin Sent from my iPad > On 2 Aug 2017, at 16:44, D

Re: Security, Other Risks When Unsupported (Was: z14 and z/OS 2.3 Blog Post)

2017-08-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Edward Gould wrote: >The following Christmas party I got brave and went over to the CEO and got >into a conversation about the issue. Wow! You're that brave! >... The VP said that is all we don’t have to upgrade our machine? ... I said >one caveat, and I saw everyone look at me, and I said t

Re: Software costs - CPU Replacement

2017-08-02 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, We actually helped 4 of our clients in 2016 replace their z8xx boxes with brand new z13s's (which start out at 10MSU), we did experience a problem dealing with Software AG at two of the sites (they go by MSU as well, but they don't use IBM's MSU's), but they came around in the end at both s

Re: Software costs - CPU Replacement

2017-08-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
Carlos Bodra wrote: >We are studying to replace old IBM z890 Capacity Setting 230 (170 Mips – 26 >MSU´s) by an IBM z10 BC Capacity Setting J02 (182 Mips – 23 MSU´s). >We understand that since MSU´s are lower in z10BC (23 x 26 MSU´s), we should >pay less for software contracts with IBM, CA and Softw

Re: Security, Other Risks When Unsupported (Was: z14 and z/OS 2.3 Blog Post)

2017-08-02 Thread Edward Gould
> On Aug 2, 2017, at 3:40 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht > wrote: > > Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: > >> BTW: I would take care to inform my manager less officially (and keep the >> notification in my archive). From personal experience I'm aware how >> pointless is this ;-) > > Or wait for next audit or

Re: Security, Other Risks When Unsupported

2017-08-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >Wait first for fireworks/drama, then wait for your retirement or >dismissal letter... ;-) Kees Vernooij wrote: >Saying: if you knew this, why didn't you tell us? Yes, I agree. You really don't want the "Why didn't you tell us?" question after something bad happens. (Un

Re: ​IBM's world record: 330TB uncompressed data on a palm-sized tape cartridge

2017-08-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 18:08:24 -0500, Edward Gould wrote: >http://www.zdnet.com/article/ibms-world-record-330tb-uncompressed-data-on-a-palm-sized-tape-cartridge/?loc=newsletter_featured_related_listing&ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=27692896283679241297724022269468 > Cloud archiving services such as Am

​IBM's world record: 330TB uncompressed data on a palm-sized tape cartridge

2017-08-02 Thread Edward Gould
http://www.zdnet.com/article/ibms-world-record-330tb-uncompressed-data-on-a-palm-sized-tape-cartridge/?loc=newsletter_featured_related_listing&ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=27692896283679241297724022269468 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / si

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-08-02 Thread Don Poitras
The convention for the past 15 years or so has been first two letters of first name and first four letters of last name. So you'd probably be sts...@sas.com. For collisions, I think it goes to three and three, so possibly ste...@sas.com. You could always try to bribe somebody to be sas...@sas.com

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-08-02 Thread Steve Smith
I asked the question based on the Auth. Ass. Services Guide... later on, I looked at the Diagnosis Ref., which says that the 230s are allocated in the 250s. Ah well, it was only idle curiosity anyway. If I got a job with SAS, would my email be s...@sas.com? Or sas...@sas.com? UGH. Better stay w

Windows NFS (was: z14 and z/OS 2.3 Blog Post)

2017-08-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 29 Jul 2017 10:03:43 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: > >Microsoft includes NFS ("Services for NFS") in Windows 7 Enterprise and >Ultimate. (I don't think Windows 8.x had an Ultimate flavor, so in the >Windows 8.x stream Microsoft's NFS is only in Windows 8 Enterprise.) All >that really change

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-08-02 Thread Don Poitras
In article you wrote: > In sorting through the Rubik's Cube that is the subpool selection charts, > it appears to me that 233-235 are defined exactly the same as 253-255 > respectively. Is there some difference I'm missing? > sas If there was a difference, that would be a problem. Since the not

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Friday Fun: hcd charts to htm via b2h issue

2017-08-02 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Try using 'noindex' instead of 'no index'. You could also use index=no -- Lionel B. Dyck -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dana Mitchell Sent: W

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-08-02 Thread Steve Smith
In sorting through the Rubik's Cube that is the subpool selection charts, it appears to me that 233-235 are defined exactly the same as 253-255 respectively. Is there some difference I'm missing? sas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Sort

2017-08-02 Thread Scott Barry
On Tue, 1 Aug 2017 16:17:51 -0500, gsg wrote: >Let me reword this. Does anyone have any experience with CA-Sort? How do you >like working with the product? Easy to use? CA Sort software is no longer marketed / supported, as of July 2010. https://www.ca.com/us/services-support/ca-support/ca-

Re: Software costs - CPU Replacement

2017-08-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
You should review this weblink (access the PDF) on support for the hardware https://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/TD105503 you want to make sure the next hardware you are going to will be available for a long time. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Main

Re: JCL to get a report of large datasets

2017-08-02 Thread David Staudacher
Although DCOLLECT is restricted where I work, so I've never been able to actually use it, I believe it's the simplest and easiest option for this task, if available. See DFSMS Data Collection Facility: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2i2a1/11.0 For my own homegrow

Re: Friday Fun: hcd charts to htm via b2h issue

2017-08-02 Thread Dana Mitchell
Lionel, Excellent work with B2H, I've been experimenting with it also. I like it, the price is right! One question, when I produce the HCD report with 'No Index' I receive the following error: B2H: Abend in line 7208 of B2H, RC=30 B2H: CondxC : SYNTAX

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Any IBM announcements on Cobol v4.2 EOS [Public Information]

2017-08-02 Thread Usher, Darrold
Thanks Lisette! Classification: Public Information -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Any IBM announcements on

Re: Any IBM announcements on Cobol v4.2 EOS

2017-08-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Note: If there is no EOS/EOM/EOL for that version of the product, then IBM has not determined a date. So you are probably good for a long time yet. I do not think they would do anything less than 1 year out when determining not to support a product - which is the first step to its life ending.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Any IBM announcements on Cobol v4.2 EOS [Public Information]

2017-08-02 Thread Usher, Darrold
Thanks Lizette. I saw the official docs, but I was hopeful to gain additional insight from perhaps Tom Ross to help with our planning. https://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycleapp/PLCDetail.wss?q45=H814828B44612R28 Classification: Public Information -Original Message- From: IB

Re: Any IBM announcements on Cobol v4.2 EOS

2017-08-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Going to www.ibm.com I used the search box with the words COBOL ROADMAPor COBOL LIFECYCLE This brought me to this Webpage https://www-01.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycleapp/PLCDetail.wss?from=spf&synkey=B984385H82239E03 Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mai

Re: XL C++ and the missing trunc()

2017-08-02 Thread Charles Mills
Not sure that it matters but the doc specifies #include Are you possibly getting the wrong math.h? You could also try #define _TR1_C99 #include Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Baguley, Nicholas: Absa Sen

Re: XL C++ and the missing trunc()

2017-08-02 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 8:01 AM, Baguley, Nicholas: Absa < nicholas.bagu...@absa.co.za> wrote: > Hi List > > I am trying to compile some code > > 16761 | #define _ISOC99_SOURCE > 16762 | #include "math.h" > 16763 | ..dNewValue = trunc(dValue*dDigits) / dDigits; > > Getting e

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Software costs - CPU Replacement

2017-08-02 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
We are studying to replace old IBM z890 Capacity Setting 230 (170 Mips – 26 MSU´s) by an IBM z10 BC Capacity Setting J02 (182 Mips – 23 MSU´s). We understand that since MSU´s are lower in z10BC (23 x 26 MSU´s), we should pay less for software contracts with IBM, CA and SoftwareAG. This situ

Re: JCL to get a report of large datasets

2017-08-02 Thread Ron Thomas
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Re: Security, Other Risks When Unsupported (Was: z14 and z/OS 2.3 Blog Post)

2017-08-02 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
Been there too. Got the t-shirt and everything myself several times over a 38 year career. Mark Jacobs John McKown August 2, 2017 at 8:42 AM ​Hum, around here when I "poke my nose in where it doesn't belong", it tends to get whacked. My immediate manager

XL C++ and the missing trunc()

2017-08-02 Thread Baguley, Nicholas: Absa
Hi List I am trying to compile some code 16761 | #define _ISOC99_SOURCE 16762 | #include "math.h" 16763 | ..dNewValue = trunc(dValue*dDigits) / dDigits; Getting error: ¬ "/u/abnb529/cpf/source/XMM021D.C", line 16763.29: CCN527

Re: Security, Other Risks When Unsupported (Was: z14 and z/OS 2.3 Blog Post)

2017-08-02 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:52 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: > John McKown wrote: > >Yes. And hopefully the ones whose job this is are doing that. > >I'm a z/OS sysprog > > It is your job, too. You just write (yes write) something like: > ​Hum, around here when I "poke my nose in where it doesn't

Re: Question about VSMLIST and LSQA

2017-08-02 Thread Peter Relson
>>A key reason for the last is so that someone can use LSQA for an SRB that >>is not associated with a TCB, for which you might not want private storage >>obtained by the SRB to be freed just because some task terminates. >Seems like a weak reason. Are there other ways SRBs are protected from

Any IBM announcements on Cobol v4.2 EOS

2017-08-02 Thread Usher, Darrold
Any IBM announcements on End of Support for Enterprise Cobol for z/OS v4.2? We have Cobol v6.1 installed and our application teams are testing, but it would be nice to know how the 4.2 EOS date. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signo

Re: Tools, tips, ideas to produce visuals of your z/OS network topology

2017-08-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
In IBM's big bag of tricks I'd take a look at Tivoli Application Dependency Discovery Manager ("TADDM"): https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/servicemanagement/bsm/taddm/ and perhaps add a dash of Tivoli NetView for z/OS, a tool that (among other things) has specific SNA-related expertise. ---

Re: Security, Other Risks When Unsupported (Was: z14 and z/OS 2.3 Blog Post)

2017-08-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM wrote: >> >BTW: I would take care to inform my manager less officially (and keep the >> >notification in my archive). From personal experience I'm aware how >> >pointless is this ;-) >> Or wait for next audit or weird abend / hacking attempt, then tell manglers,

Re: Security, Other Risks When Unsupported (Was: z14 and z/OS 2.3 Blog Post)

2017-08-02 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht > Sent: 02 August, 2017 10:40 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Security, Other Risks When Unsupported (Was: z14 and z/OS > 2.3 Blog Post) > > Rados

Re: Security, Other Risks When Unsupported (Was: z14 and z/OS 2.3 Blog Post)

2017-08-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >BTW: I would take care to inform my manager less officially (and keep the >notification in my archive). From personal experience I'm aware how pointless >is this ;-) Or wait for next audit or weird abend / hacking attempt, then tell manglers, supervisors and auditors.

Re: Security, Other Risks When Unsupported (Was: z14 and z/OS 2.3 Blog Post)

2017-08-02 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-08-02 o 09:52, Timothy Sipples pisze: John McKown wrote: Yes. And hopefully the ones whose job this is are doing that. I'm a z/OS sysprog It is your job, too. You just write (yes write) something like: - - - - August 2, 2017 Dear (My Manager): I would like to make you aware

Security, Other Risks When Unsupported (Was: z14 and z/OS 2.3 Blog Post)

2017-08-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
John McKown wrote: >Yes. And hopefully the ones whose job this is are doing that. >I'm a z/OS sysprog It is your job, too. You just write (yes write) something like: - - - - August 2, 2017 Dear (My Manager): I would like to make you aware that we are no longer receiving security-related an

Re: events in the New York area

2017-08-02 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: 02 August, 2017 9:02 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: events in the New York area > > > âãé áï àáé wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Does anyone know of any mainf

Re: events in the New York area

2017-08-02 Thread R.S.
âãé áï àáé wrote: Hi, Does anyone know of any mainframe related events in the New York are between now and August 9th? Some IPLs are scheduled for that period. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland == -- Treść tej w