Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Fri, 18 May 2018 18:04:47 -0500, Dale R. Smith wrote: >On Fri, 18 May 2018 22:08:51 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > >>I used the term CLIP (reformat label) today with a colleague who clearly did >>not understand. Isn't it an acronym? I can't find any hits. >> >>. >>. >>J.O.Skip Robinson

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I got into this biz in the late 70s. The term CLIP was common parlance for 'label reformat'. I still have several canned JCL members with 'CLIP' in the member name. If nothing else, the term is unique, while 'reformat' could have any number of meanings. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern

Re: RACF on a Sysplex??

2018-05-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Generic profiles had become a standard here years before we cloned the first RACF data base. Went so far as to create a still existing usermod to the RACF ISPF app that inserts 'Generic' on the main data set profile panels. One would have to go out of the way to create a discrete profile. I saw

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: RACF on a Sysplex??

2018-05-18 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hi Skip, Any scars from not doing so? – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jesse 1 Robinson Sent: Saturday 19-May-2018 03:17 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: RACF on

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Tony Thigpen
To answer your question, "as opposed to what", that would be "reformat". Tony Thigpen zMan wrote on 05/18/2018 10:15 PM: I have to ask: "Change Label In Place" -- as opposed to what? Removing the platter and sending it back to IBM to have the label changed? On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:07 PM,

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 18 May 2018 22:15:54 -0400, zMan wrote: >I have to ask: "Change Label In Place" -- as opposed to what? Removing the >platter and sending it back to IBM to have the label changed? > When I first heard it I assumed it referred to repairing a damaged magnetic tape by clipping off a couple

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread zMan
I have to ask: "Change Label In Place" -- as opposed to what? Removing the platter and sending it back to IBM to have the label changed? On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:07 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > Ooh, dueling acronyms. It's SCIDS all over again! > > . > . > J.O.Skip

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Ooh, dueling acronyms. It's SCIDS all over again! . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread graeme
Change Label In Place A standard card deck utility in the software FE toolbag 50 years ago. Graeme > On 19 May 2018, at 08:08, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > > I used the term CLIP (reformat label) today with a colleague who clearly did > not understand. Isn't it an

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
That looks definitive. And thanks for the reference work. My colleagues are some very talented folks who are mostly relative newbies. I lose track of what 'everybody knows'. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Fri, 18 May 2018 22:08:51 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >I used the term CLIP (reformat label) today with a colleague who clearly did >not understand. Isn't it an acronym? I can't find any hits. > >. >. >J.O.Skip Robinson >Southern California Edison Company

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I've heard/used the term CLIP as long as I've been in this business even though it's not official technical terminology. I will happily go with Change Label In Place. Thanks! . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Jim Mulder
I don't see that term in the IEHDASDR documentation found here: www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/.../GC28-6586-15_OS_Utilities_Rel_21.7_Apr73.pdf I would guess Change Label In Place Found an old proc on one of our systems: BROWSESYS1.PROCLIB(CLIP) - 01.11 Command ===>

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Robinson, You probably may be quoting the VSE/VSAM User’s Guide and Application Programming commands CLIP LABEL=DISPLAY - Causes the volume serial number to be displayed on the system console. CLIP LABEL=SER=n..n - Causes the existing volume serial number to be changed to the one specified as

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
Took me a moment to remember what CLIP was, but I do not know if it stood for anything. Maybe: "Change Label in Perpetuity?" :) [It's Friday, lighten up!] Al Nims Systems Admin/Programmer III UF Information Technology East Campus P.O. Box 112050 Gainesville, FL. 32611 (e) ajn...@ufl.edu (p)

Re: CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Like clipping a price tag off one piece of clothing and putting it on another piece of clothing. The VTOC has only the name changed. On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: > I used the term CLIP (reformat label) today with a colleague who clearly did >

CLIP?

2018-05-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I used the term CLIP (reformat label) today with a colleague who clearly did not understand. Isn't it an acronym? I can't find any hits. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office

Re: RACF on a Sysplex??

2018-05-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
One sort of obvious point. Before cloning your RACF data base make sure that *all* data set profiles are generic. Convert any that are not. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office

Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-05-18 Thread Ronald Kristel
The current base z/OSMF is not that hard to set up anymore and improved a lot since the original shell installation. The key is not to enable all the plugins at once and just install them one by one. Some only need a few security definitions, some (might) need some additional adjustments in

Re: z/OSMF, was How far out of date are my skills

2018-05-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Being first at the party does not always lead to the happiest outcome. We installed the original z/OSMF as part of a z/OS ESP years ago. We stopped migrating it when we realized the quagmire involved, but we've been converting the early systems to Liberty. Converting the security environment

Re: ZIIP engine utilization

2018-05-18 Thread Martin Packer
I have a zIIP Capacity Planning presentation - which I last gave yesterday in London at Z Technical University in London. It might well be of use. Hint: You don’t want to go anywhere near 100% zIIP Pool Utilisation. Cheers, Martin Sent from my iPad > On 18 May 2018, at 14:37, Scott Chapman

TS7760

2018-05-18 Thread Carlos Bodra - Pessoal
Can IBM TS7760 configured to virtualize tapes for Open Systems? If not, what can be used to virtualize tapes for Open Systems from IBM or not. Carlos Bodra IBM System Certified System z São Paulo - Brazil -- For

Re: VTL as 3490 vs 3590

2018-05-18 Thread John McKown
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 12:52 PM Tony Thigpen wrote: > For a little fun on Friday afternoon. > > We will be replacing our current VTL. > > The new VTL can be configured to look like 3490s or 3590s. Our current > VTL is defined to z/OS as 3490s. > > Some of the staff are saying:

Re: VTL as 3490 vs 3590

2018-05-18 Thread Ken Bloom
Hi Russell We don't limit the size of the VTL volume so size doesn't enter into it. Regards Ken Kenneth A. Bloom CEO Avenir Technologies Inc /d/b/a Visara International 203-984-2235 bl...@visara.com www.visara.com > On May 18, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Russell Witt wrote: > >

Re: VTL as 3490 vs 3590

2018-05-18 Thread Russell Witt
Tony, Another item to throw into the mix is what size of virtual-volumes you define them as. With 3490's, you can define the virtual-volumes in Gigabytes of capacity. If you stack lots of very small files, you run into a problem with the Block-ID not being large enough. With them defined as

Re: VTL as 3490 vs 3590

2018-05-18 Thread Ken Bloom
Hi Tony Most of the time we define the drives on the Visara 5990A/L as 3490 and only define them as 3590 if the customer has a "desire" to define 3490. Bottom line is that it will not make a difference. Regards Ken Kenneth A. Bloom CEO Avenir Technologies Inc /d/b/a Visara International

VTL as 3490 vs 3590

2018-05-18 Thread Tony Thigpen
For a little fun on Friday afternoon. We will be replacing our current VTL. The new VTL can be configured to look like 3490s or 3590s. Our current VTL is defined to z/OS as 3490s. Some of the staff are saying: "All VTLs should be defined as 3490s because that is what everybody does."

Re: How to identify Proc Usage ( was DAF (CBT 094) - Unknown Datatype x01BB)

2018-05-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Comment inside the Proc after the Proc statement. On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Lizette Koehler wrote: > This is just a thought. > > Look at SMF 42 records. Depending on your level of z/OS they include MEMBER > information - This might be useful in determining if

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBMVSM,ZOSMIGV2R3_NEXT_VSM_USERKEYCOMM

2018-05-18 Thread Michael Babcock
Yep, that worked for me as well. On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 9:28 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Although a SET DIAG=00 when coding the same parm without the VSM on the > front of it. And a D DIAG shows > > IGV007I 10.27.59 DIAG DISPLAY 034 > VSM TRACK

How to identify Proc Usage ( was DAF (CBT 094) - Unknown Datatype x01BB)

2018-05-18 Thread Lizette Koehler
This is just a thought. Look at SMF 42 records. Depending on your level of z/OS they include MEMBER information - This might be useful in determining if a proc is used Lizette > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > > Behalf

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBMVSM,ZOSMIGV2R3_NEXT_VSM_USERKEYCOMM

2018-05-18 Thread Jousma, David
Although a SET DIAG=00 when coding the same parm without the VSM on the front of it. And a D DIAG shows IGV007I 10.27.59 DIAG DISPLAY 034 VSM TRACK CSA(ON) SQA(ON) VSM TRACE GET(OFF) FREE(OFF) VSM CHECKREGIONLOSS(665K,50M) VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(YES)

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBMVSM,ZOSMIGV2R3_NEXT_VSM_USERKEYCOMM

2018-05-18 Thread Jousma, David
Yes, failed for me on V2.3 IEE252I MEMBER DIAG00 FOUND IN SYS1.PARMLIB ASA003I SYNTAX ERROR IN PARMLIB MEMBER=DIAG00 ON LINE 31, 018 POSITION 6: ALLOWUSERKEYCADS WAS SEEN, WHERE ONE OF (DETECT PROTECT CHECKREGIONLOSS TRACE TRACK

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBMVSM,ZOSMIGV2R3_NEXT_VSM_USERKEYCOMM

2018-05-18 Thread Michael Babcock
This keyword was not accepted by my z/OS 2.2 system when I did a SET DIAG= VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCADS(NO) On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 6:06 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Thanks Jim! > > _ > Dave

Re: ZIIP engine utilization

2018-05-18 Thread Scott Chapman
Since you have at least the RMF post processor reports available to you, the CPU Activity report is a high-level place to start. In particular I would start at the Partition Data Report section. Look for the total physical utilization of the zIIP(s). That's not the only place you may see an

Re: ZIIP engine utilization

2018-05-18 Thread Christopher Y. Blaicher
SMF30_TIME_zIIP_ON_CP is another indicator. Look at subtype 2 interval records for long running tasks such as CICS and DB2 and at subtype 4 records for regular jobs. SMF30_TIME_zIIP_ON_CP is all the work that could be done on a z/IIP but couldn't due to the ZIIP was busy with other work.

Re: ZIIP engine utilization

2018-05-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
I agree with zman; you need to get some performance expertise. If you have slack time and management is willing to pay for training, that's a good option. Otherwise they need to hire someone with performance and tuning expertice. It's not rocket science, but you will need time to learn and

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: DAF (CBT 094) - Unknown Datatype x01BB

2018-05-18 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
.. I have a compiled DAF from earlier which works for DATASET EQ stuff, but it doesn't recognize the RACF keywords, though I probably would have let the RACF flag default to a yes when I asm it years ago. – Vignesh Mainframe Infrastructure -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: DAF (CBT 094) - Unknown Datatype x01BB

2018-05-18 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hi Anthony, Looks like I'm getting DAF assemble errors to now.. ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF42S7 ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF42FFS ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF42FTY ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF42FTM ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF42FSN ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol -

Re: Compiling DAF

2018-05-18 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote: >Any thoughts on what I'm messing up? I've set the RT_ variable for RMF to '000' >** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF42S7 ... snip ... >** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF82ITE Look at thread 'DAF (CBT 094) - Unknown Datatype x01BB' about two days ago. Perhaps

Compiling DAF

2018-05-18 Thread Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
Hi All, Any thoughts on what I'm messing up? I've set the RT_ variable for RMF to '000' ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF42S7 ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF42FFS ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF42FTY ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF42FTM ** ASMA044E Undefined symbol - SMF42FSN **

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: IBMVSM,ZOSMIGV2R3_NEXT_VSM_USERKEYCOMM

2018-05-18 Thread Jousma, David
Thanks Jim! _ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI  49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: ZIIP engine utilization

2018-05-18 Thread Richards, Robert B.
IIRC, you can look at zIIP-eligible time (CPUZIETM). If it is a high value, you are not only losing the benefit of running on an additional uncapped specialty processor, you are potentially wasting money if then running on a GP at a time that drives the system to a new 4HRA on software costs!

Re: Syncsort to DFSort Migration

2018-05-18 Thread zos reader
Thanks all for your valuable response On Friday, May 18, 2018, Edward Gould wrote: > > On May 17, 2018, at 3:05 PM, Brian France wrote: > > > > On 05/17/2018 01:25 PM, Edward Gould wrote: > __snip-- >

Re: ZIIP engine utilization

2018-05-18 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
The situation for a zIIP is somewhat more complex and 2-staged. If a zIIP becomes heavier used, delays for the zIIP begin to show up. It is at 30% utilization when you have 1 zIIP, 60% utilization when you have 2 zIIP. It the zIIP becomes heavier loaded and delays are growing, the CP is asked to