Container pricing

2019-12-05 Thread Laurence Chiu
Just wondering had anybody had any practical experience with container pricing especially with dev/test environments and how did that work out for you? Just looking to see if there is some local application. Thanks -- For

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Kirk Wolf
Who could have predicted that this thread would attract so much activity on ibm-main of all places? ;-) Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com > > -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Trying to understand IDENTIFY and module re-usage issue

2019-12-05 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks. I see the following in the Services Guide for search order: The control program searches: 1. The requesting task's load list for an available copy. 2. The job pack area for an available copy. 3. The requesting task's task library and all the unique task libraries of its preceding tasks.

Re: Trying to understand IDENTIFY and module re-usage issue

2019-12-05 Thread Attila Fogarasi
TASKLIB on ATTACH is one reason that pops to mind; given you dont have source code, can you do GTF trace to confirm that ATTACH has occurred? There are probably several similar scenarios possible if not doing TASKLIB. On Fri, Dec 6, 2019 at 6:49 AM Charles Mills wrote: > Program A issues a

Re: Syslog Message Normalization

2019-12-05 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Thanks all, this is helpful. The second part is to parse the message apart into elements for some analysis. I’ll process through the suggestions. Matt Hogstrom m...@hogstrom.org +1-919-656-0564 PGP Key: 0x90ECB270 Facebook LinkedIn

Trying to understand IDENTIFY and module re-usage issue

2019-12-05 Thread Charles Mills
Program A issues a successful IDENTIFY for entry point ABC and then transfers control to program XYZ. (I have no source code for nor ability to fully understand the logic of program XYZ, nor to modify it.) Program XYZ subsequently invokes entry point ABC but ends up with a new copy loaded from

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Mike Schwab
Candidate for a Pullet Surprise. http://english.ohmynews.com/articleview/article_view.asp?menu=c10400=378714_no=1 On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 1:38 PM Charles Mills wrote: > Mea culpa. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law > > Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Charles Mills
Mea culpa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 10:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Misuse of

z/OS ISPF git Interface (zigi) Version 1.3 released

2019-12-05 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Version 1.3 was just released - get it from https://github.com/wizardofzos/zigi and some intro here https://zigi.rocks/ wizardofzos released this 15 minutes ago Lionel has added so many new cool features in zigi it's just not fair to call it 1.2 Hence, we

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
The industry has long been afflicted by people slinging around words whose meanings they don't know. "Hexadecimal value" is just the tip of the iceberg. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Whatever.. But. I think the word in the title should be 'hexadecimal' rather than 'hexadecimnal' . Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw | Security Lead | RSM Partners Ltd   Web:  www.rsmpartners.com ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.’ -Original Message-

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
ObPedant ITYM "raises the question"; begging the question is something quite different. Even on the same physical printer, "printable" depends on such things as UCS tables and font definitions. To add to the mess, many PC code pages have infected the code points reserved for control characters

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
Or 12. or 9. Bring back Stretch. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 4:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Misuse of

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
Give me ligatures or give me death. Also, does foo match the normalized form of foo? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Phil Smith III Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 5:19 PM

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
"Hexadecimal character" is a piece of faux erudition; google for "buzzword bingo". -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

2019-12-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
Buzz Word Bingo. Eschew obfuscation. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 3:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Syslog Message Normalization

2019-12-05 Thread Leonardo Vaz
If you are writing to OPERLOG I consider using that, for each record, you'll have the type (Single-line message, First line of a multi-line message, Data line of a multi-line message, Data end line of a multi-line message) as well as the multiline ID to guarantee you are not mixing lines.

Re: GOODBYE

2019-12-05 Thread Jerome Benting
Have a ripper mate...you deserve it -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 4:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: GOODBYE G'Day, I am about to retire and become a lazy sod for the rest of my life. I

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Mike Schwab
Basically, any printable character is any character with a recognized value in your selected character set and excludes the control characters X'00'- X'1F' (in UTF-8, ASCII, and all EBCDIC code pages). Bell, Carriage Return, Line Feed, Vertical Tab, Page Feed are some assigned printer control

Re: A minimum of 8 GB of real memory is required to IPL

2019-12-05 Thread Steve Partlow
Correct, this requirement applies only to z/OS v2.3 and above (e.g. also v2.4) when running on z14 and later (e.g. also the ZR1 and z15). The only enforcement is the new WTOR during IPL: IAR057D LESS THAN 8 GB OF REAL STORAGE IMPACTS SYSTEM AVAILABILITY - ADD STORAGE OR REPLY C TO CONTINUE So

Re: A minimum of 8 GB of real memory is required to IPL

2019-12-05 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I have successfully IPLed z/OS 2.3 in a 4GB region using zPDT. Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw | Security Lead | RSM Partners Ltd   Web:  www.rsmpartners.com 'Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.' -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: A minimum of 8 GB of real memory is required to IPL

2019-12-05 Thread Parwez Hamid
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.e0zm100/BCP_zNext_Memory_Reqs_V2R3.htm Ensure that enough real memory is installed - IBM Description.

Re: A minimum of 8 GB of real memory is required to IPL

2019-12-05 Thread Mullen, Patrick
We have z/OS 2.3 lpars running on z14_ZR1 machines without impact to availability in as little as 3 GB. We do of course see message: IAR057D LESS THAN 8 GB OF REAL STORAGE IMPACTS SYSTEM AVAILABILITY - ADD STORAGE OR REPLY C TO CONTINUE Automation replies C. These are not production workload

Re: GOODBYE

2019-12-05 Thread Roberto Halais
Good luck!!! On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 10:03 AM John Dawes < 00ff0e22811f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > G'Day, > I am about to retire and become a lazy sod for the rest of my life. > I would like to take this opportunity to thank everybody who answered my > questions and for the

RDZ or WDZ 7.6

2019-12-05 Thread Jean-Loup PIETIN
Hi everibody I have a problem with a web service CICS that i generate in 2014 with RDZ 7.6.. So a new parameter in input and ouput zone force to recreate the service. The problem, i cannot recreate my web service with the new RDZ because i have an APIG error when i call it... And

Re: GOODBYE

2019-12-05 Thread scott Ford
John, Best of luck and enjoy life... Scott On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 9:55 AM Steve Beaver wrote: > Lazy does not apply to any of us. You'll be kack > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of John Dawes > Sent: Thursday,

Re: A minimum of 8 GB of real memory is required to IPL

2019-12-05 Thread Allan Staller
I believe this is not currently a *requirement*. My recollection is that a warning message will be issued @IPL, but the IPL will continue. I have not heard of this being enforced at this time. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B.

Re: A minimum of 8 GB of real memory is required to IPL

2019-12-05 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Related question: and does it not apply to a z13? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: 05 December 2019 15:51 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: A minimum of 8 GB of real memory is

Re: GOODBYE

2019-12-05 Thread Steve Beaver
Lazy does not apply to any of us. You'll be kack -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 8:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: GOODBYE G'Day, I am about to retire and

A minimum of 8 GB of real memory is required to IPL

2019-12-05 Thread Richards, Robert B.
* For z/OS V2R3 with the IBM z14(tm) (z14) server, a minimum of 8 GB of real memory is required to IPL. Does this statement only apply only to the z14 or all models *after* it? For example, the z14_ZR1 and the z15? -- For

Re: Misuse of the word hexacriminal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Steve Smith
Good that someone like it :-). "Any hexadecimal character" is semantic nonsense (as many have said, one way or another). Nevertheless, it's a more-or-less established idiom meaning "any value"; and we know what they mean. sas On Thu, Dec 5, 2019 at 3:39 AM Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM <

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2019-12-04 23:37, Paul Gilmartin wrote: It was at the beginning of the text you trimmed: Re: I'm similarly perplexed by IBM's frequent usage, as in: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa200/ENQ_Description.htm ... The name can contain

Re: GOODBYE

2019-12-05 Thread Allan Staller
Best of luck in all of your future endeavors! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 8:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: GOODBYE G'Day, I am about to retire and become a lazy sod for the rest of my

GOODBYE

2019-12-05 Thread John Dawes
G'Day,      I am about to retire and become a lazy sod for the rest of my life.  I would like to take this opportunity to thank everybody who answered my questions and for the invaluable help that was given to me.Looking back over the years I am surprised that I survived the cuts and stress of

Re: Syslog Message Normalization

2019-12-05 Thread Sri h Kolusu
I’m processing syslog messages and I’d like to combine multi-line messages into a single entry before processing the entries. Matt, DFSORT has the capability of combining multiple lines into a single line using WHEN=GROUP. You can easily identify the continuation line as it will NOT have the

Re: AUTHPGM in IKJTSOxx

2019-12-05 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Yes. My mistake. I should have said AUTHTSF. Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw | Security Lead | RSM Partners Ltd   Web:  www.rsmpartners.com ‘Dance like no one is watching. Encrypt like everyone is.’ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Walt Farrell

Re: Syslog Message Normalization

2019-12-05 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
I think there is a difference in multi-line messages (where each line is identified by an id, '808' in the example below) and long messages that are spread in syslog over more than 1 line. I think your example belongs to the latter. MR000 MVSC 19339 09:30:47.49 ACTWRK02

Re: Syslog Message Normalization

2019-12-05 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
No, 31 is the continuation of the message text. The id is always 3 digits and is more to the left. "808" in the example below. MR000 MVSC 19339 09:30:47.49 ACTWRK02 .HASP003 RC=(52),D 808 DR

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
Hilarious, this is what I like about this forum. Throw any digital bone into the this group of dogs (no offence intended) and they will all jump on it, analyze it, cut it into pieces, rephrase it, write their solution, convince all others of their personal findings and branch off into any

Re: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...)

2019-12-05 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
See my answer to Gil about Venn diagrams. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: 04 December 2019 19:02 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Misuse of the word hexadecimnal (Was RE: COPYING PDS TO

Re: COPYING PDS TO PDS ...

2019-12-05 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOP NM) - KLM
In my Venn diagram, there are (a.o.) alphanumeric and hexadecimal characters. One is a subset of the other, so sometimes you can use only 'some' hexadecimal characters, sometimes you can use 'all' hexadecimal characters / 'any' hexadecimal character. Since English is not my native language, my