Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread David Crayford
On 2020-10-12 10:04 PM, Joe Monk wrote: "For example, show me a customer that is running Node.js in production on z/OS?" How long has it been since youve been to SHARE? Pittsburgh. I can't remember any customer presentations about deploying Node is production. Are you aware of any since you

Re: RFE Vote for IBM Fault Analyzer.

2020-10-12 Thread Hank Oerlemans
Presumably the RFE system sent you the notification that it's delivered in the latest PTF. Cheers Hank, FA Dev -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Massimo Biancucci Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 17:54 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: RFE Vote for

Re: Reading a dump

2020-10-12 Thread Hank Oerlemans
We thank you for your "vastly superior".  I was using FA to bounce around dumps well before I got involved with the product. Cheers Hank, FA Dev -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: Monday, 22 June 2020 14:49 To:

Re: Positive feedback, z/OSMF - Workflows

2020-10-12 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: HCL Internal I agree. However, I had a huge discussion w/Marna about the ergonomics of the workflows. Vertical screen space overused. Cumbersome operation. Poor placement of radio buttons, etc. Conceptually it is great. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Positive feedback, z/OSMF - Workflows

2020-10-12 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I was very concerned when IBM took away the migration guide for z/OS, I've been using the migration guide for all my upgrades as long as I can remember. some time ago I downloaded and imported the z/OS 2.3 to z/OS 2.4 Workflow, last week my z/OS order was downloaded and I'm working on the

Re: Microsoft using IBM was Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread R.S.
W dniu 12.10.2020 o 17:23, Ed Jaffe pisze: On 10/12/2020 8:15 AM, Clark Morris wrote: I would be astounded if Microsoft was running any of their business today on other than Microsoft operating systems or Linux on x86 and ARM hardware. Microsoft has an IBM mainframe running z/OS. One of

Re: Microsoft using IBM was Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Steve Beaver
IBM runs Azure for MS Sent from my iPhone I promise you I can’t type or Spell on any smartphone > On Oct 12, 2020, at 10:23, Ed Jaffe wrote: > > On 10/12/2020 8:15 AM, Clark Morris wrote: >> >> I would be astounded if Microsoft was running any of their business >> today on other than

IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Chris Hoelscher
As a worker-bee within IBM GTS - let me just say this is a distraction I could do without Chris Hoelscher Lead Sys DBA IBM Global Technical Services on assignmemt to Humana Inc. T 502.476.2538 or 502.407.7266 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Clark

Re: Microsoft using IBM was Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 10/12/2020 8:15 AM, Clark Morris wrote: I would be astounded if Microsoft was running any of their business today on other than Microsoft operating systems or Linux on x86 and ARM hardware. Microsoft has an IBM mainframe running z/OS. One of their guys comes to SHARE. I saw him a while

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Bill Johnson
I agree with Joe. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, October 12, 2020, 10:48 AM, Joe Monk wrote: Mainframes have been running node.js for years. In fact you can run Linux/390 and z/OS side by side on the same box with LPARs... "A Forrester survey released in 2019 found that 56% of

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Bill Johnson
You act like IBM marketing material isn’t true. Prove to me it’s false that 90% of credit card transactions don’t process on the mainframe. I’ve provided proof it is. You’ve provided nothing to disprove it. It’s not hard to come to the 90% conclusion since almost all banks worldwide run on the

Microsoft using IBM was Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 12 Oct 2020 07:49:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) wrote: >I know they did 25-ish years ago. I personally saw it. Also an AS/400 -- their >corporate travel department ran on it. I would be astounded if Microsoft was running any of their business

Re: ALERSERV delete from stimerm exit

2020-10-12 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 12 Oct 2020 07:53:28 -0400 Peter Relson wrote: :>A "workunit" (AKA "dispatchable unit") to z/OS is a task or SRB. :>Therefore a workunit is created when a task is created (ATTACH/ATTACHX) or :>an SRB is scheduled (SCHEDULE, IEAMSCHD). ALESERV AL=WORKUNIT does not allow the ALET to be

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Charles Mills
I know they did 25-ish years ago. I personally saw it. Also an AS/400 -- their corporate travel department ran on it. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Allan Staller Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 6:55 AM To:

Re: ALERSERV delete from stimerm exit

2020-10-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
Then what's special about a timer exit or an IRB in general? And why does MVS Programming: Authorized Assembler Services Guide say "Upon entry, the exit routine runs with an empty dispatchable unit access list (DU-AL). " -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Bill Ogden
Before pontificating on "stupid" patents, PLEASE study the general field just a tiny bit! These are defensive patents and the unfortunate patent systems (mostly led by the U.S.) make these very necessary. The only stupidity involved (other than the whole patent process) is not understanding

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Joe Monk
"For example, show me a customer that is running Node.js in production on z/OS?" How long has it been since youve been to SHARE? Joe On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 7:36 AM David Crayford wrote: > On 2020-10-12 8:21 PM, Joe Monk wrote: > > > IBM has also aggressively added support for newer

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: HCL Internal The dirty little secret is that MSOFT has a mainframe in the back office! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Clark Morris Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 2:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM splitting into

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 10:44:09 -0500, Dave Jousma wrote: >Anyone know any more about this? > >https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ibm-divestiture/ibm-to-break-up-109-year-old-company-to-focus-on-cloud-growth-idUSKBN26T1TZ >

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread David Crayford
On 2020-10-12 8:21 PM, Joe Monk wrote: IBM has also aggressively added support for newer technologies on System z. "All modern stuff runs well on the big box, from Linux to Kubernetes," Mueller said. "So cloud makes sense when you need infinite compute for AI/ML or storage for Big Data. Then

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Joe Monk
Mainframes have been running node.js for years. In fact you can run Linux/390 and z/OS side by side on the same box with LPARs... "A Forrester survey released in 2019 found that 56% of respondents planned to increase their mainframe usage over the next two years, while 36% planned on the same

Re: ALERSERV delete from stimerm exit

2020-10-12 Thread Peter Relson
A "workunit" (AKA "dispatchable unit") to z/OS is a task or SRB. Therefore a workunit is created when a task is created (ATTACH/ATTACHX) or an SRB is scheduled (SCHEDULE, IEAMSCHD). Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design --

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Bill Johnson
I never post BS. I interviewed at PayPal quite a few years ago at their Columbus, Ohio location. Up in Dublin a northern suburb. They had a mainframe then. Apple & Amazon uses a credit card processor which uses a mainframe. PayPal also tries to push a credit card on you which is processed by

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread David Crayford
On 2020-10-12 6:41 PM, Bill Johnson wrote: Coming from the guy who said he does PayPal, Amazon, & Apple transactions and doesn’t know those transactions are mainframe processed through a bank. So what? The payments system is not running on a mainframe. Nor is the mobile payments back-end and

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Bill Johnson
Coming from the guy who said he does PayPal, Amazon, & Apple transactions and doesn’t know those transactions are mainframe processed through a bank. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Monday, October 12, 2020, 5:53 AM, David Crayford wrote: On 2020-10-12 12:19 AM, Bill Johnson wrote: >

Re: PC market (was IBM splitting into two companies)

2020-10-12 Thread Bill Johnson
IBM and Microsoft: Antitrust then and now https://www.cnet.com/news/ibm-and-microsoft-antitrust-then-and-now/ The first half of the article deals with the IBM antitrust lawsuit that started in 1969 and lasted for 13 years. It helped set the stage for MSFT. Since IBM was afraid of being the

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread David Crayford
Yes, semantics! Here's another cracker https://www.ft.com/content/6f02ce76-e1d6-45d8-b27a-0491281c2507! On 2020-10-12 5:55 PM, R.S. wrote: David, You wrote: "IBM patents are mostly pathetic." I understand it as (almost all) IBM patents are pathetic. I disagree with such generalisation.

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread R.S.
David, You wrote: "IBM patents are mostly pathetic." I understand it as (almost all) IBM patents are pathetic. I disagree with such generalisation. Now you write: "It was me that said they were pathetic" Which can be understood as SOME patents are pathetic. Note: not "mostly", and not "IBM

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
> Is this kind of behavior what you are describing as "defensive"? No. Is that the sort of "reasoning" you normally use? > Who made you the gospel of truth? What are you smoking? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: ALERSERV delete from stimerm exit

2020-10-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
Thanks: it's RCF time. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Rob Scott Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 4:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ALERSERV delete from stimerm

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, the original meaning was sloppy, inept work. The Tech Model Railroad Club at MIT introduced a new usage, and the media conflated that with "cracker". Some hackers are also crackers, but by no means all. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: ALERSERV delete from stimerm exit

2020-10-12 Thread Rob Scott
In the Auth Assembler guide, it is stated that IRBs (created by CIRB) get control with an empty DU-AL : “Upon entry, the exit routine runs with an empty dispatchable unit access list (DU-AL). To establish addressability to a data space created by the mainline routine, the exit routine can use

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
FSVO two larger than the standard value. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2020 7:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's one scenario, but the broken system also provides a perverse incentive to file defensive patents, where the goal is not to collect license fees but simply to prevent others from obtaining a patent on the same idea. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread David Crayford
Is this kind of behavior what you are describing as "defensive"? https://www.forbes.com/asap/2002/0624/044.html You said IBM only file defensive patents. Who made you the gospel of truth? On 2020-10-12 4:10 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: What part of "defensive patent" don't you understand. The

Re: ALERSERV delete from stimerm exit

2020-10-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
I was relying on what Peter Relson wrote, but I checked the extended addressability guide and it shows a DU-AL only for SRB and TCB, not for individual RBs. Peter, if you see this, please clarify. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: IBM splitting into two companies

2020-10-12 Thread Seymour J Metz
What part of "defensive patent" don't you understand. The article you cited made it abundantly clear that the USPTO is broken. IBM is far from the only company to file defensive patents. The intent is not to prevent others from using the technique, but to prevent others from successfully