Re: Why isn't a SLIP for 071 matching?

I was out of town this week. I will look into why that isn't working next week. In the meantime, you can try SLIP SET,IF,A=WAIT,N=(IEEVEXSN,0,1),etc... That should work as long as the spin isn't in some code running under the program check FLIH (like spinning for an RSM lock while

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

Hi Terri, I understand your situation, but I hope you will reconsider one of your earlier statement: "never touch z/OSMF again for 2 years." Yes, z/OSMF has had some problems, but it is absolutely IBM's direction and new functions/facilities are being added to z/OSMF all the time. As one of

Re: Concatinated datasets

Yeah, it is one of those problems that seems like it should have a simple answer "what DSN was this module loaded from? How hard is that?" but in reality has unlimited subtleties. If you care, I think you have to use BLDL and keep track yourself. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Concatinated datasets

On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 06:13:13PM -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: > Wait, am I missing something? I have a REXX that takes a module name and DD > name and searches in the DD to tell me where it first finds that module. Is > that not reliable? It may be reliable for where a future fetch would find

Re: Concatinated datasets

Charles, You said " But is there any way "after the LOAD"? ". I think this is spot on. You have pinpointed where there is a error in thinking. Determining what did happen (several thousand instructions ago) is not reliably possible in this case. Several things could have happened in the

Re: Mixing C/C++ with LE-conforming IBM HLASM

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 22:28:47 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Except that PDSE doesn't allow me to open a QSAM DCB and do FIND and STOW for >multiple members. > OK. It requires multiple DCBs. >I'm not sure what you mean by deferring naming of members. > A member is not named when it is created,

Re: Concatinated datasets

Oh, that. Ok. I thought you were saying that it might not find the first module of the correct name -- might skip one DS, or look for the second occurrence, or something. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* You must be prepared to do some serious turning inward toward

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

So I have to politely disagree with that comment. z/OSMF software install has always had its limitations as with big installation we installed once and replicated 127 times to all our other lpars. Now in my small shop its only 7 times, but I maintain 3 different levels of z/OS since we

Re: Concatinated datasets

The devil is in the details; I can't tell whether the code is reliable without looking at It. What I can say is that there are searches that do not cause an ABEND if the module is not found. The relevant text was "if it finds nowhere, S806 abend will be thrown", which is not true for, e.g.,

Re: Mixing C/C++ with LE-conforming IBM HLASM

Except that PDSE doesn't allow me to open a QSAM DCB and do FIND and STOW for multiple members. I'm not sure what you mean by deferring naming of members. You can use any macro appropriate for the type of member. GET and PUT, but NOTE and POINT are only for BSAM. VSAM member: GET, PUT,

Re: Concatinated datasets

Wait, am I missing something? I have a REXX that takes a module name and DD name and searches in the DD to tell me where it first finds that module. Is that not reliable? (In my case I use it with SYSPROC, SYSEXEC, ISPCLIB, ISPPLIB and the like.) --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell

Re: Mixing C/C++ with LE-conforming IBM HLASM

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:30:46 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Virtual Partitioned Access Method. See > > and

Re: z/OS versions

Depends on if you have an entity that requires you to run supported releases such as PCI. Also you can get extended service from IBM past end of support dates for a price. Dana On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 19:52:28 +, McCabe, Ron wrote: >Hello IBM List, > >Got a question about how you feel about

Re: Mixing C/C++ with LE-conforming IBM HLASM

Virtual Partitioned Access Method. See and -- Shmuel

Re: z/OS versions

I am not giving any stamp of approval. On several occasions over the last 30 or 40 years, we have run for longer or shorter periods on unsupported versions. Right now, I am actually at a supported (2.3) level. A couple of the unsupported periods were when it was thought the mainframe's days

Re: z/OS versions

AWS - our developers in house is creating all the applications that will be needed to run the business ... we are an Insurance Company. Thanks, Ron McCabe Manager of Mainframe/Midrange Systems Mutual of Enumclaw -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ron

Re: z/OS versions

Just curios--going to what -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of McCabe, Ron Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OS versions ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** Hello IBM List, Got a question about how you feel

z/OS versions

Hello IBM List, Got a question about how you feel about running on an unsupported z/OS version. Just about like everyone else our company is moving off the mainframe ... after several failed attempts I do believe they have something that will work this time and I'm OK with it because if they

Re: Mixing C/C++ with LE-conforming IBM HLASM

On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 13:26:51 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >If he's concerned with a concatenation then he won't be using the dsname form. > >fopen("//DD:SYSLIB") > If SYSLIB is a concatenation of PDS[E] (and possibly UNIX directories), what subsequent operations on the returned (FILE *) object

Re: Concatinated datasets

I am not sure that anyone has answered his question.. He understands search order and S806. I *think* what he is asking is this: I write a program. It loads module A, quite successfully, from DD MODULES. MODULES is in fact a concatenation. Can my program determine programmatically at run time

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

Mark, I was told the same thing in 1980. I've had a great 40 years waiting for that turnkey to become a reality. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 12:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

This level of vitriol is best left to twitter, fb or Instagram. It is totally uncalled for on this list. Every new process has its bumps and bruises and after twenty years, ServerPac was overdue for a makeover. Just my two cents. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Concatinated datasets

On 7/16/2021 9:46 AM, A T & T Management wrote: How can one determine where a module is obtained from when the module is in a concatinated dataset list? So for example you want to load module A and your dataset list is://modules  dd  disp=shr,dsn=hlq1.ds1 has modules qwert //    dd 

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

End goal c:/installzos c:/configurezos c:/runzos Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, July 16th, 2021 at 12:05 PM, Ron Wells

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

Total joke--setup and developed by people that THINK they know what they are doing and THINK they know what you need. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shaffer, Terri Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 11:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond

So not to beat up on this new installation process, but if I have the option on installing z/OS 2.5 with serverpac in Oct, I will never touch z/OSMF again for 2 years. It took me 2 days and working with security just to get the certificates working correctly. I still have issues with the

Re: Concatinated datasets

W dniu 16.07.2021 o 15:46, A T & T Management pisze: How can one determine where a module is obtained from when the module is in a concatinated dataset list? So for example you want to load module A and your dataset list is://modules  dd  disp=shr,dsn=hlq1.ds1 has modules qwert //    dd 

Re: Concatinated datasets

No. What happens depends on the macro and its parameters. Read up on, e.g., ERRET=. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of RCG [rkcgowda1...@gmail.com] Sent:

Re: Concatinated datasets

DESERV in new code, BLDL in old code. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of A T & T Management [svet...@ameritech.net] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 9:46 AM To:

Re: Concatinated datasets

zOS and Contents Supervisor does not throw. RTM will be entered w/ S806. If one does not have error recovery, one’s task will AB normally END [ABEND]. Sent from my iPhone — small keyboarf, fat fungrs, stupd spell manglr. Expct mistaks > On Jul 16, 2021, at 10:00 AM, RCG wrote: > >

Re: Concatinated datasets

Walt Ferrell answered this question a while back: “ On Behalf Of Walt Farrell Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 11:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Need to find the DSN from where load module was loaded On Wed, 27 Jan 2016 10:21:55 -0600, Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD. wrote:

Re: Concatinated datasets

Search order goes from the top (JOBLIB / STEPLIB) and indeed it finds the module from the first library in the concatenation, if it doesn't find, it searches next library, if it doesn't find, it looks out in your LNKLST, LPALST etc and if it finds nowhere, S806 abend will be thrown Regards, Ravi

Re: Concatinated datasets

I have have used BLDL for this, it give the concatenation number. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of A T & T Management Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Concatinated datasets How

Concatinated datasets

How can one determine where a module is obtained from when the module is in a concatinated dataset list? So for example you want to load module A and your dataset list is://modules  dd  disp=shr,dsn=hlq1.ds1 has modules qwert //    dd  disp=shr,dsn=hlq1.ds2 has modules asdf

Re: Mixing C/C++ with LE-conforming IBM HLASM

Well, my use case was to do I/O on multiple members of a PDS, using standard PL/I I/O. And, yes, I had to rewrite it between F and "optimizing", but that was a piece of cake. It's a shame that the MVS developers didn't steal the concept of VPAM from TSS. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: Mixing C/C++ with LE-conforming IBM HLASM

If he's concerned with a concatenation then he won't be using the dsname form. fopen("//DD:SYSLIB") -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin