Re: GDG base with Date stamp

2022-01-04 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Good. My application was to produce a report of CICS transactions on the second Tuesday of each month. The REXX needed to identify SMF dumps that spanned that particular day. listc ent('XDCOM.RXX') GDG BASE -- XDCOM.RXX IN-CAT --- USERCAT.ISI NONVSAM XDCOM.RXX.G0001V00

Re: GDG base with Date stamp

2022-01-04 Thread Peter
Hello Wayne Yes exactly this is what I was looking. On Wed, 5 Jan, 2022, 11:27 am Wayne Bickerdike, wrote: > The date/time is stored with a new GDG entry. You can see it with a LISTCAT > command. > > I developed a REXX program to parse GDG entries and build JCL to > concatenate generations

Re: GDG base with Date stamp

2022-01-04 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
The date/time is stored with a new GDG entry. You can see it with a LISTCAT command. I developed a REXX program to parse GDG entries and build JCL to concatenate generations based on a day of the month. The timestamp is a form of Julian date. Is this what you are looking for? On Wed, Jan 5,

Re: Sockets?

2022-01-04 Thread Itschak Mugzach
The function name is "HTTP/HTTPS protocol enabler". It supports several languauges, including rexx and works great. ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux and IBM I **| * *|*

GDG base with Date stamp

2022-01-04 Thread Peter
Hello I apologise if this is very dummy questions. Is there a way to have a GDG base with date time stamp ? So that any GDG versions created will have Date stamp in it during creation. Any samples if someone can refer me or share ? Please advise Peter

Sockets?

2022-01-04 Thread Bob Bridges
Maybe not the best place to ask, but I've heard folks here mention writing interfaces using sockets. Now, someone sent me a manual on the socket functions that could be used with REXX, and I successfully wrote a client/server pair for use on the mainframe, just as a proof of concept for a

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Sounds a lot like where I work too. I’ve been working on Z and distributed for forty years and I use the same tools but probably use TSO more than just SDSF and submitting jobs. Also, use an increasing number of REST APIs for interacting with different services Matt Hogstrom PGP key

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Bob Bridges
Hm. If that's true of many shops (and it sounds plausible), maybe my sneers at the colleges' ignorant comments are ill-founded and they may be starting to win their war against the mainframe. Of course, if their efforts have a lot of effect then surely the need for CICS will reverse the

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread David Crayford
It's true. The company I work for has been on-boarding millennials for years now to replace the guys that are retiring. I work with some very smart young guys, some of who write systems level code. None of them use REXX unless it's used in a product they are working on. We're ripping and

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread David Spiegel
As an aside, In Quebec French, The "ne" is dropped. On 2022-01-04 20:17, Seymour J Metz wrote: I don't know of any language where two negatives make a negative. I know of languages that have distributed negatives, e.g., "Je ne parle pas Français." in French. AFAIK it would be incorrect to omit

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
That's David Crayford, not me. I have no basis to either confirm or contradict. It's unfortunate if true. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Bob Bridges
Shmuel, I'm interested (and perhaps a little dismayed) at your third point. I've gotten the impression, from reading ads about job openings, that REXX programmers aren't very thick on the ground even at IBM where you'd think it'd be pretty easy to find them. But "shrinking by the day"? Where

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Bob Bridges
I wasn't thinking of that construction, no. My French is marginally better than my Spanish and much better than my other languages, but in Spanish it's perfectly correct to say "no hablo ninguna palabra de español". My impression (unsupported, I admit now that you catch me at it) is that this is

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
I don't know of any language where two negatives make a negative. I know of languages that have distributed negatives, e.g., "Je ne parle pas Français." in French. AFAIK it would be incorrect to omit either "ne" or "pas" from that sentence; you need both. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 23:26:24 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Also MVSVAR, OUTTRAP, STORAGE, SYSCPUS, SYSDSN, SYSVAR if equivalents are not >already supplied in oorexx. Access to such data as is returned by MVSVAR. >SYSVAR, etc. > I cited a few examples. Thank you for extending my list.

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread David Crayford
On 5/1/22 8:04 am, Seymour J Metz wrote: If IBM replaces REXX across the board, that would have to include continuing to support TSO. Also, those developing in REXX for TSO and ISPF environments would get a productivity boost if oorexx were supported there. It's a moot point because it's

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
If IBM replaces REXX across the board, that would have to include continuing to support TSO. Also, those developing in REXX for TSO and ISPF environments would get a productivity boost if oorexx were supported there. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
AFAIK those are all environments and function packages rather than part of REXX, so they should seamlessly plug into a port of oorexx. I believe that you would need 31-bit stubs for the 64-bit interface of oorexx 5. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Also MVSVAR, OUTTRAP, STORAGE, SYSCPUS, SYSDSN, SYSVAR if equivalents are not already supplied in oorexx. Access to such data as is returned by MVSVAR. SYSVAR, etc. could conceivably be made using reads of pseudo-devices such as "/dev/$$REXX$$/SYSPROC/finer_addressing_here" but OUTTRAP,

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 19:18:09 +, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >... And of course full ADDRESS MVS/TSO/etc. support as well. > Why is TSO needed? TSO-specific facillities such as: o LISTDSI? o TRANSMIT/RECEIVE I've used the ADDRESS TSO surrogate for some of this, even to run

What has the mainframe ever done for us?

2022-01-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Nicely done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwT7dkAhoTY (I feel like I recognize a couple of those folks-SHARE?) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Bob Bridges
In English (unlike most languages), two negatives make a positive. ("Yeah, right.") So when the girl says "I don't want nothing to do with you, no how, no way", to an English professor she means "yes". This may explain why English professors are so cautious. --- Bob Bridges,

Re: ICSF and domain sharing

2022-01-04 Thread Dave Jousma
On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 21:48:23 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >Another question about ICSF: > >I vaguely remember that crypto domains had to be unique. >In other words every active LPAR can have unique domain number or >several numbers (which is another story). > >Now I just read the domain

Re: ICSF and domain sharing

2022-01-04 Thread Mark Jacobs
Starting with z14, the IBM Z crypto architecture can support up to 256 domains in an adjunct processor (AP) with the AP extended addressing (APXA) facility that is installed. As such, the Crypto Express adapters are enhanced to handle 256 domains. The IBM Z firmware provides up to 85 domains

ICSF and domain sharing

2022-01-04 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Another question about ICSF: I vaguely remember that crypto domains had to be unique. In other words every active LPAR can have unique domain number or several numbers (which is another story). Now I just read the domain number may be shared and then CKDS/PKDS datasets may shared as well.

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread René Jansen
No, but you are welcome. René. > On 4 Jan 2022, at 15:41, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > Are there REXXLA projects for oorexx on CMS and TSO? > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz > http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread René Jansen
I agree entirely, But: IBM supporting it - that train has left the station around the year 2005. Earlier probably but not so provable or visible as handing over the code. But do we want to be surprised? Yes! I think the Rexx API for SDSF would be fully reusable for an ooRexx - we support the

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Are there REXXLA projects for oorexx on CMS and TSO? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of René Jansen [rene.vincent.jan...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Certainly oorexx on z/Linux is useful, and easier than oorexx on z/OS, but it would be great if IBM would support it cross platform, or at least for CMS and TSO. Both HFS (RIP) and zFS are file systems in the Unix sense, but oorexx only needs to be aware of the Unix system calls for paths. Of

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread René Jansen
You are reading my mind correctly, always had trouble with the double denials. > On 4 Jan 2022, at 15:28, zMan wrote: > >> although this does not mean that I would like to see that port. > > ...does not mean that I would NOT like to see... ? > >

AW: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Mike Beer
I coined the name "SLES" when working for SuSE some time ago. It stands for "SuSE Linux Enterprise Server". Best regards Mike -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Im Auftrag von Jeremy Nicoll Gesendet: Tuesday, January 04, 2022 19:15 An: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Properly integrating OOREXX with TSO is a problem. Supporting legacy datasets should not be difficult, nor should an equivalent to IRXJCL. I'm not sure about System REXX. I would expect IBM to functionally stabilize EXECIO unless there is something that it does better than stream I/O. Is

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread zMan
>although this does not mean that I would like to see that port. ...does not mean that I would NOT like to see... ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread René Jansen
But now you’ve got me thinking - ooRexx for Linux on Z is bona fide Z arch code. The calls to the OS are obviously different and have the Linux conventions and OS call numbers in them - people are building container extensions for z/OS - how hard could it be to use some of that code and run

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
ISTM that the real challenge is to port oorexx to run as a regular TSO / Batch program under z/OS (and not requiring the USS shell to run it) just like existing TSO Rexx programs can do where it has full knowledge of how to read/write at least sequential MVS datasets in addition to USS path

Re: RMF III hourly snap shot

2022-01-04 Thread Michael Oujesky
food for thought: while the RMF III data stores are internally compressed, there appears to be some opportunity for reducing the archived data set's physical size. In testing a sample data store, REPRO of it to a SMS generic compression file saw a reduction of 38% and tailored compression

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread René Jansen
We have daily builds for ooRExx on Z for Linux on Z on our build machine. These run on Suse, Red Hat and Ubuntu. JDBC to DB2 works like on every Linux, to DB2 on z/OS or Linux, Unix, Windows (luw). There is more on the mainframe than z/OS - although this does not mean that I would like to see

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
Those links seem to be for allowing an OOREXX application on a different platform to access a database on z/OS, not for allowing an OOREXX application to run on z/OS. That said, the package is more general than that, and is worth a look for anybody writing in OOREXX. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: Manuals for 3179G, 3192G, 3979

2022-01-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
3151 3152 3153 3161 3163 3164 3250 3251 3471 3481 5080 5081 6090 -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bodra - Pessoal

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Tue, 4 Jan 2022, at 13:13, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: > On 03.01.2022 17:35, Bob Bridges wrote: >> And I've never heard about ooREXX being available on z/OS. >> How do you manage that? Color me interested. > Best to give you the links for the tutorial (using ooRexx on the > mainframe to

Re: RES: Manuals for 3179G, 3192G, 3979

2022-01-04 Thread Joe Monk
3979 is an expansion board.for the logic unit. Joe On Tue, Jan 4, 2022, 10:28 Alexander Huemer wrote: > The 3979 isn't a 3270 terminal in itself. > It is an expansion module that you can attach to the 3179-G and 3192-G, > so that you can use plotters, mice, etc. with those terminals. > I

RES: Looking for a manual on IRLM services

2022-01-04 Thread Bodra - Pessoal
Correct URL is: https://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246908.html?Open Carlos Bodra IBM zEnterprise Certified São Paulo – SP – Brazil -Mensagem original- De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Em nome de esst...@juno.com Enviada em: segunda-feira, 3 de janeiro de 2022 18:56 Para:

Re: RES: Manuals for 3179G, 3192G, 3979

2022-01-04 Thread Alexander Huemer
The 3979 isn't a 3270 terminal in itself. It is an expansion module that you can attach to the 3179-G and 3192-G, so that you can use plotters, mice, etc. with those terminals. I suspect it will be little more than a serial multiplexer, but I do not actually know. Your list seems pretty

Re: Manuals for 3179G, 3192G, 3979

2022-01-04 Thread P H
3979 was an expansion unit attached to a 3179 and enabled GDDM to use a plotter or a colour printer - direct from the host. Regards Parwez Hamid​ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bodra - Pessoal <02eda2bc565a-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>

Re: ICSF and Z EOD (and Pervasive Encryption)

2022-01-04 Thread Eric D Rossman
I see it. Discussing with the team now. Eric Rossman, CISSP® ICSF Cryptographic Security Development z/OS Enabling Technologies edros...@us.ibm.com > From: "Dave Jousma" <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > > RFE submitted: > > Headline: Add ICSF Flush command > ID:153608

RES: Manuals for 3179G, 3192G, 3979

2022-01-04 Thread Bodra - Pessoal
I never listen about IBM 3979, terminals that I know are IBM 2250, 2260, 3101, 3178, 3179, 3180, 3191, 3192, 3193, 3194, 3275, 3276, 3277, 3278, 3279, 3290, 3472, 3482 (of course there are a lot of models of each one, for example, 3277-1 and 3277-2, 3192C, 3192D, 3192F, 3192G, 3192L and 3192W).

Chuck Norris and PTF's wasRe: zOSMF install of z/OS 2.5

2022-01-04 Thread Clark Morris
On Tuesday 04/01/2022 at 10:53 am, Kurt J. Quackenbush wrote: Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. Is that why he always has to fight and be in great peril? Clark Morris d

Re: Manuals for 3179G, 3192G, 3979

2022-01-04 Thread Charles Mills
+ $24.41 shipping! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Alexander Huemer Sent: Monday, January 3, 2022 10:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Manuals for 3179G, 3192G, 3979 Hi, I am searching for

Re: zOSMF install of z/OS 2.5

2022-01-04 Thread Rich Smrcina
Ok. Thanks, Kurt! Rich Smrcina > On Jan 4, 2022, at 8:53 AM, Kurt J. Quackenbush wrote: > >> I believe I’ve tried that before. When I specify a new volume ID >> (one that does not currently exist), I get this message: >> >> Volume 25XCAT is not mounted or does not exist. >> >> If I have to

Re: zOSMF install of z/OS 2.5

2022-01-04 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> I believe I’ve tried that before. When I specify a new volume ID > (one that does not currently exist), I get this message: > > Volume 25XCAT is not mounted or does not exist. > > If I have to format the volumes myself, I’m ok with that. But that > sort of defeats the purpose of the GUI.

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Seymour J Metz
OREXX and OOREXX are my default scripting languages on ArcaOS (rebranded OS/2) and Linux, although I use Perl for heavy parsing. I find it very pleasant to work in and tend to use the new syntax even when I'm not defining classes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: ICSF and Z EOD (and Pervasive Encryption)

2022-01-04 Thread Dave Jousma
On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 09:21:16 -0400, Eric D Rossman wrote: >It sounds like a "SETICSF FLUSH" command or similar is what you are >suggesting. ("don't turn off any options, but ensure that everything up to >that point is flushed/handled"). > >I would ask you to open an RFE and post back here so

Re: ICSF and Z EOD (and Pervasive Encryption)

2022-01-04 Thread Bonnie Ordonez
Yes, I meant Crypto not compression. Records written to the SMF buffer after Z EOD and prior to system shut down will be lost. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: zOSMF install of z/OS 2.5

2022-01-04 Thread Rich Smrcina
Thank you for the response, Kurt. I believe I’ve tried that before. When I specify a new volume ID (one that does not currently exist), I get this message: Volume 25XCAT is not mounted or does not exist. If I have to format the volumes myself, I’m ok with that. But that sort of defeats the

Re: zOSMF install of z/OS 2.5

2022-01-04 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> When configuring the deployment, on the ‘Volumes and Storage > Classes’ page is it possible to format volumes as the destination > for the catalogs and datasets? > > In the volumes section, I see ‘Modify’ but it’s greyed out as there > are no volumes. There is no ‘Add’ action, for instance.

Re: ICSF and Z EOD (and Pervasive Encryption)

2022-01-04 Thread Eric D Rossman
It sounds like a "SETICSF FLUSH" command or similar is what you are suggesting. ("don't turn off any options, but ensure that everything up to that point is flushed/handled"). I would ask you to open an RFE and post back here so others can vote for it. That will make it easier for me to push

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread Rony G. Flatscher
On 03.01.2022 17:35, Bob Bridges wrote: > I've mentioned before on this forum that once I got the hang of > object-oriented programming (in VBA, that was) and heard about ooREXX, I > lusted after it, but resisted the temptation because I could see no way I > could use it for my client's work.

Re: How to use dfsort to filter keywords that aren't fixed position

2022-01-04 Thread Steve Horein
Noting both DSI* and AOF* messages in the logs, have you considered "Log Analysis Program"? https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/z-netview/6.2.1?topic=tuning-log-analysis-program On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 2:49 AM Jason Cai wrote: > Hello Kolusu > > Due to the holiday, I have only studied the sample JCL

Re: How to use dfsort to filter keywords that aren't fixed position

2022-01-04 Thread Willy Jensen
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Re: Looking for a manual on IRLM services

2022-01-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Thanks, But I do not see IRLM APIs or services in the manual. On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 17:13:09 + Rahim Azizarab <03f036d88eeb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Manuals for 3179G, 3192G, 3979

2022-01-04 Thread Alexander Huemer
Hi, I am searching for documentation to these devices, especially the 3979. So far I couldn't even find a picture of the 3979. There is [1], but the price is rather bold. -Alex [1] https://www.ebay.com/itm/114320868683 -- For

Re: How to use dfsort to filter keywords that aren't fixed position

2022-01-04 Thread Jason Cai
Hello Kolusu Due to the holiday, I have only studied the sample JCL you provided in the past few days. The JCL is of great help to me. Thanks for your help! I failed to describe our needs clearly last time. We hope to use dfsort to compare today’s operlog with yesterday’s.

Re: Looking for a manual on IRLM services

2022-01-04 Thread kekronbekron
Looks at everyone else to figure out the consensus on whether he needs to be cancelled. - KB ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, January 4th, 2022 at 3:40 AM, Michael Watkins <032966e74d0f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > #metoo > > -Original Message- > > From: