Re: z/OS 2.5 first time installation

2022-09-26 Thread Brian Westerman
When you order z/OS 2.5 (or after if you have already done so), you need to order the COD package (you can do it from ShopZseries directly and get it electronically in under a day), which is a pre-built z/OS 2.3 (not 2.5 yet) system (with z/OSMF pre-installed) that you restore to a single

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-26 Thread Robin Vowels
On 2022-09-27 12:14, Hank Oerlemans wrote: My extremely unhelpful advice ? Chuck them in the deep end ! When I was 20 my lovely German boss said write a channel program to scan the CA-1 TMC for some criteria. Many weeks later with BALR and USING and whatever and a hardcopy IPCS manual it worked

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-26 Thread Hank Oerlemans
My extremely unhelpful advice ? Chuck them in the deep end ! When I was 20 my lovely German boss said write a channel program to scan the CA-1 TMC for some criteria. Many weeks later with BALR and USING and whatever and a hardcopy IPCS manual it worked and that's the most complex thing I've ever

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Re: IBM python documentation?

2022-09-26 Thread David Crayford
On 27/9/22 00:34, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Thanks for the reminder about the zoautil_py functions, I did know about them but there are gaps -- e.g. ZOAU has no direct support for simple sequential processing of VSAM files (e.g., to download a copy of VSAM data to a flat file in the Unix

Re: z/OS 2.5 first time installation

2022-09-26 Thread Dejan Stamatovic
Hi Alain, If you are going to install zOS v2.5 under zVM and you do not have zOS v2.3 or later versions of zOS that you can use as a driver system, you will need to order a driver for the installation of zOS v2.5. This driver (or COD as it is called) can be ordered with zOS v2.5 free of

Re: z/OS 2.5 first time installation

2022-09-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
Order and restore COD. Define a virtual machine to match the I/O definitions of the COD and IPL. Order CBPDO or whatever and follow the instructions. The driver system will be the COD. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: z/OS 2.5 first time installation

2022-09-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
COD is not the same as Systempac. COD is not meant to be, and is not supported as, a production system; it is soley intended for building a new system on another set of voluimes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: LONGPARM applies?

2022-09-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 14:00:24 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >I am 99% certain that the 100 character limitation has always been a JCL >restriction, not a "linkage" restriction. Two consenting programs can pass >whatever they want in R1, including a pointer to a "long" character string. > OK.

Re: z/OS 2.5 first time installation

2022-09-26 Thread Tom Brennan
Is the COD still available? https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.5.0?topic=system-customized-offerings-driver On 9/26/2022 2:05 PM, rpinion865 wrote: Is not Kyndryl an IBM company, that sells z/OS services to clients??? Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message ---

Re: z/OS 2.5 first time installation

2022-09-26 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Kyndryl and IBM are 2 independent companies. Clients need to have a ibm customer number, required for scrt, upgrade products… Resiliency Services on Z Mainframe alain.benveni...@kyndryl.com > Le 26 sept. 2022 à 23:05, rpinion865 > <042a019916dd-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> a écrit : > >

Re: z/OS 2.5 first time installation

2022-09-26 Thread rpinion865
Is not Kyndryl an IBM company, that sells z/OS services to clients??? Sent with Proton Mail secure email. --- Original Message --- On Monday, September 26th, 2022 at 5:00 PM, Alain Benvéniste wrote: > Al, > > It seems to be called « systempac »in the doc and it seems to be a paid

Re: z/OS 2.5 first time installation

2022-09-26 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Al, It seems to be called « systempac »in the doc and it seems to be a paid option as you say. I imagine i should ask to add db2 and the other products the client needs… Resiliency Services on Z Mainframe alain.benveni...@kyndryl.com > Le 26 sept. 2022 à 22:52, Al Ferguson a écrit : > >

Re: LONGPARM applies?

2022-09-26 Thread Charles Mills
I am 99% certain that the 100 character limitation has always been a JCL restriction, not a "linkage" restriction. Two consenting programs can pass whatever they want in R1, including a pointer to a "long" character string. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: z/OS 2.5 first time installation

2022-09-26 Thread Al Ferguson
Alain, IBM will build you something you can boot from and get started with. I believe you need to contact your support person to get started. They will need to know if your are going to run under zVM, or boot it directly within an LPAP. Will probably need information on your auxiliary hardware

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-26 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 26/09/2022 22:40, Seymour J Metz wrote: a && b isif a THEN b else TRUE ? Shirley a && b isif a THEN b else FALSE Short circuit operators can be very nice. Ouups; yes.   thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
> a && b isif a THEN b else TRUE ? Shirley a && b isif a THEN b else FALSE Short circuit operators can be very nice. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-26 Thread Seymour J Metz
Refactoring? The Knuth article is a good place to start. BTW, the last quoted paragraph is not my text; I assume that it's Gil's. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

z/OS 2.5 first time installation

2022-09-26 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Hi, A client wants to install a z/OS 2.5 on a z13s with nothing else than a z/VM on it. I try to find the steps I should play to be able to IPL the z/OS. I just find how to succeed an upgrade from a previous z/OS... I can't find the clear method to do it from scratch... Thanks alain

SLES15 SP3 Quarterly Update Images (QU4) released

2022-09-26 Thread Mark Post
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBM-Main All, SUSE has announced the release of the fourth quarterly update (QU4) images of SLES15 SP3. Quarterly Updates are refreshed ISOs based on GA and contain the last released updates. These updated ISOs are released every 3 months. While s390x

Re: IBM python documentation?

2022-09-26 Thread Colin Paice
I'm working on a Python external function(s) which can process datasets and //DDNAMEs etc ... using C interface... I'll post here when it is available. Colin On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 17:35, Farley, Peter x23353 < 031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Thanks for the reminder

LONGPARM applies?

2022-09-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In Program Management: User's Guide and Reference" I read: "[LONGPARM] applies mainly to programs that are invoked using a JCL EXEC statement or a z/OS UNIX EXECMVS callable service." "mainly" is tantalizing. It leads the reader to wonder what exceptions might exist. For compatibility with

Re: IBM python documentation?

2022-09-26 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the reminder about the zoautil_py functions, I did know about them but there are gaps -- e.g. ZOAU has no direct support for simple sequential processing of VSAM files (e.g., to download a copy of VSAM data to a flat file in the Unix Services environment for analysis there). I have

Re: Is HFS still a thing?

2022-09-26 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 13:16:50 +0200, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >Well, maybe I should submit RCF on various UNIT=3350... >Oh, I did it many years ago. No result, AFAIK. > UNIT=SYSALLDA would be better. BLKSIZE=3120 is covered by the Historic Preservation Act. I did submit an RCF about ALLOCATE

Re: IBM python documentation?

2022-09-26 Thread Matt Hogstrom
If IIRC IBM loosely paired the IBM ZOAU to “assist Python”. https://community.ibm.com/community/user/ibmz-and-linuxone/blogs/austin-wells1/2020/12/11/using-ibm-open-enterprise-python-for-zos-and-zoau The challenge I see currently with Python is that is runs in a USS environment so if you need

Re: Is HFS still a thing?

2022-09-26 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Well, maybe I should submit RCF on various UNIT=3350... Oh, I did it many years ago. No result, AFAIK. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 14.09.2022 o 20:05, Paul Gilmartin pisze: I just submitted an RCF on various z/OS 2.5. TSO/E publications which mention HFS with no mention of HFS

Re: ADR971E RC 8

2022-09-26 Thread Mark Jacobs
That's what I finally used to perform the copy. Worked fine. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com --- Original Message --- On Monday, September 26th, 2022 at 7:11 AM,

Re: ADR971E RC 8

2022-09-26 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Is it possible to copy LDS dataset using IDCAMS REPRO? (manual is clear - yes) I mean CI level operations, since there are no records inside. Control Intervals are "EF-agnostic", so the source can be non-EF and target can be EF. So, wouldn't be possible dss would use IDCAMS under the cover?

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-26 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
What I like about my "garbage language": since 2011 it is "my garbage language"; I can add new control statements to it and thus eliminate the need for gotos most of the time, because the old use cases of goto now have new solutions (similar to C). And for many other needs like string handling,